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Write Where It Hurts

Write Where It Hurts

By Eva Des Lauriers

Join Eva and Katryn as they laugh (and sometimes cry) about writing, publishing, and the courage it takes to live your story. Tune in for a safe space in which two writers frankly discuss the mental health issues that can come up when navigating everything from querying, to submission, to publishing for the first time. Katryn and Eva offer laughs and real-talk inspiration for writers at each stage of their journey. Join in the conversation with Write Where it Hurts and remember: it’s not just you!
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BONUS: Growing As Artists

Write Where It HurtsApr 15, 2024

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S2 Ep 20 Ask Us Anything Season Finale!

S2 Ep 20 Ask Us Anything Season Finale!

Eva and Katryn celebrate the last episode of Write Where it Hurts Season 2 with a very special episode (VSE™): and Instagram Live. They discuss the ups and downs of the year, answer your craft, publishing and podcast questions, and reveal what lies in store for season 3!

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Sep 11, 202301:01:14
S2 EP 19 Writing Through Tough Times

S2 EP 19 Writing Through Tough Times

JOIN US ON FRIDAY 9/8 for our IG LIVE SEASON FINALE @writewhereithurtspod

In the penultimate episode of season 2, Eva and Katryn discuss navigating writing and publishing during tough times—from using story to process trauma, to dealing with deadlines when you’ve got a case of the mean reds. Eva exalts the glory of TSA precheck and Katryn pays homage to the healing powers of Olivia Benson. 

*Content warnings: Grief, trauma, mental illness, pandemic. CLARIFYING NOTE: Katryn talks about the type of mental illness that feels like a “choice”- this is in reference to a level of illness that affords the agency to control symptoms with therapy and/or medicine.

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Sep 04, 202301:07:34
S2 EP 18 Our Favorite Craft Books (Part 2)

S2 EP 18 Our Favorite Craft Books (Part 2)

Eva and Katryn discuss their favorite resources on craft--from books to blogs and writer’s groups. Eva discusses her origin story of studying craft, and Katryn makes a confession.

Aug 28, 202350:23
S2 EP 17 Our Favorite Books
Aug 21, 202301:22:41
S2 Ep 16 Pace Perfect
Aug 14, 202301:12:43
S2 EP 15 Author Branding
Jul 24, 202301:19:04
S2 Ep 14 Letting Your Story Go
Jul 17, 202301:16:41
S2 Ep 13 Toxic Positivity
Jul 10, 202301:30:17
S2 EP 12: New Kid on the Block
Jun 26, 202301:20:21
S2 EP 11: Story Inspiration
Jun 19, 202301:29:44
S2 Ep 10: Working With Industry Professionals

S2 Ep 10: Working With Industry Professionals

This week, Eva and Katryn talk about the ins and out of communicating with industry professionals--like the details of signing with agents and editors, and communication expectations after you get a book deal. Your ultra-nerdy hosts blow their own minds as they realize that publishing a book is EXACTLY like The Fellowship of the Ring.

Cross-stitchable line of the week: “We can’t see your bear” -Ben (Katryn’s husband)

*Content warnings: Light discussion of trauma/anxiety

*NOTE: We are taking a mid-season hiatus until June 2023!

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  • Eva’s life-changing jeans!

  • Katryn’s debut, Drew Leclair Gets a Clue is challenged in Alabama

  • Eva finally saw Super Mario! Check out the amazing “Peaches” music videos from the movie and from Jack Black himself.

  • Ally Malinenko had a great quote about publishing. Check out her books!

  • Lauren Magaziner is Katryn’s first blurb author AND an awesome MG fantasy and mystery author. 

  • Nicole Collier shared many invaluable tips about what to ask your publisher after the ink is dry.
    Read the NYT interview with John Green about working with Julie Strauss-Gabel

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May 08, 202301:34:16
S2 Ep 9 Our POVs on POV
May 01, 202301:07:16
S2 EP8 Writing While Neurodivergent: Anxiety & Panic Attacks

S2 EP8 Writing While Neurodivergent: Anxiety & Panic Attacks

This week, Eva and Katryn start the first part of their writing while neurodivergent series. In the first part, the discussion focuses on anxiety (not technically under the ND umbrella but many of the symptoms are assumed to be anxiety by medical professionals), trauma, invasive thoughts, and panic attacks. This is a more serious episode (although there are plenty of laughs too!) so please note the content warnings and listen with care. Highlights include Katryn coming hard for the sheer number of affairs in adult lit, and Eva being so philosophical you might need to cross-stitch the whole episode.

*Content warnings: Brief mentions of suicide, self-harm, involuntary hold (51-50), sexual offenders (Woody Allen) & abuse, trauma, invasive thoughts, panic attacks, and depression.

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Our Books:

DREW LECLAIR Mysteries

I WISH YOU WOULD 

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Apr 24, 202301:35:27
S2 E7 Breaking Down The Blocks
Apr 17, 202301:18:35
S2 Ep6 Querying Part 2: Rejection
Apr 03, 202301:16:57
S2 Ep5 Querying Clinic Part 1: The Basics

S2 Ep5 Querying Clinic Part 1: The Basics

You asked for a whole episode dedicated to querying--and you got it! This week, Eva and Katryn start a two-part series on querying and rejection. In part one, they discuss how to craft a query letter, picking the right agent, tactics of sending queries in batches, and much more! Stay tuned to the end to hear the query letters that landed them their agents!

NOTE TO NEW LISTENERS: This episode is slightly different than our usual format. If this is your first time, we recommend starting with an earlier episode (like last week’s) to get an idea of our usual style.

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Mar 27, 202301:33:46
S2 E4 Talking About Tropes
Mar 20, 202301:23:06
S2 Ep3 Vulturing The Trunk

S2 Ep3 Vulturing The Trunk

Eva and Katryn honor devoted listener and Katryn’s best friend Karim’s birthday with a longstanding episode request: VULTURING THE TRUNK! In this episode, they talk all about trunked manuscripts--from self-care around leaving a book behind, to resurrecting books you thought were lost. Eva discusses retrieving scenes and ideas from her “story morgue” (spooky!) and Katryn finally cries while recounting a scene from Clifford Takes a Trip.

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Mar 13, 202301:20:31
S2 EP 2 Time Drought
Mar 06, 202301:07:10
S2 EP 1 From Seedling to Story
Feb 27, 202301:11:30
Fear of Success
Jan 23, 202301:12:15
EVA GOT A BOOK DEAL

EVA GOT A BOOK DEAL

Surprise! This week, on a very special episode of (not Blossom, but) Write Where it Hurts, Eva talks about the daily process of navigating offers for HER DEBUT BOOK DEAL!!!! Recorded back when it happened, Katryn interviews Eva about ALL the feels and all the details that come along with this process--from acquisitions to accepting an offer and everything in between.

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Jan 09, 202347:05
Ask Us Anything Season Finale!

Ask Us Anything Season Finale!

In the final episode of Season One, Eva and Katryn do an Instagram Live “AMA” answering your burning questions like will there be a season 2? And which season of Below Deck is the best to start? Join us for lots of laughs, including Eva’s realization that she is, indeed, Edward Cullen, and Katryn realizing that being an introvert means that she could easily be framed for murder. To watch our IG Live visit HERE (part 1) and HERE (part 2). We had a few technical difficulties mid-show, hence the two parter. See you next season!

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You want MERCH? You got it!

Winston Bishop is the greatest

Kate’s favorite Eva line includes the very dashing Count Chocula

The infamous Twilight quiz

Eva’s tactics for writerly success

*We’d love to hear from you! Fill out our feedback form HERE to let us know your opinions on topics and format for season 2.

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Dec 19, 202201:03:08
Craft Talk: Characters

Craft Talk: Characters

NOTE: JOIN US FOR OUR SEASON FINALE Instagram Live  AMA THIS Wednesday, Dec 14th at 5:30PST @writewhereithurtspod !

Eva and Katryn talk about characters and craft in their penultimate episode of season one—everything from navigating your protagonist’s mental health to managing the generational gap when you write for kids. Eva talks about “prodding” your creative spirit and Katryn somehow finds a way to connect it all to the 1996 film, Multiplicity. 

*Content warnings: Discussion about ableist phrases, mental health, trauma

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Dec 12, 202201:04:15
Choosing The Right Genre
Dec 07, 202201:06:26
The Lonely Life of an Author

The Lonely Life of an Author

In this week’s episode, Eva and Katryn discuss the loneliness that authors can face, from our solitary workspaces to the fact that few industry outsiders truly get the ins and outs of this business. Eva does a pitch perfect teenager voice, and Katryn is enraged by motivational listicles.

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Nov 28, 202201:18:07
Failure Is An F-Word
Nov 21, 202201:14:24
The Fear of Being ONE Book
Nov 14, 202201:03:38
Hurry Up And Wait
Nov 07, 202201:09:51
Trauma Brings The Drama

Trauma Brings The Drama

HAPPY HALLOWEEN! For this (sort of) Halloween episode of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn discuss the super fun and light topic of  writing and confronting trauma in our fiction. Eva hops on the sexual orientation train just for Mr. Darcy, and Katryn takes life lessons from Ice-T.

*Content warnings: Trauma, PTSD, fear of abandonment, fatphobia

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Oct 31, 202201:15:37
The Author Mind/Body Connection

The Author Mind/Body Connection

WE'RE BACK! This week, Eva and Katryn discuss the mind-body connection that comes along with being an author--from that feeling of bliss when you’re on a roll, to the agony when your body won’t let you keep going. Eva shares FOMO-inducing details about her magical trip to Scotland, and Katryn reaches epic new over-referencing levels.

*Content warnings: Illness and physical ailments, Katryn being hella depressing

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Oct 24, 202201:07:01
Gatekeepers (& Keymasters) of Publishing
Sep 19, 202201:29:04
Nurturing Your Creative Spirit

Nurturing Your Creative Spirit

This week, Eva and Katryn talk about how to feed your creativity, from the seedling of an idea through revisions. Music, exercise, mood boards and lots and lots of television? It all works. Eva talks about her childhood crushes (hello, Colm Wilkinson and Devon Sawa in Casper!) and Katryn explains how the Goo Goo Dolls made her buy a refrigerator.

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  • Behold the wonder of original Jean Valjean, Colm Wilkinson
  • Also, Katryn…really likes Butterflies and Hurricanes by Muse
  • The yachties of Below Deck have a recipe for espresso martinis because of COURSE they do
  • This article is a good overview if you missed the Barnes and Noble malarkey that is causing bestselling authors of color (like Kelly Yang, Meg Medina, and Keah Brown) to point out the systemic racism and ableism inherent in bookstores at the corporate level.
  • Eva’s playlist for “Seducing the Creative Spirit”: Evermore by Taylor Swift, I Will Follow You Into The Dark by Miya Folick, Now & Then by Lily Kernshaw & Goody Grace, Oh Baby by LCD Soundsystem
  • Katryn’s playlist: Gillian Anderson by Silent Meow, A Bad Dream by Keane, Cathedrals by Jump, Little Children
  • Spotify Playlist of all songs!

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Sep 12, 202201:25:27
Networking For The Socially Anxious

Networking For The Socially Anxious

In this week’s episode, Eva and Katryn talk about navigating writing spaces when you have social anxiety-from online friendships, to conferences, to being “out there” in social media land. Eva can't stop singing Good Charlotte's "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" & talks about the importance of finding your version of "theatre kids", and Katryn discusses "Clark Kenting" as a librarian to avoid author conversations.

*Content warnings: Eva apologizes in advance for getting this stuck in your head: Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous by Good Charlotte- music video

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  • Unlike Katryn, Shondaland thinks strobe lights are a good idea for depressed kids.
  • This group has a good community for aspiring writers across platforms
  • On Facebook only: Check out Disabled Kidlit Writers if you are a disabled author and want a safe networking space. Otherwise, groups like Sub it Club and DVPit Hopefuls (if you're a marginalized artist) are great for pitch and query critique.
  • Eva talks about Writing with the Soul (w/Adrienne Young)
  • Check out #findmywritingcommunity on Instagram to find fellow writers at every stage!
Aug 29, 202201:22:60
When Writing Ruins Reading
Aug 22, 202201:35:41
Revise, Cry, Repeat
Aug 15, 202201:21:22
Writing Your Own Story

Writing Your Own Story

This week’s episode is Eva and Katryn’s most personal yet, as they describe writing their own stories from their specific perspectives and intersections. Eva talks about being mixed race (while being--direct quote: “pale as the beacons of Gondor”) and honoring her culture on her own terms, while Katryn explores intersectionality and being “bi-everything.” Helpful note: Eva and Katryn say the word “complicated” roughly five thousand times, so please exercise caution if you turn it into a drinking game.

*Content warnings: Race, ableism, micro-aggressions, bullying.

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Aug 08, 202201:11:17
Pandemic Publishing

Pandemic Publishing

Eva and Katryn discuss really heavy things (Covid-19! Roe v. Wade!) but, true to form, still manage to make time to discuss frivolous boat-related shows. This week’s episode focuses on the issues authors have faced during the pandemic--from long wait times, to supply chain issues, to navigating lockdown with kids and also trying to write.

*Content warnings: The Covid-19 pandemic, pregnancy, abortion, the stripping of rights for people with uteruses, graphic discussion of childbirth (For those sensitive to the latter four issues, they are from the 17 to the 22 minute mark).

Note from the hosts: The historic event in the U.S. of the overturning of Roe V. Wade took place just before we recorded this episode. We decided to discuss it on the podcast because it affected our mental health deeply. While we mostly spoke to our own experiences and reactions regarding Roe v. Wade as we processed the news in real time, we didn’t state enough how much these laws impact the trans community. We want to state here that we stand for trans folks and against trans exclusion and all terfdom. Please check our sources for some amazing nonprofits that support ALL people w/uteruses after this crushing blow. 

*Correction: At one point Eva references The Equal Rights Act, but it is in fact The Equal Rights Amendment.

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  • Just a few gender inclusive nonprofits to consider when donating in a post Roe world:

Gender Justice

Planned Parenthood

  • Kate mentioned many, many ‘22 debuts in shoutouts! Please check out all of their wonderful books at either of these websites (22 Debuts or Classof2k22 Books).
  • We could not stop with the boats. The shows mentioned (along with Katryn’s weekly shout out to Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure) were Below Deck and Breaker High
  • Pick up Love, Lists and Fancy Ships by Sarah Grunder Ruiz for the yachtie in your life.
  • Our weekly quotations come from Roxane Gay and Linda Obst.

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Aug 01, 202201:28:45
Social Media & The Comparison Game
Jul 18, 202201:16:41
Parenting & Publishing
Jul 04, 202201:03:44
Taming Your Inner Critic
Jun 20, 202244:16
Expectations vs. Realities of Pursuing Publishing
Jun 20, 202201:17:12