Going Rogue

Nottingham was a high concept spec script that reimagined the Robin Hood legend from the perspective of the Sheriff of Nottingham that asked whether we should follow the law, or our heroes. Robin Hood is a movie where Robin Hood does not rob from the rich or give to the poor, but his dad did write the Magna Carta.

This is the story of how Nottingham became Robin Hood.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIPS USED: 

Rise and Rise Again: Making Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood

PODDYWOOD: Cyrus Voris & Ethan Reiff (Part 3)

RUSSELL CROWE Interview for Robin Hood (BlackTree TV)

Russell Crowe Talks Robin Hood (IGN)

Russell Crowe Reunited With His ‘Gladiator’ Horse (The Late Show)

Napoleon (dir. Ridley Scott, 2023)

Robin Hood (dir. Ridley Scott, 2010)

The Castle (dir. Rob Sitch, 1997)

Democracy Manifest 

MUSIC:

“Loopster”, “The Descent”, “Thinking Music”, “Five Armies”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Virtutes Instrumenti”, “Minstrel Guild”, “Stormfront”, “Eternal Terminal”, “Night Vigil”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Volatile Reaction”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Midnight Tale”, “Odyssey”, “Protofunk”, “Raw”, “Morgana Rides”, “The Path of the Goblin King”, “Floating Cities”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Black Vortex”, “Minima”, “Decline”, “Clean Soul”, “Anguish” & “Magic Forest”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Suspended Animation”, "Space Race", "Bossy Boots", "Synapse" & "Through the Woods" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

This is not the first podcast about Don’t Worry Darling.

But this is one of the few that discusses the film, and its transformation from a Black Mirror-esque spec script written by Dick Van Dyke’s grandsons into a beautiful but poorly paced film with a confusing message. And somehow, between those two, there was a solid, compelling script. But it was paired with a directorial intention that was fundamentally opposed to the story, and the film began to unravel from there.

CONTENT WARNING: this episode involves discussion of sexual assault, sexual violence, suicide and misogyny.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIPS:

Don’t Worry Darling (New Line Cinema, 2022)

The Directors Cut Podcast: Don’t Worry Darling with Olivia Wilde and Reed Morano 

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Script to Screen: Booksmart with Katie Silberman (screenwriter)

Olivia Wilde & Katie Silberman: Don’t Worry Darling Q&A With Pete Hammond

MUSIC:

"Slow Burn", "Crinoline Dreams", "The Dread", "In Your Arms", "Thinking Music", "Echoes of Time V2", "Volatile Reaction", "Metaphysik", "Bossa Antigua", "Bleeping Demo", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Night In Venice", "Samba Isobel", "Unseen Horrors", "Lobby Time", "Shadowlands 1: Horizon", "Penumbra", "Leaving Home", "Floating Cities", "Expeditionary", "On The Cool Side", "Walking Along", "Clean Soul", "Vibing Over Venus", "This House", "Sunset Over Glengorm", "Black Vortex", & "Scissors"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In October 2008, Chris Sanders was asked to take over a troublesome film with a March 2010 release date. He immediately called his old co-director Dean Deblois. Somehow, despite everything we've ever discussed on this podcast, the film they made is good.

How To Train Your Dragon is the opposite of almost every film we've covered before - an instant classic that pushed the animation form and made bold calls on a tight deadline, and actually stuck the landing. But to understand how it pulled that off, we need to cover early Dreamworks, renaissance Disney, and a little picture book called The Big Bear Aircraft Company.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIPS:

The Story Room: The Making of Lilo and Stitch

The Making of How To Train Your Dragon: Going Into The Story

Chris Sanders - Director of How to Train Your Dragon + Lilo & Stitch Cartoons!!! (Directing Animation Podcast #39)

Animation Part 3 with Dean Deblois (Team Deakins Podcast Episode 12)

All Star - Smashmouth

Forbidden Friendship - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon)

Coming Back Around - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon)

Fairytale - Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell (Shrek)

Short Hair - Jerry Goldsmith (Mulan)

Your Father Would Be Proud - Michael Giacchino (Rogue One)

A Place in The Sky - Hans Zimmer (The Creator)

MUSIC:

"Bicycle", "Adventures in Adventureland", "Hard Boiled", "Waltz - Tschikovsky Op. 40", "Chill Wave", "Loopster", "Cherry Blossom", "Whimsey Groove", "Odyssey", "Quirky Dog", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Nonstop", "Ascending The Vale", "Enter The Maze", "Tenebrous Bros Carnival - Intermission", "Energizing", "Divertissement", "Leaving Home", "Hall of the Mountain King", "Oppressive Gloom", "Magic Scout - Farmhouse", "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys", "Prelude & Action", "Concentration", "Ever Mindful" & "Tempting Secrets"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Seven years after Rogue One, Gareth Edwards is back with his new film The Creator, an original science fiction blockbuster about robots, AI and true love. The film has been surrounded by breathless reporting of its $86 million budget, the $4000 camera it was shot on and the future of blockbuster filmmaking - but, like most film reporting, the truth is far more complicated than the headlines. And it's oddly fitting for a film about AI to have its human artists so quickly erased.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIPS:

'Rogue One' Director Gareth Edwards Talks Making 'The Creator' On His Own Terms (Cinemablend)

Gareth Edwards Discusses Shooting The Creator on Sony FX3 (San Diego Comic-Con 2023)

The Creator: Gareth's Vision (20th Century Studios)

Glass Onion

Monsters

A Place in The Sky - Hans Zimmer (The Creator)

Cornfield Chase - Hans Zimmer (Interstellar)

MUSIC:

"Ever Mindful", "Lost Froniter", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "Screensaver", "Loopster", "On The Cool Side", "Decisions", "Bicycle", "Beauty Flow", "Crypto" & "New Direction"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog was born from the 2007 Writers Strike as a bold new way to take power back from the studios. Or at least, that’s one version of the story. Another involves a long-gestating podcast project. Yet another involves Jeff Bezos.

A 42 Minute webseries that apparently earned Joss Whedon more money than The Avengers, Dr Horrible was released almost six months after the Writers Strike but is indelibly tied to it. But was it the first of many, or lightning in a bottle?

CONTENT WARNING: Joss Whedon has been accused of abuse, harassment, racism, bullying and gaslighting, by a number of former co-workers and his ex-wife. He denies all suggestions of misconduct.

CLIPS:

Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog

The Making of Dr Horrible's Sing-along Blog

Commentary! The Musical

Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog Panel - Paleyfest 2009

Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog Reunion Panel - SDCC 2018

Kath and Kim (2008) (the bad one)

TV writer David Simon weighs in on the Writers Guild of America strike - NPR’s All Things Considered (19 May 2023)

MUSIC:

“C-Funk”, “Enter The Party”, “Deep Haze”, “Industrious Ferret”, “Fuzzball Parade”, “Odyssey”, “Monkeys Spinning Monkeys”, “Crypto”, “Tech Live”, “Crossing the Divide”, “Study and Relax”, “Thinking Music”, “Cut Trance”, “Walking Along”, “Leaving Home”, “Loopster”, “Floating Cities”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Groove Grove”, “On The Cool Side”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

The South Park episode Canada on Strike first aired in April 2008 - a “biting” “satire” released well after the Writers Strike had left the news cycle, and one of many media pieces that helped cement the legend that the entire strike had been about The Internet. But one of the many issues that the WGA had brought to the table was the very reason that the South Park team were so annoyed with the Guild in the first place - while the Guild were on strike, South Park and most of the animation industry were still working. Because animation writers are not covered by the Writers Guild.

The WGA wanted jurisdiction over animation in their next contract. But that was an even harder ask than Reality TV, since animation writing was already covered by The Animation Guild, or IATSE Local 839.

CLIPS:

Six Days to Air (Comedy Central)

Canada On Strike (South Park Season 12 Episode 4)

Chris Sanders - Director of How to Train Your Dragon + Lilo & Stitch Cartoons!!! (Directing Animation Podcast #39)

WSC Show #109 - Interview With Patric Verrone (Part 1)

Tina Fey Monologue (Saturday Night Live, 24th February 2008)

WGA Calls for Vote To End Writers Strike (Writers Guild of America)

WGA Calls for Vote To End Writers Strike - Q&A (Writers Guild of America)

Why I’m Striking - Patric Verrone (Deadline)

MUSIC:

“Fork & Spoon”, “C-Funk”, “Divertissement”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Modern, Jazz Samba”, “Fuzzball Parade”, “Bicycle”, “Expeditionary”, “Finding Movement”, “On The Cool Side”, “Groove Grove”, “Floating Cities”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Hard Boiled”, “Leaving Home”, “Lost Frontier”, “On The Ground”, “Odyssey”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Crossing The Divide”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2006, more than a year before the Writers Strike, twelve producers of America’s Next Top Model walked off their job to demand a new contract: as Writers protected by the Writers Guild of America. The production company refused to bargain with the WGA, worried it would set a dangerous precedent by giving Reality TV producers higher wages, residuals and writer credits. The WGA, on the other hand, were determined to set that precedent.

The Top Model Strike was a disaster.

Reality TV was one of the most complicated issues during the 07/08 Writers Strike - because while the WGA demanded blanket coverage of Reality TV Writers, the TV Networks denied reality TV even had writers and filled their schedules with non-union reality TV shows to ride out the strike. And while the WGA had failed to unionise Reality TV workers, the Director’s Guild of America had already been moderately successful, and weren’t asking for it in their next contract - making them a much easier group for the studios to negotiate with.

CLIPS:

WSC #31 - The It’s All Written Reality Show Rally (The Writers Strike Chronicles, 7 December 2007)

America’s Next Top Strike: Reality Show Writers (NPR’s All Things Considered, 15 August 2006)

Pencils Down! The 100 Days of the Writers Guild Strike

My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad Promo

Where We Are And Where We’re Going (The Writers Guild of America, 2 June 2023)

MUSIC:

“Hiding Your Reality”, “Chill Wave”, “Wepa”, “Tech Live”, “Maccary Bay”, “Ancient Mystery Waltz Presto”, “Concentration”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Bicycle”, “Enter the Party”, “Nonstop”, “Leaving Home”, “On The Cool Side”, “Ever Mindful”, “Rollin At 5”, “Lost Frontier”, “Avant Jazz”, “Crypto”, “Tenerous Bros Carnival - Intermission” & “Groove Grove”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

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“Bossy Boots”, “VHS Dream” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

"Bad Boys" by Inner Circle

In 2005, Tim Kring took a 5 hour walk with his old friend Jeph Loeb, and pitched him the pilot episode of his new show - Heroes.

Inspired by a structural writing challenge, a desire to see good in ordinary people and Paul Thomas Anderson’s Magnolia, Heroes was one of the biggest new shows of 2006. By the end of 2007, it had all come crashing down. The Writer’s Strike is often held responsible for Heroes’s demise, but as usual, there’s a lot more to the story.

Content Warning: 

Les Moonves is alleged to have sexually assaulted more than a dozen women since the 1980s. Both CBS executives and LAPD police officers were involved in an attempt to cover-up at least one allegation.

CLIPS USED:

Heroes - Tim Kring on Heroes’ Storytelling (Paley Centre 2007)

Jesse’s Office Ep #20 - Crafting Heroes with Tim Kring

Conan O’Brien on Writing “Marge vs the Monorail”

‘The Alternate Ending’ Heroes S2 Interview

Inside the Writers Strike With a WGA Negotiator (The Town)

WSC Show #31 - It’s All Written Reality Show Rally

MUSIC 

“Raw”, “Crypto”, “Bicycle”, “Screen Saver”, “Groove Grove”, “Marty Gots A Plan”, “Simplex”, “Myst on the Moor”, “Lost Frontier”, “Deep Haze”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Loopster”, “Avant Jazz”, “Enter the Maze”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Spy Glass”, “Intrepid”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “On The Cool Side”, “Floating Cities”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Hard Boiled”, "I Knew A Guy," “On The Ground”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2005, an American adaption of a UK cringe-com written by a former Simpsons writer became an unexpected hit on iTunes. So despite middling ratings, the show was given a second season and a second chance.

It went on to become the defining sitcom of a generation, and one of the most streamed series of all time.

Through every early development of online content, The Office was right there, riding the wave of technology and culture trends. And when the Writers Guild of America went on strike in 2007, one of the guild’s biggest battlegrounds was The Internet - and The Office writers were there on the picket lines, fighting for the future they had forged.

CLIPS USED:

The Office is Closed (WGA America)

Greg Daniels - Pt. 1 (The Office Deep Dive)

WGAW President Patric Verrone says writers want fair play (WGA West)

Writers Guild of America Strike Announcement - Nov. 2, 2007. (WGA West)

What We’ve Won in Part Negotiations (WGA West)

THE OFFICE (US)

Pilot (S01 E01)

Boys and Girls (S02 E15)

The Negotiation (S03 E19)

Dinner Party (S04 E13)

THE OFFICE (UK)

Downsize (S01 E01)

MUSIC:

“Feelin Good”, “Bicycle”, “Chill Wave”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “Odyssey”, “Too Cool”,  “Magic Scout - Farm”,  “Hard Boiled”, “Loopster”, “I Knew A Guy”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Twisting”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Protofunk”, “Mining By Moonlight”, “Spy Glass”, “Screen Saver”, “Rollin At 5”, “Thinking Music”, “Wisps of Whorls” & “Crypto” 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots" & "VHS Dreams" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Anti- Piracy Music - Melchior Rietveldt (which was never officially licensed for those anti-piracy ads)

In 2005, Daniel Craig was announced as the new James Bond. On the same day, producer Michael G Wilson mentioned that work had already started on Craig's second Bond film.

That film would eventually become Quantum of Solace. And it would be remembered less as a film and more as a casualty of the 2007 Writers Strike.  But how much did the strike really affect Quantum of Solace?

Striking Out is a new series of Going Rogue about the 07/08 Writers Guild of America strike, exploring the issues of the strike by looking at the films and TV shows affected by it. 

CONTENT WARNING:

In 2023 Paul Haggis lost a civil court case and was ordered to pay $7.5million to a woman who accused him of assault. Four other woman testified during the court case. Haggis denies the accusations.

CLIPS USED:

Casino Royale (2006)

Quantum of Solace (2008)

Marc Forster, “Quantum of Solace”: Meet the Filmmaker

Roberto Schafer - Cinematographer (Team Deakins Podcast)

WSC Show #109 - Interview With Patric Verrone (Part 1)

New James Bond

Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TEDxCoconut Grove

Quantum of Solace: THR Behind the Scenes

MUSIC

“Industrial Cinematic”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Chill Wave”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “FIX HERE”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Rollin At 5”, “Thinking Music”, “Enter the Maze”, “Crypto”, “Clash Defiant”, “Groove Grove”, “Enter The Maze”, “Prelude And Action”, “Hitman”, “Bicycle”, “Screen Saver”, “Nonstop”, “Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “Satiate Percussion”, “Magic Forest”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission” & “Bleeping Demo” 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2007, The Writers Guild of America went on strike. In 2023, they might do it again.

So this is season three of Going Rogue: Striking Out.

Striking Out starts on May 7th, with weekly episodes.

This is basically the same promo as the one at the end of Going Solo but now it has a date attached.

For smart threads and dumb memes, follow the show on twitter @GoingRogue_Pod

For a daily update on the various ways Tansy is losing her mind thanks to pop culture and capitalism, follow @TansyClipboard

MUSIC:

"Bleeping Demo" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Bossy Boots by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Crank That Soulja Boy - Soulja Boy

On a dark summer night on the set of American Graffiti, Ron Howard asked George Lucas what film he wanted to do next. Lucas was shy with details, but he said it was sort of a Buck Rogers film with Stanley Kubrick special effects, but really, really fast.

Both Howard and Lucas would go onto wildly successful directorial careers, but while George Lucas was stuck in a galaxy far far away, Howard became a journeyman, directing all styles, genres and budgets. When Solo: A Star Wars Story needed a steady pair of hands to take over and get the now director-less film onto screens in just 11 months, Howard was one of the few directors with the experience, technical skill and clout to pull it off.

Howard’s version of Solo was always going to be a compromise. But by picture lock, very little of anyone’s vision remained. Join us for the breakneck conclusion of Going Solo.

You can follow the show on Twitter @goingrogue_pod or, if you want a lot of tweets about Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, you can follow Tansy @tansyclipboard

CLIPS:

Ron Howard Gets A New ‘Solo’ Trailer for May the 4th - The Late Show With Stephen Colbert

Sunday Sit-down with Willie Geist - Ron Howard

Arrested Development

How Did Ron Howard Direct Solo: A Star Wars Story after joining the project so late? (via Entertainment.ie)

The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines and More

Peter Serafinowicz on Collider Live

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Solo: A Star Wars Story Deleted Scenes

Happy Sad Confused: Ron Howard Vol. II

MUSIC:

“Whiskey On The Mississippi”, “Adventures in Adventureland”, “Hot Pursuit”, “Smoking Gun”, “Bicycle”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Anamalie”, “Lost Time”, “Nonstop”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Simplex”, “Neo Western”, “Enter The Maze”, “Floating Cities”, “Rising”, “River of Io”, “Space Jazz”, “Groove Grove”, “Crypto”, “Ever Mindful”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Man Down”, “Night Vigil”, “Cut Trance”, “Chill Wave”, “Bleeping Demo”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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"Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

"Jake Lonergan" by Harry Gregson-Williams (Cowboys and Aliens)

“Willow’s Theme” by James Horner (Willow)

Cat noises provided by Sabrina

In October 2012, Lawrence Kasdan was asked if he wanted to write another Star Wars film. 

He didn't. But when he went to turn down George Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy in person, someone mentioned they also wanted to make a Han Solo movie. 

Five and a half years later, Solo: A Star Wars Story became the first ever Star Wars box office bomb. You think you know what happened, but exactly how Solo went off the rails is a much more complicated, nuanced and unhinged tale than you might have imagined. This isn't the story of a film going wrong - it's the story of one that could never have gone right. 

And it starts, and in some ways ends, with Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan's script.

CLIPS:

On Story 1011: A Conversation With Lawrence Kasdan

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Original Star Wars Audition Tapes

Solo: A Star Wars Story Sound Bites (Lucasfilm Press Pack)

The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines, Plus A New TV Spot

Springsteen on Broadway (Netflix)

MUSIC:

"Western Streets", "Bicycle", "Hot Pursuit", "Bleeping Demo", "Neo Western", "Sax Rock And Roll, "Rollin At 5", "Odyssey", "Slow Burn", "Deep Haze", "Screen Saver", "Intrepid", "Floating Cities", "Black Vortex", "Crowd Hammer", "Hiding Your Reality", "Mystery Sax", 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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"Synapse" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In December 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was released into the world. With six weeks of reshoots, a painfully short edit, an unexpected election and a new composer after the first one dropped out due to "scheduling issues", the film was finally finished - the day before its premiere. But was it successful? And more importantly, was it political?

In this final episode of Going Rogue, we look at Rogue One's release, and legacy, and the new life it's about to take in Andor.

Rogue One has now fascinated and captivated me for longer than every person who worked on it (expect John Knoll) - but why? What is it the film that haunts my every waking hour? I saw it in IMAX yesterday and I finally clocked Tony Gilroy's cameo. Did you know Tony Gilroy has a cameo in Rogue One? It's just his voice but he's the Rebel traffic controller who asks for their callsign and when Bodhi's like "... Rogue One?" it's Gilroy who says "Rogue One? There is no Rogue One?!" and honestly what a choice to make for the cameo. Gareth Edwards launches the Tantive V and saves the rebellion. Gilroy says "There is no Rogue One".

What a choice.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

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CLIPS:

 - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

 - Moving On (Michael Giacchino, Lost)

 - Your Father Would Be Proud (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)

 - Star Wars Main Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope)

 - Rey's Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode VI: The Force Awakens)

 - The Clone Wars Main Theme (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)

 - Ahsoka Leaves (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)

 - Trials of the Darksabre (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: Rebels)

 - Reminiscence Therapy (John Powell, Solo: A Star Wars Story)

 - A Long Ride Ahead (Alternate Ending) (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Soundtrack Expanded Edition)

 - The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller

 - The Filmumentaries Podcast: 35 - Colin Goudie - Editor of Monsters and Rogue One

MUSIC:

"Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Bicycle", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Screen Saver", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "Black Vortex", "Floating Cities", "Ever Mindful", "Wisp of Whorls" & "Concentration"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation", "Proxima Centuri" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2001, The Bourne Identity went through four rounds of reshoots, after going massively over budget and over schedule. The final product, partly directed and potentially edited by producer Frank Marshall instead of director Doug Liman, was a hit. Liman wasn't invited back for the sequel, but writer Tony Gilroy was.

In 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story went through six weeks of reshoots and a massive, post-directors cut re-edit, under the guidance of Tony Gilroy - initially as a writer, and later as a lot more. Lucasfilm would essentially bury his role during the film's promotion, but thanks to the Writers Guild of America, Gilroy got a screenplay credit. To do so, he essentially had to remake Rogue One.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIPS:

The Bourne Identity Access Granted: Screenwriter Tony Gilroy

Get Out Original Ending with Director Jordan Peele's Commentary

Happy Sad Confused: Chris Weitz

The Moment with Brian Koppelman: Tony Gilroy (2018)

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

MUSIC:

"Industrial Cinematic", "Hitman", "Black Vortex",  "Hero Down", "Concentration", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "The Complex", "Scissors", "Screensaver", "Peace of Mind", "Floating Cities", "Stay the Course", "Anguish", "Prelude & Action", "Lost Frontier", "Wisps of Whorls", "On the Shore" & "Rynos Theme"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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"Suspended Animation" & "The Paladin's Underworld" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2013, Gareth Edwards pretended he was going to get lunch, and instead went to a meeting with Kiri Hart at Lucasfilm. He was one of a handful of promising young directors who'd been handpicked to direct a new Star Wars film, off the strength of his low-budget debut Monsters. Edwards was offered Destroyer of Worlds, originally pitched by VFX legend and Edwards's personal hero, John Knoll. 

Gary Whitta went into his meeting at Lucasfilm surprised to be considered for a film project at all, but his ideas hit the right note, naming basically every major influence Knoll had listed in his pitch. Whitta would write the first draft and come up with the film's title, Rogue One, before being replaced by Chris Weitz, Oscar nominated writer and noted Boba Fett hater.

In the middle of all of this was Colin Goudie, an editor hired twelve months before Rogue One even started shooting, tasked with making the film out of other films.

Welcome to the messy, contradictory world of Rogue One's script.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

CLIP SOURCES:

 - The Sci Fi Talks Podcast

 - The Rule of Two

 - The Filumentarians

 - The Director's Cut

 - IGN's  WFH Rogue One Livestream

MUSIC:

"Bleeping Demo", "Hiding Your Reality", "Concentration", "Dreamcatcher", "Industrial Cinematic", "Stormfront", "Rynos Theme", "Ever Mindful", "Envision", "Anguish", "Twisting", "Lost Frontier", "Prelude & Action", "Stay the Course" & "Magic Scout"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

"Suspended Animation", "Void Glider" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2003, John Knoll heard a rumour on the set of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. It sparked a chain of events that would span two decades, several films and one massive corporate takeover, and would finally result in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

This is the story of Rogue One, told by someone who has spent more time thinking about the film than anyone who worked on it (except John Knoll). Each episode of Going Rogue covers a different phase of the film's life and the different lives it lived, from TV episode to low budget war movie to $200million franchise blockbuster. 

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email goingroguetansy@gmail.com

MUSIC:

"Hiding Your Reality", "Floating Cities", "Industrial Cinematic", "Phantom from Space", "Hitman", "Late Night Radio", "Screen Saver", "Odyssey", Sincerely", "Dreaming Flashback" & "Lithium" 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

"Suspended Animation" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com