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Heterodorx

By Nina Paley

Heterodox dorks Nina Paley and Corinna Cohn talk about whatever they feel like.
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HeterodorxSep 13, 2021

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“A Path to Inclusion” with Cyd Zeigler

“A Path to Inclusion” with Cyd Zeigler

Cyd Zeigler started OutSports in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex categories open up opportunities; and that both sides point to Title IX as the reason they’re right. Nina pushes back on safety; Corinna introduces the idea of locus of control; and everyone agrees more data is needed. Despite an unfortunate technical error that ends the game early (that’s what happens when your tech support is an alpaca), Zeigler remains sportsmanlike throughout.

Links:

Outsports: https://www.outsports.com/

Renee Richards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

Nancy Hogshead-Makar: https://championwomen.org/meet-nancy-hogshead-makar/

Colin Wright explains sex categories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WV9xv62f4&ab_channel=Genspect

rainbow hockey tape ban: https://www.outsports.com/2023/10/24/23930391/nhl-reverses-pride-tape-ban-players-gay-lgbtq/

Colin Kaepernick kneeling: https://apnews.com/article/f9bbe38b748072531b07713736409181

Megan Rapinoe kneeling: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663982-megan-rapinoe-kneels-during-national-anthem-before-usa-vs-thailand

ICONS Women In Sports conference 2023: https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-international-womens-sports-summit/

Mar 28, 202450:24
Autoandrophilia with Aaron Terrell
Mar 20, 202401:22:21
Taking Action with Ellen Daehnick

Taking Action with Ellen Daehnick

When Things need to get done, it’s people like Ellen Daehnick who do them. Daehnick recently retired from her high-powered career to become a full-time “Unpaid Gender Crank”, focusing on legislation. She describes her first time testifying to the Colorado state legislature against CO House Bill 1071, which welcomes felons to change their legal names as long as they claim a trans identity. More of this remarkable hearing, described as “bananas” by audio editor Lisa Jones, can be found here. We discuss how to prepare for effective testimony, why female politicians support policies that harm women, selective empathy, toxic femininity, class, chiggers, and appeals to emotion vs facts. “Deadnaming,” “misgendering” and “mentioning the criminal record of an individual” may be verboten in the Colorado Statehouse, but the real genocide is the friends we made along the way. 


Ellen Daehnick on twitter: https://twitter.com/edaehnick

Daehnick’s email: genderwatchco@gmail.com

Audio Recap of CO HB 24-1071 "The Felon Name-Change Bill" by Lisa Jones: https://www.thatlisajones.com/new-kinda-colorado-crazy/

Colorado House Bill 24-1071: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1071

Christina Goeke kicked out of Colorado Statehouse: https://twitter.com/goeke_christina/status/1752490704020881694

Tiara/Duane Kelley: https://www.thepublica.com/transgender-drag-queen-who-inspired-bill-to-make-name-changes-easier-for-trans-felons-in-colorado-has-lengthy-criminal-record/

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/

Corinna’s talk “Political Organizing in America” at Genspect Denver 2023: https://youtu.be/5VpOhM7PXco?si=gTOu9FtmarVgKLLF

Nina’s Quilt Suite: https://www.airbnb.com/h/quiltsuite

Illinois HB 4876: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4876&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=152735&SessionID=112&GA=103

Mar 09, 202401:19:59
Mitigating the Damage with Jamie Reed

Mitigating the Damage with Jamie Reed

Last year, case manager Jamie Reed blew the whistle on the gender clinic that had employed her for almost four years. Today, she faces an even more frightening challenge: being a guest on the Heterodorx podcast. Jamie’s impeccable lefty credentials never prepared her for Corinna’s relentless sarcasm, let alone what she witnessed in the medical system: clueless endocrinologists, children making lifelong decisions about their fertility, untreated eating disorders, ignored red flags, young patients entering sex work, TikTok tics, medical harms, repeated “never events,” and the medical abandonment of detransitioners. We also discuss the personal and professional costs borne by whistleblowers, double standards in the press, alpacas (again), and Corinna’s geriatric cat. Jamie reminds us, “we are all broken"; Corinna reminds us, “give your gay money to Jamie.”

Links:

Jamie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamieWhistle

“I Thought I was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.” Jamie Reed’s Free Press story: https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith introduces new gender policies: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/danielle-smith-1.7101595

Washington State whistleblower Tamara Pietzke: https://www.thefp.com/p/i-was-fired-after-blowing-the-whistle

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-refused-to-approve-all-teen-gender-transitions

LGBT Courage Coalition: https://www.lgbtcourage.org/

LGBT Courage Coalition Substack substack: https://lgbtcouragecoalition.substack.com/

Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552

Mar 01, 202401:44:54
TERF-Tranny Alliances with Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal

TERF-Tranny Alliances with Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal

Canada is not merely America’s Hat; it’s also home to Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal, a TERF-Tranny duo rivaling the Heterodorx in both hardliner contempt and world domination. We discuss womanface, tribal identities, the sterilization of First Nations youth, aging, Feminized Eunuch Males (FEMs), Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID), do-it-yourself genocide, “tru trans”, matching costumes, coerced speech, pronouns, Tide suppositories, and dubious hygiene tips. Who is the fairest handmaiden/pet troon of them all? Listen and find out!


Links:

Eva Kurilova’s Substack: https://www.evakurilova.com/

Eva on twitter: https://twitter.com/eva_kurilova

Lois on twitter: https://twitter.com/duchess_elle

Reduxx: https://reduxx.info/author/evak/

The Distance: https://www.thedistancemag.com/

Gender Dissent: https://www.genderdissent.com/

Spinster: spinster.xyz

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

Feb 24, 202401:17:03
Safeguarding, Lesbophobia, and DARVO
Feb 15, 202455:41
Alpacne! with Jennifer Lahl

Alpacne! with Jennifer Lahl

Filmmaker and former pediatric nurse Jennifer Lahl's latest short documentary, The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood, focuses on male detransitioners. We discuss film distribution, the festival circuit, crowdfunding, straight-to-online, subtitles (“How do you say ‘chopped off his penis’ in Spanish?”), the obsolescence of DVDs, Jennifer’s ex-boyfriend from her nursing school days, “trans healthcare”, the Crying Chicken Lady who says children should be driving, and Corinna’s search for teen alpacahood. Lahl alleges this is her last film (we don’t believe her) so watch it online for free right now.


Links:

The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network: https://cbc-network.org/

The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood https://youtu.be/AaiicS2HXW4?si=3CKcnEQIovXsHlQm

The Detransition Diaries: Saving Our Sisters https://youtu.be/910JVOJSM2I?si=KE4_kz_a1iWc9EY3

Trans Mission: What’s the Rush to Reassign Gender? https://youtu.be/rUeqEoARKOA?si=zdPYT_4V-T-JF3e4

Jennifer Lahl on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JenniferLahl

Heterodorx’s Ray Alex Williams episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-121-unblinded-by-the-light-with-ray-alex-williams/

Feb 07, 202401:10:29
Welcome to the Gender Wars, Dr. Gary Francione!

Welcome to the Gender Wars, Dr. Gary Francione!

After Corinna complains about an obnoxious and possibly libelous article in the Washington Post, the Dorx welcome legal scholar, philosopher, vegan, and animal rights activist Dr. Gary Francione. We discuss Equality Claims vs Belief Claims, old-school transsexuals, admitting you’re wrong, Andrea Dworkin, nonviolence, intersectionality, and the principles of a liberal pluralistic society. Can we police fetishes? Who’s Afraid of Kathleen Stock? Why are vegans extra crazy? Does Corinna really not want to be a Good Person? What is “harm”? Despite Corinna disparaging young people going vegan, and Nina swearing a lot about Crohn’s disease, Dr. Francione offers a banquet of (plant-based) food for thought.

Links

Gary Francione’s website: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

Gary Francione’s essay on the Trans Rights Issue: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-trans-rights-issue-equality-claims-and-belief-claims/

Julie Bindel: The Unforgivable Transing of Andrea Dworkin https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-unforgivable-transing-of-andrea

Why Veganism Matters: The Moral Value of Animals by Gary Francione https://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-veganism-matters/9780231199612

Nina’s Gender Wars playing cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

How Do I Go Vegan https://www.howdoigovegan.com/


Nina and Corinna will be guests at the Unspeakeasy retreat in Louisville, KY April 9-10! It’s for women only, even though Corinna isn’t one! Sign up and ask what organizer/host Meghan Daum was thinking: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/2024-unspeakeasy-retreats

Jan 28, 202401:23:53
Unblinded by the Light with Ray Alex Williams

Unblinded by the Light with Ray Alex Williams

For 8 years, Ray Alex Williams claimed to be a woman, zealously promoting transgender ideology, ingesting spirolactone and exogenous estrogen, doing "a lot of twitter activism,” and writing a book about trans philosophy. In May 2023 he socially and medically detransitioned, issuing public apologies shortly thereafter. How did “Rachel Anne Williams” — who just a few years ago was so “unhinged” he made Grace Lavery “readable” in comparison — become the lucid, humble, reality-based man we hear in this interview? Listen up, because his story is jam-packed with insights. 

Links:

Ray Alex Williams on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RayAlexWilliams/

Ray Alex Williams on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RayAlexWilliams

Rachel Anne Williams takes on Kathleen Stock in 2019: https://www.peaktrans.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ThreadReader_0_transphilosophr_1132859653006680064-1.pdf

Commentary on Rachel Anne Williams taking on Kathleen Stock in 2019: https://www.peaktrans.org/a-response-to-a-response-to-doing-better-in-arguments-about-sex-gender-and-trans-rights/#more-7728

Ray Alex Williams apologizes in 2023: https://twitter.com/RayAlexWilliams/status/1735629670618399092

Transgressive: A Trans Woman on Gender, Feminism, and Politics by Rachel Anne Williams (before detransitioning to Ray Alex Williams): https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Trans-Gender-Feminism-Politics/dp/1785926470

Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell https://www.harpercollins.com/products/cultish-amanda-montell

Rob Henderson on Luxury Beliefs: https://www.robkhenderson.com/p/status-symbols-and-the-struggle-for


Jan 18, 202401:08:02
Rosie Kay Believes in The Power of the Arts

Rosie Kay Believes in The Power of the Arts

Rosie Kay is a dancer, choreographer, “old-school feminist”, and co-founder of Freedom In The Arts in the UK. Both cancelled and resurrected, she’s also a fascinating and articulate speaker. She joined the Dorx back in November to talk about dance, brains, arts organizations, making controversial work, the “theater of dehumanization,” liberal values and their discontents, artificial intelligence, Choreography 101, pattern recognition, awkwardness, the decline of physical culture, disembodiment, COVID, dance vs. visual art, arts education, physical education, soldiering, tennis, walking, cycling, and the taboo of excellence. It took us a while to release this episode because at least one of us was paralyzed in a winter slough of despond, but it was worth the wait. 

Links:

Adult Female Dancer by Rosie Kay: https://youtu.be/1BJvbsnCEB8?si=sx7m3AyOo5REJTI7

Rosie Kay's dance company K2Co: https://k-2co.com/

Freedom in the Arts: https://www.freedominthearts.com/

The Man Wearing The Blue Dress at Genspect: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

Jan 08, 202401:11:13
Esprit de Corpse

Esprit de Corpse

Corinna and Nina poke at the dead body of the Gender Critical Movement. Cause of death? Illiberalism, revulsion, femagoguery, the narcissism of small differences, group polarization, junior high social dynamics, Calvinism, puritanism, gaslighting, victimhood as currency, and so much more. Plus, Nina gets diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. Where will the Dorx go from here? Wherever it may be, we’ll walk you there, for your own safety.


Links:


Revulsion Revolution: The Protective Power of Disgust by Amy Sousa: https://www.theknownheretic.com/p/revulsion-revolution-the-protective

The Art Coop (rhymes with “poop”): https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html 

Corinna pisses off everyone on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1732028270831440264

ICONS: https://www.iconswomen.com/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

National Women’s Law Center president Fatima Goss Graves hopes women learn to lose gracefully: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1732142697425572018

The Identity Trap by Yascha Mounk: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712961/the-identity-trap-by-yascha-mounk/

Stella O’Malley and Kellie-Jay Keen on Benjamin Boyce: https://youtu.be/OqG2gYvXm9A?si=oCis3LDOgWepe-JN

JK Rowling says “dress however you please”: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Nina dresses like a man: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1725174605101326781/photo/1

Dec 08, 202301:12:10
Librarians Losing Their Spine, with Penny Hummel

Librarians Losing Their Spine, with Penny Hummel

Librarians once stood for intellectual freedom and access to information, but today many prefer to suppress speech and intellectual diversity for the sake of a misguided concept of "social justice". One Davis, California library recently violated the First Amendment when they ejected a group of women discussing male athletes in female sports. Collections and programs are regularly distorted and compromised by ideologue librarians, while those watching in dismay fear to speak. Library consultant and advocate Penny Hummel breaks the silence to tell the Dorx what’s really happening in America’s libraries.

Links:

Penny Hummel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BeeWeave

FIRE article on Davis library violating First Amendment: https://www.thefire.org/news/california-library-violates-first-amendment-boots-speakers-referring-transgender-women

FIRE’s letter to Yolo County Library: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-letter-yolo-county-library-august-24-2023

ALA Webinar, "Transgender People In Libraries": https://elearning.ala.org/local/catalog/view/product.php?productid=1005

Does Sex Matter? panel at the Urbana Free Library, 2019: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/03/26/q-and-a-from-the-does-sex-matter-panel/

I Am Jazz: https://socialjusticebooks.org/i-am-jazz/

My Body Is Me by Rachel Rooney: https://www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/

Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/irreversible-damage-abigail-shrier/1133754701

Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Gender-Queer-A-Memoir/Maia-Kobabe/9781549304002

“NO TERFS”: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Nov 20, 202301:21:16
Ladies' Autogynephilia Chat with Shannon Thrace

Ladies' Autogynephilia Chat with Shannon Thrace

Shannon Thrace is a "transwidow" and author of the must-read novel Eighteen Months: A Memoir of a Marriage Lost to Gender Identity. She joins handmaiden pick-me tranny-lover Nina for a women’s-only talk about AUTOGYNEPHILIA, the cause célèbre currently ripping apart the TERFosphere. Is this about safeguarding and holding women’s boundaries, or is it tribal signaling? Why is it OK for David Bowie to crossdress, but not Phil Illy? Should there be different crossdressing rules for men and women? Who gets to make those rules? Where do we draw our lines? Did Nina wade into a morass or a cesspool? These are questions without definitive answers, except one: Where is Corinna? Answer: at work today, so Nina recorded and edited this episode alone.

Links:

Shannon Thrace’s essay, Genspect and AGPgate: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

Nina’s Art Coop "NO TERFS" sign complaint: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Genspect Denver conference: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

Phil Illy: https://substack.com/profile/109324793-phil-illy

This Jungian Life: Aaron Balick - Why Does Social Media Weaponize Our Reactions? https://thisjungianlife.com/aaron_balick/

Laura Becker/Funk God: https://www.funkgod.com/

Nov 14, 202301:04:05
"Ask a Zionist" with Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg

"Ask a Zionist" with Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg

After last weeks “Ask an Anti-Zionist,” the Dorx return to Ask a Zionist, Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg. What is a Zionist? Answer: “A person who believes that the Jews have a right to self-determination and self-protection in the ancient land of Israel,” which he says is the historical, original, biblical, literal Jewish homeland. Greenberg does not suffer discomfort with power and moral complexity. He reminds us every conceivable solution to “one of the most intractable conflicts on earth” has already been argued, and there is nothing new under the sun. “In every generation, they rise against us to destroy us.” Greenberg says Jews should arm up; culture matters; the rules of war are outdated; nobody actually cares about the Palestinians; media coverage is biased; history tells you what, philosophy tells you why; and Israel is not a colonial project, it’s a coming home. Nina asks: How will this end? Answer: ???

Links:

Jonathan Greenberg on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JGreenbergSez

Jewish Voice for Peace: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

If Not Now: https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/

Not In Our Name: https://notinourname.net/

Anti-Defamation League: https://www.adl.org/

Peter Beinart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Beinart

Ze’ev Jabotinsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze%27ev_Jabotinsky

Jewish students barricaded in Cooper Union library: https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/cooper-union-barricades-jewish-students-inside-library/

Pro-Palestinian projections on George Washington University library: https://wjla.com/news/local/accusations-of-anti-semitism-on-george-washington-university-campus-after-projection-of-pro-palestinian-messages-student-group-students-for-justice-in-palestine-jewish-israel-hamas-war-dmv-washington-dc-community

The Zionist Idea by Arthur Hertzberg: https://jps.org/books/zionist-idea/

A History of Israel by Howard Sachar: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/159513/a-history-of-israel-by-howard-m-sachar/

Oct 31, 202301:18:21
“Ask an Anti-Zionist” with Andy the Anti-Zionist
Oct 26, 202301:27:45
The Wrong Sort of Everything with Bev Jackson

The Wrong Sort of Everything with Bev Jackson

Longtime activist and author Bev Jackson is a founding member of the UK Gay Liberation Front and, more recently, co-founder of the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Alliance (LGBA), one the the only organizations standing for homosexual (as opposed to “queer”) rights and the only UK charity supporting truly lesbian events. We discuss the corruption of Wikipedia, the astronomical increase of transing girls, the “born that way” narrative, zealous American politicians, outsourcing opinions, patience for the poorly-informed, boundaries vs inclusivity, pedophilia, Bad Law, medical scandals, and Tunnock’s Teacakes. Plus, Corrrrrri changes his name, and Nina writes a scathing Letter to the Editor. Who’s the queerest of them all? Listen and find out!


Links:

Bev on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BevJacksonAuth

Bev’s email: bev.jackson@lgballiance.org.uk

LGBA website: https://lgballiance.org.uk

Tribunal Transcript (Mermaids vs Charity Commission & LGBA): https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

LGBA conference: https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

John Boyne apologizes to Graham Linehan: https://twitter.com/JohnBoyneBooks/status/1698830513077694477

Oct 24, 202301:22:34
The Darkest Humor
Oct 13, 202301:22:23
The Art of Dissident Feminists with J Berns

The Art of Dissident Feminists with J Berns

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists is the world’s first and only “TERF” Art show, featuring 14 female artists, all of whom have been canceled due to gender ideology. Its curator and organizer is J. Berns, an activist, mother, art lover, and upstanding badass. She talks about how her gallery was vandalized the day after the show’s successful opening; the difficulties of living in the Bay Area if you hold gender critical views; TERF money; ways women are not allowed their own language; how terrorists increasingly dictate speech; and hot pink blood. Wait until the end for her descriptions of the amazing works in the show, which runs until October 15 in San Francisco, and could even come to a city near you if you help make it happen!

Links:

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists https://www.accelerationspace.org/

Vandalism of the art show, posted by the vandals themselves: https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2023/09/17/18858974.php

Women Are Real: https://womenarereal.org/

On Twitter: https://twitter.com/WomenAreReals

WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

Roisin Murphy - Hit Parade: https://roisinmurphy.bandcamp.com/album/hit-parade

Indiegogo cancels Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/

Our Grace Lavery episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

Our Kikomi episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-55-biotrans-with-kikomi/

Genspect’s conference in Denver: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

Oct 05, 202301:18:48
Taking The Weird Path with Saya Hillman

Taking The Weird Path with Saya Hillman

Back when this podcast had only 4 listeners, Debbie Hillman of foodfarmsdemocracy.net was one of them. Debbie passed away in March, after which Corinna discovered a 2014 tribute video by her daughter. An interesting character in her own right, Saya Hillman joins the Dorx to talk about her mom, our moms, moms in general, dads, families, estrangement, growing up weird, adulting, fun, entrepreneurship, cleaning, pocket knives, making friends as an adult, silver linings, excess backups, old age, death, and living a fearless life. Learn about a fascinating daughter, a fascinating mother, and, most importantly, that dishwashers have filters that need to be cleaned. 

Links:

Saya Hillman reads “If Only My Name Was Alexis”: https://youtu.be/oxijkP9tpAU?si=zHOFkad9yeVABcxS

Mac and Cheese Productions: https://macncheeseproductions.com/

Debbie Hillman's memorial page: https://macncheeseproductions.com/debbie-hillman/

Debbie Hillman’s twitter account: https://twitter.com/DLHillman

Seder-Masochism (featuring Nina’s Dad): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Does Sex Matter? Gender Identity vs Material Reality, our 2019 panel talk Debbie attended (we think): https://youtu.be/RguD61siLB8?si=4LpIn_zENirTxb49

Sep 21, 202301:15:20
Listener Questions!

Listener Questions!

Corinna and Nina answer your important questions, such as: what is a feminist? Should we be cheerful instead of angry? Who cuts our hair? Boxers or briefs? Is “cis” a slur? We also discuss the TERF-Tranny spectrum; our origins in a state fair livestock exhibit; the social benefits of taboos; Republicans' ability to eff up a sure thing; how social contagions are a force of nature; The Law of Conservation of Evil; iatrogenic infantilization; masculinized women; how 2nd-Wave Feminism is like broccoli; and Corinna’s plans to start microdosing testosterone. It’s truly a broad-ranging conversation, as we cover more territory than a costumed llama!

Links:

Anger is like Rocket Fuel: https://mimiandeunice.com/2010/07/29/rocket-fuel/

Maybe One by Bill McKibben: https://billmckibben.com/maybe-one.html

Twitter poll: Makeup or Hijab?: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1691882332871885285

Beauty and Misogyny by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Jeffreys_Beauty_and_Misogyny_Harmful_Cultural_Practices_in_the_West__Women_and_Psychology_1.pdf

Aug 28, 202301:08:56
Left Wing Heresy with Lisa Selin Davis

Left Wing Heresy with Lisa Selin Davis

Prolific writer, researcher, thinker, and close personal friend of the Dorx Lisa Selin Davis is an old-school Leftist who developed an “exciting new interest in reality,” subsequently putting her on the wrong side of many a Brooklyn dinner party. We ask: What does it mean to be on the Left? What is Feminism? Do Gender Critics engage in “hugboxing"? How does one remain curious and empathetic while talking to ignorant a-holes? Do Conservative women give fewer effs? Is Corinna wearing “woman-pit”? What is Lisa’s next book about? It’s a party in the rabbit hole as 3 disagreeable friends agree on just about everything.


Links:

Housewife: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/p/its-time-to-pre-order-my-new-book

Skokie (film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skokie_(film)

BROADview: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/

Lisa on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LisaSelinDavis

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

Aug 23, 202301:15:50
Heather Brunskell-Evans is (a) TERF*

Heather Brunskell-Evans is (a) TERF*

The delightful and accomplished Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans joins the Dorx on short notice, first to talk about her work with Women’s Declaration International and Transgender Trend, then about her exhaustion with all manner of ideological nonsense, be it from trans rights activists or her “sisters” on the left. Purity spirals, tribal instincts, toxic agreeableness, Munchausen’s mums, disappointments, growing up female, Satan, misogyny, losing faith, and more keep her dancing between fed-up boredom and fierce determination. She may be Tired, but she will keep Explaining Reality until the F***wits listen up!


*TERF: Tired of Explaining Reality to F***wits


Links:

Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans: https://www.transgendertrend.com/dr-heather-brunskell-evans/

Women’s Declaration International: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/

Transgender Trend: https://www.transgendertrend.com/

Keira Bell case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_v_Tavistock

Pride flags on UK hospitals: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/05/giant-pride-flag-painted-on-hospital-criticised/

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

Aug 15, 202301:22:18
How the Internet Lost its Backbone, with Joshua Moon

How the Internet Lost its Backbone, with Joshua Moon

In 1993 John Gilmore famously said, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” To learn why that’s no longer true, listen to Josh Moon enumerate “the amount of things that have broken that people in the industry assumed could never break,” as activists with personal vendettas and political agendas relentlessly employ every possible strategy to silence his small but notorious gossip site Kiwi Farms. From Cloudflare to Hurricane Electric, ISPs, data centers, and payment processors, literally anything up and down the Border Gateway Protocol has been targeted to shut down the 'Farms. With ISIS, the KKK, Stormfront, neo-nazis, and child porn all continuing to enjoy online services, who expected “the gossip site that makes fun of troons" to be the straw to break the Internet's backbone? And why have the individuals and organizations who once stood against censorship lost their own?


Links:

Brave browser: https://brave.com/

Tor browser: https://www.torproject.org/download/

Keffals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffals

The World Should Not Need Kiwi Farms by Corinna Cohn: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Liz Fong Jones calls Corinna a “Kiwi Farms operative”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9erdnM4l8&t=3074s&ab_channel=LizFong-Jones

Border Gateway Protocol (BGP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol

Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://www.eff.org/

Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

Copyright’s origins in censorship: https://questioncopyright.org/promise

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

Aug 03, 202301:07:06
Corinna & Nina talk ICONS

Corinna & Nina talk ICONS

The Dorx do a quick review of the 2023 ICONS International Women's Sports Summit in Denver, among whose speakers were many former Heterodorx guests like Carole Hooven, Colin Wright, Helen Joyce, Kara Dansky, and Kim Jones; plus Suzanne Vierling, Dina McMillan, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, and countless other badass women, including tall otherworldly young athletes, elder Olympic champions, lawyers, writers, policy-makers, conservatives, liberals, and spectral beings. There were even some men, like Jon Pike⁠, ⁠Ross Tucker⁠, Corinna, and at least one cute security guy. The theme was WINNING, and we're going to, just like Nina wins an argument with Corinna about whether the elite professional-managerial class constitutes an "orthodoxy." It is what's best in life!


ICONS website (currently featuring videos from the 3-day Summit): https://www.iconswomen.com/

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

N.W.H.: F*ck the Security Guards: https://youtu.be/6LjW6j56ZgI

Elaine Miller at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1684893485902565378

Donate via Nina’s blog (upper right hand corner): https://blog.ninapaley.com/

Jul 28, 202341:20
Pediatric Disenchantment with Julia Mason, MD

Pediatric Disenchantment with Julia Mason, MD

Julia Mason is a practicing pediatrician, a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and a founding member of the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine (SEGM). A politically homeless, feline-affirming, bleeding-heart liberal who wants to pause pediatric transition, Mason raises grave concerns about the “affirmation model” which locks in adolescent identities at a time kids cycle through them as part of growing up. We learn the AAP actively suppresses internal dissent while profiting from corporate endorsements; that there are no empirical criteria for identifying which kids are “actually” trans; that small children believe whatever adults - especially their parents - tell them; and that Corinna is drinking a lot of electrolytes. 


Links:

Wheaton Labs: https://wheaton-labs.com/

Julia Mason on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JuliaMasonMD1

SEGM, the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine https://segm.org/

Reconsidering Informed Consent: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35300570/

The Myth of “Reliable Research”: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36593754/

Gender doctor praises Leelah Alcorn “boldly” committing suicide: https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/leader-of-alabama-gender-clinic-praises

Jul 20, 202301:15:12
To Speak or Not to Speak? with Olivia
Jul 06, 202301:01:04
Doin’ the 12-Step with Ben Appel

Doin’ the 12-Step with Ben Appel

Returning sexy guest Ben Appel recently wrote about genderism and other political ideologies infiltrating Alcoholics Anonymous, despite its 10th Tradition prohibiting alignment with outside issues. But what is a “Tradition” anyway? Ben and Nina possibly violate the 11th one (“always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films”) in an attempt to describe the wacky, brilliant, not-really-a-cult-except-sometimes, life-changing, spiritual, occasionally smelly world of 12-Step recovery programs. Corinna learns the difference between AA and Al-Anon; Nina wishes she believed in god and says “irrational problems demand irrational solutions”; and Ben talks about compulsive praying and his upcoming book, “Cis White Gay,” along with a ton of other interesting topics. Another great episode! Keep coming back! 


Links:


Ben Appel: https://www.benappelwrites.com/writing

How Alcoholics Anonymous Lost Its Way by Ben Appel: https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-alcoholics-anonymous-lost-its-way/

Our Wilfred Reilly episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

AA’s 12 Traditions: https://www.aa.org/the-twelve-traditions

Synanon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon

Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/

Al-Anon: https://al-anon.org/

The Serenity Prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

Nina’s Adventures book: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/ninas-adventures-book/

Jun 29, 202301:22:23
Gender of Champions with Kim Jones

Gender of Champions with Kim Jones

Kim Jones is a co-founder of ICONS, the International Council On WomeN’s Sports. A former college athlete whose daughter had to compete against Lia Thomas, Jones intelligently and passionately articulates why “sports are the public arena of the difference of the sexes,” and how gaslighting  girls in the spotlight sends a harrowing message to all women. We also discuss the inversion of the word “inclusion,” the slipperiness of the word “gender,” men undressing next to strange girls, the importance of speaking your mind, Corinna's fanciful claims of doing Nina's yard work, Title IX, women who advocate male dominance, and more.


ICONS Women’s Sports Summit, Denver July 21-23 (the Dorx will be there!): https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-conference-registration/

Jun 24, 202301:42:13
Open Wounds
Jun 05, 202356:39
Alasdair Gunn: It’s Fun To Play Scrabble With A Linguist

Alasdair Gunn: It’s Fun To Play Scrabble With A Linguist

Vice Director of Genspect Alasdair Gunn (nee Angus Fox) rejoins the Dorx to recap Killarney’s Bigger Picture conference, compare European and US approaches to gender issues, and update us on his health. Soon Corinna is pushing exogenous estrogen on Nina, who just wants to settle down with a female housemate despite being recently named a Scarlet Whore. Other major themes include menopause, burly Irish asphalt workers, tarot cards, and repeated threats by Corinna to edit all this out. It’s the quality content our firefighting, tree-felling, cooking and cleaning listeners expect!


Links:

Shawn Thierry’s Texas speech: https://twitter.com/lukemaciastx/status/1657213918048034817

IMPRO by Keith Johnstone: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-KIkLrSPi_3lzPl5v

GENDER WARS Playing Cards which can totally also be used for Tarot-style divination: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

May 25, 202301:16:52
Ask an Autogynephile! with Phil Illy

Ask an Autogynephile! with Phil Illy

Most autogynephiles — men sexually aroused by impersonating, embodying, or identifying as women — are so deeply ashamed of their condition they deny its existence. Phil Illy is a rare exception whose acceptance and curiosity led him to research and write a book on the topic. We discuss attraction to others (“allosexuality”) vs attraction to embodied states or oneself (“autosexuality”); the narcissism of falling in love; “meta-sexuality”; gender-based vs. sex-based attraction; autism as identity; pillow queens; Corinna’s boobs; Bronies; paranormal romance novels; pseudobisexuality; and autozoophilic trans turtles. After all our somewhat explicit talk about sex, we conclude it continues to be real, people continue to be weird, and everyone needs to CHILL OUT. 


Links:


Autoheterosexuality by Phil Illy:  autohetbook.com

Phil Illy's Substack: phililly.substack.com

Phil on Twitter: @autogynephilic

May 17, 202301:32:17
The Heterodorx get Blocked and Reported with Katie Herzog and Jessie Singal

The Heterodorx get Blocked and Reported with Katie Herzog and Jessie Singal

For our celebratory 100th episode, podcasting role-models Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal join the Dorx as special guest audio engineers. Except Corinna’s been so busy testifying for “anti-trans" bills around the country, and Nina’s been so sick with COVID, that we only made it to episode 98. Nonetheless, we cover gender wars, egregious reporting, backlashes, Drag Queen story hours, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the Minority Stress Model, men in women’s sports, persecution complexes, Twitter, Substack, pizzas, Katie’s goddess-like spouse, Nina’s “butch energy,” safety pins, and pronouns, learning that in spite of a few irreconcilable differences, all agree that “they” is a terrible choice for individuals.


Links:

Katie & Jesse's podcast: https://www.blockedandreported.org/

Riley Gaines at San Francisco State University: https://www.thefire.org/news/protestors-chased-down-riley-gaines-after-her-campus-speech-sfsu-says-its-proud-events

Posie Parker in New Zealand: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2023/03/25/kellie-jay-keen-is-attacked-and-mobbed-by-trans-activists-in-new-zealand/

Nina’s GiveSendGo: https://www.givesendgo.com/apocalypseanimated

Apr 27, 202301:07:59
Incorrigible? with Zander Keig

Incorrigible? with Zander Keig

From anti-social teenage lesbian drop-out, to Coast Guardsman, to seminarian, to licensed clinical social worker, ⁠Zander Keig⁠ has led a singular life. Like Corinna, Zander is an old-school transsexual, but the culture has changed since the (not actually) halcyon tranny days of yore. Recently, Zander went from being WPATH Educator of the Year to becoming the subject of an ethics complaint and an underhanded cancel campaign — for committing the unforgivable sin of advising the Gender Dysphoria Alliance. Keig’s equanimity stands out even more than the fascinating, insightful, and occasionally harrowing stories on this episode. 


Links:

Zander Keig’s website: https://www.zanderkeig.net/

Gender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/

Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism: https://www.fairforall.org/

Apr 22, 202301:31:10
Therapy Talk with James Esses

Therapy Talk with James Esses

Mild-mannered therapist-in-training James Esses was expelled from his university after expressing concerns about child safeguarding in relation to gender transition. Now he's fighting for his day in court. Focusing on "positive change in society," he fills in the Dorx on the whole story, and discusses the therapy industry, speaking out, cancel culture’s reign of terror, a variety of delusions, and the importance of acknowledging Reality for mental health. 


Links:

James Esses’s Legal crowdfunder: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/expelled-university-free-speech/

James Esses on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamesEsses

Apr 06, 202301:10:45
Speaking and Thinking with Helen Joyce

Speaking and Thinking with Helen Joyce

Helen Joyce is a journalist, former writer and editor at The Economist, and author of TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality. She joins the Dorx to discuss what is and is not Worthy Of Respect In A Democratic Society, the importance of free speech to free thought, the stupefaction of political polarization, differences between TERF Island and the USA, Left-wing “discipline,” splits in the gender-critical movement, and more. Nina is such a drooling fangirl she barely flinches when her work is compared to painted stones and crocheted vulvas, and Corinna asks refreshing questions.

Links:

Website: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/

Twitter @HJoyceGender

TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/trans-news-and-reviews/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

Compliance Comix: https://www.heterodorx.com/compliancecomix/

Mar 14, 202301:23:11
The CAIS Files

The CAIS Files

Fetishized, minimized, and co-opted: Is it an identity? A “gotcha”? A political football? Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS) is in fact a serious medical condition, vanishingly rare yet disproportionately discussed by everyone with an agenda in the gender wars. Jo, a.k.a. CAIS Files, is a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, adoptive mother, and adult with CAIS, who eloquently sets the record straight on what Disorders of Sexual Development (DSDs) are and are not. Just like sex is a material reality rather than a feeling in a fantasist's head, so are the numerous conditions (mis)labeled "intersex". Enjoy the edifying wisdom and common sense of this long-overdue, much-anticipated episode.

Links:

CAIS files on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CAIS_Files

The Dreger-Wright debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

DSD Families: https://www.dsdfamilies.org/charity

Differently Normal blog: https://differently-normal.com/blog-2/

Mar 05, 202301:10:27
How to Speak, How to Listen, and How to Comply

How to Speak, How to Listen, and How to Comply

Corinna has been VERY BUSY speaking out against medically harming children or in favor of genocide (depending), including delivering this excellent 3-minute testimony supporting Indiana SB 480. Nina grapples with the Kafkaesque nightmare that is Indiegogo. Corinna encounters some activists from Planned Parenthood giving free advice on “blocking that legal stuff.” We’ve missed posting podcasts regularly; between all the travel, testifying, day job (Corinna) and weeping in despair (Nina), we just haven’t had time. So please enjoy this unedited quickie we recorded this morning.

Links:

Corinna’s testimony for Indiana SB 480: https://youtu.be/wYhMejWA_zg

FOX59 news coverage of that same session: https://youtu.be/P_nP-bVyfMQ

How to Speak, How to Listen by Mortimer J. Adler: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Speak-How-to-Listen/Mortimer-J-Adler/9780684846477

Compliance Comix: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/compliance-comix/

Agents of H.A.G.: https://www.heterodorx.com/hag/

The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-witch-trials-of-jk-rowling

Feb 25, 202354:01
The View from Canada with Stuart Parker

The View from Canada with Stuart Parker

Canada, which National Lampoon once called “The Retarded Giant on Your Doorstep,” is just as affectionately known today as “Tranada.” It’s also the home of lifelong leftist, environmentalist, activist, prolific writer, and shape-shifting space lizard Stuart Parker. A former child-star-activist à la Greta Thunberg, Parker tells all about Canadian eugenics programs, Wallace Wong, “supportive housing”, the post-political era, Big Pharma, liberal nationalism, multi-culturalism, TERF blacklists, Morgane Oger, the role of mascot enforcer, total social immunity, getting canceled, and more. The Dorx are frequently shocked, and not just because Parker’s sarcasm surpasses Corinna’s.

Links:

Stuart Parker on Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuartlosaltos

Parker's website: http://stuartparker.ca/

Los Altos Institute: https://www.losaltos.ca/


Feb 08, 202301:06:30
No-Makeup Tips with Holly Lawford-Smith

No-Makeup Tips with Holly Lawford-Smith

Nina is both lazy and unafraid to look bad, as she fails to prepare a proper intro for magnificent political philosopher, author, and Quillette columnist Dr. Holly Lawford-Smith. Those same qualities are why Nina doesn’t wear makeup; Lawford-Smith shares some of her own. Even token tranny Corinna has some no-makeup tips, such as waiting 5-7 years between applications. Then Lawford-Smith answers, and asks, some profound questions: Is makeup attractive, or a signal of compliance? What counts as philosophy? Is long hair radfem? What is Gender Critical Feminism? Does bullshit emanate from the Anglosphere, or from France? Is buying sex wrong? Prepare to be dazzled by beauty, intelligence, and humor that are anything but skin-deep.

Links:

https://hollylawford-smith.org/

https://quillette.com/author/holly-lawford-smith/

https://twitter.com/aytchellesse

Books: https://hollylawford-smith.org/books/

The Radical Notion: https://theradicalnotion.org/

Nina’s twitter makeup polls: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613321903846068225

and https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613540702356471808

Feb 03, 202301:25:12
Elaine Miller: Behind the Merkin

Elaine Miller: Behind the Merkin

Elaine Miller is a pelvic physiotherapist, award-winning comedic performer, women’s rights campaigner, and now Edinburgh council candidate. She recounts how she became the infamous “Holyrood Flasher,” scandalized her children, and taught much of the ignorant world what a merkin is. She also discusses why male people cannot have periods, “gender difference,” comedy, fetishes, organ transplants, incontinence, the Bristol Stool Chart, bumholes, and much more. All in a lovely Scottish accent that melts the hearts of Amerkins like Corinna, who has NO REGRETS, and Nina, who reveals some very personal lady issues and clenches her Kegels through the entire interview.


Links:

Elaine’s web site: gussetgrippers.co.uk

Twitter: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips

The Naked Athena of Portland: https://www.artdealerstreet.com/single-post/2020/08/21/the-vulnerable-warrior-of-portland

Dave Chappelle’s show The Closer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closer_(2021_film)

Bristol stool chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

Tampax sponsors Dylan Mulvaney: https://www.newsweek.com/boycott-tampax-trends-company-slammed-trans-sponsors-1761556

Merkin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

'Flashing' feminist Elaine Miller to stand in Edinburgh council by-election: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/flashing-feminist-elaine-miller-stand-29057411

Jan 28, 202301:14:24
Dialing Down the Misanthropy with Heather Heying

Dialing Down the Misanthropy with Heather Heying

Evolutionary biologist, former Evergreen college professor, Dark Horse podcaster, and author Heather Heying shares her thoughts on academia. We learn Heying is the daughter of a university math professor, like Nina. Corinna then nudges the two faculty spawn into a lively argument about just how much women submit to men, and whether social conditioning or biology are the cause. Plus, utopianism and its discontents, social stratification, consuming junk, environmental issues, and why life is too short to eat lousy chocolate.

Links:

Heather Heying’s web site: https://www.heatherheying.com/

Heying’s Substack: https://naturalselections.substack.com/

Heying on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying

Dark Horse Podcast: https://www.bretweinstein.net/darkhorse-podcast

A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://www.huntergatherersguide.com/

On resigning from the Board of the University of Austin: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/uatxresignation

Jan 20, 202301:14:15
Circling the Rhetorical Drain with Alex Byrne and Carole Hooven

Circling the Rhetorical Drain with Alex Byrne and Carole Hooven

Why do debates about trans rights always get sucked into arguments about Disorders of Sexual Development? Philosophy professor Alex Byrne and Biology professor Carole Hooven join the Dorx for some “Monday night quarterbacking” on the Dreger-Wright debate. But first, Carole and Nina compare notes on hysterectomies, oopherctomies, and menopause. Then it’s on to why “bullshit” shouldn’t replace facts even to be “nice,” what “sex is real” actually means, the red herring of DSDs, how the humanities suffer from “science envy,” luxury beliefs, why allies ruin everything, and more. Nina ends it on a happy note: the impending extinction of everything.

Links:

Maggie Chapman replaces facts with bullshit: https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1605929587220676609

Carole Hooven tweets about C/AIS (over)representation in sports: https://twitter.com/hoovlet/status/1604137509805428736

Alex Byrne: https://philosophy.mit.edu/byrne/

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

The Dreger-Wright Debate: https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

Jan 13, 202301:26:46
Nina Gets Canceled (Again) & Corinna Predicts the Future

Nina Gets Canceled (Again) & Corinna Predicts the Future

After raising 150% of her goal on IndieGoGo, the crowdfunding platform cancels Nina’s first comic book in 30 years, Agents of H.A.G.. Money, funders, orders — all gone, 2 days after the 2-week campaign ended. Meanwhile, Corinna observes fissures between Gender Critical factions widening into increasingly insurmountable chasms. The future looks dystopian, and so does the present!

Jan 06, 202337:38
Alice Dreger vs. Colin Wright

Alice Dreger vs. Colin Wright

This very non-representative episode of Heterodorx is the recording of the formal, timed debate between Alice Dreger and Colin Wright, which was held live Monday December 7 2022. They set out to resolve the claim, “Biological sex is real, immutable, and binary.” Did they succeed? Listen and decide for yourself! 

Dreger-Wright debate on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

Dec 17, 202201:04:32
Good Trans, Bad Trans with Katy Montgomerie

Good Trans, Bad Trans with Katy Montgomerie

After some small talk about the holidays, trans YouTuber, activist, and social media bon vivant Katy Montgomerie cheerfully and calmly explains how Gender Criticals aren’t feminist, believe in sexed souls, advocate for the elimination of trans people, and want to ruin Katy’s life. Unlike the sucking-up-to-the-oppressor trans friends of JK Rowling — whom Katy claims is openly hostile to trans people — Katy is NOT “one of the good ones.” Katy is, however, a good sport, and clearly elucidates a set of moral and policy positions. Good or bad? Listen and decide for yourself!

Links:

Katy Montgomerie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie

website: https://katymontgomerie.com/

Adult Human Weirdo T-shirts: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/adult-human-weirdo

T: The Story of Testosterone by Carole Hooven: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250236067/tthestoryoftestosteronethehormonethatdominatesanddividesus

The Dreger-Wright debate (December 12 2022): https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

Dec 08, 202201:16:42
Gays Against Groomers with Michael

Gays Against Groomers with Michael

Michael (first name only) talks about Gays Against Groomers, a non-profit non-partisan gay rights organization opposing the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of children. What is grooming? What’s the difference between “gay” and LGBTQ++? Is there porn in school libraries? Michael didn’t grow up in the same world as Corinna or Nina (who is as old as his mom), and we discover a generation gap in experience and activism. But despite our differences, there’s one thing we all agree on: “eunuchs are hot.”

Gays Against Groomers: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

GAG on Twitter: https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs

Gender Care Consumer Advocacy Network: https://www.gccan.org/

Julie Bindel Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-81-julie-bindel-defines-feminism/

Image of adults protecting children from a rainbow: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/event-details/protect-the-children-rally


Nov 30, 202247:06
Ask A Marxist! with Ben Burgis

Ask A Marxist! with Ben Burgis

After Corinna takes a confusing online class, the Dorx ask author, professor, podcaster, and Marxist Ben Burgis what the heck “Transgender Marxism” is. Also: what do Conservatives conserve? Is “transgender” a class? What is social reproduction, and who does it? Does Ben draw a distinction between gender and sex? Why have Nina’s efforts to genocide Corinna via misgendering continually failed? Is “hate speech” Free Speech? Can every cook govern? This episode is a class in itself.


Ben Burgis’s Give Them An Argument podcast, Slavoj Žižek episode - https://youtu.be/Xnmz_aLrEUM

Ben Burgis at Jacobin magazine - https://jacobin.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis at Daily Beast - https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis on Twitter - https://twitter.com/BenBurgis

Transgender Marxism - https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/

Heterodorx Helen Dale episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-80-the-we-hate-hate-speech-speech-with-helen-dale/

Heterodorx Wilfred Reilly episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

Heterodorx Buck Angel episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-77-gimme-that-old-time-transsexualism-with-buck-angel/

Nov 26, 202201:14:50
Hoaxes, Wokeses, and Other Folkses with Wilfred Reilly
Nov 17, 202201:24:22
Julie Bindel Defines Feminism

Julie Bindel Defines Feminism

What is a feminist? Journalist, author, and English badass Julie Bindel has opinions, informed by decades of work in the Women’s Liberation movement. We discuss women who aren’t feminists being mistaken for feminists, women denouncing feminism, far-right incursions into feminism, male protectionism, Political Lesbianism, kicking men in the nuts, separatism, homosexuality, butch-femme nonsense, bodyguards, Patriarchy, incels, and fake leftist men. Bindel passionately, intelligently, and articulately voices a Feminist position that will satisfy supporters, while supplying substance and heft for detractors to push against.


Julie Bindel’s Substack: https://juliebindel.substack.com/

Julie Bindel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bindelj

Andrea Dworkin - Right Wing Women: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-1983.pdf

The Lesbian Heresy by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.spinifexpress.com.au/backlist/p/9781875559176

FILIA: https://www.filia.org.uk/

Nov 10, 202201:01:28
The We Hate Hate Speech Speech with Helen Dale

The We Hate Hate Speech Speech with Helen Dale

Classical Liberal, celebrated author, retired lawyer, and Smart Person Helen Dale regales the Dorx with a history of "hate speech", citing Marbury vs. Madison, the Allport Scale, John Stuart Mill, entrenched judicial review, decolonization and anti-colonization movements, the pernicious influence of the Soviet Union, and COMMIE NONSENSE. Nina interrupts her a few times to discuss the incitement of mobs, Kellie-Jay Keene’s US tour, and why Dale thinks feminism is “mad.” After a short vape break, Dale returns to Liberal Toryism, freedom of association, Hadrian’s Rescript, loos in developing countries, “non-crime hate incidents” in the UK, the marketplace of ideas, and why “lobbyists are bonkers”. Can the Law save humanity from itself? Listen up and pay attention, because Dale’s citations fly faster than the pages of a thrown encyclopedia.


A Mere Sampling of Links:

Helen Dale on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Helen-Dale/e/B001K82V2G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Helen Dale on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_helendale

Law & Liberty: https://lawliberty.org/author/helen-dale/

Louise Perry: https://www.louisemperry.co.uk/

The Secret of Our Success: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691178431/the-secret-of-our-success

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights

FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression: https://www.thefire.org/

Nov 04, 202201:17:39