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ExMormon Bookclub

ExMormon Bookclub

By Sabrina Smith
A friendly chat about what it is like to grow up in Mormonism and leave the faith. The fun, the struggles, and the frustrations.

A chat with an Ex-mo and her never mo (mormon), fringe-mo, and formerly mormon friends.

Humor mixed with rage, but mostly fun times. For never-mo's and ex-mo's alike.
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Faith Crisis? Nah! Doubt Your Doubts And Trust Your Gut!
Sabrina and Meredith trouble shoot a post Mormonism faith crisis, wading through how much to believe in and what and who to trust or not trust and the importance of Mindfulness. 
November 16, 2021
Love. Love? Love! With Ali
We talk a lot about toxic Mormon culture- meat, soda, soaking, and how true happiness is found by being your authentic self.  If it works for you, Mormonism can be great. If it doesn't, it can do a lot of harm.      From Southern Utah, Ali joins to talk about conference weekend and all the latest pop culture mormons stuff blowing up on LIzzy the Lezzie and  Vice of all things. 
October 10, 2021
Processing the Anger with Stacy
Today we have someone who is in the process of leaving the church, and is still in that very raw anger phase. Join us as Stacy shares this part of her journey.
September 15, 2021
Dear StakePrez.Com by Royce
Our old friend and fellow Aggie, Royce, stops in for a visit to tell us about his new website turned Reddit subthread and we discuss the wild rides Mormonism has brought into our lives and those of our families during the pandemic and before.   
August 29, 2021
Sarah Smith- Be Who You Are.
Sarah Smith talks to Sabrina about growing up in a part member convert family, and how the military played a role in her exit from the church.
August 10, 2021
Pie and Beer Day with Scarlet
TW: Kidnapping, sexual abuse, mental and physical abuse, Child abuse.... Pretty much, if something dealing with horrible things that can happen to people in life trigger you, this is not the episode for you.  Scarlet was the youngest of 21 kids in a very Mormon family. She was kidnapped as a college student, and basically went through a lot of shitty stuff from birth until a couple years ago.  The church had a negative impact and some correlation with some of these events.  occasional breaks for pie and beer for the 24th of July  ex-mormon  mock Utah state holiday, even though we aren't in Utah any more and don't have to deal with pioneer day. 
July 27, 2021
Best Two Years My ASS!!! With Skylar
Skylar had some crazy experiences on her mission, and at a church school. But the thing that ultimately lead her out of the church? Meeting her wife and finding a piece of herself she was previously unaware of. 
June 27, 2021
To Pioneer Trek or to Star Trek? A very Sci-Fi influneced convo with Kyle
Kyle, Host of a Doctor Who podcast Joins us to talk about his experienced growing up Mormon, and why he left.  Come geek out with us!
May 26, 2021
Scott part 2: In the Name Of Dolly
Scott and I continue our discussion, hitting the importance of story telling for humans, and the importance of finding the positives as well as the negatives in our lived experiences, especially as it relates to our Mormon background and culture. Badbelievers: find on Instagram- @badbelieverpodcast           Scotts instagram:@scott_strolls  Scotts facebook: @ScottSessions
May 02, 2021
Scott Part 1: A Mormon Reformation? Please!
In part 1 of a two part series we talk to Scott, a gay man from the Salt Lake Valley who grew up believing and has searched for a way to connect to his culture and redefine his faith and beliefs after leaving the church.  In part 1 we learn about some of the events that shaped him and lead him to want to become a chaplain.   Links for Scott and things related to this episode will be available in part 2. 
May 02, 2021
A Non-Mormon Goes To Utah State University
Nancy, Originally from Illinois, goes to Utah States and meets the love of her life and learns all sorts about mormonism.  Also in this episode, an introduction to a different kind of Jesus. What is the penal substitutionary atonement? We don't really find out, but we find out the atonement /savior isn't the only version for Jesus being our spiritual figure. 
April 19, 2021
Murder, Mormonism, Nihilism and Freia
A true crime fan, and a woman that loves to learn about religion just to understand the culture. Our chat with Freia was an adventure like no other, just like her journey in and out of Mormonism. 
March 24, 2021
Ex-Mormon TiK Tok With Aunt Lydia
Aunt Lydia is one of many in the popular wave of Ex-mormon Tik Tokers and today she takes more than her usual allotted Tik Tok minute to tell us how she got started on Tik Tok, and more of her personal story with the church. Follow her on tik tok at
March 04, 2021
Elle- Master of Divinity, Polyglot of Religion
Elle Milles-Warner grew up in a jack mormon home, tried to give the church a real run but the ridiculousness of Kolob and Missionary work brought out her dramatic side. In the end, she got a masters degree in Divinity and became a speaker of many religious languages and beliefs.
February 22, 2021
A Mixed Faith Marriage, With Keith
Keith was all in, until racism, church history and finally homophobic policies and church actions destroyed all hope of "staying in the boat." But what do you do when your shelf breaks and your wife's doesn't? Can you stay together? Keith has found a way to make it work.
February 06, 2021
Britton and Carolee
Britton and Carolee are our first married couple on the show. Both return missionaries they are in the process of an official church exit now.
January 22, 2021
The Queer Ward- With Ver
Ver is a non-binary asexual young adult that is finding zer way to  stay active in the church by taking it a la carte and figuring out what zie wants to keep, and what zie does not want to keep.   Oh by the way,  all of Zers siblings are LGBTQ as well and have only recently come out. How are zer parents who are active and believing mormons dealing with this?  How is the ward handling it?   And what resources has Ver found along the way that would be helpful to others?  Zie tells us all about it in this episode of ex-mormon bookclub. 
January 06, 2021
Noah Isaacs: Find The Box Thats Gay And Throw A Fab Party On Your Mission!
Noah Isaacs was a queer LDS guy in Utah, struggling to find a testimony and a place to fit in. Eventually he found his spot, still in Northern Utah, but outside of the Mormon faith of his parents.
December 25, 2020
Quite A Spiritual Trip! With McLean Taylor
Decended from a Prophet, a Divorce and the CES Letter was the beginning of the end for McLean. Or was it just a new beginning?
December 11, 2020
Everyone Is Going To Hell! Growing Up Evangelical With Leslie
Leslie is a Never-Mo Member of the IRL book club.  Grew up in the Quaker and a couple of Evangelical churches and eventually broke free. In the last of our Non-Member November series we take a look at some similarities and difference between Mormons, Evangelicals, and Quakers. 
December 04, 2020
Living through the Moonie Experience With Author Lisa Kohn
Lisa Kohn, author of To the Moon and Back shares her life experiences and compares notes between the Moonies and the Mormons
November 28, 2020
Jessie Shedden and the Plymouth Brethren Church
Jessie Shedden shares her experiences growing up in the Plymouth Brethren Church, how she left and talks about her memoir-Tomorrow's Never Promised
November 23, 2020
Finding Healing Through Music With Ben Grace
Ben Grace grew up in the Christadelphian faith. When that no longer worked for him, he used music to find healing and a help create a new faith home and community where others could also come, and heal
November 23, 2020
Leaving the Brotherhood
Season 2 of Ex-Mormon Book Club kicks off with Non-Member November and a chat with a former Catholic Dominican Brother.
November 05, 2020
November 5, 2020
November 05, 2020
Blessed Samhain
Our Halloween episode takes a spiritual turn.
November 01, 2020
Fit To Be Loved
Misty Monday morning thoughts on self worth and boundaries
October 12, 2020
America! When West Side Story Breaks Your Shelf, with Henry.
Henry has had one of the most interesting and unique journeys through and then out of Mormonism. Born in Arizona, with a good chunk of life in Sanpete County, UT and a mission to Pittsburgh. Henry has seen some things. But the most surprising thing of all? A trip to West Side Story was the beginning of the end not just for his testimony, but also his political views.
October 08, 2020
Kindness and Assholes
Sunday thoughts
October 04, 2020
Word To The Wise- Dumb! With Tricia Hansen
We chatted with an exmormon convert who's whole family was impacted by her flirt to convert moment. Plus and I depth convo on the word of wisdom and how coffee is good! And a few important thoughts on worthiness interviews and the corporate nature of the LDS church.
September 26, 2020
When Smoke Gets In Your Eyes: Learning to Breathe In Bad Airq
Monday mindfulness thought episode with host Sabrina Smith
September 14, 2020
Eric Pratt, Ex-Radical Mormon
Eric Pratt is a Police Officer in Central Utah, a hopeful restaurateur, a return missionary and a self-identified ex-radical Mormon. How did he go from extreemly dedicated believer to science minded Anti-Theist in less than two hours? And where does he sit on the spiritual spectrum now? Join us as we get to know Eric and his story.
August 24, 2020
Broken Mirrors and Love
A Sunday thoughtfulness episode where our host discusses platonic love and embracing being human and imperfect
August 09, 2020
Sunday mindful ramblings, a worship service.
Thoughts and feelings about aligning with the universe, and my first experience as an ordanined minister of the universal life church (non religious affiliated) creating my own religious rite, a sage smudging walking meditation ceremony
August 02, 2020
Recovering Agency, With Author Luna Corbden
Luna Corbden (Pen name Luna Lindsay) joins us to tell some of her personal story and journey, and talk about her book Recovering Agency: Lifting the Veil On Mormon Mind Control. We discuss Ants and God, Meditation, and what is a cult vs what is a high demand group.
August 01, 2020
Taking a Pause With Sara
Reiki Practicioner and nurse Sara talks about her new path and spiritual journey from a childhood raised in Utah as a Mormon to her spiritual rebirth in Seattle and continued journey in L.A.
July 04, 2020
"Honey, I Don't Think Utah Was Made For Me." Danessa Jones Colides With Utah.
Danessa is a queer person of color, originally from New York, currently living in Utah. She covers her experiences with racism, sexism, homophobia, and more and asks for people to not only listen and not dismiss her experiences, but be prepared to act in every day situations, not just march in protests
June 20, 2020
Ditching the Cult and Tackling Life, Leaving the Witnesses And Becoming a Pro Athlete With Erica
Ex- Jehovas Witness member, pro football player, and Transgender rights activist Erica tackles a conversation about leaving her childhood religion, owning her life as an out and proud transgender woman, and athlete. We also discuss things we have learned and watched and read this week as Black Lives Matter protests and activism swept our country in one of the most fitting starts to LBGTQ pride month since Marsha Johnson (a Black Trans Woman) lead the stonewall riots. We talk intersectionality, systemic issues, myths about trans women and as always the religions we grew up in, and how our world views shifted from those beliefs.
June 11, 2020
Covering All The Bases, With Steve
Steve joins us to talk about his journey in to and out of Mormonism, being a journalist in Utah, Church history issues, being the parent of a transgender child in mormonism, mormon racism history and issues, surviving Covid-19, and the possibilities of soccer, baseball and a review of tasting that Jim Beam Budwiser larger at our very last in person book club meeting.
May 31, 2020
Setting boundaries, aggressive grandparents and your kids, with Olivia.
Olivia talks about her journey out of the church and we trouble shoot grandparents aggressively trying to baptize her kid against her wishes.
May 22, 2020
Finding Your Own Spiritual Path With Carmen
Never-Mormon Carmen talks about growing up in the south, going to Christian school, and finding her own spiritual path. Plus a discussion on the reality TV Netflix binge Love Is Blind, and Glennon Doyle's master piece of a book- Untamed.
May 10, 2020
Game Night With The Ethical Slut: Polyamory with Seth
Seth joins us to discus how he became polyamorus, why he left the Mormon church, how to deal with jealousy, and why you should read The Ethical Slut. tw: suicide is discussed,
April 28, 2020
Mommy's Tired, Fast For Jesus
Sabrina has a conversation with two Never-mormons trying to understand the churches World Wide Fast on Good Friday. The group also discusses the Word of Wisdom, EFY and Mormon pop music, and how to survive quarantine during Covid-19.
April 13, 2020
Holding on to the Good and Letting Go of the Bad With Darkwing
We talk about choosing to watch Tiger King over General Conference. To fast or not to fast? And how to stay in the church and not be of the church when you disagree with racism and homophobia in the church and its policies.
April 12, 2020
Kissing on the A, and Cans of Gold: Becoming Rich in Friendship With Royce
Royce recaps his adventures with Utah State's Conference Championship victory, and trying to get back home mid-COVID-19. He shares his story, growing up in a Mormon family of ten kids, and leaving the church as the eldest male of the brood. We talk food storage mid apocalypse. Is wheat the new gold? Find out in this episode of ex-mormon book club.
March 31, 2020
Just Don't Bother! With Moana
Moana, a Pacific Iander who grew up in Utah discusses privilege, racism, sexism, and family within Mormon culture. Laughter lightens this heavy episode and helps us all weather lives ridiculousness, storms, and social isolation.
March 25, 2020
A Crime Walk and A Drunken Ramble With Hillary
1st generation Never-Mo Hillary Joins our host on a local tour of 911, the coroners office, and a meet up with the bomb squad. After we talk death and mormonism over a beer.
March 12, 2020
Booze and Magical Frogs with Jessica
Jessica, a never-mo friend, talks about serving our host her first wine tasting, working for budwiser, and seeing the Book of Mormon on Broadway.
March 05, 2020
Sister Pigeon and BYU Rainbows
We speak with fringe mormon Sister Pigeon, who has moved across multiple states to settle in Provo and help provide a safe space for the LGBTQ population. This week she helped "Rainbow" the campus after a mixed bag of hurtful and helpful BYU and LDS church policy changes
February 28, 2020
There Are Not Enough Cookies to Make Up For This! Fresh Out of Fucks With Stevie
Stevie, life long Mormon talks about the things that drove her from the church. Creepers coming after her kids, how weird garments are, betrayal from ward "friends" and what she believes now.
February 11, 2020
Q&A with a never-Mo (Part 1)
Sabrina Smith has an open discussion with her Never-Mormon friend Crystal, covering general questions from what a typical mormon week looks like, to missions, family life, and feelings about polygamy vs polyamory.
January 29, 2020
HAPPY PHOENIX FESTIVAL, and other holidays!
We have our first Never-Mo on to discuss Christmas and New Years traditions, something called Phoenix Festival, the Netflix movie Kalus, the LDS Churches reaction to fires in Austrailia, and entitled boomers at Sheri's on Christmas.
January 07, 2020
Kathy Carlston meets with us to discuss her life experiences as a queer former member of the LDS faith, a Columbine survivor, her involvement with prop 8 and navigating the death of her wife. We also discuss #LightTheWorld, and suggest an alternative. Books featured this week include Catcher in the Rye, Mistakes Were Made (but not by me) and a book with an interesting new take on David vs. Goliath.
December 11, 2019
Coffee In The Face of Shame
A chat with host Sabrina Smith and long time friend and former fellow ward (congregation) member Anna about her recent journey out of Mormonism, current event- Housewives SLC, and an assortment of important readings and books.
November 24, 2019