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The Emergent Strategy Podcast

The Emergent Strategy Podcast

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The official podcast of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute - each episode we dive deeply into the life, practice and experimentation of a person or group who we see as living embodiments of emergent strategy. Emergent Strategy is about how we get in right relationship with change - what are the simple interactions that can shift and shape complex systems and patterns? Hosts are Sage Crump, Mia Herndon and adrienne maree brown.
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Transiting with Omisade Burney-Scott

The Emergent Strategy PodcastMay 12, 2022

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Fan Favorite: Boundaried in Love with Prentis Hemphill (2021)
Feb 16, 202301:01:41
Host Favorites: Relating During the Pandemic with Autumn Brown (2021)
Feb 09, 202358:47
Host Favorites: Chaos Minded with Mwende Katwiwa (2021)
Feb 02, 202301:03:38
Host Favorites: Devotion, Strategy and Rigor with Sendolo Diaminah (2021)
Jan 26, 202301:03:29
Shifting the Culture with Complex Movements
Jan 19, 202301:01:22
Tending Our Soil with Mia Mingus
Jan 12, 202356:47
Liberatory Harm Reduction with Shira Hassan
Dec 22, 202251:14
Internal Freedom with Ericka Huggins
Dec 15, 202243:27
The Digital Apothecary with Moya Bailey
Dec 08, 202256:54
Answering Your Call with Nicole Newman and Aja Taylor
Dec 01, 202257:22
Building New Worlds with Ashoka Finley
Nov 24, 202249:39
Controlling Our Narrative with Vicki Meek
Nov 17, 202248:14
The Power of Play and Imagination with Chelsea Cleveland
Nov 10, 202201:17:05
Holding Change with Micky ScottBey Jones
Nov 03, 202256:11
Imagining What's On The Other Side with Makani Themba
Oct 27, 202201:04:51
Black Feminist Futures with Paris Hatcher
Oct 20, 202255:26
Metabolizing Fear with Briana Herman-Brand
Oct 13, 202256:56
Declaring the Self You Want with Alta Starr
Oct 06, 202248:41
Minding Your Relations with Adaku Utah
Sep 29, 202201:01:36
Civic Alchemy with Yazmany Arboleda
Sep 22, 202254:08
Disrupting White Dominant Culture with ashley sparks
Sep 15, 202252:56
Yin Timing with Lindsay Fauntleroy
Sep 08, 202201:08:08
Filling the Gap with Caitlin Breedlove
Sep 01, 202255:55
Radical Grievance with Malkia Devich Cyril

Radical Grievance with Malkia Devich Cyril

Grief is power and grief as a way to strength and intimacy are some of the ideas that this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest, Malkia Devich-Cyril, explores with host, Sage. An illuminating conversation about an honest collective embrace of grief that might also aid in our emphasis on belonging. 

This is our last episode until September. ESII is going on summer break! Have a beautiful summer and there will be more of season 2 in the fall. Thank you for listening!

Transcript found here. 

Jun 30, 202250:31
Embodied Decolonization with Camille Barton

Embodied Decolonization with Camille Barton

Artist and embodiment educator, Camille Barton, talks with ESII host, adrienne, about art, somatics, and strides to move towards a more decolonized inner (and outer) world. Camille has learned that somatics is less about relaxation and more about being able to sit with and feel more. 

Transcript can be found here.

Jun 23, 202237:49
Slowness, Intention, and Ease with Latham Thomas Part 2

Slowness, Intention, and Ease with Latham Thomas Part 2

Latham Thomas continues her conversation with ESII host, Mia. Latham is an entrepreneur, self-care sorceress and founder of Mama Glow, New York's premiere maternity lifestyle brand committed to supporting women and birthing people along the childbearing continuum. In part two of their conversation, Latham talks about Mama Glow, care work needing to be valued, the difference between a passion and a calling, and sitting with the question "does it tire me or does it inspire me"?  


Transcript found here. 

Jun 16, 202235:38
Slowness, Ease, and Intention with Latham Thomas Part 1

Slowness, Ease, and Intention with Latham Thomas Part 1

"The Universe rewards courage," says Latham Thomas, founder of Mama Glow and this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest. In part one, of a two-part interview, Latham joins longtime friend and ESII host, Mia Herndon, to talk about working towards a rhythm that works for you, tending to the things that we want to see come to fruition, and the practice of care.   


Transcript found here. 

Jun 09, 202253:52
Slowing Down Your Slow Down with Geoffrey Jackson Scott

Slowing Down Your Slow Down with Geoffrey Jackson Scott

Geoffrey Jackson Scott is a culture organizer, engagement strategist, creative producer and co-founder of Peoplmovr, which works with people to design strategies that move people towards liberation. Geoffrey joins ESII host, Sage, to talk about the physical, spiritual, and mental spaces his work asks of him and some of the components of what it takes to facilitate deeper change and understanding.    


Transcript found here. 

Jun 02, 202256:38
Reverence for Ferment with Kasha Ho

Reverence for Ferment with Kasha Ho

Dear listeners, if you all did not already know how fantastic microbes are, Kasha Ho, is about to let you know. Kasha is the co-founder of the Groundwork Project and an avid and seasoned fermenter. Kasha relays to ESII host, adrienne, how the bubbling, briny, and delicious microorganisms found in foods like kimchi and sauerkraut support our gut health and are tied to a much larger life web. Make sure your mason jars and crocks are close by.    


Transcript found here. 

May 26, 202251:58
Earth Stewarding with Cris Izaguirre
May 19, 202258:28
Transiting with Omisade Burney-Scott

Transiting with Omisade Burney-Scott

Omisade Burney-Scott of The Black Girl's Guide to Surviving Menopause comes through to talk with ESII host, Sage Crump, about the difference between being older versus being an elder. Burney-Scott and Crump jokingly question the term "yelder," and reflect on the oftentimes rough edges of the liminal space. Burney-Scott's words encourage a gentle pause and (maybe) a soft example of being more truthful with ourselves.   


Transcript found here. 

May 12, 202252:20
The Nonlinearity of Healing with Spenta Kandawalla
May 05, 202254:25
Accountability Mapping with Daria Garina

Accountability Mapping with Daria Garina

Artist, somatic coach, and medium, Daria Garina joins ESII host, Mia, to talk about what accountability looks like, especially when we're feeling shame or guilt. How can we embody accountability as a way to integrate lessons, parts of ourselves, and move towards repair?  

Transcript can be found here.   


Apr 28, 202259:54
Possibility and Pragmatism with Thelma Golden

Possibility and Pragmatism with Thelma Golden

In her 22-year career, Thelma Golden and her team have lead with an eye to the future while being in conversation with leaders past, and hands in the community and arts world. Director and Chief Curator at the The Studio Museum in Harlem, Golden joins ESII host, Sage, to talk about her road to the arts, the life and role of The Studio Museum in Harlem, and imagination in leadership. 

Transcript to this episode can be found here.   

Apr 21, 202249:21
What the Whales Tell Us with Michaela Harrison

What the Whales Tell Us with Michaela Harrison

Michaela Harrison is a transmitter of music through song. Ya'll, Michaela also has a special relationship with our whale relatives. Harrison sits down with ESII host, adrienne, to talk about catching songs, singing with whales, and expanding our relationship with water.  

Transcript can be found here.

Apr 14, 202245:54
Design With Care: Lin Yee Yuan of Mold Magazine

Design With Care: Lin Yee Yuan of Mold Magazine

This week on The Emergent Strategy Podcast, Lin Yee Yuan, founder of Mold Magazine joins ESII host, Mia Herndon, to talk about industrial design as a place of experimentation and problem solving when it comes to facing our food crisis. Lin Yee and her team take an expansive and community-oriented approach to design and, and, and --well, you'll just have to listen. 


Transcript to this interview can be found here

Apr 07, 202251:01
Chicano Artivistism con Quetzal Flores

Chicano Artivistism con Quetzal Flores

What does it mean to make art outside of market politics? To use art not as an accompaniment to activism movements but an integral tool in constructing a new order? Quetzal Flores, musician, community member, and artivist works through this question with ESII host Sage Crump. 

"...oftentimes when we're talking about artists I feel like we're actually talking about culture bearers, holders of tradition, holders of culture, holders of information, holders of systems within information or systems within practices that offer us so much as to how to get ourselves out of this mess," says Flores. 

The full transcript for this episode lives here

Mar 31, 202247:04
Season 2: Fractaling with adrienne, Mia and Sage
Mar 24, 202201:01:05
I'll Stop There: Season One Reflection with adrienne, Mia, and Sage
Feb 03, 202248:05
Spell work, Spirit work and room for the unseen with Selma Alamin and Aesha Rasheed

Spell work, Spirit work and room for the unseen with Selma Alamin and Aesha Rasheed

Witches and queer Muslim femmes, Aesha Rasheed and Selma Alamin of Southerners on New Ground (SONG) join host, Mia Herndon, for a conversation about spirit protection, teachers, and movement work as spiritual work. 

"One of the mistakes that people make is to think that spiritual care is about silencing the hard stuff, it's actually about opening space for it," says Rasheed. 


Dec 31, 202155:47
Observing Urgency with Yolo Akili Robinson

Observing Urgency with Yolo Akili Robinson

Founder and CEO of BEAM (Black Emotional and Mental Health), Yolo Akili Robinson, visits with ESII host, adrienne, to talk about questioning capitalist, nonprofit urgency. Often, nonprofit timelines are not on community timelines. Hear how Robinson and team members navigate circumstances that are at odds.     

Dec 23, 202152:24
Dancing with the Speed of Trust with Shalewa Mackall

Dancing with the Speed of Trust with Shalewa Mackall

"All of us got rhythm because all of us have hearts," says Shalewa Mackall choreographer, poet, mother, and artist. Mackall joins Emergent Strategy Podcast host, Mia Herndon, on this week's episode to talk about being in touch with our own rhythms (it's not easy), not gaslighting yourself (okay), and learning to be in touch with your needs.

Dec 02, 202149:45
Honest Movement with PG Watkins

Honest Movement with PG Watkins

Organizer, facilitator and organizational strategist, PG Watkins, talks with host adrienne this week on the Emergent Strategy podcast. The two shower some love on Detroit and the rich possibilities in organizing that exist in the city as well as taking better care of ourselves and one another in movement building. 

Nov 18, 202101:00:49
Interconnectedness with Mallika Dutt

Interconnectedness with Mallika Dutt

"...and the medicine showed me that many of the ways in which I did social justice work in the world, actually upheld all of the systems of oppression that I was trying to dismantle," says Mallika Dutt strategic innovator. Dutt joins Emergent Strategy podcast host, Mia Herndon, and shares her journey from from activist to innovator and how Spirit and centering with the earth was crucial to that process.    

Nov 04, 202154:10
Devotion, Strategy and Rigor with Sendolo Diaminah
Oct 21, 202101:02:21
Be Bold with Jennifer Toles and Jonathan Stith
Oct 14, 202150:40
Divine Theater with Jonathan McCrory

Divine Theater with Jonathan McCrory

"What does it mean for the Black body to have a home on this continent that is not tethered to labor but is imbued by your spiritual abundance?"

Jonathan McCrory, Executive Artistic Director of the National Black Theater, joins host, Sage Crump, on the Emergent Strategy podcast this week to discuss bringing the book, Emergent Strategy, to the theatrical sphere and divine co-creation.  

Sep 23, 202147:01
Transformative Funding and Organizing with Xiomara Caro-Diaz

Transformative Funding and Organizing with Xiomara Caro-Diaz

"I think it's a big opportunity in terms of emergence of allowing for new possibilities of things you never imagined. I think that is something important to center in the context of moments where there is a lot of pain, there's grief, there's loss and it's really important to be able to see that -- even in those moments --something new will emerge," says Xiomara Caro-Diaz about organizing and collaborating post Hurricane Maria. Caro-Diaz is the Executive Director of the Maria Fund and joins host, Mia Herndon, to talk about transformative funding, making space for people's humanity and what the U.S. could learn from Puerto Rico. 

Sweet coqui frogs make a special appearance.    

Sep 09, 202152:21
Emergent Education with Ana Luis, Luis Alejandro Tapia and Marinieves Alba

Emergent Education with Ana Luis, Luis Alejandro Tapia and Marinieves Alba

"Who are you when you walk into a space with young people?" asks Ana Luis, education facilitator and one of three guests on the Emergent Strategy podcast this week. Luis is joined by educators Marinieves Alba and Luis Alejandro Tapia to talk about what emergent strategy could look like when applied to the teacher-student dynamic.    

Aug 26, 202151:13
Philanthropy: A Necessary Death With Javier Torres-Campos

Philanthropy: A Necessary Death With Javier Torres-Campos

"Philanthropy is a system that will die with capitalism," says this week's guest, Javier Torres-Campos, program director of the Thriving Cultures program at Surdna Foundation. Torres-Campos manages a $9 million grantmaking portfolio. He talks with host, Sage Crump, about encouraging an imagination in the philanthropy field and creating new values around grantmaking processes.   

Aug 06, 202152:15