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By Hannah Davey and Tyler Hartman

Dad-rock musician Tyler Hartman and jack of all genres, devotee of none Hannah Davey talk about music. Listen for stories about two people loving music, or if you're looking for new songs and bands to check out!

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Playlists: Disco Elysium (and Cover Song Musings)

Hear That?Jan 20, 2023

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Playlists: Disco Elysium (and Cover Song Musings)

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion (but not really spoilers) for the video game Disco Elysium, including mention of some of the dark themes it covers and the fact that it has a LOT of the use of a specific homophobic slur.

Hannah Davey and Tyler Hartman are here to talk about music! Tyler is a dad rock (formerly punk) musician with industry knowledge and music production experience, Hannah Davey is a media enthusiast, writer, and podcast producer with opinions.

Hannah Davey has, in an unusual twist, fallen in love with a video game! Very unlike them. They discuss a bit of what playing Disco Elysium is like (not a happy time, but an interesting and occasionally hilarious time) and the playlist they built to capture the feeling of the game and the way that they experienced it. Tyler is so impressed with people who take art and make it their own, making the world bigger and cooler because of their interpretation. We also discuss covering songs and what that means to Tyler, and he discusses his plan for covering a song from the movie ‘Inside Llewyn Davis’ that hit him hard.

You can email us at hdandtylerhartman@gmail.com. Find Tyler Hartman’s music at www.tylerjohnhartmanmusic.com and all major streaming services. Find what Hannah Davey’s working on at hd-creates.neocities.org.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands and songs mentioned:

‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ and ‘Waterloo’ by ABBA
Noir Desiré
Linkin Park
Stromae, specifically the music video to ‘Tous le mêmes’
‘Perpetual Mild Illness’ by the Crooks and Nannies
Gideon the Ninth Playlist on Spotify
‘Hallelujah’ by Leonard Cohen (and others)
‘Stand By Me’ by Ben E. King (and others)
‘Fare Thee Well’ by Oscar Isaac
Gregory Alan Isakov

Jan 20, 202320:55

Concert Talk: Murder by Death and Amigo the Devil

The band Murder by Death made it to Hannah Davey’s Top Band of Spotify 2022 on their Spotify Wrapped, and it was up there on Tyler’s Spotify Wrapped for 2022 as well. It’s been a while since we recorded our thoughts on music, but HD is ready to talk about the MBD vibe and Amigo the Devil’s in-concert charisma, and Tyler shares his past experiences listening to both bands and seeing them live.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands and songs mentioned:

Murder By Death albums Spell/Bound (2022) and The Other Shore (2018)
‘I Hope Your Husband Dies’ by Amigo the Devil

Jan 13, 202311:23

Swords and Nick Lutsko

Tyler is very excited to talk about Nick Lutsko’s latest album, ’Swords.’ He compares Nick Lutsko to Tim Kasher’s album ‘Cursive,’ Hannah Davey sees some Lemon Demon in this, and the two of them talk about the beautiful value of song composition. Tyler recommends Nick Lutsko's music videos, too, especially to the song “All Shook Up,” which is his favorite song (not on the ’Swords’ album). This leads us into discussing the value of brats and hot dogs. Stick around for a couple minutes after the outro to get a little glimpse into HD’s Texas non-adventure, too—this conversation has a lot of layers.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Aug 12, 202215:02

Friend Talk: Indie Rap Recommendations

Tyler and his friend Derrick reminisce about their experiences playing various venues in Minneapolis, like the Red Raven, where it was a struggle to get an audience but a great space with great potential. Hannah Davey and Tyler interview Derrick about his process of making music, which is lyrics-heavy work compared to Tyler’s song-first-then-lyrics process. We get into what got all of us into hip hop music, too, and we have a whole list of albums to check out if you like nu metal (thanks, Derrick and Tyler) and esoteric indie rap.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Filler Music: I’m So Fucking Happy That I Could Just Puke On You by FDR

Post-Outro Music: Spacecraft Graveyard by FDR

Bands mentioned:

Garth Brooks
Limp Bizkit
Edima
Linkin Park
Korn
Trust Company
Eminem (specifically the EP ‘Slim Shady’)
Insane Clown Posse (specifically the albums ‘The Amazing Juggle Brothers,’ ‘The Great Malenko,’ ‘Riddlebox,’ ‘Ringmaster, ‘Carnival of Carnage,’ and ‘Bizarre Bizarre’)
Twisted
Atmosphere (specifically the album ‘Lucy Ford,’ ‘When Life Gives You Lemons’)
Sage Francis
Aesop Rock
Doomtree
Rymesayers
Eyedea & Abilities (specifically the album ‘By The Throat’)
Brother Ali
El-P
Dessa
Bliss N Eso
Deftones

Aug 05, 202234:47

Wet and Nasty Bands

It can be hard to make a name for yourself in the music world, but what if the name you choose is disgusting? We say a lot of really bad words and troubling phrases in this episode as we talk about wet and nasty bands you can’t wear merch for if you’re going to be seen in public. Good music, though! Always good music.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands and songs mentioned:

Wet Leg
PWR BTTM
STR FKR
Anal Cunt
Fucked Up
‘hot girl bummer’ by blackbear
Olivia Rodrigo
‘Slim Shady’ by Eminem
‘Jizz in My Pants’ by Lonely Island
‘GO PHUCK YOURSELF’ by Royal and the Serpent

Jul 29, 202216:00

Music Permissions

Tyler put out an album of covers, and he goes into the process of what that was like. There’s horror stories and a triumphant ending. Hannah Davey loves a good bureaucracy story, because they’re very unwell. We blame Napster for not crediting art correctly. We also briefly talk about the importance of paying for art you like, directly supporting creators, and the importance of paying for your adult special fun time content.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Media mentioned:

Laura Jane Grace, our beloved

‘The Less Than Epic Adventures of TJ and Amal’ by EK Weaver (18+ comic/webcomic)

‘Ballad of Oregon’ by River City Extension

The Gentlemen (2019)

“Ronald Regan’s Grave is a Gender Neutral Bathroom” by Roswell Newton Vargas and Mia aka Shitpostcalligrapher

Jul 22, 202223:45

Playlists: Karaoke Go-Tos

Have you ever wanted to gather a big list of karaoke songs? Tyler and Hannah Davey have you covered! Hear our suggestions, especially if you have an awkward vocal range of deep and high.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands and songs mentioned:

MARINA
Orville Peck
‘Jolene’ by Dolly Parton
‘Ain’t No Rest for The Wicked’ by Cage the Elephant
‘Bitch’ by Alanis Morissette
‘Bodies’ by Drowning Pool
‘Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood’ by The Animals
‘What is Love?’ by Haddaway
‘Night Moves’ by Bob Seeger
Tom Waits
‘The Middle’ by Jimmy Eat World
‘Coming Home’ by Murder by Death
Bruce Springsteen
Gaslight Anthem
‘W.A.P’ by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion
‘Dance Ass’ by Big Shawn
‘Red Line’ and ‘Swinger’ by Geordie Kieffer
‘Cringe’ by Matt Maeson
‘Vagabond’ by MisterWives
‘Judas’ by Lady Gaga
Kesha
Katy Perry
Florence + the Machine
Bliss N Eso
Wheeler Walker Junior

Jul 15, 202215:59

Playlists: Building Playlists and Roadtrip Entertainment

Hannah Davey is good at building playlist and they explain a bit about their process. Tyler shares his experiences building road trip playlists, and a nice concert experience with WALK THE MOON.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Songs and bands mentioned:

‘Gooey’ by Glass Animals
‘City of Angels’ by Red Hot Chili Peppers
‘Cigarette Ahegao’ by Penelope Scott
Wall of Sound
Tycho
Jose Gonzalez
Tinariwen
Darlingside
‘Heavy’ by Birdtalker
Westerman
Minke
Moon Panda
Imogene Heap
MIKA
Freddy Mercury
‘Santa Buddy’ by Michael Bublé
‘Girls Just Wanna Have Fun’ by STR FKR
‘Natural Woman’ by Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies
‘Say Fuck It’ by Buckcherry
Rob Zombie
The National
Lambchop
Black English
Anti Flag
‘Kabberni Keef’ by KHANSA
The Brinks
Murder by Death
WALK THE MOON, specifically their album Talking Is Hard and the song ‘Shut Up and Dance With Me’
The Jezabels

Jul 08, 202228:27

Politics and Protest Songs

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of current politics around Roe vs. Wade repeals (we are angry), no spoilers but we do talk a bit about the show The Boys, and Tyler had a vasectomy so we talk about that a bit too.

Hannah Davey and Tyler Hartman are here to talk about music! Mostly. Tyler is a dad rock (formerly punk) musician with industry knowledge and music production experience, Hannah Davey is a media enthusiast, writer, and podcast producer with opinions.

Tyler and Hannah Davey start out talking about the show The Boys, which is on Amazon Prime. We then transition to talking about the state of human rights in the world right now, and how protest songs have helped us deal with or feel empowered during times when we’re really pissed at the status quo. Also Tyler is infertile now and HD is proud of him.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands mentioned in this episode:

Bruce Springsteen
The Thermals
Laura Jane Grace
Anti Flag
‘Mosh’ by Eminem

Jul 01, 202240:20

Concert Talk: Laura Jane Grace (and obscene shirts)

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of deadnames and deadnaming.

Tyler and Hannah Davey break down their experience seeing Laura Jane Grace in concert. Other concerts have had varying experiences, especially during COVID, but this was a good one. There is a brief detour in the conversation to discuss obscene band merchandise, too. Owning filthy shirts sounds fun, but Tyler and HD are not very hardcore people, alas. And about 20 minutes in, Tyler addresses our most listened-to episode—his excellent, exhaustive history of Against Me!—and a piece of deliberately obfuscated information in that episode.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands/musicians mentioned in this episode:

Laura Jane Grace (obviously)
Tim Kasher (of the bands Cursive and the Good Life)
Wilhelm Scream
Ghost
Twin Temple
Anthony Green (of the band Circa Survive)
BABYMETAL
Modest Mouse
The Manchester Orchestra
Foxing

Jun 17, 202227:26

Tyler and HD’s Top 5 Albums, part 2

Music can be so helpful in getting through rough times, and in this episode, Tyler and Hannah Davey explore their troubled pasts by discussing their top two albums of all time. They also recommend the albums you should listen to RIGHT NOW (once you finish listening to the podcast, of course).

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Songs mentioned:

‘Terrible Love’ by The National
‘Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks’ by The National
‘Blood Buzz Ohio’ by The National
‘Slow Show’ by The National
‘Humiliation’ by The National
‘Fake Empire’ by The National
‘Raise Your Glass’ by P!nk
‘Just Like A Pill’ by P!nk
‘Don’t Let Me Get Me’ by P!nk
‘Get The Party Started’ by P!nk
‘The Confessor’ by Quiet Company
‘Preaching to the Choir Invisible’ by Quiet Company
‘Set Your Monster Free’ by Quiet Company
‘You, Me, and The Boatman’ by Quiet Company
‘Particle Man’ by They Might Be Giants
‘Birdhouse in Your Soul’ by They Might Be Giants
‘Istanbul (Not Constantinople)’ by They Might Be Giants
‘The Mesopotamians’ by They Might Be Giants
‘I See the Constellation (Ride Across the Sky)’ by They Might Be Giants
‘Mammal’ by They Might Be Giants
‘New Noise’ by Refused
‘The Shape of Punk to Come’ by Refused
‘Feel Good, Inc.’ by Gorillaz
‘Dare’ by Gorillaz
‘Fire Coming Out of the Monkey’s Head’ by Gorillaz

Punk bands mentioned:

Botch
Cave In
At The Drive-In

Jun 10, 202252:06

Tyler and HD’s Top 5 Albums, part 1

Tyler and HD dig into what they think makes a good album and discuss their top 5 albums of all time. Here’s albums 5-3.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Songs mentioned:

‘The Bones of You’ by Elbow

‘Hatefuck’ by The Bravery

‘Tragedy Bound - Sun Version’ by The Bravery

‘Bad Sun - Moon Version’ by The Bravery

‘Honest Mistake’ by The Bravery

‘Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners’ by Against Me!

‘Joy’ by Against Me! (also covered by Tyler on Dad Camp)
‘Don’t Lose Touch’ by Against Me!
‘Bloodstream’ by Stateless
‘Murder at the Bingo Hall’ by Amigo the Devil
‘Bloom’ by Murder by Death
‘I Have Arrived’ by Murder by Death
‘Welcome Home’ by Radical Face
‘Wrapped in Piano Strings’ by Radical Face
‘Family Portrait’ by Radical Face
‘Life on Remote’ by Claire de Lune

Jun 03, 202242:18

Grooving to Music (Especially at Concerts)

Hannah Davey is obsessed with the song ‘I Want It All’ by COIN. They even tell you how they found it. Then Tyler and HD get derailed talking about memories associated with songs, especially if they’ve seen concerts of bands. They discuss HD’s good experiences in Mother Mother, Hozier, Kishi Bashi, and The Mountain Goats concerts. Sometimes fans can ruin a concert (Tyler advises avoiding Buckcherry and general punk show concerts for the audience). Hannah Davey shares a story of a Daughter concert they went to, and Tyler notes it can be hard when you expect a certain vibe from a band but it’s different live. He discusses Shakey Graves and a Trampled By Turtles and Deertick concert, and HD notes their time in an Andrew Bird concert and Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats (who Tyler has also seen live). Lots of stories of seeing music live here, and the range of experiences that brings.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

May 27, 202225:51

Songwriting Lies and Covers and Swears

We talk about the weird feeling we get from listening to songs that aren’t written by the artist who play them. This leads us to talking about covers of songs, when they’re taken over by someone vs. impossible to cover with the same intensity. Also, Hannah Davey has just started a punk phase and is loving gleefully dirty bands, and we end up discussing how cool it is to use ‘the f-word’ in songs (and in life).

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Songs and artists mentioned:

‘Don’t Start Now’ by Dua Lipa

‘I Will Always Love You’ by Dolly Parton, covered by Whitney Huston

‘Hallelujah’ by Leonard Cohen, covered by Jeff Buckley, Rufus Wainwright, Daniel Kahn (in Yiddish), Imogen Heap, and many more!
Pop Goes Punk and Punk Goes... cover album series by Fearless Records
’Stitches’ by Shawn Mendez, covered by State Champs
Limp Bizkit’s new album Still Sucks
‘Crazy Bitch,’ ‘Lit Up,’ and ‘Fist Fuck’ by Buckcherry
‘I Love It’ by Icona Pop, covered by Buckcherry as ‘Say Fuck It’
Off With Their Heads
‘Little Lion Man’ by Mumford & Sons off of their album Sigh No More
Gojira
Venom

May 20, 202224:36

What Makes a Song ‘Good’?

Tyler and Hannah Davey discuss listening to songs over and over. Tyler admits he’s been on a Lemon Demon kick (especially ‘Two Trucks’ from the album Spirit Phone). Tyler notes the silliness and absurdity of Marc Rebillet, and other artists who create with a great deal of skill while also being very silly. Dragonforce is a band that is technically skilled with massively complex songs, but does that make a song great? Bob Dylan creates timeless songs that are still well-known and popular today, but Tyler’s 5-year-old hates how Dylan's voice sounds. The most iconic songs are often 3-chord songs that resonate with people in terms of lyrics. Tyler discusses the value of lyrics over musicality. It’s very interesting to see what lyrics stick in the mind, and Hannah Davey reads some examples of very specific yet universal lyrics from The Mountain Goats and Against Me! HD also presents the Johnny Cash version of Nine Inch Nails’ song ‘Hurt’ as an example of a song that is very popular and very simple. Ultimately, we have no idea what makes something ‘art.’ But we have some ideas you can check out!

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Filler Music: ‘Sometimes It Rains’ by Lobo Loco via Free Music Archive

Hannah Davey reads an excerpt of lyrics from the following songs by The Mountain Goats:

“Jenny”
“Absolute Lithops Effect”
“Up The Wolves”
“This Year”
“Love Love Love”
“Autoclave”
“Color In Your Cheeks”
“Midland”

HD also reads an excerpt of lyrics from the following songs by Against Me!:

“Thrash Unreal”
“Black Me Out”
“Dead Friend”
“Transgender Dysphoria Blues”

May 13, 202228:01

Band Betrayal: Separating Art and Artist?

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of accused pedophiles and mention of date rape.

The whole conceit of this podcast is built around different experiences of music and discussing those divergences. Hannah Davey and Tyler talk about this experience, as well as the difficulty of separating art from the artist when the artist does something horrible but you really enjoy the song. We don’t go into any details about the crimes people have committed or been accused of committing, but we do speak them pretty starkly. If this would be triggering, we promise we’ll move on to less depressing topics next episode.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands/artists we’re uncomfortable liking now because someone did something foul:

Marilyn Manson
Mindless Self Indulgence
Newfound Glory

Bands/artists that are foul but we find delightful:

Wheeler Walker Junior
Buckcherry

May 06, 202218:37

Against Me! - A History

Hannah Davey and Tyler Hartman are here to talk about music! Tyler is a dad rock (formerly punk) musician with industry knowledge and music production experience; Hannah Davey is a media enthusiast, writer, and podcast producer with opinions.

Tyler gives a history of Against Me! and their connection with Fat Wreck Chords and Epitaph Records as he goes into the production history of the band, as well as how complicated it felt to love a punk band and then see them as ‘sellouts.’ We take a moment to note that They Might Be Giants appeared on MTV and it’s not a bad thing to want to make money doing a thing you love. We especially dig into how much we love the song ‘Thrash Unreal.’ We talk about the happy, angry, joyous stories that Laura Jane Grace shares in her music, and really recommend listening to Against Me!’s album New Wave. Tyler notes how well-produced it sounds, and how raw they sound nowadays. And then we spend a few moments noting how it can be dangerous to dig into the punk and metal scene, and how it’s a counterculture that’s ripe ground for white nationalists and libertarians. You can curate your own music experience, though, as Spotify’s algorithms do and as Hannah Davey has with their listening patterns.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

‘bleep’ sound effect from Free Sounds Library

Punk bands mentioned:

Grunge bands mentioned:

Post-Grunge/Grunge-Inspired/Grunge-Inspiring bands mentioned:

Other bands mentioned:

Baroness (heavy metal)
They Might Be Giants (alternative)
Nashville Pussy (rock)

Apr 29, 202229:51

The Long and Short of Songs

In this episode, Tyler and Hannah Davey discuss the value of long songs versus short songs. Tyler recommends Between the Buried and Me (in a respect way), HD talks about the wonder of ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ by Queen and ‘The Shrine’ by Fleet Foxes. They both get detrailed thinking about the Lemonade album by Beyonce. Tyler talks about Meatloaf and the expansion of music production during that era, and notes the band Wilhelm Scream and how short their songs are. HD wishes ‘Generator (First Floor)’ by Freelance Whales was longer, as well as some songs by Patients and unkle stiltskin (the early release band names of Radical Face). HD and Tyler both discuss how hard it is to end stories and songs. It’s also sometimes hard to end podcasts (though Tyler and HD have no trouble jumping right into starting them).

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bands/songs discussed:

Between the Buried and Me
‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ by Queen
‘The Shrine’ by Fleet Foxes
‘Montero’ by Lil Nas X
Lemonade by Beyoncé
‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’ by Iron Butterfly
Meatloaf
Wilhelm Scream
‘Generator (First Floor)’ by Freelance Whales
Patients, unkle stiltskin, Radical Face (all the same artist by different names—hit HD up in our email if you want examples of Patients and unkle stiltskin, since it’s harder to find)
Mastadon
Behemoth
There Will Be No Intermission by Amanda Palmer
Kimya Dawson
Tycho

Apr 22, 202227:29

Down the Frightened Rabbit Hole

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of mental health crises and suicide.

This episode is a bummer with bright spots! Heed the content warning, please, because HD and Tyler are talking about the absolutely amazing band Frightened Rabbit and the lead musician, Scott Hutchison (1981-2018). HD and Tyler discuss the musicality of the band as well as the pain and joy of the lyrics, and how that’s all tied to their own mental health journeys. Tyler also discusses a tribute song to Scott that was created by Frank Turner, “A Wave Across A Bay.”

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Apr 15, 202221:28

Replayability and Bass Lines to Blow Your Mind

In this episode, Tyler and Hannah Davey discuss music replayability and relistening to songs over and over again, then get sidetracked talking about great bass lines and how those make you feel (physically and emotionally).

You can email us at hdandtylerhartman@gmail.com. Find Tyler Hartman’s music at www.tylerjohnhartmanmusic.com and all major streaming services.

Intro and Outro Music by Tyler Hartman

Bass examples:

‘Heart Shaped Box’ by Nirvana
‘War All the Time’ by Thursday
‘Devil Like Me’ by Rainbow Kitten Surprise
‘Jenny Was a Friend of Mine’ by The Killers
’Summer Skin’ by Death Cab for Cutie

Apr 08, 202218:56

First Impressions: 'Simulation Swarm'

In this episode, we discuss the band Big Thief and their song 'Simulation Swarm.' Hannah Davey reads an excerpt of lyrics they captured by listening to an Instagram reel back in March 2021, before the album came out. The actual song lyrics differ. Find Big Thief at bigthief.net.

You can email us at hdandtylerhartman@gmail.com. Find Tyler Hartman’s music at www.tylerjohnhartmanmusic.com and all major streaming services.

Intro and Outro Music: LANDR by Tyler Hartman

Filler Music: ‘Work Wonders’ by Lobo Loco via Free Music Archive

Apr 01, 202221:31