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EdLeaders Australia

EdLeaders Australia

By Luke Callier and Mathew Irving
This is the podcast for Aspiring, Middle and Senior Leaders in Education. Each week we dive into a topic to talk leadership, strategy, culture and the business of K-12 education to define what success looks like in an educational setting in the 2020's and beyond. Hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier.

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E26 - Catherine Misson - The Responsibility of Leadership | Principal of Havergal College
In this episode we chat with Catherine Misson, Principal of Havergal College in Toronto, Canada and former Principal of Melbourne Girls Grammar.  You can connect with Catherine on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-misson/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
51:24
June 10, 2021
E25 - Phillip Heath AM - Head of Barker College
In this episode, we chat with Phillip Heath, the Head of College at Barker College in Sydney about being a leader and advocate for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Students, a champion for reconciliation and how we as the next cohort of leaders can help shape the education landscape to address the education gap for first nations peoples.  There's no easy answers or right answers in this space, but this interview challenges us to consider how we can do more.  You can connect with Phillip on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-heath-am-7666a618/ or follow him on Twitter at: @PJjHeath As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
41:21
May 19, 2021
E24 - Dr Paul Browning, Headmaster at St Pauls School in Brisbane
In this episode, we chat with Dr Paul Browning, Headmaster at St Pauls School in Brisbane You can connect with Dr Paul on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauldbrowning/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
48:20
April 22, 2021
Ep 23 | Rocky Collins - Distributed School, Connected Leadership
In this episode, we chat with Rocky Collins, Principal of SEDA College WA. Rocky takes us through his journey into leadership at SEDA, the distributed nature of the College and how that impacts on his leadership style and how he embeds relationships at the centre of their educational model. Student Agency and Student Voice - how they listen to students and how this helps them in being agile and ensuring that they're walking the journey with the students. How the board is open to student centred success, which is derived by defining individual students goals - and measuring success based on these goals and how they help facilitate students towards that success. You can connect with Rocky on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocky-collins-97909545/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
50:03
March 31, 2021
Ep 22 | Dr. John Collier - Work Life Meaning
In this episode, we chat with Dr. John Collier, Principal of St Andrew's Cathedral School and the Gawura School in Sydney. Dr. John takes us through some of the most challenging aspects of being a school leader and discusses the types of leadership required in the most challenging moments as well as at different points of the journey. He discusses whether the Masters of Educational Leadership, the Doctor of Education or the Masters of Business Administration is the best possible preparation to be a Principal of an Independent School. He speaks candidly about the influence of politics on education and the benefit of dissent, as well as how we can think about indigenous education and be aspirational about reconciliation through education in Australia. A great episode with one of the most experienced Principals in Australia. You can find Dr John at https://www.sacs.nsw.edu.au/about-us/principles-message/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
45:30
March 21, 2021
E21 - ACEL WA Panel with Valerie Gould, Lisa Rodgers & Dr Debra Sayce | Leadership Challenges and Opportunities - A View from System Leaders
What are the challenges and opportunities facing educational leaders in 2021?  In this episode, we deviate from our traditional chat or interview and instead hit the road with the mic to a panel discussion featuring the three system leaders in WA - exploring what the new normal of education might just look like in 2021. The panel featured Valerie Gould (Executive Director at the Association of Independent Schools of WA), Lisa Rodgers (Director General at the WA Department of Education) and Dr Debra Sayce (Executive Director of Catholic Education WA) and was MC'd by Mathilda Joubert, President of ACEL WA Branch - who was instrumental in getting the approvals required for this podcast to be published on EdLeaders.  This episode was recorded live on Friday 5th March, 2021 at the Parmelia Hilton in Perth and has been published with the consent of ACEL and all  speakers involved. As it was recorded live we do apologize for the clanking of knives as this was a breakfast panel!  To hear more from the speakers - please connect with them on LinkedIn: Mathilda Joubert - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathilda-joubert-8299705/ Valeria Gould - https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-gould-71a65152/ Lisa Rodgers - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-rodgers/ Dr Debra Sayce - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-sayce-0366b292/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
01:14:14
March 16, 2021
Ep20 - Allan Shaw | Principal of The Knox School
In this episode, we chat with Alan Shaw, Principal and CEO of The Knox School in Melbourne. We journey with Allan as he takes us through the highs and lows of his time as a young Founding Principal of Peter Moyes Anglican School in Perth, to the advocacy role as CEO of AHISA and how that impacted his current role as the Principal at The Knox School. He speaks candidly about some of the real challenges that come with being a principal and some of the things he's learned along the way. We hope you enjoy this fascinating chat with Allan. You can find Allan Shaw on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanjshaw As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders Australia and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your favourite podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
54:46
March 4, 2021
E19 | Making Student Agency Real - A Journey into Micro-credentials.
In this episode Luke and Mat discuss student agency in schools, why it is important, and how it continues to evolve in Schools, as well as a long discussion and look under the hood of the Micro-credential program Mat and Luke are implementing in 2021. Including: What do Micro-credentials mean for students? The types of micro-credentials being run. Opening up students to life skills, vocational skills and career pathways beyond their typical academic subjects. The shift from teacher to facilitator and the subtle differences. The challenges in finding teachers within schools to facilitate micro-credentials How Micro-credentials might help break down ATAR The challenges and difficulties in running a micro-credential program.  The breakdown of binary pathways for students. Where the future of micro-credentials might lead us. If you'd like to know more about micro-credentials in schools, you can connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your podcast player.
46:21
February 24, 2021
Ep 18 - Paul Teys | Boards, Brands and Student Success
In this episode Mat and Luke chat with Paul Teys - Principal at Hunter Valley Grammar School between 2008-2020 and former AHISA board member 2015-2019. The conversation talks about navigating principalship, how boards have evolved over the last 20 years and how they can best support principals, the need for more to be done for cross-school leadership development in the independent sector and what he believes success looks like for young people graduating from school in 2021.  You can find Paul Teys on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulteys As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter and also please remember to leave us a review on iTunes or your podcast player. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
41:22
February 17, 2021
E17 - 2020 Review with Mat & Luke
In this episode Mat and Luke review our biggest takeaways from 2020, where strategy might be heading and how we went with our to learn lists.  As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
48:43
December 27, 2020
E16 - Kim Edwards - Lessons from Leadership
In this episode with Kim Edwards, we discuss the lessons she's learned from 30 years in leadership roles in school, how data and evidence should be contributing to teaching and leadership and what will the future of edtech look like.  As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
01:01:51
December 20, 2020
Ep 15 - Dr. Shane Glasson - Leadership and Learning Agility, the 7 Traits Educational Leaders Must Have
In this episode we chat with Dr Shane Glasson FACEL (WA, National) about identifying potential leaders, using data in leader recruitment, learning agility and the 7 traits educational leaders must have to be great leaders. Shane has a wealth of knowledge, 7 degrees, and over 30 years of experience in education, with the last 15 years in Catholic Education WA's Head Office in system-wide roles. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
50:34
December 16, 2020
Ep 14 - Paul Belton - Principal at St Pauls College, Adelaide
As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
41:24
November 8, 2020
Ep 13 - Steve Byrne - Leading Change. Principal at Sacred Heart College, Adelaide
Being a change maker isn’t easy. Steve Byrne has undertaken some huge change projects during his principalships including taking a school co-ed and amalgamating three schools into two and in this episode we dive into that, how he manages his relationship with the chair and how to think about your career strategically. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
43:51
October 25, 2020
Ep 12 - John Burke - Building a School and School Culture from Day Zero
In this episode, we chat with the Principal of Bob Hawke College, John Burke. John has a wealth of leadership experience in senior high schools in WA, including principalships at Belrdige Secondary College, Hedland Senior High School, and an Associate Principal role at Gilmore College. We talk about what John sees as the fundamental roles of schools, his continued growth as a leader, what he's looking for in recruiting the right staff, enabling your staff’s superpowers and what he took away from a leadership development opportunity at Harvard. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
38:54
October 12, 2020
Ep 11 - Rob Beveridge and Coaching a Winning Culture in Schools
In this episode, we chat with high-performance basketball coach Rob Beveridge. With 300+ NBL games and experience at both Junior and Senior National World Championships - Rob has some experience when coaching to get the best from his team. We discuss how School Leaders should consider what their team is like when providing coaching and how to set up structures to empower your team to become leaders themselves. You can connect with Rob on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-beveridge-57589217/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
54:40
September 24, 2020
Ep 10 - Professor Gary Martin | Why Building a Social Media Profile is Important for School Leaders
In this episode we chat with Professor Gary Martin, CEO of the Australian Institute of Management Western Australia.  We discuss how School Leaders should be embracing Social Media in order to tell both their story and the story of the school. We also touch on how boards should be empowering leaders to make this part of their role and how and why it will help your school in the long run and Gary's 8 R's framework for creating your social media career profile.   Gary writes across a number of publications, and if you want to hear from Gary, you can join his 60,000 followers and find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/professorgarymartin/  As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
42:38
August 15, 2020
Ep 9 - Recruiting Great Leaders with Fiona Hutton
In this episode we are joined by Fiona Hutton, Director of Hutton Consulting. Hutton Consulting is one of Australia’s leading executive search companies and specialises in attracting, sourcing, growing  and transitioning school leaders across Australia. Recently they've placed Executive Leaders at Haileybury,  Walford Anglican School, Ballarat Grammar,  De La Salle College and Wesley College Victoria. Together we cover a broad range of topics related to Executive Leadership recruitment in schools including: Fiona's approach to determining "the heartbeat" of a School and whether its values are lived in everyday campus life  When Principal fit is about more than values Where a school is in their "life cycle" may influence the type of leader it requires Leaders Vs CEO's - are the next generation of School leaders really prepared for being a CEO What are some tips for teachers to develop their skills to shift from classroom manager to people manager The interview process to be a Principal - how to be really ready.   If you'd like to find out more about Fiona and Hutton Consulting - check out https://hutton.education/ or find Fiona on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionahutton/  As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
01:01:47
July 10, 2020
Ep 8 - Culture. We all talk about it, but what is it really?
The definition of a culture is the patterns of behaviour in a group of people. But is it that simple? In this episode we dive into what this means in a school context and discuss how its both visible and invisible, seen and unseen. When culture is great or poor, people know it when they feel it but can’t always describe it. But how do we as school leaders guide, shape and influence culture? Ultimately its about every decision that gets made in an organisation and the standards we accept in the 1%’ers every day. Can you have a great culture without a great leader? Let us know about how cultures have been shaped in your context. Head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email.
46:40
June 21, 2020
Ep 7 - Strategy in Schools
In this weeks episode we dive into what is Strategy, how it shapes up in comparison to coporate strategy and Mat takes us through his version of Strategy 1.0, Strategy 2.0 and Strategy 3.0 in Schools. Enjoy.  If you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter.  
41:25
May 29, 2020
Ep 6 - Strategic Thinking
In this episode we look at Strategic Thinking and the skills you need to develop in order to be a better Strategic Thinker.
51:03
May 24, 2020
Ep 5 - The Challenge of 'To Learn' Lists
In this episode we dive into "to learn lists' and we run through how we went going through the process ourselves in creating our own "to learn lists". Enjoy. We'd love to hear your feedback on what you like or don't like about the show...  head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter.
45:04
May 17, 2020
Ep 4 - Lifelong Learning
In this episode - we break down 4 of the habits of life long learning, discuss the fascinating Eton College response to the Coronavirus Issues facing education in the UK and look at absenteeism data across a selection of Australian Schools during remote learning. If you have questions, feedback or just love the show - head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter.
53:58
May 13, 2020
Ep 3 - Nine Traits of Exceptional Staff
In this episode Mat and I discuss a list of the 9 traits on an exceptional employee and how they stand out of the crowd. Interesting for both leaders and employees alike to consider how they think the 9 traits apply to themselves.  If you like the show, please head over to our website to signup for our regular newsletter and if you have a question or a topic you'd like us to dive into on the show - hit us up on lcallier@edleaders.com.au or mirving@edleaders.com.au www.edleaders.com.au
57:40
May 1, 2020
Ep 2 - Digital Devices in Schools, University Entry & Schools with No Timetables
A dive into the latest conversation in Education, using devices in schools, direct entry to university and schools with no timetables.  **Post publish note - this episode was recorded pre-covid, in a future episode we will review our discussions on laptops as learning tools and how many attitudes shifted with the covid challenge.
30:20
February 18, 2020
Ep 1 - Seven Traits of Great Leaders in K-12 Education
In this episode, Mat and Luke chat about the leadership traits of great leaders in K-12 education.  If you like the show, please head over to our website to signup for our regular newsletter and if you have a question or a topic you'd like us to dive into on the show - hit us up on lcallier@edleaders.com.au or mirving@edleaders.com.au www.edleaders.com.au
52:51
February 1, 2020
EdTalk Australia - Coming Soon
EdTalk Australia is hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier and explores leadership, strategy, culture and change in Education. Season 1 of the show is coming soon!
00:31
February 21, 2019