Join us for a conversation with Dr. Katina Sawyer and Dr. Patricia Grabarek.

Organizational psychologists, co-founders of Workr Beeing, and the powerhouse duo behind Leading for Wellness (Wiley, March 2025).

Katina and Patricia are on a mission to reshape the future of work—where well-being isn’t a perk, it’s a priority. Drawing from decades of research, consulting, and leadership experience, they bring science-backed strategies to help leaders create thriving, inclusive, and truly human workplaces. Their work lives at the intersection of wellness, equity, and evidence-based leadership—because thriving cultures don’t happen by chance, they happen by design.

What sets them apart? They don’t just work with burnt-out teams or toxic cultures—they work with forward-thinking organizations that want to stay healthy. Their clients aren’t looking for band-aid solutions; they’re seeking deep, sustainable change. Whether it's through data-driven insights, leadership development, or their upcoming book, Patricia and Katina deliver practical tools that actually move the needle on well-being and performance.

Together, they’ve been featured in Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Fast Company, and the L.A. Times, and recognized by Culture Amp as Top Emerging Culture Creators. From TEDx stages to high-impact consulting rooms, they bring a rare blend of academic rigor, real-world relevance, and compassionate leadership.

If you’re ready to lead with intention, build healthier teams, and redefine what success looks like in the modern workplace, Katina and Patricia are the guides you’ve been looking for.

The Hacking HR Podcast - Episode 345