In Conversation

Atlas is a monthly show hosted by Barbarelle in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Connecting different parts of the world with obscure tracks, Barbarelle takes us through a deep and evolving sonic landscape. From Ambient, Experimental and Jazz, to Latin, African and Middle East sounds, this imaginary musical journey evoques the -both subtle and deep- connection between worlds, existent and imaginary.

In celebration of 25 years of Moon Safari, Barbarelle travels from Buenos Aires to Paris to meet and have an inspiring conversation with JB Dunckel and Nicolas Godin from the french band AIR to talk about their new tour and their music and inspiration. This AIR special also features all music by them – Barbarelle selects her favorite songs, as AIR is her favorite band!

Thanks JB Dunckel, Nicolas Godin, Thierry, Ferreol and Radio Nova.

Special thanks to Peter for sound recording.

Liquid Sky is/was: Rey & Carlos

On May 3rd 2023, UCLA hosted a conversation between Xuman (aka Gunman Xuman) and Samuel Lamontagne. Xuman is a social activist and legend of Senegalese Hip Hop, who’s been active for over thirty years. He’s a member of the pioneer group Pee Froiss, and besides his solo career, also created the Journal Rappé for which he’s internationally known.

The conversation happened in Royce Hall and covered Xuman’s roots and upbringing, the history of Hip Hop in Senegal, and how Hip Hop is an important medium to build solidarity across the African Diaspora.

*After Xuman returned to Dakar, Senegal, protests broke out as Ousmane Sonko, the main opponent to the current Senegalese president, was imprisoned. Senegalese people are protesting so that Macky Sall doesn’t run for a third unconstitutional term. The protests were violently quashed by the police, and multiple restrictions have been placed on social media by the government. #FreeSenegal

Who, what and indeed where is Can? Krautrock legends bring The Can Lost Tapes (Mute), due out imminently. The band’s founder/chief theoretician Irmin Schmidt discusses the whys and wherefores; Can archival engineer Jono Podmore, also of analog electronic band Metamono, spins tracks from Metamono’s new Parcel Post EP (Instrumentarium Records).

For more from John Payne, check out bluefat.com

Enjoy this special broadcast featuring Lukas McFadden, also known as Cut Chemist, interviewing two members of the renowned British funk band, Cymande, the day before their first show in America in the last forty years at the Fonda Theatre.

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“Legend” is a word that is often too lightly doled out, but today we proudly present an interview with a bonafide LEGEND. Art Laboe is a broadcasting icon who was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame in 2012. This honor was rightly bestowed as he was the first DJ to play Rock and Roll on the west coast airwaves, smashed color lines by presenting mixed race concerts and playlists, coined the term “Oldies but Goodies,” invented the concept of the compilation album and continues to bring joy to generations of radio listeners.

At 87 years young, Art is a sprightly figure, holding one of the top rated slots in Southern California radio, one of the world’s most important markets. He graces the airwaves six nights a week with his Art Laboe Connection program. The show’s format is an exception amongst commercial radio, emphasizing a direct connection with the community. Throughout each show he takes dedications from listeners and sends their songs and kisses over the airwaves to loved ones, many of whom are incarcerated. His radio show is a pipeline through which the emotions and wishes of listeners are transmitted. The songs heard on the Art Laboe Connection are a refreshing and heartfelt break from the glossy buzz flooding much of the dial. While Art plays tried and trued favorites every show his playlist varies widely night to night based on to listener requests and his mood. On any given episode you’re likely to hear rare doo-wop, R&B or sweet soul cuts played nowhere else.

We were honored that Art Laboe opened up his studio and schedule to graciously allow us this interview. Scholar and dublab board member Josh Kun sat down with Art at his Original Sound Studio on Sunset Boulevard to revisit the history of his illustrious career and explore the dynamic of his nightly connection with listeners cruising the California streets or listening close for the voice of a loved one.

On Saturday, August 5th, 2023, we pay tribute to Art Laboe at Grand Performances. More details here:

https://www.dublab.com/events/111367/a-tribute-to-art-laboe

On May 17th, Peter Brotzmann, the godfather of European free jazz, stopped by the dublab studio and recorded a wide-ranging interview with Acting Consul General of Germany in Los Angeles and dublab friend Stefan Biedermann. We’re proud to present this very special conversation in full, along with a selection of recent recordings from Peter Brotzmann.

Kassa Overall is a Grammy-nominated musician, emcee, singer, producer, and drummer who melds avant-garde experimentation with hip-hop production techniques to tilt the nexus of jazz and rap in unmapped directions.

On ANIMALS, his Warp Records debut, Kassa pushed his kaleidoscopic, subersive vision further.

Listen back to the conversation between Kassa and Qur’an Shaheed.

On April 20, 2023, dublab, In Sheep’s Clothing, & Rhino Records presented the first listen of the newly reissued Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, 1965-1968! Celebrating its 50th birthday, this groundbreaking collection doubles in size for a new anniversary edition that launched as a Record Store Day exclusive on April 22.

This is the recording of the live Q&A between the original producer Lenny Kaye and host, Tana Yonas.

Find lots more Morton Subotnick at mortonsubotnick.com

Wall Matthews, founding member of The Entourage Music and Theater Ensemble beamed into Celsius Drop to shine light on the obscure yet impactful group’s history. Formed in 1970, Entourage performed long form sets fusing varied sonic elements into their own unidentifiable genre. Weaving together modern dance, poetry, lighting design and flowing sound they created immersive, dream-state environments. The group released two critically acclaimed recordings on Folkways, a 1973 self-titled album followed by The Neptune Collection in 1975, famously sampled by Four Tet on his song “She Moves She”.

Entourage’s sole surviving member Wall Matthews, carries the light forward by honoring the group’s heritage and reviving its innovative spirit through performance. He recently oversaw the Tompkins Square Records album Ceremony of Dreams : Studio Sessions & Outtakes, 1972-1977, a collection of 30 previously unreleased archival tracks. Enjoy this interview with Wall Matthews including a mix of Entourage songs he personally selected and sequenced. Press play and you’ll understand why Entourage believed, “Communication Is The Outer World’s Intersection With The Inner World.”

Check out togetherontheair.onearchives.org to view the full exhibit and explore listening rooms of archival materials.

Warp Composers' Sen Moreira is joined by producer and composer Casey MQ in a conversation about the current landscape in the world of composition, film scoring, and publishing in an ever changing music industry.

Sen Moreira is the North America Licensing & Composer Manager for the newly established Warp Composers, representing composers across Warp Publishing and Warp Records rosters from their offices in Los Angeles and London.

Casey Manierka-Quaile is an artist, producer and composer from Toronto, now based in Los Angeles. He is classically trained as a pianist and has written and produced under the artist name of Casey MQ, collaborating with the likes of Oklou, Christine & The Queens, Flume and more. Winner of the 2021 Canadian Screen Award for Best Original Song, Manierka's scores have premiered at TIFF, SXSW, Berlinale, Sundance and Rotterdam Film Festival.

This program is part of New Music USA’s web magazine NewMusicBox “Guest Editor series”, which aims to celebrate a plurality of voices from across the nation and will feature exclusive content written, produced, or commissioned by a rotating artist or organization. The series kicks off with dublab. NewMusicBox, edited by Frank J. Oteri, amplifies creators and organizations who are building a vibrant future for new music in all its forms, and has provided a vital platform for creators to speak about issues relevant to them in their own words since 1999.

The dublab partnership will feature new weekly content from at least 15 different voices through January 2023, presented in conversations, DJ mixes, articles, and live performances all exploring the current landscape of music composition.

The Guest Editor is the first such series in the magazine’s 23-year history and reflects New Music USA’s aim to deepen its impact across the many diverse music communities across the United States. This aim is also demonstrated by NewMusicBox’s ongoing “Different Cities, Different Voices” feature that spotlights music creation hubs across the nation.

What a treat for us, having musician/composer/pioneer Manuel Göttsching up to dublab soon after his first ever performance in Los Angeles. We totally geeked out about analog electronics, his forward-thinking uses of them in the legendary German experimental rock group Ashra Tempel in the 70’s, his experiences creating the E2-E4 piece in the early 80’s (which became a monumental inspiration in the development of late 80’s/early 90’s house music in the U.S.), the cryptic Cosmic Jokers project and so much more. He hasn’t stopped working either, moving into sound installations and film soundtracks. We knew he was a heavy dude but sheesh…

Mandy Harris Williams is a multimedia conceptual artist and educator. As a theorist well versed in Black contemporary issues, she shares that knowledge on her monthly radio show, #BrownUpYourFeed on NTS and through creative works that have been shown at Paula Cooper Gallery, Institute of Contemporary Art Los Angeles, Art + Practice, and Navel, and more. Williams will be joined by LA’s best kept secret: DJ Colored Craig. CC’s high energy and infectious spins will have you on your feet throughout the entire set. As a creative, he’s also a long-time veteran in the film industry as a performer, choreographer, and director. Skip your midday cup of joe and tune in to the stream at 12 PM PST for a boost in energy.

Brian Eno and Beatie Wolfe talk Art and Climate on dublab for this Orange Juice for the Ears special that marks Earthday 2022. Their conversation was recorded live in Austin where it was SXSW’s Featured Session for the day art/climate converged.

The conversation between musical visionaries Brian Eno and Beatie Wolfe covers how art can play a vital role in response to the climate emergency, with Brian sharing his music industry charity EarthPercent and Beatie sharing ‘From Green to Red,’ an environmental protest piece built using 800,000 years of NASA data to visualize rising CO2 levels.

This show also marks the day EarthPercent x Earth Day campaign launches where Brian Eno and Beatie Wolfe join 100+ artists offering a track to support organizations doing vital work to help tackle the climate emergency. All info earthpercent.bandcamp.com.

This show closes with the record Songs of the Humpback Whale by Dr Roger Payne.

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Co-hosted by Chris Kissel and Chuck Soo-Hoo, the twice-monthly dublab program Contact Wave enthusiastically celebrates the best experimental, avant-garde, psychedelic, and off-the-grid music crafted in L.A. and beyond.

This episode features a conversation with ambient and New Age music pioneer Michael Stearns, who is also a multi-genre composer, sound designer, and soundtrack producer. His credits include music for television, feature films, planetariums, twenty-two IMAX films and seventeen solo albums. As one of the pioneers of American electronic music from his earliest self-released cassette in 1977 up through his 2021 Beyond Earth & Sky collaboration with Steve Roach, Stearns creates engaging textures melding with soaring melodies. He has created music for NASA, Laserium, Disney Films, HBO, 20/20 and the Berkshire Ballet. His award-winning scores for Ron Fricke’s non-verbal global film masterpieces Chronos, Sacred Site, Baraka and Samsara have been heard by audiences around the world. Stearns creates at his The Guest House studio in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

This year marks the rerelease of Stearns’ groundbreaking and long out-of-print Planetary Unfolding (1981). Featuring the sound of the Serge Modular Synthesizer in 6 movements, the slowly evolving atmospheric swirls of this early spacemusic classic are a journey within inner and outer space.

TRACKLIST:
Michael Stearns – “In the Beginning…” – from “Planetary Unfolding” (Continuum Montage/Projekt) (1981/2022)
**Michael Stearns Interview**
Michael Stearns – As the Earth Kissed the Moon – from “Planetary Unfolding” (Continuum Montage/Projekt) (1981/2022)
Cool Maritime – Temporal Dryft – from “Big Earth Energy” (2022)
Patricia Wolf – Springtime in Croatia – from “See-Through” (Balmat) (2022)
Charlatan – Sinking Between Pyramids – from “Streams” (The Jewel Garden) (2022)
Jonas Reinhardt – Oxus – from “A Ragged Ghost” (Trouble In Mind) (2022)
OHYUNG – tucked in my stomach! – from “imagine naked!” (NNA Tapes) (2022)
Julian Stein – herons at night – from “pattern river” (Self-Released) (2022)
Forest Management – One After Another – from “Palm Life” (Husky Pants) (2022)
MAW – Prophase – from “A Maneuver Within” (Atlantic Rhythms) (2022)
Andrew Bernstein – in flux (excerpt) – from “a presentation” (Hausu Mountains) (2022)
JOYFULTALK – Take It To The Grave – from “Familiar Science” (Constellation) (2022)
Mary Halvorson – Night Shift – from “Amaryllis” (Nonesuch) (2022)
Noah Howard – Olé – from “Live in Europe Vol. 1” (Altsax) (1975/2020)

Our friends from Mochilla brought legendary producer/composer/arranger David Axelrod to dublab for an afternoon of reflections on his musical exploits of the past and a look into those of the future. Wait, let’s back up and refocus on the previously stated legendary. We really mean LEGENDARY!!! Check out Axelrod’s wikipedia entry to get an idea of how deep his influence spans. Then listen to his albums to absorb the full impact. He sat down with dublab’s archival ace Nobody to explore the moments behind the music.

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Visionary musician Laraaji and fellow sound healer Arji OceAnanda sat down for an interview with composer and producer Christopher Bono, leader of the improvisational NOUS ensemble and founder of Our Silent Canvas Records,  at the OSC studios in upstate NY. Their insightful and revealing conversation covers the recently released NOUS collaboration with Laaraji & Arji, Circle of Celebration, alongside ideas about creativity, meditation, sound healing, rituals and much more, including two improvisational musical moments.

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Visionary musician Laraaji and fellow sound healer Arji OceAnanda sat down for an interview with composer and producer Christopher Bono, leader of the improvisational NOUS ensemble and founder of Our Silent Canvas Records,  at the OSC studios in upstate NY. Their insightful and revealing conversation covers the recently released NOUS collaboration with Laaraji & Arji, Circle of Celebration, alongside ideas about creativity, meditation, sound healing, rituals and much more, including two improvisational musical moments.

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For the last episode of the Arts x Music x New Tech podcast series we produced with Your Mom's Agency as part of the music exchange platform EXP__ funded by Wunderbar Together, we asked artist and technologist Bana Haffar to give an introduction to the world of modular synthesis live from the Beirut Synthesizer Center, and Berlin-based technologist and producer Simonne Jones to tell us how she mixes AI and NFTs into her music practice. Thanks to all our partners on this series, CDM, BULK, the Goethe Institut in Chicago, Bennett Shaeffer, Häana, and thanks to all participating mentors and artists. For more EXP__ music and podcasts, head to Facebook.com/groups/EXPEXP.

In this third episode of our EXP__ meets Arts x Music x New Tech podcast mini series produced with Your Mom's Agency and music tech blog CDM under the patronage of Wunderbar Together, and introduced by Häana, you will hear how technologist KamranV developed the open source quad sound solution QUARK. We have also prepared a playlist from the Decades in Space album recorded in QUARK featuring Laura Escudé + Sudan Archives, Drum & Lace + Jeff Parker, Jeremiah Chiu + Sam Prekop, and Beatie Wolfe + Laraaji & Arji OceAnanda

For the second episode of our Arts x Music x New Tech podcast series produced with Your Mom's Agency under the patronage of Wunderbar Together and edited by Bennett Shaeffer, we invite you to discover Orchestral Tool's SINE Player with Graham Ball and Zeina Azouqah aka Zazuka, and the new collaborative music production platform Submix with its app Squadron with founder Chris Galvin. You will also discover music produced by EXP__ grant recipients Roz Yuen, Infinite Livez and Kesswa, Tiffadelic and Malonda, Mentrix, Sarah Kivi, Nbor and Dylan Wexler, Krach der Roboter, Taj Bell, Wavelord, Bison Rouge, and Häana; head to the EXP__ group to listen to more tracks.

dublab and Your Mom's Agency present a mini series of four Arts x Music x New Tech podcasts featuring educational talks by EXP__ mentors and introduced by Häana, in partnership with BULK in Detroit and under the patronage of Wunderbar Together. In this first episode, you will learn about mastering, mixing, and re-mixing with Tokyo-based producer XLII, and get to hear some music he has produced, plus the intro track by Simonne Jones. For more info on the music exchange platform EXP__ join the Facebook group and stay posted for the next episode of our series. Edited by Bennett Shaeffer at dublab Studios.

Chances are pretty good we don’t have to explain who Tangerine Dream are. You already knew they’ve been cemented in the annals of pioneering electronic music for their mastery of transportational soundscapes, crafted from the early 70’s on. Perhaps behind only Pink Floyd or the Grateful Dead are they considered universally as the quintessential stoned-with-headphones experience. Well, founder Edgar Froese never really stopped creating. 40+ years later Froese and his current band-mates aren’t hauling the same humongous walls of modular analog synths on the road with them, but they are on the road. In July 2012, they played the 2,300 person-capacity Club Nokia in Los Angeles.

We won’t lie. It wasn’t exactly easy to arrange this interview. After much rescheduling and thumb-twiddling we were ushered backstage into Edgar’s velvety dressing room nearly an hour before the venue’s doors were to open. His friendly assistant asked if we could keep it to 10 minutes. Sure that seemed tight, but we were happy to do whatever. Then Edgar proceeded to bleed the history of the band all over us, in a super-relaxed manner, as if he had all day.

– Nanny Cantaloupe

Want more Tangerine Dreams? Here’s a mini-mix of some of Nanny Cantaloupe’s favorite cuts:

Tangerine Dream – Cold Smoke – Electronic Meditation – Ohr 1970
Tangerine Dream – Movements of a Visionary – Phaedra – Virgin 1974
Tangerine Dream – Origin of Supernatural Possibilities – Zeit – Ohr 1972
Edgar Froese – if 810 – Macula Transfer – Brain 1976
Tangerine Dream – Atem (excerpt) – Atem – Ohr 1973
Edgar Froese – Panorphelia – Aqua – Virgin 1974
Tangerine Dream – Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares – Phaedra – Virgin 1974
Tangerine Dream – 3am at the Border of the Marsh From Okefenokee – Stratosfear – Virgin 1976

On Sept. 18, The Zombies will perform a global, live-streamed concert from Abbey Road in London, where they recorded their opus Odessey & Oracle in 1967. 

It will be the band’s only 2021 performance due to COVID. To celebrate the occasion, Rod Argent and Colin Blunstone sat with dublab DJ Becky Ebenkamp (Bubblegum & Other Delights) to talk about the project.

Alan Vega’s Mutator out now on Sacred Bones

The visual artist, musician, and poet Alan Vega was born in Brooklyn in 1938. He co-founded the massively influential avant-garde band Suicide with Martin Rev in 1970, with whom he performed off and on throughout his life. Vega would go on to have a prolific career as a solo artist. His hit song “Jukebox Babe” led to a contract with Elektra Records, who released two albums including the cult classic Saturn Strip, produced by Ric Ocasek. From there, rejecting the commercial machine, he went back to his roots, doing a deep dive into experimenting with sound in the studio. This era resulted in new solo records coming out consistently throughout the next several decades; starting with Deuce Avenue, continuing through Dujang Prang (on Henry Rollins’ 2.13.61 imprint), and culminating with his masterpiece It. Vega considered the albums from this period the audio counterpoint to his visual art that reflected the world around him while simultaneously delving into universal themes. It makes his work as relevant today as it was then.

It was during this period that he began working with Liz Lamere, who became his wife and the most crucial collaborator of his solo career. Lamere, along with fellow Vega collaborator Jared Artaud, discovered in 2019 the lost Vega album, Mutator, which they co-produced and mixed. Along with creative director Michael Handis, they are now spearheading the Alan Vega Vault project, which aims to bring rare and unreleased work from throughout Vega’s career to the public for the first time.

Mutator was recorded with Lamere at Vega’s NYC studio from 1995-1996, and it serves as a document of a particularly fertile time in his creative life. He had 11 full-length solo albums come out during the ‘80s, ’90s and ‘00s — plus numerous collaborations, and Suicide records: A Way of Life, Why Be Blue and American Supreme. Mutator wasn’t shelved intentionally, but Vega’s back-to-the-grindstone M.O. meant that he had moved on to making his next record before this one was finished.

At the time of the Mutator sessions, Vega was massively inspired by what was happening in the streets of New York — not only the hip hop scenes that were exploding throughout the outer boroughs, but also the literal sounds of the streets, the traffic noise and industrial ambience of city living. That influence trickled into the sounds he and Lamere captured in those sessions. That sensibility, paired with Vega’s unmistakable voice and force of personality, is what made it the great album it is now. The final piece was the production job, completed by Lamere and Artaud 25 years after the songs were first captured.

One of the most inspired of producer Adrian Sherwood’s many collaborations is the early-’80s dub project New Age Steppers – a loosely-configured collective of British and Jamaican musicians that primarily centered on Sherwood’s studio alchemy and the distinctive singing of Slits vocalist Ari Up. The project mixes up bright reggae songs and experimental zoners and helped pave the way for the most adventurous sounds of the ’80s and ’90s. Sherwood went on to work with Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, Lee Scratch Perry, Sly & Robbie, KMFDM, Cabaret Voltaire, and many others.

This year marks the reissue of all four New Age Steppers releases, along with the odds-and-ends package Avant Gardening, in a single package titled Stepping Into a New Age 1980-2021 on Sherwood’s storied label On-U Sounds.

Chris Kissel and Chuck Soo-Hoo, hosts of dublab’s Contact Wave, host this in-depth conversation with Sherwood

John Girgus from the bands Aberdeen, Languis & Legendary House Cats had the opportunity to “interview” John Cooper Clarke for dublab. Here is what he had to say:

What hasn’t already been said about the great John Cooper Clarke? What already hasn’t been asked? More in the UK, but here to a degree, there has been no recent shortage of interviews with the original Punk Poet. So instead of a safe and formal interview, the idea was to try a get a more informal banter, something maybe any sensible fan would do if given the opportunity.

What I was admittedly a little too nervous to convey at the start of this phone call from the man who’s works span five decades, was that I grew up an inherent fan of punk, post-punk, more importantly big hair and black jeans (values I hold dear to this day). I thought I had most of Manchester’s major exports covered… Maybe partly due to the fact that he wasn’t really making records for the period I began buying them, I completely missed him. So when the the black clad mess of hair and shades graced the screen for the 2007 Joy Division biopic, ‘Control’ later on, I was an instant fan. The look and the style adopted by the icons of my formative years with intelligence and realism to which I can still relate. And I laughed at least every minute. Everything I have ever heard anybody say since, proven true in that moment. I Googled clumsy terms ‘spoken word control joy div’, and found handfuls of stray mp3s, videos, but even eBay could be scant. I listened to what I could find, and as they say, when you met someone who knew, they knew…

By then, from what must surely be a mix of pure will, luck, raw talent, and a great PR team, the poet was enjoying a full renaissance at home and recognition as a national treasure. He’s on tests, talk shows, and the Arctic Monkeys turned on of his well-known pieces into a #1 chart hit, and plays the Royal Albert Hall. Last year, when his first US visit in my lifetime touched down at Downtown LA bar La Cita (a place I’ve DJed) it was nothing short of a miracle. Lucky for us, that turned out not only to be a one time occurrence, and with an 11 date US tour, dublab’s Alejandro thought for some reason, the two of us might have an interesting conversation. After nearly chickening out (pun so intended), I instead just dialed the number with a degree of fearlessness deserved by someone who used to open punk shows with nothing but a microphone. A graciously casual conversation from the rackety Mob Museum in Las Vegas followed… I really couldn’t have hoped for a nicer legend to get the chance to chat with.

For those who are unable to see the installation in person, Join dublab and The Music Center for a special 72-hour livestream of Brian and Roger Enos’ A Quiet Scene global video collaboration from the comfort of your own home, starting on Friday, January 22,2001,at noon (PST). Access the stream at
https://youtu.be/5hLcrRiTnkQ or https://youtu.be/bE4anZeU3LU

Learn more:
www.musiccenter.org⁠⠀⠀
www.mixing-colours.com
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Thank you to Brian and Roger Eno, as well as to our collaborators at The Music Center, Deutsche Grammophon, and Universal Music Enterprises, for making this very special installation possible.⁠

About Liz Warner:
Liz Warner is a radio host and producer, DJ, voice actor and music journalist based in Los Angeles. Liz first took to the airwaves in Detroit in 1995. Over 12 years and thousands of radio hours, she provided a platform for deep music and arts exploration. Liz has a long history of interviewing both established and emerging artists of many forms – including musicians, performance and visual artists, authors, filmmakers and more – for not only radio but for print and stage. Hear Liz with “Alternate Take” monthly on dublab.