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Foreign Policy Talks

By Noto Suoneto

A podcast to gather and connect the ideas of foreign affairs and international relations, covering the most - pressing global and regional issues in relates to democracy, geopolitics, international political economy, state-business relationship, global governance, and world youth trends.
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Ganjar-Mahfud's Vision and Mission on Indonesia's Foreign Affairs

Foreign Policy TalksNov 08, 2023

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Ganjar-Mahfud's Vision and Mission on Indonesia's Foreign Affairs

Ganjar-Mahfud's Vision and Mission on Indonesia's Foreign Affairs

Given the strategic and growing role Indonesia has at the regional and global level, particularly after two years back-to-back G20 and ASEAN leaderships, this episode will review how one of the candidates, Ganjar Pranowo and Mahfud MD have offered to the table when it comes to the country’s international affairs.
Both Ganjar and Mahfud are not foreign policy blind. On multiple occasions, they have shown sufficient knowledge on Indonesia’s position globally. In their vision and mission playbook, they are proposing a tagline “Towards an Excellent Indonesia”, with the foundation of having swift moves to achieve an advanced, justice and sustainable maritime nation.
Listen to the summary of their foreign policy agenda here! follow @foreignpolicytalks on instagram for further info.
Nov 08, 202321:22
Prabowo-Gibran's Vision and Mission on Indonesia's Foreign Affairs

Prabowo-Gibran's Vision and Mission on Indonesia's Foreign Affairs

Three candidates have been submitted their application to run as the new leader of Indonesia in 2024-2029. Prabowo Subianto and Gibran Rakabuming Raka is one of the three candidates. This episode will cover the summary of Prabowo-Gibran's Visions and Missions on Indonesia's international relationships.

The short summary is only based from the document that has been shared publicly from their campaign team. Follow @foreignpolicytalks on Instagram to ask more questions.

Nov 05, 202320:09
Special Episode- Why Do We Need to Understand China More? ft. Schwarzman Scholars

Special Episode- Why Do We Need to Understand China More? ft. Schwarzman Scholars

Listen to my conversation with two recipient of  Schwarzman Scholarship, Ryan Kueh and Hans Sebastian on the importance to understand China more in the future. Considering the consequential influence that China has to global politics and economy, these two guests have some thoughts on the ways China has been misunderstood. 

For your information, Schwarzman Scholars supports up to 200 Scholars annually from the U.S., China, and around the world for a one-year master’s in global affairs at Beijing’s Tsinghua University — ranked first in Asia as an indispensable base for China’s political, business, and technological leadership.

Scholars chosen for this highly selective program will live in Beijing for a year of study and cultural immersion — attending lectures, traveling around the region, and developing a better understanding of China. 

Dec 19, 202250:02
Special Episode: Year-End Review of Southeast Asia in 2022

Special Episode: Year-End Review of Southeast Asia in 2022

Please enjoy the Year-End Review of Southeast Asia in 2022 from the perspectives of Foreign Policy Talks members (specifically from our unit "Southeast Asian Society of Foreign Affairs (SASFA)". Coming from different countries with various expertise, we provide to you our candid thoughts on interesting moments that happened this year in the region!

Dec 08, 202201:03:13
Special Episode: Year-End Review of Our World in 2022

Special Episode: Year-End Review of Our World in 2022

Please enjoy the Year-End Review of Our World in 2022 from the perspectives of Foreign Policy Talks members. Coming from different countries with various expertise, we provide to you our candid thoughts on interesting moments that happened this year! 

Dec 05, 202259:47
EP #91 What did Indonesia's Jokowi Achieve from its Moscow and Kyiv 'peace mission'?

EP #91 What did Indonesia's Jokowi Achieve from its Moscow and Kyiv 'peace mission'?

Listen to my conversation with Dr. Yohanes Sulaiman, a Lecturer at Universitas Jenderal Achmad Yani in Indonesia on the latest President Jokowi’s visit to Russia and Ukraine, of what so called the 'peace mission' in the midst of today's war. Hosted by Thomas Noto Suoneto.
Aug 13, 202221:53
Special Episode - EU, ASEAN and the Future of Regional Peace and Unity

Special Episode - EU, ASEAN and the Future of Regional Peace and Unity

Happy Europe Day!

In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. In this episode, H.E. Igor Driesmans, the EU Ambassador to ASEAN shared his views on the future of regional peace and unity, the implementation of EU's sustainability efforts to ASEAN, the Global Gateway initiative, the EU's stances on the Myanmar crisis, and many more!

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May 15, 202227:42
Special Episode- Building a Stronger World: The Vision of Portugal and Indonesia

Special Episode- Building a Stronger World: The Vision of Portugal and Indonesia

Happy Europe Day! 

In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we had the opportunity to have a discussion with H.E. Maria João Lopes-Cardoso, Ambassador of Portugal to Indonesia, the Philippines and Brunei Darussalam. We explored an interesting discussion on the shared cultural values between Portugal and Indonesia, Portugal-Indonesia historic bilateral partnership, the ocean economy, sports, energy transition and Portugal's role in promoting peace and unity. Enjoy!

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May 14, 202242:31
Special Episode - Indonesia-France Strategic Cooperation Towards the Post-Pandemic Future

Special Episode - Indonesia-France Strategic Cooperation Towards the Post-Pandemic Future

Happy Europe Day!
In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. Foreign Policy Talks Podcast brings you the most up-to-date discussion with H.E. Olivier Chambard, Ambassador of France to Indonesia. We discussed France's views on Russia-Ukraine's geopolitical tension, the update on France's recent election, and how France promotes peace and unity regionally and globally. Enjoy the conversation!
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May 12, 202252:02
Special Episode - A Closer Cooperation, A Stronger World: Indonesia and Hungary's Perspectives

Special Episode - A Closer Cooperation, A Stronger World: Indonesia and Hungary's Perspectives

Happy Europe Day!
In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) Ambassadors in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we had such a gripping conversation with H.E Lilla Karsay, Ambassador of Hungary to Indonesia. We covered various issues including the vision for energy transition, trade and investment cooperation between Indonesia and Hungary, also the future of digitalisation, and how to promote peace and stability in the region.
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May 10, 202227:20
Special Episode - The Joint Future of Indonesia and The Netherlands: Some Key Issues

Special Episode - The Joint Future of Indonesia and The Netherlands: Some Key Issues

Happy Europe Day!
In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. Indonesia and the Netherlands have a long history. On this episode, we feature a conversation on the future of Indonesia-Netherlands bilateral relations. H.E. Lambert Grijns, Ambassador of the Netherlands to Indonesia brings us a delightful conversation covering Indonesia-Netherlands partnership, economic recovery, maritime cooperation and the geopolitical tension between Russia and Ukraine.
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May 10, 202233:47
Special Episode - Moving towards A Better World: How Poland and Indonesia Can Contribute?

Special Episode - Moving towards A Better World: How Poland and Indonesia Can Contribute?

Happy Europe Day!
In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic mission in Indonesia to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we had a gratifying conversation with H. E. Beata Stoczyńska, Ambassador of Poland to Indonesia.
Ambassador Beata Stoczyńska highlighted Poland's humanitarian efforts for the Ukrainians as well as expressed Poland's stance on the Russia-Ukraine war. We also discussed the energy transition and investment also trade cooperation under the future Poland-Indonesia bilateral partnerships. Listen now to get her insights!
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May 09, 202240:09
Special Episode - Time to Reshape the Future: Spain and Indonesia's Views

Special Episode - Time to Reshape the Future: Spain and Indonesia's Views

Happy Europe Day!
In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic mission in Indonesia to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we are happy to conduct an interesting discussion with H. E. Francisco Aguilera Aranda, Ambassador of Spain to Indonesia. We entertained a fruitful discussion regarding Spain's stance on the geopolitical crisis between Ukraine and Russia, the Indonesia-Spain partnership on renewable energy development, the ICT partnership and the initiative to promote economic cooperation between both states. Listen to his thoughts now!
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May 09, 202237:37
Special Episode - How Better Indonesia-Romania Relations Benefit the World

Special Episode - How Better Indonesia-Romania Relations Benefit the World

Happy Europe Day! 

In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we put a spotlight on a number of important topics with H. E. Dan Adrian Balanescu, Ambassador of Romania to Indonesia. We had meaningful talks regarding the trust in diplomacy amid geopolitical shock, sovereignty and territorial integrity, ambitious energy transition and how to enhance tourism cooperation between Indonesia-Romania. Listen now!

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May 08, 202228:36
Special Episode- Stronger EU and Indonesia Ties in the Midst of Geopolitical Shock

Special Episode- Stronger EU and Indonesia Ties in the Midst of Geopolitical Shock

Happy Europe Day!

In celebration of Europe Day, Foreign Policy Talks Podcast collaborates with the European Union (EU) diplomatic missions in Jakarta to bring a series of special episode podcast interviews to our loyal listeners. For this special episode, we are delighted to have a conversation with H.E. Vincent Piket, Ambassador of the EU to Indonesia and Brunei Darussalam. We discussed the EU's ambitious efforts in the EU-Indonesia relations, the EU's support for the G20 Indonesian Presidency, the EU's contribution to the worldwide economic recovery, and of course this episode shares the EU's views regarding the Russia-Ukraine war. Enjoy the conversation!

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May 08, 202251:24
Ep#81 Could Indonesia as G20 President Help De-escalate the Russia-Ukraine War?

Ep#81 Could Indonesia as G20 President Help De-escalate the Russia-Ukraine War?

We have listened a lot of distinct views on Ukraine-Russia war, and the big question is how to find the best solutions to solve the crisis immediately The spillover impacts of Ukraine-Russia war is everywhere, not only in Europe, but across the globe. Not only in the political sphere, but also economy, and even the state of a multilateral forum like the G20. Indonesia as the G20 President is pushed to take a part in resolving the crisis, with its diplomatic and political resources the group has. 

Could Indonesia as G20 President help de-escalate the Russia-Ukraine war? I talked to Professor Hikmahanto Juwana, Indonesia's leading international law expert and Chancellor of Universitas Jenderal Achmad Yani to explore that question. Check it out!

Apr 24, 202235:43
EP #80 The Challenges Behind COVID-19 Vaccines

EP #80 The Challenges Behind COVID-19 Vaccines

In this episode, I talked to Carina Joe, a Senior Scientist at the University of Oxford (AstraZeneca vaccine). Carina shared her experiences on how did she get involved in the vaccine invention and production We explored further on the issue of covid mutation, vaccine nationalism, and Indonesia’s vision to develop a vaccine manufacturing hub. Enjoy!

Apr 03, 202233:49
EP #79 Why India abstained when the world condemned Russia

EP #79 Why India abstained when the world condemned Russia

India was abstain at the United Nations votes over Ukraine-Russia crisis. There is a speculation that India is in a difficult position to against Russia’s attack to Ukraine. In this episode, I talked to Ambassador Gurjit Singh, former Indian Ambassador to Germany, Indonesia, Ethiopia, ASEAN and the African Union on why India abstained when the world condemned Russia, the same topic that Amb Gurjit Singh wrote recently at the Jakarta Post.

Mar 22, 202217:13
EP #78 Why Do Many Indonesians Back Russia's Attack to Ukraine?

EP #78 Why Do Many Indonesians Back Russia's Attack to Ukraine?

Listen to my conversation with Radityo Dharmaputra, PhD Student & Junior Research Fellow in Political Science at the University of Tartu, Estonia and Lecturer of Russia-East European Studies and Foreign Policy Analysis at Airlangga University on why do many Indonesians back Russia's position in the case of Ukraine crisis. Since the first attack of Russia to Ukraine, many Indonesians also experts offered their sympathy to Putin's decision as it is reasonable to protect their national security, why is it so? What makes them have this stance? 

Mar 13, 202238:35
EP #77 South Korea's New President, New Foreign Policy?

EP #77 South Korea's New President, New Foreign Policy?

In this episode, I talked to Sang Kim, Director of Public Affairs at the Korea Economic Institute of America on South Korea's newly elected conservative Yoon Suk Yeol set to become South Korea's next president after Lee Jae-myung, from the ruling Democratic Party, conceded defeat. In a nail-biting vote, the opposition leader won very tight with the democrat. Some big questions appeared, will he bring changes to Seoul's foreign policy? How is the future of South  Korea- Southeast Asia relationships?

Mar 12, 202227:56
EP #76 Will Putin Get What He Wants on Ukraine?

EP #76 Will Putin Get What He Wants on Ukraine?

I talked to Dr. Hana Josticova, from Centre for Russian, European and Eurasian Studies based in the United Kingdom on Putin's decision to attack Ukraine. With all of his justification, will he get what he wants at the end? Enjoy! 

Mar 05, 202238:04
EP #75 Ukraine-Russia Crisis, What's Going Forward?

EP #75 Ukraine-Russia Crisis, What's Going Forward?

Russia has launched a devastating attack on Ukraine, a European democracy of 44 million people, with military forces bombing some cities in the Ukrainian territory. The US, Western allies, and some countries in Asia have imposed sanctions to Putin, Russia and its oligarchs and isolating them from international financial institutions and economic activities etc. I talked to Dr. Kim Beng Phar, a Visiting Fellow to Harvard University and former Director of Political and Security Community at ASEAN on the impacts of this Ukraine-Russia crisis, the responses of major countries to the aggression and how it would move forward in the coming time. One important question explored at the end of our conversation, will ASEAN matter on this crisis? Enjoy!

Mar 03, 202249:49
EP #74 Updates on Korean Peninsula Peace Process

EP #74 Updates on Korean Peninsula Peace Process

I am delighted to talk to Eunwoo Lee from South Korea's Ministry of National Defense. We discussed around the recent developments on the Korean Peninsula and how would the upcoming Presidential Election in South Korea affect the future outlook of Inter-Korean relations. Enjoy our conversation! 

Feb 24, 202224:22
EP #73 Cambodia’s ASEAN Chairmanship

EP #73 Cambodia’s ASEAN Chairmanship

Listen to my conversations with Ambassador Pou Sothirak, Executive Director of the Cambodian Institute for Cooperation and Peace (CICP) on agendas and priorities of Cambodia as ASEAN’s Chair this year. I explored some questions with him such as how would Cambodia's Chairmanship assist the peace establishment in Myanmar and and how would Cambodia ensure that ASEAN will not be trapped in the middle of the great power competition. Enjoy!
Feb 24, 202243:28
EP #72 The Perception of A Malaysian Youtuber on Indonesia

EP #72 The Perception of A Malaysian Youtuber on Indonesia

In this episode, I talked with Ivy Phan, a Malaysian Youtuber and Content Creator on her experience living in Indonesia for many years. We discussed around her perception on Indonesia's socio-political situation and even try to compare the nation's democracy with Malaysia. Has she ever experienced any racial or religious discrimination in Indonesia? Find out here and enjoy our conversation!

Feb 22, 202221:34
EP #71 G20 Indonesian Presidency: Pursuing Global Economic Recovery

EP #71 G20 Indonesian Presidency: Pursuing Global Economic Recovery

2022 is going to be a very important year for Indonesia, as the nation will lead the G20 forum. As the G20 President, Indonesia has prepared numerous important agendas, mainly on economic and finance sphere. In this episode, I talked to Dr. Wempi Saputra, G20 Finance Deputy and Indonesia’s Assistant Minister of Finance. We conversed on the concrete proposals raised by Indonesia through G20 finance track this year to pursue faster global economic recovery.
Furthermore, Indonesia’s Finance Minister Sri Mulyani once said that Indonesian G20 Presidency will integrate all necessary measures not only to mitigate pandemic risks, but also with climate risks. Will Indonesia equally put climate change and its impacts as important as pandemic implications during the G20 forum?
Jan 18, 202230:07
EP #70 How to Manage and Engage Indonesian Diaspora?

EP #70 How to Manage and Engage Indonesian Diaspora?

Listen to my conversations with Ambassador Siti Nugraha Mauludiah, Advisor to Indonesia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs on Socio-culture and Diaspora. We discussed about the definition of Indonesian diaspora, the government’s strategy to manage them and the role that diaspora can play as the agents of Indonesia’s economic diplomacy. Some new initiatives to manage Indonesian diaspora as the national assets are revealed in this talk. Enjoy!

Dec 28, 202143:58
EP #69 Should We Reinvent our Multilateral Order?

EP #69 Should We Reinvent our Multilateral Order?

Our world is now facing multiple crisis and there has been a lot of criticisms towards the effectiveness of our multilateral platform to respond the crisis. Hear my conversations with Sundeep Waslekar, President of Strategic Foresight Group who recently wrote an essay on  his thoughts about global governance that published in the New England Journal of Public Policy. You can find it by Googling his name with New England Journal of Public Policy and download it without cost. We discussed on one critical question: should we reinvent our multilateral order? how?

Dec 25, 202131:05
EP #68 Why South Korea Fell Behind Japan in Southeast Asia

EP #68 Why South Korea Fell Behind Japan in Southeast Asia

I am talking to Adam Gadd, a Research Associate at Swedish Defence University who recently wrote an article at The Diplomat on why South Korea fell behind Japan in Southeast Asia. This episode gives you more discussion on things made Japan is more trusted as security partner for countries in the region and particularly explore how has the relationships with Japan and South Korea influenced the Southeast Asia’s position towards China. Enjoy!

Dec 19, 202117:46
EP #67 The Present and Future of Indonesia-Norway Bilateral Partnerships
Dec 14, 202130:12
EP #66 The Perception of Southeast Asians Towards China

EP #66 The Perception of Southeast Asians Towards China

Foreign Policy Community of Indonesia (FPCI) is recently conducting the ASEAN-China Survey 2021. The year 2021 is a special year for ASEAN and China as they commemorate the 30th anniversary of ASEAN China – Dialogue Relations that was established in 1991. In light of this, FPCI recognizes the importance of continuing the study. The survey is titled “ASEAN – China Survey 2021: Assessing Three Decades of Partnership.”

This year’s survey aims not only to assess Southeast Asian people’s perspectives on the ASEAN-China relations in various areas; political-security, geopolitical dynamics, trade, economy, connectivity, socio-culture, cooperation on COVID-19, but also to identify key trends, challenges, and prospects of cooperation after 1 year of the COVID-19 pandemic and onwards. The respondents are coming from 10 ASEAN nationals with wide-ranging background. 

Listen to my conversation with the Project Lead of this ASEAN-China Survey 2021, Calvin Khoe. Enjoy!

Dec 01, 202135:42
EP #65 The Outcome of COP-26 Glasgow and Indonesia’s Climate Commitment

EP #65 The Outcome of COP-26 Glasgow and Indonesia’s Climate Commitment

The COP-26 Summit in Glasgow finally ended with a climate pact with a set of carbon market rules associated to Article 6 of Paris Agreement. At the last stage of the COP-26 negotiation, India backed by China and other major coal-producing nations proposed a revision to change “phased out” into “phased down” of coal use in the documents. Thus, the COP-26 received a variety of responses including disappointment from many nations.

What was the outcome of COP-26 Glasgow and how about Indonesia’s climate commitment? Hear my conversations withKuki Soejachmoen, Co-founder and Executive Director of Indonesia Research Institute for Decarbonization (IRID) and experienced COP negotiator.

Nov 17, 202136:09
EP #64 Key Takeaways from Indonesia's Participation at the G20 Italy

EP #64 Key Takeaways from Indonesia's Participation at the G20 Italy

G20 was concluded last week in Rome, Italy with a 20-page declaration. So many areas covered and agreed in the declaration. This episode covers the priorities and policy stances of Indonesia at the G20 Summit and what does it mean for Indonesia’s G20 Presidency next year. Were there any implications of the China’s Xi Jin Ping and Russia’s Putin absence from the G20 summit?

To talk about this, I am delighted to having Dr. Muhammad Hadianto, Deputy Director at Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs of Indonesia and Advisor to Vice Minister of Trade, also part of the G20 sherpa team who is in charge for the G20 Indonesian Presidency in 2022. Enjoy our conversation!



Nov 10, 202122:42
EP #63 The Political Risks of Vietnam’s Debts to China

EP #63 The Political Risks of Vietnam’s Debts to China

In this episode, I talked to Phuong Vu, a Phd Candidate on Politics at the University of Otago in New Zealand about Vietnam’s debt burden to China and its political risks. An interesting fact, Vietnam has long been suspicious of the BRI and to date no new infrastructure project in Vietnam has been officially labelled as part of the BRI in the public domain. Why is it so?Against those risks, why does Vietnam continue to seek funding from China? Enjoy the conversation!

Oct 14, 202127:42
EP #62 Rodrigo Duterte at the UNGA and Philippines’ Foreign Policy

EP #62 Rodrigo Duterte at the UNGA and Philippines’ Foreign Policy

In this episode, I talked to Mong Palatino, an activist, blogger and politician from the Philippines. Mong served for two terms in the House of Representatives in the Philippines representing the youth sector. Mong is also a regular blogger and Global Voices regional editor for Southeast Asia and Oceania also an active contributor for the Diplomat.
We discussed aboutRodrigo Duterte’s recent speech at the UN General Assembly. Mong argued that Duterte is failed to walk the talk and been very hypocritical on several issues like climate change and drug wars. Lastly, we explored his plan to exit politics and Duterte’s foreign policy legacies he left for the country. Enjoy our conversation!
Oct 04, 202120:30
EP #61 Japan’s New Prime Minister Fumio Kishida's Foreign Policy Outlook

EP #61 Japan’s New Prime Minister Fumio Kishida's Foreign Policy Outlook

Fumio Kishida has won a race to lead Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), putting him on course to become the next prime minister. He won against the high-profile Minister Taro Kono and also Sanae Takaichi. Mr Kishida will succeed Yoshihide Suga, who decided to step down after just one year in office. In this episode, I talked with Professor Kotaro Tamura, Former Senator and Parliamentary Secretary of cabinet office in charge of economic and fiscal policy, who played a key role in elaborating Abenomics during Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's first administration. He is also an adjunct professor at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at National University of Singapore; Chairman of Japan Strategic Initiative and Asia fellow at the Milken Institute on Kishida’s foreign policy outlook.

We discussed Japan’s future US- China policy and Korean Peninsula affairs under Kishida administration. Political expert, Takao Toshikawa, editor of the political newsletter Tokyo Inside line labelled Kishida as Mr status quo, I asked Prof. Kotaro whether he agrees on this label. At the end of our talk, we conversed on the outlook of ASEAN-Japan relationships. Enjoy the episode!

Oct 04, 202120:05
EP #60 Discussing China's Bid to Join the CPTPP

EP #60 Discussing China's Bid to Join the CPTPP

China has submitted a formal letter of application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership or CPTPP. I asked Dr. Deborah Elms, the Founder and Executive Director of the Asian Trade Centre and Vice Chair of the Asia Business Trade Association (ABTA) on the possibility of current members of the CPTPP agree to allow China joining the group. I also discussed with her about the most rationale objectives behind China’s application to join the CPTPP from Beijing’s perspective and whether it would trigger the U.S. under Biden’s presidency to take a deeper look at CPTPP again. Enjoy the talk!

Sep 28, 202116:53
EP #59 AUKUS Security Pact: How should Indonesia respond?

EP #59 AUKUS Security Pact: How should Indonesia respond?

I spoke to Mutti Anggitta, a security analyst and nuclear specialist at the Laboratorium Indonesia 2045 on AUKUS and Indonesia’s position towards the security pact. We explored from the strategic views on Indonesia’s readiness to this possible security risk and the ideal stance Indonesia must have in the middle of intensifying China-Western allies military tension. Enjoy the conversation!

Sep 28, 202119:14
EP #58 Will AUKUS create a strategic insecurity in the region?

EP #58 Will AUKUS create a strategic insecurity in the region?

In this episode, I spoke to Natalie Sambhi, the Founder and Executive Director of Verve Research, and Non-Resident Fellow at Brookings. We talked about the most concerning aspects of the AUKUS as a security deal to Jakarta and the possible implication of AUKUS such as a more intense “strategic insecurity” with countries in the region, particularly with China.

Are we going to see China retaliate with the improvements of its military capability? Will AUKUS bother Canberra’s desire to expand its regional outreach, particularly in elevating its defence engagement and relationships with regional partners including ASEAN countries? I explore those questions with her. Check it out!

Sep 23, 202115:55
EP #57 AUKUS Security Alliance, What Are Its Implications?

EP #57 AUKUS Security Alliance, What Are Its Implications?

In this episode, I was speaking with Dr. Barbara Yoxon, Lecturer in International Politics at the Lancaster University on the recent AUKUS security alliance between the United States, United Kingdom and Australia. what are the key objectives of this AUKUS? And why does the pact provides the nuclear-powered submarines to Australia?Will it create more intense“security dilemma”, particularly with China?What would be the implications of AUKUS at the end geopolitically? I explored those questions with her. Check it out!

Sep 20, 202122:50
EP#56 The Role of Social Media on Indonesia's Foreign Policy

EP#56 The Role of Social Media on Indonesia's Foreign Policy

I discussed with Aristyo Rizka Darmawan, a Lecturer of International Law at the University of Indonesia. He just wrote an article on the role of social media on Indonesia’s foreign policy. I asked him about that article, particularly on the impact of democratization in Indonesia to its foreign policy, the importance of public awareness on foreign policy and the possible negative consequences of social media discourse to Indonesia’s foreign policy. Moreover, I explored with him whether Indonesian leaders have used social media effectively, at least to provide a better explanation of its foreign policy. I talked to Aristyo if ever public’s voices being heard by the Indonesian government through social media.
Sep 07, 202127:36
EP #55 Indonesia, China and the Belt and Road Initiatives (BRI)

EP #55 Indonesia, China and the Belt and Road Initiatives (BRI)

In this episode, I conversed with Dr. Siwage Dharma Negara, the Senior Fellow and Co-coordinator of Indonesia Studies Programme at ISEAS Yusof Ishak Institute. We discussed how has the COVID-19 pandemic affects Indonesia-China relationships. Apart from that, we deeply talked about Belt and Road Initiatives (BRI) cooperation and how does President Jokowi and his administration deal with the straining rivalry between China and the United States.

Sep 02, 202131:45
EP #54 Assessing the Southeast Asia-China Relationship

EP #54 Assessing the Southeast Asia-China Relationship

In this episode, I talked to Sebastian Strangio, Southeast Asia editor of The Diplomat and author of “In the Dragon’s Shadow: Southeast Asia in the Chinese Century” book. We were trying to assess the Southeast Asia-China relationship by linking the COVID-19 pandemic with the current behaviors of ASEAN states towards China. Some questions raised during the interview such as whether Sebastian see any cautiousness felt by Southeast Asian leaders to the rising China’s influence in the region and also which countries, he thinks is the best in addressing the Beijing-Washington rivalry.

At the end of our conversation, I asked his thoughts on Indonesia’s stance in engaging China and how will Jakarta-Beijing move forward in the nearer future under the Jokowi’s administration. Moreover, I was a bit naughty and asked him whether China has brought any negative influences to Southeast Asia’s democracies.

Aug 23, 202127:48
EP #53 Youth Contribution to the G20 Summit - Y20 Indonesia Delegation

EP #53 Youth Contribution to the G20 Summit - Y20 Indonesia Delegation

In this episode, I talked to three Indonesian delegation to the Y20 (Youth 20) Summit Italy 2021. They are Angelo Wijaya, Consultant at World Bank, Caroline Dea, a Lecturer at University of Sam Ratulangi and Co-founder of Sulut Semangat and Puteri Anetta Komarudin, a member of the People's Representative Council (DPR). They are part of the Indonesian Youth Diplomacy (IYD).
We explored their participation at the Y20 Meeting in Italy and issues they were representing. Additionally, we discussed whether political division among G20 members present at the youth meeting and how much confident their voices being heard by the G20 leaders. More importantly, they shared to me the behind process of making recommendations and how would they move the results of Y20 Italy forward domestically.
Aug 10, 202136:29
EP #52 A Perspective of Youth on the Indonesia- United Kingdom Partnership

EP #52 A Perspective of Youth on the Indonesia- United Kingdom Partnership

Happy to talk with Nadhila Renaldi, a graduate from London School of Economics and Political Science and Chevening Scholar who is keen to share her views on the current Indonesia- United Kingdom cooperation. Apart from that, she was sharing the benefits of studying in the United Kingdom university or academic institution. Nadhila with the Indonesian Students Association in the UK supported by the Indonesian Embassy in London and British Embassy in Jakarta will be convening an event called "Think Lab", what is it and how does it may influence the future engagement of both countries? Check out this episode :)
Aug 07, 202121:15
EP #51 ASEAN in the Middle of Beijing and Washington Rivalry

EP #51 ASEAN in the Middle of Beijing and Washington Rivalry

As the strategic contest between China and the United States remain influencing the state of geopolitical dynamic, many region is affected including Southeast Asia. Scholars argue that ASEAN will be the ultimate “winner” not Washington and not Beijing—as ASEAN states will apply “strategic hedging,” with a non-alignment position. Yet, some other authors view that ASEAN states have been trapped in the influence competition between two major powers.

Let’s get the views of Dr. Benjamin Ho, the Assistant Professor and Deputy Coordinator of International Relations Programme at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) in Singapore about the position of ASEAN in the middle of Bejing and Washington Rivalry. Find out also his thoughts on Indonesia's foreign policy towards the major power rivalry.

Jul 22, 202128:18
EP #50 Has the United States Truly Come Back? #G7Summit #PutinBidenSummit

EP #50 Has the United States Truly Come Back? #G7Summit #PutinBidenSummit

Recently, our world is seeing two critical summits, the G7 Summit hosted by Cornwall in the United Kingdom and Putin-Biden Summit in Geneva. Talking about the G7 Summit, what does the G7 Summit mean to world diplomacy? Is it simply the sign of G7 forum resilience or, more than that, a renewed commitment of democratic nations to reinvigorate the liberal world order? What are the major threats perceived by the G7 countries today? Are we seeing any strategy of the G7 countries in facing China’s growing political and economic influence? Moreover, from the Putin-Biden Summit, will we see a significant difference in the future Russia-U.S. relationship? 

President Biden was very loudly and proudly stated that America is Back! He affirmed this commitment by convening some influential leaders’ meetings among the US global friends and alliance since he sits in the White House. Has the United States truly come back? 

I discussed those questions with Prof. David Dunn, Professor in International Politics at the Department of Political Science and International Studies in the University of Birmingham, United Kingdom


Jun 22, 202131:31
EP #49 Indonesia's Foreign Policy After the COVID-19 Pandemic

EP #49 Indonesia's Foreign Policy After the COVID-19 Pandemic

I interviewed Dr. Siswo Pramono, Director General/Head of the Policy Analysis and Development  Agency (PADA) at the Indonesia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA). to discuss the impacts of the global COVID-19 crisis on Indonesia’s foreign policy.  As the centre for the gravity of geopolitics and the geopolitical map has been shifted to Asia, also accelerated by this pandemic, Indonesia needs to gain the benefits of the shifting. Amidst the straining geopolitical contest among major powers and the COVID-19 pandemic, China appeared with a narrative of being a global leader in fighting the pandemic with its vaccine diplomacy and rising political influences. Is Indonesia pulled to China’s COVID-19 influence?

We were talking about one of Indonesia’s foreign policy priorities, economic diplomacy. I see a changing focus of Indonesia’s foreign economic policy from the first term of President Jokowi’s administration to the second term. The first term was very much associating Indonesia’s economic diplomacy with its maritime fulcrum goals. However, in the second term, primarily driven to have more investment and trade partnerships, have there been any changes in Indonesia’s economic diplomacy direction? What are the main challenges for Indonesia’s economic diplomacy at the post-pandemic time?

Jun 19, 202138:41
EP #48 Assessing Indonesia’s Economic Diplomacy under President Jokowi’s administration

EP #48 Assessing Indonesia’s Economic Diplomacy under President Jokowi’s administration

In this episode, I talked to Rocky Intan, a Researcher at the Department of International Relations at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Jakarta. We discussed about one of Indonesia’s foreign policy priorities, economic diplomacy. Rocky wrote in 2019 that Indonesia needs to recalibrate its conception of economic diplomacy, does he still think the same way?

Moreover, what President Jokowi instructed to Indonesia’s envoys are most likely referred to as commercial diplomacy than economic diplomacy. What is the difference? President Jokowi’s administration is also often associated with protectionism policy with many domestic considerations and narratives like “stand on its own feet”, “hate foreign products”, etc. Is Indonesia trapped in a paradox between liberalising its markets to foreign partners and protecting domestic products? What are the main challenges for Indonesia’s economic diplomacy so far?

I explored those questions during this podcast interview. Check it out on Spotify, Google Podcast and Apple Podcast.

Jun 11, 202133:58
EP #47 Myanmar Coup: What is Happening Now and What is Next?

EP #47 Myanmar Coup: What is Happening Now and What is Next?

In this episode, I am speaking to Kyaw Zaw Lin, the President of UNITE 30 Myanmar who is now based in Yangon. He shared to me the realistic situation in Myanmar and his honest views on the chance of protestors to overthrow the military junta. As Southeast Asian nations are set to discuss Myanmar's governance crisis at a summit in Jakarta on Saturday 24 April, Lin stated his hopes to the regional intervention despite ASEAN's principles of consensus and noninterference.
Apr 21, 202134:41