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Girl Get A Real Job

Girl Get A Real Job

By Sara Karpanen

Girl Get A Real Job is a podcast by Women of the Wick founder Sara Kärpänen on the mission to reduce the current pay gap in the creative industries, normalise conversations about money and challenge the suffering artist syndrome.

In this space, we talk about pricing our work, getting paid, doing our taxes, investing and earning; the things we were not taught in school. This series is dedicated to all founders, entrepreneurs and freelancers who are serious about equality and equity. It's time to start talking about the real worth of our creative work!
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DJ AfroMuza on How to Make A Career Switch to the Arts (and Still Pay Your Bills.)

Girl Get A Real JobFeb 28, 2021

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Pursuit of Pleasure - Live Panel

Pursuit of Pleasure - Live Panel

Join us for the 'Pursuit of Pleasure' live panel talk, recorded at Shoreditch Modern gallery on 2 May.

This conversations dives deep into the theme of pleasure and redefines female seuxality through a myriad of personal experiences as artists, entrepreneurs, spiritual beings, women and queer identifiying folk in playful, raw, and poetic ways. 


Talk host: Sara Kärpänen
Speakers: Adele Brydges, Olivia Strange and Catrine Håland

May 13, 202428:31
She's The Business - On Art, Entrepreneurship and Running a Creative Business

She's The Business - On Art, Entrepreneurship and Running a Creative Business

Three inspiring creatives share their journeys and learnings about entrepreneurship in this honest panel talk hosted by Sara Kärpänen, the founder of Women of the Wick media and host of Girl Get A Real Job podcast.

The episode is packed with nuggets of wisdom and personal learnings from the field of art, design, and fashion, recorded at ⁠⁠the London Made Me⁠⁠ pop-up shop on Carnaby Street in December 2023.

⁠The London Made Me⁠ shop is powered by Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London as part of his flagship Creative Enterprise Zone programme.


Meet our talented speakers:


Joke Amusan is a German-Nigerian textile artist based in London. Her art practice highlights the experiences and complex beauty of what it means to be a Black woman – through the exploration of identity and heritage.

Asya Ter-Hovakimyan is a womenswear designer and the co-founder of sustainable fashion brand Omniss. The Hackney Wick based brand was set in 2021 and has already been featured in the likes of Forbes and Drapes.

Madelyn Dransfield is an Australian born, London-based award-winning interior designer and the co-founder of Happy Place Design, an elegant furniture design brand. Madelyn is passionate about thoughtful, innovative and accessible design.


The London Made Me project is delivered in partnership Creative United UK, Alice Mayor and media partner Visit London.


Shop design and creative direction by the talented Jo Armitage and business training by the powerhouse known as Laura Mulhern from Plan Make Do. 

Dec 18, 202335:32
Dr. Sarah Welsh on Her Journey from Medicine to Sex Tech Entrepreneur

Dr. Sarah Welsh on Her Journey from Medicine to Sex Tech Entrepreneur

Join us for an honest conversation with Dr. Sarah Welsh, the co-founder of HANX, as she unveils the journey behind building a pioneering sex-tech brand from the ground up.

Sarah walks us through the journey how she and her co-founder, Farah Kabir, an ex-investment banker, tackled the unique challenges of raising investment in a predominantly male-dominated industry.

The episode dives into the rollercoaster of emotions as they faced pushback and stigmas associated with their sexual wellness products designed by and for women, insights of the competitive world of retail and assembling a formidable team.

Tune in to this unfiltered discussion and share your thoughts with us. It's a story of resilience, innovation, and the pursuit of empowerment that you won't want to miss!

Pssst. Use code REALJOB20 to get 20% off HANX 3 and 10 Packs of ultra-thin, sensitive Condoms, gentle Lubricant and Libido Lift desire supplement. 

Oct 22, 202333:45
Emma Zeck on Speaking Your Unfiltered Truth & Empowering Women to Reclaim their Voice
Jun 19, 202344:03
Real Talk About Mental Health

Real Talk About Mental Health

Sara talks about mental health candidly and openly and invites the listener for a grounding meditation in this short solo episode.
May 18, 202332:30
Female Founded - Celebrating Sustainable Leaders panel talk

Female Founded - Celebrating Sustainable Leaders panel talk

How to create a sustainable business brand from scratch and become your own boss?

More women than ever are starting new businesses; however, only 1 in 3 UK entrepreneurs is still female. Women of the Wick and The Trampery bring together a group of East London-based sustainable business owners for a panel discussion.

Whilst celebrating the achievements of the female founders, the discussion draws the focus on the current gender gap and how to change the narrative in the fashion and creative industry.


🎙 Panel host


Sara Kärpänen is a gender equality-focused author, public speaker and the founder of ⁠Women of the Wick⁠ , democratising the media spaces and elevating the voices of women and non-binary creatives locally and globally. Sara is also the host of Girl Get A Real Job podcast and the Editor in Chief of WOWZINE bi-annual print magazine.


✨ Speakers ✨

Genia Mineeva is the Founder of BEEN London, named ‘one of the most innovative fashion companies in the world’ by British VOGUE. A sustainable accessories brand, BEEN London is on a mission to change the way we view waste. All products are handcrafted in London entirely from materials that would otherwise end up in a landfill. Genia is an assessor for the Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership and a guest lecturer in sustainable materials innovation.

Lydia Bolton is a slow fashion designer and sustainability creator whose designs are created using entirely deadstock and unwanted textiles. Lydia founded her namesake brand Lydia Bolton in 2019, feeling a responsibility to show how fashion could be enjoyed in a way that didn’t harm the environment. Lydia has since become a lauded sustainably-minded designer and Creator backed by WGSN, British Vogue, The Face, Refinery29 and more.

Piarvé Wetshi is an advocate for reducing textile waste in the fashion industry and a co-founder of the fashion collective and agency Colèchi and fabric resale platform Last Yarn. Her background is in digital marketing across interior design and events. Piarvé also works with local groups and cultural venues to bridge the gap between fashion and education.

Graysha Audren is a textile designer and founder of Weffan, a 3D woven clothing production company. Weffan is focused on redesigning outdated fashion manufacturing models and unsustainable supply chains using 3D woven garment technology to lower waste and the fashion industry’s carbon footprint. Through Weffan, Graysha integrates systems design, zero waste research, and textile innovation to future-proof the fashion industry for the 22nd century.

Chantelle Anonuevo is a social enterpreneur and the founder of RE-US London, a sustainable social fashion platform that curates London's creative voices of the future using a sustainable and ethical foundation - from the fabrics, manufacturing and longevity in fashion to amplify the artistic voice for change, without compromising the environment.


Mar 28, 202301:04:48
DJ and Radio Presenter Heléna Star on Finding Her Career Calling & Doing What She Loves for Living.

DJ and Radio Presenter Heléna Star on Finding Her Career Calling & Doing What She Loves for Living.

"Techno is black and we should be celebrating and recognising its roots. It's very important to me."

East London-based Heléna Star is one of the most exciting new DJ’s and Radio Presenters in the UK. Helena discovered her passion for music at a young age and started DJing at the age of 16.

Girl Get A Real Job host Sara Kärpänen sat down with the DJ during the Flow Festival 2022 in Helsinki and chatted about the gender inequality in the DJ industry, her entrepreneurial mindset as a musician, the roots of dance and techno music, and more. Tune in and leave a review!

Aug 22, 202231:57
The Future is Freelance: How to Build Financial Resilience as a Self-Employed Creative (Panel Talk)
Jul 18, 202259:47
Selina Flavius on Financial Coaching & How to Start Managing your Money as a Creative.

Selina Flavius on Financial Coaching & How to Start Managing your Money as a Creative.

In today's episode, Sara talks with Selina Flavius who is the author of the book Black Girl Finance: Let's Talk Money and the founder of the financial coaching company Black Girl Finance. She also hosts a weekly podcast of the same name and is a creator of the Black Girl Finance Festival. 

Along with her own journey to becoming an author and financial expert, Selina shares her tips and views on how creative entrepreneurs and artists can start creating better money habits and work toward financial stability.

Jun 13, 202240:49
Sarah Akwisombe on Creative Work & What She's Learned About Manifesting Money.

Sarah Akwisombe on Creative Work & What She's Learned About Manifesting Money.

Sarah Akwisombe is the Sunday Times Bestselling author of the book The Money Is Coming: Your Guide to Manifesting More Money, and the founder of No Bull Business School and streetwear brand Not That Deep. Sarah is also a mother, influencer, music maker, and creative and is followed by tens of thousands of people on Instagram. We sat down to talk about all things money, entrepreneurship, the British approach to finances, artistic reinvention, freelance pricing, and much more. Tune in! Host: Sara Kärpänen by the feminist media Women of the Wick 
May 09, 202255:57
Herstory - The Panel Talk

Herstory - The Panel Talk

Herstory: history considered or presented from a feminist viewpoint or with special attention to the experience of women.

During this Women's History Month panel discussion hosted by writer and Women of the Wick founder Sara Kärpänen and the three guests - printmaker activist Aida Wilde, coach and movement practitioner Sunita Kaur and photographer-curator Paige Davey, talk about their journeys in becoming the artists and women they are today. 

Who has helped them along the way? What does it take to choose your path? How do you achieve financial freedom, and what does it mean for people working in the creative industry? This, and many other questions were answered. Tune in!


Mar 29, 202255:49
Reimagining Creative Work: Thriving as a Freelancer Post-Pandemic

Reimagining Creative Work: Thriving as a Freelancer Post-Pandemic

It’s our final episode of the 1st Season! Join us to listen to our panel discussion Reimagining Creative Work, delivered in partnership with the Creative Enterprise Zone and Echo. The session was live-recorded at Bar90 in Hackney Wick. 

Host: Sara Kärpänen, Host of Girl Get A Real Job & Founder of Women of the Wick

Panelists:

💫 Adelaide Lumor is a DJ, Cultural Curator, Director BORN'BREAD and Community Manager at the Good Growth Hub

💫Simone Lezzi, is a photographer, Director Camera Work London and Cre8 Studio in Hackney Wick

💫Emily Hana is a visual artist and printmaker with a residency at Hackney Wick Underground

💫 Natalya Moosa is an Artist, DJ, Activist and Founder of The Organic Afro helping Black people embrace their natural hair and natural selves.

Aug 15, 202101:02:09
Book Editor Kaiya Shang on Inequality in the Publishing Industry & How to Get Your Work Published.

Book Editor Kaiya Shang on Inequality in the Publishing Industry & How to Get Your Work Published.

Kaiya is an editor at Scribner UK and she has worked in the publishing industry since 2012. Kaiya is also writing her first novel on ghosts, gentrification, East London, art and nostalgia. We talked about inequality and the financial landscape in the publishing industry based on Kaiya's experience and how to get your first book published! 

Jun 13, 202135:20
Isabel Sachs on Failure & How NOT to Take Rejection Personally.

Isabel Sachs on Failure & How NOT to Take Rejection Personally.

Sara Kärpänen had a laugh-filled and incredibly honest chat about the notion of failure and success with Isabel Sachs, a creative producer, public speaker & podcast host and the founder of I LIKE NETWORKING. Isabel founded the award-winning mentoring platform after she was made redundant due to the global pandemic. Within a year the platform has gained a massive momentum and been mentioned to New York Times, Stylist, Courier, and more.

Review the episode, share it with a friend and subscribe to our YouTube channel!

Girl, Get A Real Job podcast is a space where we challenge the suffering artist syndrome and talk about the highs and lows of being a freelancer and a creative practitioner today. The podcast is hosted by writer and multidisciplinary artist Sara Kärpänen.


May 17, 202156:05
Banner Maker Alice Gabb on Pricing Her Work & The Problem with the Girl Boss Culture.

Banner Maker Alice Gabb on Pricing Her Work & The Problem with the Girl Boss Culture.

What does it mean to have enough? Can we get rich ethically? How to price our work? 

In this week's episode, Sara sat down with Alice Gabb, a lettering designer, activist and banner maker based in East London. We had an honest talk on Alice's entrepreneurial journey, the importance of pricing and valuing our work as full-time artists, and the problems of "Girl Boss" culture.

"People are really curious if I do this as a full-time job. I get that all the time. We've been taught a certain path. Often when I walk to the studio, I just think how lucky I am."

"The struggling artist works for some people, but those people are exceptional. Eventually, when I was able to earn more money, I wanted to make sure that everyone else learned what I had learned. If I don't charge enough for my banners, why am I doing it? You are not helping your community or your industry if you price your work too low. We have a responsibility as artists."

If you enjoyed the episode, please review it and share it with someone who might benefit from it too. To continue the conversation, head to @girlgetarealjob.

Apr 27, 202138:29
Co-founder, Davina Rajoopillai—From Freelancer to Full-Time Entrepreneur.

Co-founder, Davina Rajoopillai—From Freelancer to Full-Time Entrepreneur.

Davina Rajoopillai is the Executive Producer and Co-founder and a creatively driven video production studio called BADLANDS. She's fiercely passionate about creating an equal and inclusive world, which she's done successfully as part of her consultation work in the creative and advertising industry.
In Episode 6 at Girl, Get A Real Job, Sara sat down with Davina to ask her advice on switching careers from freelancing to being your own boss, and what it takes. We also talked about our fears, failures, and future plans, among many other things. This episode is guaranteed to put a smile on your face and leave with a handful of helpful tips to navigate the entrepreneurial world!
If you like the episode, please review it on Apple Podcasts and share it with a friend. You can continue the conversation on Instagram at @girlgetarealjob.
Apr 11, 202134:12
Rugmaker Daisy Tortuga on Treating Your Work Like Your Best Friend (& Following Your Intuition.)

Rugmaker Daisy Tortuga on Treating Your Work Like Your Best Friend (& Following Your Intuition.)

“My goal is just to grow as an artist. You have to be brave and intuitively follow what you feel like doing. Your work should feel like your best friend.”

Full-time crafter, rug-based illustrator and musician Daisy Tortuga sat down with Sara Kärpänen to talk all things rugs and music—and how her gap year in the creative community in Hackney Wick changed her life. This is an episode about freedom to be who you are and listen to your intuition to do what you love.

Mar 28, 202131:58
Can Artists Afford to Live in London? With an Illustror Margaux Carpentier.
Mar 20, 202135:17
On Self-confidence, Living Outside the Norm & Claiming the Life We Want.
Mar 08, 202140:58
DJ AfroMuza on How to Make A Career Switch to the Arts (and Still Pay Your Bills.)

DJ AfroMuza on How to Make A Career Switch to the Arts (and Still Pay Your Bills.)

How to make the leap and become a full-time artist? How to value and price your work? Sara Kärpänen sat down with Natalya Moosa, an Artist,  DJ, Activist and Founder of The Organic Afro Community, helping Black people embrace their natural hair and natural selves. We dove deep into some beliefs about creative work and mindset around money as Natalya shared her own experience and what happened to her when she took the leap changed her job as a teacher to a full-time DJ.  Follow us on @girlgetarealjob to continue the conversation!

Feb 28, 202145:08
February 15, 2021

February 15, 2021

Feb 15, 202100:34
Why More Black Women Need To Write Their Personal Stories & How To Raise The Capital For This.

Why More Black Women Need To Write Their Personal Stories & How To Raise The Capital For This.

Welcome to Girl, Get A Real Job Podcast where we normalise money talk among artists and tackle the suffering artist syndrome. 


Our first guest is DamiLola Soyoye, the co-founder and CEO of BuildHer—a crowdfunding platform with a mission to economically empower women and girls from Black backgrounds. The platform has been created specifically for black and brown women due to the injustices we face as well as the unfair playing field making it difficult for black women to succeed.


Find us on Instagram at #girlgetarealjob @girlgetarealjob

Feb 15, 202129:24