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Guerrilla Pastors

Guerrilla Pastors

By Josiah Jones

The "Guerrilla Pastors" is a podcast chronicling young ministers shifting from "traditional" church ministry to a subversive pastoral presence. Instead of attraction models hinging on cults of personalities we focus on humbler approaches founded on neighborhood presence. Forsaking church growth metrics we will focus instead on fostering authentic relationships. Join us as we discuss our journey through deconstruction to reconstructing a Guerrilla Pastoral approach that emphasizes a broad kingdom imagination, practices a generous orthodoxy and celebrates a necessarily diverse praxis.
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[019] Power, Prestige & Influence

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[020] Foyer Score Keeping | Part 1 |
[020] Foyer Score Keeping | Part 1 |
 In this episode we sit down with our third of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor Mike Ford and our conversation in part one revolves around what doesn't work about this "one size fits all" ministry approach so many denominations emphasize. 
36:10
November 14, 2022
[019] Power, Prestige & Influence
[019] Power, Prestige & Influence
Ryan, Josiah and Brian have another round table discussion in response to our last interview of Pastor David Rodes. We discuss his decision to not pursue a promotion, as well as the tendencies evangelical have when it comes to the pursuit of power and influence. 
47:20
October 24, 2022
[018] Prevenient Subversion | Part 2 |
[018] Prevenient Subversion | Part 2 |
Part two! In this episode we sit down with our second of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor David Rodes and our conversation revolved around what church is and how he has pastored over the past five decades. 
35:21
October 05, 2022
[017] Prevenient Subversion | Part 1 |
[017] Prevenient Subversion | Part 1 |
In this episode we sit down with our second of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor David Rodes and our conversation revolved around what church is and how he has pastored over the past five decades. 
40:18
September 27, 2022
[016] On Pastoral Education
[016] On Pastoral Education
Ryan, Josiah and Brian have a round table discussion about how we currently prepare pastors for ministry. They also wrestle with what they would do if their children wanted to pursue a pastoral calling.
43:04
September 20, 2022
[015] Coping with Change | Part 2 |
[015] Coping with Change | Part 2 |
Featuring Pastor Craig Laughlin! In part two, we discuss the inevitable changes church are currently facing and how they will adapt if they hope to continue existing in the future. Additionally, we spend time imagining how Guerrilla pastors may partner with traditional churches, and how to prepare the next generation of pastors for a church that will look wildly different tomorrow than it does today. This is our first of three separate conversations with successful traditional pastors here in the Pacific Northwest as we endeavor to make good on our claim that we would rather collaborate than "burn it all down."
29:24
September 12, 2022
[014] Coping with Change | Part 1 |
[014] Coping with Change | Part 1 |
Featuring Pastor Craig Laughlin! In this part one episode, we sit down with a traditional Sunday morning pastor to discuss all things Guerrilla Pastor. Namely we discuss the inevitable changes church are currently facing and how they will adapt if they hope to continue existing in the future. This is our first of three separate conversations with successful traditional pastors here in the Pacific Northwest as we endeavor to make good on our claim that we would rather collaborate than "burn it all down."
32:24
September 05, 2022
[013] Seven Days Of Presence
[013] Seven Days Of Presence
Brian Wardlaw give us a much closer look how how the finances work at the Ballard homestead. He also shares some of his philosophy of ministry as it pertains to stewardship of the facilities he helps care for in the Seattle Metro area.
01:00:11
August 22, 2022
[012] Current Financial Paradigm
[012] Current Financial Paradigm
The Guerrilla Pastors discuss the current limitations of tradition church ministries which operate within institutional norms. They also dream of what could be if we side-stepped tithing as the only way to fund our mission. Book recommendation: The Revolution Will Not Be Funded 
41:53
August 08, 2022
[011] Compositional Ministry
[011] Compositional Ministry
Part two of our interview of Amanda rounds up a discussion of the work she is doing. We also share our take on why it is a celebration of a diverse praxis. The subject matter of naming sexual assault and human trafficking in the bible is subversive in its own right, but how Amanda is partnering with churches to teach these subjects makes all the more “guerrilla” in nature.
34:51
July 10, 2022
[010] Part of the Problem
[010] Part of the Problem
We continue on this episode with sharing examples of pastors doing subversive ministry. This time we interview Amanda Montgomery who is in the midst of writing a book to help churches become advocates for those who have experienced human trafficking and sexual assault. Her work gives insight into how Guerrilla Pastors and traditional churches may mutually benefit from the relationships they have with one another.  Want to know more about Amandas work? Here is her email: PastorAmandaMontgomery@gmail.com
40:18
June 28, 2022
[009] Paying Attention
[009] Paying Attention
We catch up with the rest of Shawn Mattson's story in this episode. From growing up in a church to pastoring it through all kids of cultural changes, we hear his heart as his priorities shifts from building the next megachurch to something a little more subversive. 
34:15
June 13, 2022
[008] Just a Building
[008] Just a Building
Regina is back to share her story of wrestling with antiquated ministry models that are limited to what can be done inside of a building. Brian and Ryan respond to her story and share little tidbits of what they think it takes to shift to a Guerrilla Ministry model founded on subversive presence.  Book Recommendation: Canoeing the Mountains
37:49
May 30, 2022
[007] Subversive Presence
[007] Subversive Presence
The Guerrilla Pastors begin an ongoing discussion about subversive presence. They share conceptually what this term means with a number of stories along the way.
28:11
May 15, 2022
Update On Release Schedule
Update On Release Schedule
Our schedule is changing. We will be releasing episodes every other Sunday starting this week! 
00:32
May 11, 2022
[006] Called to Reject
[006] Called to Reject
We have used the word reject in past episodes, so we thought it pertinent to outline what it was we are specifically rejecting. Join us as we continue on this journey of being Guerrilla Pastors seeking to minister through subversive presence.  Books referenced in this episode:  Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/04/26/called-to-reject/
33:47
April 27, 2022
[005] To Come Alive - A Conversation About Vocation
[005] To Come Alive - A Conversation About Vocation
On this episode, Ryan, Josiah and Brian discuss the term vocation and what it means for pastoral ministry at large. We also hear from a new pastor named Regina who breaks the "one-size-fits-all" in every possible way. Additionally, stats on age of clergy and ethnic make-up are discussed as well. Those studies can be found here and here. Thank you for listening to the Guerrilla Pastor's Podcast! Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/04/11/to-come-alive/
35:30
April 13, 2022
[004] Celebrating a Diverse Praxis
[004] Celebrating a Diverse Praxis
What do you think of when you imagine a Pastor? What is their primary job? If there is a stereotype for pastoring, we don't seem to fit into it. Join us as we discuss the benefits of having more diversity in the ministries offered within the church!
20:05
March 30, 2022
[003] Being Known for a Benevolent Orthodoxy
[003] Being Known for a Benevolent Orthodoxy
On this episode we take a hard look at the things the we are known for. The labels "Christian" and "Evangelical" come fully loaded with definitions we explore. Our hope is that we would be known for having a Benevolent Orthodoxy founded on the person of Jesus instead of all the things evangelicals are said to be known for in studies like this: https://www.prri.org/research/partisan-polarization-dominates-trump-era-findings-from-the-2018-american-values-survey/ This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/03/15/being-known-for-a-benevolent-orthodoxy/
25:11
March 16, 2022
[002] Cultivating a Broad Kingdom Imagination
[002] Cultivating a Broad Kingdom Imagination
Ryan, Josiah, and Brian discussion cultivating a broad kingdom imagination. Church must be seen as more than two hours on a Sunday morning in a particular kind of building. Join us as we dream of what the church could do today to prepare for what we can be doing tomorrow.  This episode is also available as a blog post with transcript: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/03/01/broad-kingdom-imagination/
22:58
March 02, 2022
[001] What is a Guerrilla Pastor?
[001] What is a Guerrilla Pastor?
Ryan, Josiah and Brian all hail from the great Pacific Northwest. As Pastors, they have had to learn how to adapt to a culture that is post-christian. As a result, their ministry approaches are considered quite unconventional. Listen as they share some of what that looks like as well as why they might give themselves the title of Guerrilla Pastors. This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/02/16/what-is-a-guerrilla-pastor/
43:37
February 16, 2022
The Guerrilla Pastors - Trailer
The Guerrilla Pastors - Trailer
The "Guerrilla Pastors" is a podcast that chronicles these young ministers shift from "traditional" church ministry to a subversive pastoral presence. Instead of attraction models hinging on cults of personalities we focus on humbler approaches founded on neighborhood presence. Forsaking church growth metrics we will focus instead on fostering authentic relationships Join us as we discuss our journey through deconstruction to reconstructing a Guerrilla Pastoral approach that emphasizes a broad kingdom imagination, practices a generous orthodoxy and celebrates a necessarily diverse praxis. This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2021/11/05/gemstones/
01:14
November 05, 2021