Finally Coming Out

Finally Coming Out

By Finally Coming Out

Join Melodie and Tamar as they share what it was like to come out later in life. They talk about what kept them in the closet until their mid 40's and how shame played a major role. The show also covers navigating first experiences with the same sex, co-parenting as two women, parenting children on the Neuro Diverse Spectrum, and how they found their place in the faith community as a member of the LGBTQ+ community.
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40: In the Shadows of Doubt: Standing Strong Against Institutional Gaslighting

Finally Coming Out Feb 05, 2024
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40: In the Shadows of Doubt: Standing Strong Against Institutional Gaslighting

40: In the Shadows of Doubt: Standing Strong Against Institutional Gaslighting

Prepare to be moved and motivated as we delve into a deeply personal and critical issue in this week's episode. We are two resilient gay mothers sharing our daunting experiences with gaslighting by the Ministry of Children and Families—a reality we've faced while advocating for the mental health support of our neurodivergent children.

We lay bare the emotional toll of questioning their perceptions and judgments in the face of institutional denial and manipulation. From dismissive tactics to the outright refusal to acknowledge our children's needs, we discuss the systemic obstacles that have tested our resolve.

This episode isn't just a narrative of struggle; it's a testament to the unshakeable strength required of two mothers who refuse to be silenced, invalidated or punished. It's an essential listen for anyone facing the gaslighting of authoritative bodies, and a call to arms for systemic reform to recognize and respect neurodivergence.

Feb 05, 202436:29
39 - What's that? The word "Homosexual" was never meant to be in the Bible?

39 - What's that? The word "Homosexual" was never meant to be in the Bible?

On this week's podcast episode, we share our first thoughts on the documentary "1946 - The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture."

Jan 08, 202424:24
38 - Two Gay Moms and a Beautiful Shit Show - A year in review

38 - Two Gay Moms and a Beautiful Shit Show - A year in review

It's January 1st 2024. What else would we post other than a "year in review"?

This year has been a ride and the shit has splattered all over the house... but today, we are more madly in love than we've ever been.


We can't wait to share with you where this year takes us!

Jan 01, 202444:45
37 - Surviving a Crisis Together - Meeting Your Partner Where They Are At

37 - Surviving a Crisis Together - Meeting Your Partner Where They Are At

If you've followed along, you will know that life has thrown us many challenges this past year. In this week's podcast episode, we share how we are doing and how we have fallen more in love with each other while surviving some major crises.


Mental health is hard. Not meeting each other where we are at, is harder.

Nov 20, 202325:49
36 - Mental Health - When The System Works Against You

36 - Mental Health - When The System Works Against You

It's been a long time since we last posted an update on how life is rolling. On this week's podcast, we give an honest look at what we have been through as we fight for our little girl. We have fought like zombie warriors and are living to tell about it!

Nov 18, 202344:01
35 - Navigating Mental Health and Emotional Hardships as a Couple

35 - Navigating Mental Health and Emotional Hardships as a Couple

In this week's podcast episode, we share some of our raw strategies for how we navigate hardships as a couple. And at that, a couple that has only been together for a year.

The past few months have been very difficult for our family and many people have asked how we are doing as a couple. This week we share from our hearts how we keep ourselves together and grow even stronger. More in love, every day.

Oct 23, 202332:13
34 - Mental Health and when the system manipulates you...

34 - Mental Health and when the system manipulates you...

Join us in this week's podcast while we give an update on our little girl and our battle to find her help.

Oct 05, 202338:46
33 - Mental Health and when the system fails our children

33 - Mental Health and when the system fails our children

Join us today as we share our super vulnerable and painful story of trying to get mental health support for your young, 7 year old girl.

We share our story so that others in the same sinking boat are not alone and that onlookers can gain insight.

Fight Mode is on.

Sep 21, 202329:08
32 - Movie Review - "Pray Away"

32 - Movie Review - "Pray Away"

Join us in this week's podcast episode as we share our honest opinion of the movie "Pray Away." The movie follows 5 key leaders of the Exodus movement and how they came to see how harmful the lies in their message were/are towards the LGBTQIA+ community.

Sep 11, 202332:52
31 - Movie Review of "The Jesus Revolution" - Shit Show Style

31 - Movie Review of "The Jesus Revolution" - Shit Show Style

Listen up as this week Tamar and Melodie give their honest review of the movie "The Jesus Revolution." Join them as they consider parallels between the "Jesus People" or "Jesus Freaks" and the LGBTQIA+ / Pride Community.

Sep 04, 202329:31
30 - An Honest Update on the Beautiful Shit Show

30 - An Honest Update on the Beautiful Shit Show

This week we share in perfect transparency how life is going. I'm not going to lie, things have been really, really hard these past few months. God's presence has been undeniable, but these have been, and still are very hard times.

Thank you to everyone who knows us, loves us, and supports us. We love you and ask that you continue to pray for our family.

Aug 28, 202326:33
29 - What Goes Through Our Minds Before Coming Out Within the Church Part 2

29 - What Goes Through Our Minds Before Coming Out Within the Church Part 2

Join us on today's podcast as we share Part 2, of talking about some of the top pressing questions the gay community has before they come out. Melodie shares her experience of preparing to come out from within the church; While Tamar shares her what ran through her mind before she came out within a community of addicts in recovery.

Aug 21, 202337:51
28 - What Goes Through Our Minds Before Coming Out Within The Church - Part 1

28 - What Goes Through Our Minds Before Coming Out Within The Church - Part 1

Join us on today's podcast as we talk about some of the top 5 most pressing questions the gay community has before they come out. Melodie shares her experience of preparing to come out from within the church; While Tamar shares her what ran through her mind before she came out within a community of addicts in recovery.

Aug 14, 202330:07
27 - Fostering Communication Between the LGBTQ Pride Community and the Church

27 - Fostering Communication Between the LGBTQ Pride Community and the Church

Ever wonder how the church can communicate with members of the LGBTQ Community and visa versa? Listen up as we share a bit more of our story and some helpful strategies!

Aug 07, 202327:50
26 - Navigating Relationships in the Aftermath of Coming Out

26 - Navigating Relationships in the Aftermath of Coming Out

In today's podcast we talk about what it is like navigating relationships after coming out. We offer some tips for maintaining healthy relationships.

Jul 31, 202324:37
25 - Embracing Change - Letting Yourself Be Gay

25 - Embracing Change - Letting Yourself Be Gay

In this podcast, we discuss the importance of allowing yourself to "be gay" if you are in fact gay. We outline some important steps to consider when embarking on your coming-out journey. We share our own personal experiences and realizations as we allowed ourselves to "be gay" when we came out late in life.

Jul 24, 202335:31
24 - How we've made it for 1 year despite the odds

24 - How we've made it for 1 year despite the odds

Today we celebrate our 1st anniversary. We discuss how we've made it through some of life's hardest challenges and the current key to our success.

Jul 17, 202330:16
23 - Parenting without Liquor... so we survive.

23 - Parenting without Liquor... so we survive.

On today's podcast, we talk about how we parent through our beautiful shit show... without drinking alcohol to numb out.

Jul 10, 202336:14
22 - Navigating the Impossible

22 - Navigating the Impossible

In today's episode, we explain just how we do it. I get asked all the time, "How do you parent three kids with special needs"? We just do because you would too. It really is a Beautiful Shit Show. Today we share a little update on Lenaya and some tips on navigating the impossible.

Jul 04, 202337:11
21 - Two mom's and a Beautiful Shit Show of pride - part 2

21 - Two mom's and a Beautiful Shit Show of pride - part 2

Last week we brought to you our super vulnerable and transparent story of what is currently transpiring within our family. This week we update you on how our little Lenaya is doing and what we are doing to get through it all. Celebrating Pride Month hasn't gone exactly to plan, but decked out in rainbows at every moment is the go-to plan for our little duck. We couldn't love her more!

Thank you so much for all your words of support. We love each one of you...

Jun 26, 202336:26
20 - Two Moms and a Beautiful Shit Show of Pride

20 - Two Moms and a Beautiful Shit Show of Pride

Life can be A LOT, not just sometimes, but always. Our family brings a lot to the table, and I am sure that you can relate to one, if not several, of the platforms that we speak from.

On today's podcast, we take a moment to be super vulnerable and transparent about recent psychiatric events with our youngest child. We talk about raising neurodivergent children with invisible disabilities in the judgement of the public eye. We talk about how the reactions of onlookers could be the game-changers we need.

Here's a list of just a little of what makes our family pridefully ours:

- Two moms - our family lives within the spectrum of the LGBTQIA+ community

- Adoption - All three kids were adopted from the foster care system.

- Neurodiversity - Amongst all three kids, we work with ADHD, ODD, OCD, Tourettes, Attachment Disorder, Severe Anxiety, Cognitive Processing Disorder, Intellectual Disability, Fetal Alcohol Disorder, Trauma, and likely Intermittent Explosive Disorder. It's a lot.

- A blended family - Tamar has only joined our family in the last 11 months as a second mom to our three girls. Lenaya and the twins both come from different biological families.

- Indigenous Connections - All three girls are indigenous and collectively represent four different bands.

- Christian background - Faith is very important to us as we move through the world as gay moms.


This is just a little of what we navigate on a daily.

I hope you enjoy listening to us share our vulnerable and sometimes controversial truth on our podcast "Two Moms and a Beautiful Shit Show"


Jun 19, 202339:24
19 - Our kid's Pride

19 - Our kid's Pride

Join us today as we interview one of our teenagers about what it was like to find out her mom was gay within the Christian church. We talk about her memories of being adopted and what it was like getting two moms after 14 years with one. We also get her reactions to the laws getting passed in the States.

Jun 12, 202333:09
18 - Is Pride a Sin?

18 - Is Pride a Sin?

This week you get the opportunity to hear from two of our kids as they talk about what the word "Pride" means to them. Both of them are deeply neuro-divergent and share from their hearts what it means to live with Pride.

Jun 05, 202331:39
17 - Pride Month What?

17 - Pride Month What?

Listen up this week as we talk about raising 18-year-old twins, who live on almost every part of the Neuro Diverse Spectrum while transitioning to adulthood.

This week we also discuss where Pride Month came from and some great ways to celebrate!

May 29, 202343:09
16 - 1946 Clobber passages and the Infallible Word of God

16 - 1946 Clobber passages and the Infallible Word of God

In this week's podcast episode, we talk about how 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 came to be used as a "clobber passage" and how the word "Homosexual" was never intended to be in the Bible. We also talk about the concept of trust and if we can still say we trust in the infallible word of God. We talk about the documentary "1946" and about how a single word changed modern history.

May 22, 202331:05
15 Clobber Passages and Lies, Lies, Lies!

15 Clobber Passages and Lies, Lies, Lies!

For many LGBTQ+ individuals, religion and spirituality can be a source of comfort, community, and guidance. However, some religious traditions, including certain interpretations of Christianity, have historically condemned same-sex relationships and gender-nonconforming identities. This has led to the use of "clobber passages," or biblical verses that are often cited to condemn homosexuality and other non-normative expressions of sexuality and gender.

In this episode, we explore a couple of the clobber passages and just how legit the interpretation of them may not be...

May 15, 202324:08
14 Parenting Tales & Yay or Nay to the Label "Christian"?

14 Parenting Tales & Yay or Nay to the Label "Christian"?

In today's podcast, we share some fun stories on what it looks like parenting children with special needs. We learn about how to make a mouse trap and discuss how we feel identifying with the label "Christian" in a world that isn't very welcoming of it.

May 08, 202330:07
13 WWJD with Us?

13 WWJD with Us?

The current political climate in the states, especially within the state of Florida, has been weighing on us a great deal. We find ourselves left with the question of What Would Jesus Do? In this podcast episode, we look background behind the "WWJD" movement and at the teachings of Jesus in the Bible, including his emphasis on love, compassion, non-judgment and acceptance, and we discuss how these principles can be applied to our treatment of LGBTQ individuals.

We also explore the role of the church in advocating for LGBTQ rights and working towards greater inclusivity and equality. We discuss the importance of building bridges between the LGBTQ community and the church and finding ways to support and affirm LGBTQ individuals within faith communities.

Finally, we offer practical advice for listeners who want to make a positive difference in the lives of LGBTQ individuals. We encourage listeners to speak out against discrimination, educate themselves about LGBTQ issues, and support organizations that are working towards greater equality and inclusivity.


May 01, 202335:36
12 The Role of the Church in Supporting the Pride Community

12 The Role of the Church in Supporting the Pride Community

In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the important topic of how the church can support the LGBTQ+ pride community. As societal attitudes towards LGBTQ+ rights continue to evolve, many churches are grappling with questions of inclusivity, acceptance, and support for the LGBTQ+ community. It's time to be brave and step up into reconciliation.

Apr 24, 202330:46
11 Book Launch - Shameous - A memoir about the pain of shame prescribed by the church and a way to freedom through faith

11 Book Launch - Shameous - A memoir about the pain of shame prescribed by the church and a way to freedom through faith

Welcome to this exciting episode of our podcast, where we're celebrating the launch of the highly anticipated book, Shameous"!

Join us as we sit down with the author (me) to discuss the inspiration behind the book, the writing process, and the themes explored within its pages.

As we delve into the book's journey to publication, we'll explore the excitement and anticipation that come with launching a deeply vulnerable book launch like this.

Whether you're a fan of the author (lol), interested in the book's themes of shame and coming out as gay in the conservative evangelical movement, or just love reading, this podcast episode is not to be missed. So grab a cup of coffee, cozy up in your favourite reading spot, and join us for this book launch celebration!


Apr 17, 202323:32
10 Beyond Pink and Blue: Deconstructing Gender Stereotypes

10 Beyond Pink and Blue: Deconstructing Gender Stereotypes

Join us on a journey of exploring and challenging gender stereotypes in our society. Our podcast delves into the complex and ever-evolving issues surrounding gender identity, gender roles, and societal expectations. We engage a conversation with (what we hope are) thought-provoking insights and strategies for dismantling harmful stereotypes. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the impacts of gender stereotypes and how we can collectively create a more inclusive and equitable world.

Apr 10, 202319:34
09 Queering Parenthood: Diverse Families, Stronger Communities

09 Queering Parenthood: Diverse Families, Stronger Communities

Join us as we explore what it is like in this day and age of raising children in a family with two moms, and discuss the importance of normalizing diverse family structures. Our podcast celebrates the unique experiences and challenges of having same-sex parents while advocating for greater acceptance and inclusivity. We use our personal experiences to hopefully offer a fresh perspective on the modern family and encourage listeners to embrace diversity in all its forms. We offer a few ideas on how to help children, as well as yourself with the adjustment. Tune in to learn, connect, and join the conversation!"

Apr 03, 202322:23
08 The Power of Labels

08 The Power of Labels

This podcast explores how labels can be both empowering and limiting for individuals in the LGBTQIA+ community. Melodie and Tamar talk about the seemingly booming need for labels within the Millenial and Generation Z generations and how it differs from how they grew up in the '80s and '90s.

Mar 27, 202322:46
07 Cozy Nights In: Creative and Romantic Date Ideas at Home on a budget

07 Cozy Nights In: Creative and Romantic Date Ideas at Home on a budget

Staying in doesn't have to mean sacrificing quality time with your significant other. In fact, a night in can be just as romantic and exciting as a night out on the town. In this episode, we're sharing our favourite creative and romantic date ideas that you can do from the comfort of your own home.

Mar 20, 202320:44
06 Love Unleashed: Navigating Public Displays of Affection as a Gay Couple
Mar 14, 202319:50
05 Just The Five Of Us: The Unique Challenges and Joys of Raising Three Girls in a Family of Five
Mar 06, 202320:37
04 Late Bloomers: A Conversation with Melodie and Tamar on Coming Out Later in Life
Feb 27, 202321:31
03: Tamar's Journey: A Story of Courage and Self-Acceptance
Feb 20, 202314:01
02: The Journey to Self-Acceptance: Melodies Story of Coming Out as a Christian
Feb 13, 202321:10
01: Our Story of Finally Coming Out
Feb 06, 202345:00
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