
Hyde or Practise
By Hyde or Practise
Alexis Hyde and Erika Wong interview people from every facet of the Art World, from artists and gallerists to reporters and lawyers to educators and tax experts, to give you a more complete view of how vast and nuanced the Art World is.

S 6 Ep 10: How do sales commissions or finders fees work?
A lot of questions coming in for how art advisors or dealers work, how they make money, what's appropriate finders fees for getting gigs from recommendations and we decided to do a break down explainer! ENJOY!
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
27:46
February 03, 2023

S6 Ep 9: Jupiter Contemporary Founder/Director Gabriel Kilongo
It's impossible to find a place to start when you're trying to describe a conversation with Gabriel Kilongo - the Founder and Director of Miami's hottest gallery, Jupiter Contemporary. Geographically his story starts in the Democratic Republic of Congo and career wise it is in the kitchen of Brice Marden's studio washing dishes. Don't believe us? Take a listen to hear this incredible journey where Kilongo reminds us that diligence, hard work, networking, good taste and perseverance can get you where you want to go - and that the experience you get along the way will serve you more than you know in your future!
GABE RECOMMENDS:
Watching: The Watcher, The White Lotus
Reading: A Visible Man: A Memoir by Edward Enninful
Listening: Nicolas Jaar
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Gabriel Kilongo - @jupitercontemporary, jupitercontemporary.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
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If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
45:55
January 24, 2023

S6 Ep8: What is an Art Fair?
Everyone is pretty familiar with the difference between a gallery and a museum, but where do art fairs fit in? With everyone in Miami (at the time of recording) Erika and Alexis decided to break it down - what is an art fair? Who goes? Who participates? And why are people flying all over the world and spending quite a bit of money to do it?
REFERENCED:
Hyde or Practise: Verona Zheng, Art Basel's Global VIP Manager
Hyde or Practise: Daniel Cheng, Chambers Fine Art
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
25:59
December 02, 2022

S6 Ep 7: What Surprised You Most About The Art World?
This is a fresh upload- sorry our last one was reported wonky!
Our hosts Alexis and Erika talk about what surprised them most about entering into the art world, the importance of soft skills, the difficulties in networking when you're an introvert, and training yourself to engage anyway!
ERIKA RECOMMENDS:
Algebra of Happiness by Scott Galloway
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
40:35
December 01, 2022

S6 Ep 6: Artist Mira Dancy Interview
Mira Dancy, an incredible artist based in LA, just opened a show at Night Gallery and took the time to chat with us about SO MANY THINGS! We asked her about community and finding inputs and unpacking the male gaze and what did she think was going to be the THING to make her career, but turned out to not be? It is incredible! Enjoy!
MIRA RECOMMENDS:
Robert Thurman on Youtube
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Mira Dancy - Night Gallery, Chapter NY
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
40:38
October 12, 2022

S6: Mini Episode on Tools and Kindness
In the midst of back to school, and art world season starting up, and post panini life kicking back in - scheduling is tough! That's why Alexis and Erika will be doing a few mini episodes in between the longer form interviews to keep y'all updated and filled in with the latest and greatest!
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
14:08
September 27, 2022

S 6 Ep 5: Gallerist Liz Lidgett Interview!
When we first heard about Liz Lidgett and her gallery (Liz Lidgett Gallery) we emailed her so fast so we could pick her brain about representing emerging artists! She answered ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS! From "What does a gallery even do for an artist?" to the ever important "How do I show a gallery my work?" with incredible knowledge and detail! How do you network, can you do it on instagram, in person? ALL OF THESE ANSWERED! It's golden and so excited to share with you!
LIZ RECOMMENDS:
Nonfiction: 4000 Weeks
Fiction: Lessons in Chemistry
TV: Only Murders in the Building
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Liz Lidgett - @lizlidgett, @lizlidgettgallery, lizlidgett.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
46:05
September 09, 2022

S 6 Ep 4: Artist/Content Creator Brett Park (BrettPaint!) Interview!
=More questions about social media going in and we had to go to the source! Brett Park (AKA BRETTPAINT 500k followers on TikTok, NBD) talks about how he's balancing it all as a student, artist, and content creator across many platforms. What is natural, what's performative, how does he do it, and how LONG has he been doing it?! The 10-year overnight success thing is real y'all. He doles out incredible advice for artists, students, and aspiring content creators, it's so generous and wonderful! TUNE IN NOW!
BRETT RECOMMENDS:
Artist Sasha Gordon
Asking questions at galleries
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Brett Park -
TT: @BrettPaint, Insta @BrettPaint, YT @BrettPaint
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com S
lack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com Music by Alexander Rossi: alexanderrossi.me
40:46
September 02, 2022

Quick Update!
Sorry for the absence, life happens, next week we will be back to our regularly scheduled programming!
In the meantime if you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
00:53
August 26, 2022

S 6 Ep 3: The Art of Making It Producer Debi Wisch
Watching the trailer for the film, The Art of Making It, is like a trip into the FAQs hottest topic, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT?! Talking to Debi Wisch, we learned not only how she got into filmmaking, but what is interesting about this topic and why make this movie at all? Also, what did she learn making it (heh) and what can we learn from the swath of people they talked to - from artists like Jenna Gribbon to friend of the pod Stefan Simchowitz and internet sensation Jerry Gogosian! It's full of such great info for new and established artists and arts professionals alike!
STREAM THE ART OF MAKING IT NOW!
DEBI RECOMMENDS:
Film: My Old School
Listen: Pivot
Talking to: Liz Plank about upcoming film “Not So Special"
Book: Rituals Road Map
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Debi Wisch - @debiwisch, theartofmakingitfilm.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
41:10
July 27, 2022

S6 Ep2: Artist Marketing Consultant Alyssa Weyland
One of the #1 FAQs we get is "How do I market myself?" quickly followed by "How do I do social media?" so we went to the source! Alyssa Weyland is a freelance marketing consultant for ARTISTS! That is the specialty and the incredible info we get...it's so good! We go over the different platforms, how to adapt, mailing lists, conversion rates, even ads! No stone is left unturned and honestly, Alexis and Erika walked away with a few tips for their own social media engagements as well!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Book: Dostoyevsky The Devils
Pod: The Successful Artist Podcast
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alyssa Weyland - insta: @alyssaweyland.consulting tt: @alyssa.w.consulting
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
39:23
July 21, 2022

S6 Ep1: Content Creator and Artist Sara Alawadhi
Listen in real time as Alexis has her mind blown when Sara Alawadhi, aka @goldendinars on TikTok >75k followers, tells her she is only 17! Erika and Alexis both found her the usual way on TT - via the FYP page - and love her combination art, memes, art history, book reviews, and tutorials! Her wide-range approach has garnered her over 5.4 Billion (WITH A B!) views! We go over how she got started and advice for anyone who needs help getting started on social media! It's incredibly generous and thorough and you will also be surprised that she is only 17! She is wise and poised beyond her years and the advice is evergreen! Enjoy!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Shows: Peaky Blinders, Stranger Things
Podcast: Modern Art Notes
Book: Seeing is forgetting the name of the thing one sees by Lawrence Weschler
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sara Alawadhi: tt: @goldendinars, insta: @goldendinars
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
37:44
July 12, 2022

Re-release: Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Dept of Arts and Culture
Always a good time to talk about artists and activism, hence the re-release with the incredible Bronwyn Mauldin!
THIS WEEK! ALL CAPS! We talk with Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Department of Arts and Culture, who is also an artist and activist and writer and zine maker and all around woman of our hearts and dreams! We get into the impact of covid on LA's arts community, the economy, and more! Did y'all know that the arts and culture fields make up 8% of the GDP of CA? YOU DO NOW! Want to learn more incredible things like that to impress and stun your friends and family? OF COURSE YOU DO! Tune in!
BRONWYN REFS
Artists for Democracy
BRONWYN RECOMMENDS
The Beak of the Finch by Jonathan Weiner
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Bronwyn Mauldin: LA County Arts, bronwynmauldin.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
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42:46
June 28, 2022

Tik Tok Live
Erika and Alexis hosted a Tik Tok live and recorded it! Answered questions from the audience nd covered everything from unionizing and Gallery Emailing to "what if I'm an introvert?" and advocating for yourself as an artist through goal identification!
EPISODES REFERENCED
Dana Unions
Clara NFTs
Law, disrupted NFTs
Nicole Pilot Art List
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
45:39
June 10, 2022

Re-release: Hyperallergic Founder and EIC Hrag Vartanian!
One of our longer episodes, and every minute is FILLED TO THE BRIM!
Erika and Alexis talk to Hrag Vartanian, the founder and editor in chief of Hyperallergic. A continuation of our series on motivation, Hrag discusses journalism, the art world we need to be focusing on, why Hyperallergic exists, and who’s subsidizing who! We go through who got PPPs and Alexis’s Tumblr glory days. This is an instant classic. TUNE IN AND GAIN KNOWLEDGE! HRAG RECOMMENDS: Documentary: Manufacturing Consent (1992) Documentary: Camera Person (2016) LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Hrag Vartanian - @hragv, hyperallergic.com Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
01:10:08
May 31, 2022

Re-Release: Art trained Associate Marriage and Family Therapist (AMFT) Camille Bien interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Camille Bien. Trained as an installation artist, Camille used her arts education and became an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist. We talk about the traumas of art school, the endless "why's" in crits, and how we found coping mechanisms. Which incidentally is being part of a community and sharing our feelings. This is an INCREDIBLE episode for the times but also forever. How we make our choices and how we support ourselves is so critical and Camille brings amazing insight into these processes.
CAMILLE IS WATCHING:
Agents of Chaos
RESOURCES:
211
Dial 211 or 211.org
This is a comprehensive resource for local communities located in The United States and Canada. Resources include mental health services, emotional and domestic abuse, veterans, and many other services
National Alliance on Mental Health
Text 741741 Dial 1-800-950-6264 or nami.org
Association of over 500 affiliates who provide support and education about mental health. NAMI provides national resources for mental health needs
Mental Health America
mhanational.org
This site provides resources for various mental health needs at varying income levels
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Camille Bien- @lovehongmina
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
41:56
May 24, 2022

Re-Release: Detroit Art Week's Amani Olu!
BUCKLE UP GUYS THIS IS A GOOD ONE! We talk to Amani Olu, of Olu Company, IMG SRVR and Detroit Art Week and his advice on failure and hustling and money should not be ignored, I mean, look how many hats he wears! It's really incredible to talk to Olu about interacting with other humans in life and how that translates to our lives and where we can go with those experiences. We talk about what burns him up and how to get some inner peace on how to get past that! Gold guys, pure gold. TUNE IN NOW!
AMANI RECOMMENDS
Go Ahead in the Rain: Notes to a Tribe Called Quest by Hanif Abdurraqib
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Amani Olu - @amaniolu, @olucompany, Olu Company, IMG SRVR, Detroit Art Week
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
50:52
May 17, 2022

Re-Release: Collector/Dealer Stefan Simchowitz!
To honor Stefan's new space just opened in downtown LA - here is a refresher on who this man about town is!
Erika and Alexis talk to Los Angeles dealer/collector/man of many hats Stefan Simchowitz. Tune in and find out! A continuation of our series around motives and motivations! Why does Stefan do what he does and where does he think things are going? We talk about supporting artist, broken structures that lead to inequality and in his words "bad Simco mythology"!
Stefan recommends:
The Red Scare Podcast
Brad Troemel Instagram
The Deficit Myth by Stephanie Kelton
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Stefan Simchowitz - @stefansimchowitz, Simcos Club
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
59:10
May 09, 2022

Trailer: Season 6 FAQS!
ENTER YOUR BURNING FAQs HERE
Next season is all about answering your questions! Enter in the form above and we will find the guests to answer them the best!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Feedback: https://topractisepractice.com/research-sign-up/
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
01:22
April 29, 2022

S 5 Ep 14: Arts Journalist Reena Devi!
We actually recorded this episode with the incomparable Reena Devi back in Christmas 2020 but, the audio was misplaced! Reena is busy! We couldn't get her back! We mourned! THEN Alexis did some digital spring cleaning and found it - so here we go! In this INCREDIBLY nourishing episode, Reena talks about the importance of research, comprehensive context and why she is like the Hulk...but not in the way you think!
REENA REFERENCES:
Cobo Social
Hyperallergic: What an Art Fair in Jakarta Could Mean for the Southeast Asia Art Scene
The Ink: The Sacklers' Group Chat of Pain
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Reena Devi - Reena Devi Writes, @reena_meets_world
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
52:29
April 22, 2022

Re-Release: Artist/Educator Natasha Caruana!
No joke, Natasha changed the way Alexis approaches networking. A full shift in the way she looks and approaches it, she also has a THRIVING artist community on insta called @workshowgrow where resources and advice from artists and professionals ABOUND! Tune in!
NETWORKING! Erika and Alexis talk to Natasha Caruana, an incredible artist and educator out of London! Caruana has been utilizing the internet and her network for years and shares that experience with you! Her insight and advice is invaluable and she honestly changed the way Alexis views reaching out. She is also the reason Alexis and Erika met! Kismet! What could she do for you? Now is the time, no matter what line of work/passion you are in to gain some great tools!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Natasha Caruana - @natashacaruana @workshowgrow, natashacaruana.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:34
April 08, 2022

5.13: Nathalie Quagliotto of The Art List
Have you ever looked at those round ups of grants or residency or other artist opportunities and think "this isn't a lot of opportunities" or "these are all kind of whack"? So did Nathalie Quagliotto and she decided to do something about it! She started an email list (you can sign up here!) and puts together and sends out REGULARLY hundreds of opportunities, culled, curated, sifted, and color coded so everyone can see how many, where, and not a dud among them! It's an incredible service, she's an incredible human, and we are ALL VERY LUCKY that she decided to take this on for us! Listen in and FREAK OUT!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Nathalie Quagliotto - NathalieQuagliotto.com, @pilotartlist
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
48:19
April 01, 2022

Re-Release: Executive Director Sue Bell Yank!
The incomparable Sue Bell Yank has just started as the Executive Director of Clockshop, an arts and culture organization that seeks to generate social change through the transformation of public space. And while there is never a bad time to revisit this great convo, we couldn't think of a better one than now!
Erika and Alexis speak with Sue Bell Yank, Deputy Director of 18th Street Arts, formerly of OWN and the Hammer, and an all around awesome smart lady with very soothing voice. We talk about the importance of arts education from a young age, funding, civil projects, community engagement and LARPing. She also has an incredible podcast, Paved Paradise, about the history of housing disparity in Los Angeles that we discuss, and it's a treat to hear about the behind the scenes! This is an exceptionally inspiring one! I mean look below and bask in the RANGE!
SUE REFERENCED:
Lefebvre Right To The City
Hamburg Park Fiction
Minneapolis - Feminist Strip Club/Sex Workers Organizing Project
SUE RECOMMENDS:
Podcast: Imaginary Worlds
Podcast: Rude Tales of Magic
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sue Bell Yank - SueBellYank.com, PavedParadisePodcast.com, @clockshopla
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
46:09
March 25, 2022

5.12: Deputy Director of Exhibitions and Collections Paul Loya
This week we talk with Long Beach Museum's Paul Loya! He's a curator, with an incredible multifaceted history across LA and the US and it is so wonderful to pick his brain about all things art, museums, programming, curating for your community and more! We also really get into the power of just ONE exhibition that can change your life and how important it is to get kids into museums, how to consume as much art as efficiently as possible and how vital it is to take care of ourselves while maintaining necessary relationships! Tune in!!
PAUL REFERENCES:
Alfonso Gonzalez Jr
Diedrick Brackens
Jasper Johns to Jeff Koons: Four Decades of Art From The Broad Collection
Alex Gardner
Book: Chaos: Charles Manson, The CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
Filmage: The Story of Descendents/ALL
The Descendents
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Paul Loya - @paulloya, lbma.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
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Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
45:56
March 18, 2022

Re-Release: Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett, founder of Murk & Co, this week. Sarah is super generous with her knowledge! Going over what she does, what she looks for, what her clients look for and how to get your best foot through the door! We cover everything from references to resumes and professionalism to learning curves! What do you need to have prepared for your job search? Sarah tells us! Join us for a great episode full of incredible information and FUN HYPOTHETICALS! AND TAROT! Enjoy!!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS/GUESTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sarah Murkett - Murk & Co
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
40:11
March 04, 2022

5.11: Director of Education and Public Programs Melissa Lee!
We have an INCREDIBLE episode for you! Melissa Lee, Director of Education and Public Programs at Vancouver Art Gallery, is here to talk to us about all things programming during a pandemic, the difference between Hong Kong and Vancouver, cooking in the museum and what is a Social Practice Curator! What is that? We didn't know and we get into it, it's incredible!
MELISSA REFERENCES:
Carol Yinghua Lu
Rirkrit Tiravanija
Algorithms of Oppression by Safiya Noble
Fred Moten
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Melissa Lee - Vancouver Art Gallery , @VanArtGallery
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
42:13
February 25, 2022

Re-Release: Art Litigator Luke Nikas Interview!
ENCORE EPISODE! We get so many questions re: legal art stuff so we thought it was a good idea to release this ep with, no joke, one of the world's preeminent art ligitagors! Don't believe us? Google him.
Erika and Alexis speak with Luke Nikas, a partner at Quinn Emanuel's NY office and Co-Chair of the firm's Art Litigation and Disputes Practice. He takes us through the evolution of Art Litigation over the last 20 years and why it has exploded in the way it has. Also, what is litigation? What is litigatable?* What are your rights to your images and works as an artist and how can you protect yourself before and after the creation of your work? It's an INCREDIBLY educational episode regarding the tangential legal issues that surround the art world and everyone should listen, because it's more than either of the host's knew about and you're probably more protected than you thought. Bookmark this one, because if you don't need it now, you will in the future!
*Did Alexis make up the word litigatable? The autocorrect on this typing says no, but her enthusiasm in the episode says yes!
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Luke Nikas - Quinn Emanuel - Luke Nikas
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com
43:41
February 18, 2022

S5 Ep 10: Co-founder of The Honey Pump Suzana Poghosyan
Heads up, a few little audio glitches but that is the price to pay for podding on the internet! Thanks for your patience and understanding!
Suzana Poghosyan looked at the art world and thought, "some of this is broken", and instead of moving on decided to do something about it! She co-founded The Honey Pump, a visual arts agency that would connect artists with projects and they are making things happen. Trained as an artist and and arts admin (MFA during a pandemic, no bigs) and cutting her teeth in Leo Villareal's studio, who better to take on the art world? Literally no one if you ask us! Listen in for incredible inspiration and info on how to get going through struggles and taking on systemic problems head on!
SUZANA RECOMMENDS:
Lady Gaga - You just need that one person!
The Eyes of Tammy Faye
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Suzana Poghosyan - @thehoneypump_, @suzanapoghosyan
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
51:40
February 11, 2022

Re-Release: Interview with Artist and Disability Activist Sharona Franklin!
Strap in guys, we have an incredible interview with multimedia artist and disability activist Sharona Franklin! We'll get it out of the way and say yes, we do talk about how she (one artist, disabled body, in Canada) is taking on Gucci! We also talk about community, support, teachers, education in general, access and a whole mess of incredible topics. When you get to the end you'll see how we had to pull the cord b/c we could keep talking to her forever. She is frank and honest and smart and candid about the realities of her life and work and I (alexis) can guarantee listening to this will galvanize something in you for the better. Honestly. Also, Sharona is moving and as you'll hear everything is more difficult for her so if you have a few bucks you could throw her way, it would be much appreciated. RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS Y'ALL!
Donate to Sharona: paypal.me/starseeded
SHARONA RECOMMENDS:
Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
Married to Medicine
Real Housewives
The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sharona Franklin - @star_seeded, @paid.technologies, @hot.crip, @disabled_personals
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
01:04:49
February 04, 2022

S 5 Ep 9: Verona Zeng, Art Basel's Global VIP Manager
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Verona Zeng the Global VIP Manager from Art Basel! Fresh off Art Basel Miami, she generously shares with us the importance of pivoting and being nimble in the face of adjustments, the constant nature of the art fair business and how instagram impacts her mental health! A truly global participant in the art world, her perspective is invaluable and her introspection is aspirational!
VERONA RECOMMENDS:
Nature
Astrology
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Verona Zeng - @veronazeng, Art Basel
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
40:37
January 28, 2022

Re-release: Arts Professional Jane McCarthy Interview!
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Arts Professional Jane McCarthy and it is a PLEASURE! Jane has a Masters, has worked with museums, galleries, artists, now at UCLA, like...could you ask for a more well-rounded and seasoned interviewee to round out Season 3? It would be a TOUGH JOB! She is eloquent and her advice is SOUND and she is in Hawaii right now riding out the quarantimes so she obviously has incredible decision making skills! Seriously though, her wisdom for biz side of art is invaluable and honestly, this is a MUST LISTEN! OK, until next season!
JANE RECOMMENDS:
Book: Sharks in the Time of Saviors by Kawai Strong Washburn
Netflix: Lupin
Podcast: Works In Progress Podcast UCLA Arts
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jane McCarthy: @janepmc
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
37:28
January 21, 2022

S 5 Ep 8: Chambers Fine Art Daniel Chen Interview!
Daniel Chen, co-owner of Chambers Fine Art, spoke to Alexis and Erika about all things gallery/art/music in times of cov!d! Trained as a musician and owning a gallery gives Chen incredible insight into both sides of the art world: as a creator and the infrastructure for sales. The gallery had some interesting and productive changes and Daniel was able to have the time and space to make some great decisions about how he would be operating the gallery on the most fundamental levels going forward. Alexis may have convinced everyone to move to LA.
DAN REFERENCES:
Ai WeiWei 1000 Years of Joy and Sorrows
Twitter -NFT/Music
Nicole Atkins
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Daniel Chen - @Shaolun, Chambers Fine Art,
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
43:06
January 14, 2022

Re-release: Curator AJ Girard Interview!
This week we look back on our interview with curator AJ Girard! If you missed his debut exhibition Shattered Glass In LA or in Miami, don't worry! The New York Times covered it here!
Alexis and Erika spoke with curator AJ Girard this week about finding a place in the art world and what that means to him and how that journey is continuing. Why is it important to him to always be a student? What does he mean when he says "your perspective is perfect"? We are people worrying about other people forgetting Rembrandt? No one is forgetting Rembrandt! Tune in and EXPAND YOUR MIND! The generosity of his journey is definitely worth your time! Heads up - Alexis swears a lot in this one and we didn't beep it out!
AJ IS READING:
Black Futures by Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham
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AJ Girard - @_AJGirard
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
51:24
January 07, 2022

S 5 Ep 7: Political Theorist Cissie Fu!
This one is a little different for us, but the applicable thoughts Cissie Fu drops on us are the the types of gems we will be revisiting for years. Erika told Alexis Cissie is one of the smartest person she has ever met, and was she ever right! She goes over the learnings of covid and the processing And internalization and you know what...you have to listen b/c it’s honestly a disservice to try and blurb her.
CISSIE REFERENCES
CBC Radio 1
Book: The History of White People - Nell Irvin Painter
Museum of Anthropology -
On a New Years Eve - June Jordan
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
48:09
December 31, 2021

Re-Release: We interview Creative Accountant Nick Maynard!
It's time to start thinking about getting an accountant for your 2021 taxes so it's a GOOD TIME to have a refresher on what that can look like for you as an artist/creative!
We are hitting y'all up with some more EXCITING ACCOUNTING INFO! Why? Because you can never have enough, and that isn't an exaggeration. This week we talk to Nick Maynard, who founded We Are Practice, a full service accounting firm for creatives. When is the best time to start getting your finances together for your practice/business? 10 years ago. Second best time? TODAY! How do you do it? WELL DEAR LISTENERS NICK TELLS US! Like in detail. It's incredible. Money talk around creative practices is daunting and weird and we are trying to get y'all the info you need so you can be fully protected and funded to do YOUR THING! Listen in, it's more fun than it should be and Nick answers ALL of our hypotheticals. Also talks about how to find an accountant for you!
NICK RECOMMENDATIONS: Tom Hanks
Book: Dune by Frank Herbert
Music: Adrianne Lenker
Magazine: Courier
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Nick Maynard - @wearepractice, wearepractice.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS: Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
44:22
December 17, 2021

S5 Ep 6: The Elise Barclay Interview!
After a minor hiatus of Thanksgiving and NY Times hecticness - WE ARE BACK! Boy are we ever! We talk to Elise Barclay this week who not only curates a corporate collection (too cool) but also is a few hoops away from being a certified functional health coach and we get INTO IT! Alexis cries. In a good way, but like, we take it there! Our bodies and practices are all intertwined and it behooves us to treat it holistically and Elise is here to give us some tools and we are GRATEFUL! CAPSLOCK! EXCLAMATION POINTS!
ELISE REFERENCES
Tate Modern Anicka Yi Hyundai Commission
Book: Siblings Without Rivalry: How to Help Your Children Live Together So You Can Too by Adele Faber and Elaine Mazlish
Book: Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything by BJ Fogg
Book: Helping People Change: Coaching with Compassion for Lifelong Learning and Growth by Ellen Van Oosten, Melvin Smith, and Richard E Boyatzis
Book: Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Elise Barclay -@ebarcles
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:23
December 10, 2021

S 5 Ep 5: The Hall Rockefeller Interview!
Y'ALL!!! We chatted with the incredible Hall Rockefeller, founder of Less Than Half, about expanding our knowledge, learnings from COVID times, and confidently pivoting! We all know how hard it is to get going on a project only to find something new and think "Oh no, do I have to change direction?" well, that is a feeling Rockefeller knows ALL TOO WELL, and she navigates them not only with confidence, but EXCITED! Join us as we dive in to learn more of that magic so we can swerve with verve too!
HALL REFERENCES
Linda Nochlin
String, Felt, Thread
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Hall Rockefeller - @all.the.lady.artists , lessthanhalf.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
39:49
November 12, 2021

Season 3 Episode 7: Public Relations Maven Jessie Cohen Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with PR wiz Jessie Cohen about how PR works in the arts/creative industries! What does it mean to be resilient, can you become more resilient (spoiler alert: yes!), how to pitch your projects and how to write an email! Understanding the big, bad, media machine we are all working around or within is vital to your practice and Jessie is generous with her insight and wisdom! Tune in and get ready to level your PR game up in 2021!
JESSIE RECOMMENDATIONS:
Schitt's Creek
Queen's Gambit
NPR
KPCC Car Donation
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jessie Cohen - jessieiscohen.com, info@jessieiscohen.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
42:49
November 05, 2021

Re-release: We interview PR Maven Jessie Cohen!!!
Alexis and Erika speak with PR wiz Jessie Cohen about how PR works in the arts/creative industries! What does it mean to be resilient, can you become more resilient (spoiler alert: yes!), how to pitch your projects and how to write an email! Understanding the big, bad, media machine we are all working around or within is vital to your practice and Jessie is generous with her insight and wisdom! Tune in and get ready to level your PR game up in 2021!
JESSIE RECOMMENDATIONS:
Schitt's Creek
Queen's Gambit
NPR
KPCC Car Donation
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jessie Cohen - jessieiscohen.com, info@jessieiscohen.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
42:49
November 05, 2021

S 5 Ep 4: Arts Social Media Strategist Hollie Hilton interview!
This week we get the download from Hollie Hilton - Social Media Strategist EXTRAORDINAIRE - about graduating during the pandemic, creating a space for herself, and helping EVERYONE navigate the potential trenches of social media. She works with everyone from artists, to galleries, to larger institutions on what their strategies should be and how to maximize their presence while also STAYING TRUE TO THEIR MISSIONS/PRACTICES! Have you ever heard of anything so radical? She says you don't have to be on FB or Tik Tok if you don't want! It's great! Learn these tricks and more covid learnings nowwww!
HOLLIE REFERENCES
Frankly Green Web - https://www.franklygreenwebb.com/who-we-are/
Birmingham Museum - https://www.birminghammuseums.org.uk/bmag
Black Country Living Museum - https://bclm.com/
Reddit GLAM (galleries libraries art museum)
Squid Game
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Hollie Hilton - @freelancehollie, freelancehollie.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
Sponsorships: off for this episode
37:42
October 29, 2021

Re-release: Artist Kennedy Yanko Interview!
If you've been following Kennedy since before our interview or after you'll know she is doing incredible things! More shows! NFTs! Curating! Going to take this opportunity to brag on her brilliant brain and share this episode again in case you haven't listened OR in case you need a refresher!
Alexis and Erika speak with artist Kennedy Yanko. If you're like many of us who are looking for some grounded and cathartic convo during this time of uncertainty, this episode is TLC for the creative mind. Have you ever wondered what is it like to have two shows on two different continents in the fall of 2020? How about tips on how to start your day in the studio? Or what her best advice is for a younger self? What got her through tough times? You're in such luck, because we have the answers to these AND MORE! Enjoy!
KENNEDY RECOMMENDS
Podcast: MOMUS
Podcast: How I Built This
Book: Intimacy
Documentary: The Social Dilemma
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Kennedy Yanko - @kennedyyanko, kennedyyanko.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
51:58
October 22, 2021

S 5 Ep 3: The Dana Kopel Interview!
Minutes after reading Dana Kopel's incredible article for The Baffler Against Artsploitation we knew we had to talk to her, see how she's doing, what she's learned, and if she would share with us these thoughts and we were lucky enough that she said YES! If you haven't read the article, click through and do a quick read, it is an incredible breakdown of what is happening at New Museum specifically, but also in the art world in general in regards to labor practices. Then, listen to her share more, THEN READ MORE FROM HER - link below - she's fantastic! Enjoy!
Dana Recommends:
Book: The cultural front by Michael Denning
TV Show: Love Island
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Dana Kopel - @decafdana, danakopel.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
45:31
October 15, 2021

BONUS EPISODE: Season 2 Episode 1: Exhibition Designer/Project Manager Stephanie Willsey Interview!
To celebrate the opening of the Academy Museum here in LA we are putting out our incredible episode with Stephanie Willsey, who is the Exhibition Designer/Project Manager!
Welcome to Season 2 Episode 1! Erika and Alexis speak with Stephanie Willsey, currently a project manager at the soon to be opened Academy Museum, also an artist and a designer for Doug Aitken Workshop. Stephanie is one of the people who makes things happen behind the curtains! She sheds light on the economy of art and the environments and communities built, how limitations can be opportunities and how looking around in your own neighborhood can open your mind to new things! Season 2 is starting off with a BANG! She's incredibly generous with her journey and her experiences, enjoy!!
STEPHANIE RECOMMENDS:
Book: So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Stephanie Willsey - Instagram: @will_sea, Twitter: @s_willsey
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
41:17
October 08, 2021

S5 Ep 2: Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Dept of Arts and Culture
THIS WEEK! ALL CAPS! We talk with Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Department of Arts and Culture, who is also an artist and activist and writer and zine maker and all around woman of our hearts and dreams! We get into the impact of covid on LA's arts community, the economy, and more! Did y'all know that the arts and culture fields make up 8% of the GDP of CA? YOU DO NOW! Want to learn more incredible things like that to impress and stun your friends and family? OF COURSE YOU DO! Tune in!
BRONWYN REFS
Artists for Democracy
BRONWYN RECOMMENDS
The Beak of the Finch by Jonathan Weiner
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Bronwyn Mauldin: LA County Arts, bronwynmauldin.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
42:46
October 01, 2021

S 5 Ep 1: The Olivia Moore Interview!
It's here, the FIRST episode of SEASON 5! Had to take a bit of a breather while Erika moved to this side of the pond and it is worth the wait, we promise! This week we talk to Olivia Moore, the intrepid UX designer behind our very own To Practise a Practice! What has she and WE learned during these panorama times? And by we I don't just mean our lovely hosts, but also US AS A GROUP! We are all in this together, remember? OK! Let's get this show started!
LIV RECOMMENDS
B Mo the Prince https://www.tiktok.com/@bmotheprince?lang=en
Super Mario Galaxy
Animal Crossing
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Olivia Moore: @sophaaachi, insta @oliviamoo.re
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
01:02:45
September 17, 2021

S 4 Ep 12: Interview with Virginia Broersma of the Artist's Office
Talk about building a community, Virginia Broersma of the Artist's Office did just that and she built and built and built and now it's expanding! We go over what different artists need and the preconceived notions that revolve around those needs and how we can achieve them by guess what....LOOKING TO OTHERS! ASKING FOR HELP! OFFERING HELP! Easy in theory, hard in practice, let's go through this great interview and learn some TOOLS!!!
VIRGINIA RECOMMENDS
Artists Contract - https://www.artistscontract.com/
Christina Quarles - https://www.christinaquarles.com/
The Frontier of Leisure: Southern California and the Shaping of Modern America
Free and Natural: Nudity and the American Cult of the Body Book by Sarah Schrank
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Virginia Broersma - @virginiabroersma, @theartistsoffice, theartistsoffice.net
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
01:00:18
July 02, 2021

S 4 Ep 11: Building Community with Erika and Alexis
This week Erika and Alexis talk about how they are using the tips and advice from all of the previous interviewees to build their communities, www.topractisepractice.com and the inaugural Quinn Emanuel Artist-in-Residence, respectively!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
36:22
June 18, 2021

S 4 Ep 10: The Joshua Halstead (Asst Prof of Disability and Design at Art Center) Interview!
This week we talk to Joshua Halstead who is a graphic designer and Assistant Professor of Disability and Design at Art Center and it is a mind-blowing TREAT! How do you feel about self-care as radical action? What about finding community as an act of resistance? Had you ever thought about it in those ways? Neither had Alexis and she lost her mind. He also talks to us about the shift from external validation from community to finding internal validation from community and it is incredible. This is a FUN episode and it's informative which doubles the fun!
JOSHUA RECOMMENDS
Watching: Love on Netflix
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Joshua Halstead - @cripjoy
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
44:19
May 28, 2021

S 4 Ep 9: The TJ Dedeaux- Norris Interview!
This week we have multi-disciplinary artist TJ Dedeaux-Norris on and it is enlightening. We are talking about how do you find community if maybe community is a construct? How do you take care of yourself during quarantimes if you're alone and you have to allocate your resources? How can you take care of anyone if you're not taking care of yourself (spoiler alert: you can't). It's an incredibly introspective episode about where we are, where we come from and where we can be going. Also Tarot and nails. TJ is a gift and you should accept this episode accordingly!
TJ RECOMMENDS
Tarot On Youtube
Tibetan Bowl Singing
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TJ Dedeaux-Norris - mekajean.com, @tj_dedeaux_norris
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
newsletter : https://practisepractice-the-newsletter.mailchimpsites.com/ Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/ A
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48:23
May 14, 2021

S 4 Special Ep: Quick announcement and update w/ Erika and Alexis!
Quick update about the pod schedule going forward and if you would like to sign up for the newsletter - click here!
It will be informative and fun! Quizzes! We all love quizzes!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
03:14
May 13, 2021

S 4 Ep 8: The Jacopo Moschin Interview!
This week we talk to former fashion photographer and current producer/art consultant/all around incredible creative Jacopo Moschin! We go through his incredible creative artist journey to where he is now and how through pursuing all of his passions (like a child on a playground!) he was able to build a stimulating community that supports all his new ventures! It's a memorable conversation going over all the twists of his practice and career and such a great example of adaptive tenacity! Listen now!
JACOPO RECOMMENDS
Reading: Way of the Tao
Reading: A Dealer's Hand: The Chinese Art World through the Eyes of Giuseppe Eskenazi
Reading: Sakamoto Goro
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jacopo Moschin - jacopomoschin.com, @jacopomoschin
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
33:13
April 30, 2021

S 4 Ep 7: James Nord, Founder of Fohr!
This week we have Founder and CEO of Fohr, James Nord, gracing our ears with wisdom, wit and y'all can't see it but a wicked sense of style. It's incredible how well dressed he is all the time. ANYWHO- we talk about building your own community, the power artists and creatives have with social media, the questions to ask yourself when you're posting and how to create a space where people want to be engaged with you and your work. It's incredible, his advice is invaluable, and because I can't get over alliteration today and it's true, this episode is indelible. Listen now!
JAMES REFERENCES REFERENCES
NY Times: Fohr Ambassador Program
Sink Reviews
Camilla Engstrom
Jamie Beck
JAMES RECOMMENDS
Reading: Ulysses S Grant
Reading: REAGANLAND
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
James Nord - Fohr.co, @fohrco, @jamesnord
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off -Stop stressing about money—build your financial savvy so you can live a sustainable life and get back to your work.
37:09
April 23, 2021

S 4 Ep 6: Art Dealer and Founder Reilly Clark!
This week we got to talk to Reilly Clark, one of the co-founders of Passage Arts, which is exciting because talk about building your OWN COMMUNITY - they are working on helping artists AND collectors (new and established) navigate the art world on new paths and it is a gorgeous journey. Why do we need new paths? WELL TUNE IN AND LEARN! We talk about gatekeeping, we talk about tech stuff, we talk about multi-faceted artists, we talk about how the art world is failing us (we march unafraid into the dark night!) and how we can make it better. And by we, I mean ALL OF US! You too! JOIN US! It's a revolution!
(Alexis also bitches about galleries not sending her previews but you can fast forward that and she is going to make a very concerted effort to stop doing that)
REILLY REFERENCES
Artist: Nālamakūikapō Ahsing
REILLY RECOMMENDS
Reading: Charlotte Newman
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Reilly Clark - passagearts.com, @passage.arts
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
35:18
April 14, 2021

S 4 Special Ep: NFTs 101 with Arts Writer and Researcher Clara Peh!
OK, so the Beeple Bubble may be popping or popping off depending on which side of the NFT debate you are on, but the real question for a lot of us is What are NFTs? We know it's crypto, we may know it's Non-Fungible Tokens, we may not! This has been introduced and accelerated at Formula 1 speed so if you missed it, dont' feel bad we have a solid episode with the wonderous Clara Peh, who is smart and succinct and uses all her arts and economics brain spaces to explain to us what these things are and what is going on! It's a great primer!
CLARA REFERENCES:
Artist: Antonius Wiriadjaja
NFT Article 1
NFT Article 2
NFT Article 3
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Clara Peh - @claralikesart
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
37:53
April 02, 2021

S 4 Ep 5: Artist Pae White Interview!
We interviewed Pae White and Alexis didn't spontaneously combust so in general, that's a huge win! She talks to us about finding community in unlikely places during the pandemic, building her studio up from a solo venture to the multinational operation it is now, learning about contracts and looking to friends for advice. Also mushrooms, a lot of mushrooms. This is an incredibly informative and generous interview and hearing her talk about her journey is beyond rewarding. She casually drops working on her piece at the Venice Biennale...I mean...what more do you want?
PAE RECOMMENDS:
Book: All That The Rain Promises and More
Book: Mushrooms of the Redwood Coast
Book: Man's Search For Meaning
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Pae White - 1301PE, Kaufmann Repetto, neugerriemschnieder
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
44:58
March 26, 2021

S 4 Ep 4: Artist and Disability Activist Sharona Franklin!
Strap in guys, we have an incredible interview with multimedia artist and disability activist Sharona Franklin! We'll get it out of the way and say yes, we do talk about how she (one artist, disabled body, in Canada) is taking on Gucci! We also talk about community, support, teachers, education in general, access and a whole mess of incredible topics. When you get to the end you'll see how we had to pull the cord b/c we could keep talking to her forever. She is frank and honest and smart and candid about the realities of her life and work and I (alexis) can guarantee listening to this will galvanize something in you for the better. Honestly. Also, Sharona is moving and as you'll hear everything is more difficult for her so if you have a few bucks you could throw her way, it would be much appreciated. RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS Y'ALL! Donate to Sharona: paypal.me/starseeded
SHARONA RECOMMENDS:
Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
Married to Medicine
Real Housewives
The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sharona Franklin - @star_seeded, @paid.technologies, @hot.crip, @disabled_personals
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
01:04:49
March 19, 2021

S 4 Ep 3: Director Shumka Centre for Creative Entrepreneurship Living Labs Kate Armstrong
Wow guys, wow. This week we talk to Kate Armstrong who is the Director of The Emily Carr School's Shumka Centre for Creative Entrepreneurship Living Labs - and ooohweee are we talking about getting y'all on the paths of SUCCESS! We go over where to find tools and community and she has answers. As generous as it is informative, this is a great listen for everyone (even seasoned pros! We need refreshers!) who works in the ever expansive art world!
KATE REFERENCES:
Emily Carr University : https://www.ecuad.ca/
How To Guides : https://shumka.ecuad.ca/publication/how-to-guides/
Leave the World Behind by Rumaan Alam Agent Sonya by Ben Macintyre
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Kate Armstrong - Katearmstrong.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS: Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
42:16
March 12, 2021

S 4 Ep 2: The Detroit Art Week Co-Founder Amani Olu Interview!
BUCKLE UP GUYS THIS IS A GOOD ONE! We talk to Amani Olu, of Olu Company, IMG SRVR and Detroit Art Week and his advice on failure and hustling and money should not be ignored, I mean, look how many hats he wears! It's really incredible to talk to Olu about interacting with other humans in life and how that translates to our lives and where we can go with those experiences. We talk about what burns him up and how to get some inner peace on how to get past that! Gold guys, pure gold. TUNE IN NOW!
AMANI RECOMMENDS
Go Ahead in the Rain: Notes to a Tribe Called Quest by Hanif Abdurraqib
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Amani Olu - @amaniolu, @olucompany, Olu Company, IMG SRVR, Detroit Art Week
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
50:52
March 05, 2021

S4 Ep 1: Conservator and Entrepreneur Ben Fino-Radin!
Welcome to Season 4 where we are talking all about COMMUNITY! What is it? Where is yours? How do you find it? This week we talk to conservator and entrepreneur Ben Fino-Radin about all things community and it is BOUNTIFUL! No joke, look at all the references below. We aren't messing around, not to say we aren't having fun! But we are snarky because we CARE SO MUCH! We are all about asking for help in this episode and looking to our peers for support and it is incredible and you will leave this one feeling very invigorated. That's a full promise!
BEN REFERENCES
Matters In Media Art
Archive Academy
Rosencranz Foundation
JSC
Guggenheim Panza Collection
Dotronix
BEN RECOMMENDS:
Helene Vogelsinger
Podcast: Pivot
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Ben Fino-Radin - @small_data, smalldata.industries
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
56:58
February 26, 2021

Season 4 TRAILER!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
01:55
February 19, 2021

S3 Ep 13: Arts Professional Jane McCarthy Interview!
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Arts Professional Jane McCarthy and it is a PLEASURE! Jane has a Masters, has worked with museums, galleries, artists, now at UCLA, like...could you ask for a more well-rounded and seasoned interviewee to round out Season 3? It would be a TOUGH JOB! She is eloquent and her advice is SOUND and she is in Hawaii right now riding out the quarantimes so she obviously has incredible decision making skills! Seriously though, her wisdom for biz side of art is invaluable and honestly, this is a MUST LISTEN! OK, until next season!
JANE RECOMMENDS:
Book: Sharks in the Time of Saviors by Kawai Strong Washburn
Netflix: Lupin
Podcast: Works In Progress Podcast UCLA Arts
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jane McCarthy: @janepmc
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
37:28
February 12, 2021

S 3 Ep 12: Artist Vanessa Prager Interview!!
This week we have the incredible Los Angeles based painter - VANESSA PRAGER - who is a generous with her spirit and knowledge as she is paint to canvas. Prager created an entirely new body of work during PANDEMIC TIMES to show at Diane Rosenstein, (seriously if you're not familiar click through so you know what kind of genius we are talking to) and she told us all about making work now, in the future, being true to oneself and getting rid of toxic people who aren't serving you! Did Alexis fan girl out a little bit? Yes. Do you blame her? No. Listen now and you can fan out too! This is a MUST listen for every creative -honestly this is the kind of advice you can't hear enough. Maybe fave it so you can check back too? Just a suggestion.
VANESSA RECOMMENDS
Watch: The Great Pottery Throw Down
Listen to: Moby Dick, The Story of Civilisation
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Vanessa Prager - vprager.com, @vanessaprager
UPCOMING SHOW - Diane Rosenstein
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
46:38
February 05, 2021

S3 Ep 11: It's Us! We Interview ourselves!
In full transparency, Alexis forgot to book a guest this week even though she has a spreadsheet that has all the people who have agreed to do it and we have 5 episodes of Season 4 recorded! Why did she forget? Because the world still feels like it's on fire in LA and she has a square job as well. Is Alexis writing this right now? Yes. ANYWHO, we asked each other what we learned and what our nugget of wisdom was and was pleasantly, and honestly didn't plan it, surprised to find out we were two sides of the same coin! We may get off track towards the end chatting about menial tasks, but stick it out because we promise there is a point!
ERIKA RECOMMENDS:
Webinars
Not finishing books you don't like
Rewatching The Good Fight
ALEXIS RECOMMENDS:
Raven Leilani's Luster - if you like sexy books
Rewatching Bones
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
38:12
January 29, 2021

S3 Ep 10: Creative Accountant Nick Maynard Interview!
We are hitting y'all up with some more EXCITING ACCOUNTING INFO! Why? Because you can never have enough, and that isn't an exaggeration. This week we talk to Nick Maynard, who founded We Are Practice, a full service accounting firm for creatives. When is the best time to start getting your finances together for your practice/business? 10 years ago. Second best time? TODAY! How do you do it? WELL DEAR LISTENERS NICK TELLS US! Like in detail. It's incredible. Money talk around creative practices is daunting and weird and we are trying to get y'all the info you need so you can be fully protected and funded to do YOUR THING! Listen in, it's more fun than it should be and Nick answers ALL of our hypotheticals. Also talks about how to find an accountant for you!
NICK RECOMMENDATIONS: Tom Hanks
Book: Dune by Frank Herbert
Music: Adrianne Lenker
Magazine: Courier
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Nick Maynard - @wearepractice, wearepractice.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS: Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
44:22
January 22, 2021

Season 3 Ep 9: Gallerist Tyler Park Interview!
Early into quarantine Alexis got an email about a NEW GALLERY OPENING UP in LOS ANGELES called Tyler Park Presents and a few things immediately crossed her mind: WHAT IS THIS INSANITY, OH I KNOW HIM, WE MUST TALK IMMEDIATELY, THIS IS SO EXCITING! Yes, Alexis sometimes thinks in all caps. She also writes in third person. She is writing this. SO she talked to Erika and they agreed to get Tyler on ASAP and because he's a busy guy who just opened a gallery ON HIS OWN during a PANDEMIC it took a bit but we have him now! All of your questions of what, how, where, why, when (now!) and who are answered and this is a must listen for anyone who has or will be making any jumps in their career! Do it! You can! Tyler has advice and it is incredible!
TYLER RECOMMENDATIONS:
Youtube: Casey Neistat
Youtube: Worth it
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Tyler Park - @tylerpark_presents/, tylerparkpresents.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
38:29
January 15, 2021

Season 3 Episode 8: Networking Gone Wrong Olga Ivannikova Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Olga Ivannikova of Networking Gone Wrong! Besides the fact that we all need networking refreshers from time to time (WE ALL DO!) on a personal note (this is Alexis) this week (writing this 1/8) has been DIFFICULT and Olga is very VIBRANT and this episode is filled with learning from trial and error and notes for entrepreneurs and tips and tricks and forward moving and laughs and excitement and I'm SUPER happy (Erika is too, we've been texting about it) to start 2021 off this way!
OLGA RECOMMENDATIONS:
Macbeth (1976, Stage)
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Olga Ivannikova - @networkinggonewrong, networkinggonewrong.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
37:39
January 08, 2021

Season 3 Episode 6: Curator AJ Girard Interview
Alexis and Erika spoke with curator AJ Girard this week about finding a place in the art world and what that means to him and how that journey is continuing. Why is it important to him to always be a student? What does he mean when he says "your perspective is perfect"? We are people worrying about other people forgetting Rembrandt? No one is forgetting Rembrandt! Tune in and EXPAND YOUR MIND! The generosity of his journey is definitely worth your time! Heads up - Alexis swears a lot in this one and we didn't beep it out!
AJ IS READING:
Black Futures by Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
AJ Girard - @_AJGirard
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
51:24
December 12, 2020

Season 3 Episode 5 Artist Takashi Arai Interview!
Alexis and Erika spoke with Artist Takashi Arai this week about WHAT SHOULD YOU KNOW and OOHWEE does he give us nuggets of wisdom! He has a bus, that is a studio, that he makes DAGUERREOTYPES in while he's on the road! How is he using his art to help ease and communicate historical trauma to different communities? How does his research and poetry and bus and art and sci fi all come together? What is also incredible, is he didn't go to school for art, he just is an artist. Alexis flips out for most of this recording, tune in and find out why!
TAKASHI REFERENCES:
Daguerreotypes
Senninbari
TAKASHI IS WATCHING
Joker
Godzilla (1954)
Godzilla (2017)
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Takashi Arai - takashiarai.com, @daily_dag
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
42:16
December 05, 2020

S 3 Ep 4: Author and Entrepreneur Jennifer Armbrust Interview
It wasn't long ago that Katherine DeVos Devine was recommending to us Proposals for the Feminine Economy and we KNEW we had to get the author, Jennifer Armbrust, onto the pod and are WE GLAD WE DID! Jennifer started her career at a punk bar in Portland (as one does) and then opened her own gallery (obviously) and then decided to take late-stage capitalism on (again, standard) and she talks to us about ALL OF THAT! Why is she so brave? What has she learned about her own relationship with work and her body and exchange? It's an INCREDIBLY generous episode and we know you'll be bookmarking it too!
11/27-29 Everything on Sister.is (books/classes/gifts!) is ON SALE! THE TIMING!
JENNIFER REFERENCES:
Bell Hooks
Audre Lord
Kimberle Crenshaw
JENNIFER RECOMMENDS:
Do: Sewing
Watch: Schitt's Creek
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jennifer Armbrust - sister.is, @sister.is
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
39:04
November 27, 2020

Season 3 Episode 3: East Fork's Connie Matisse Interview!
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Connie Matisse, CMO (Chief Marketing Officer) of East Fork Pottery. Connie runs a team of 90! How does she do it? Where are the boundaries? What jargon is being used? She talks about pivoting during stay at home times, the importance of having "just in case" money and adaptive tenacity! ADAPTIVE TENACITY!!! You know how excited we are about these two words being used in conjunction? It's incredible. This is a MUST LISTEN for anyone trying to make a go out of their creative endeavors.
And spoiler alert, prioritise the admin stuff.
CONNIE REFERENCES:
Japanese Mingei Era Pottery
British Studio Pottery
West African Pottery
CONNIE RECOMMENDS:
Book - The Lying Life of Adults by Elena Ferrante
What is a Ferrante head?
Listening to Punk Rock
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Connie Matisse - eastfork.com, @eastforkpottery
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
35:47
November 20, 2020

Season 3 Episode 2: Artist Yasmine Diaz Interview
Alexis and Erika spoke with Artist Yasmine Diaz this week about WHAT SHOULD YOU KNOW! We ask, she answers! We talked about growing up Yemeni in Chicago and how her third culture identity informs her practice. She shared about finding her people, the power of story telling and getting over the fear of failure. What does the fear of failure have to do with collective community? Tune in and find out! Diaz is incredibly generous with her experience and it's an exciting and dare we say, lighter (?), POST-OUTCOME, recording!
YASMINE REFERENCES:
Ochi Gallery
Women’s Center for Creative Work
Third Culture
Velvet Burnout (Devoré)
The Arab American National Museum
YASMINE IS WATCHING
Netflix: Queens Gambit
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Yasmine Diaz - yasminediaz.com, @yasmine.diaz
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference
44:39
November 13, 2020

Season 3 Episode 1: Art World Conference Programme Director Heather Bhandari Interview!
To start of Season 3 with a bang we talk with Heather Bhandari - author of Art Work: Everything You Need To Know To Pursue Your Art Career*, an adjunct lecturer at Brown, a trained artist, worked at galleries, consulted for non-profits and now is Program Director at Art World Conference. Does that feel like too many things for one person to do? We agreed, but we got the low down and she IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS! Her wealth of experience is only matched by her willingness to share her knowledge and it is all incredibly generous. We ask the woman who WROTE THE BOOK - what do you need to know? - and she ANSWERED and it's incredible! Tune in to hear her recommendations, her advice, share her experience and GROW!
*Erika LOVES this book! Used it in her fancy PhD thesis! Do not forget that Erika is a Dr. ok?!
HEATHER REFERENCES:
Laundromat Projects - Asset Mapping
Making and Being by Caroline Woolard and Susan Jahoda
Sunlight Tax - Hannah Cole
Art World Learning - JUST LAUNCHED!
HEATHER IS READING/WATCHING
Ghost Patrol Book Series (for parents with kids K-2)
Hyperallergic - and listen to our pod with Hrag Vartanian Founder of Hyperallergic
Artnet - and listen to our episode with Tim Schneider, Art Business Editor of Artnet
Netflix: Queens Gambit
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Heather Bhandari - artworldconference.com, artworldlearning.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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45:12
November 06, 2020

Season 3 Trailer: What should you know?
This season we are talking about - WHAT SHOULD YOU KNOW? - and we answer that question by talking to a lot of people who are VERY smart in ALL DIFFERENT kinds of creative and artistic careers and we make them answer the question! We have artists and business owners and PR experts and curators and and and...TUNE IN TO FIND OUT!
01:37
October 30, 2020

Season 2 Episode 13: Art trained Associate Marriage and Family Therapist (AMFT) Camille Bien interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Camille Bien. Trained as an installation artist, Camille used her arts education and became an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist. We talk about the traumas of art school, the endless "why's" in crits, and how we found coping mechanisms. Which incidentally is being part of a community and sharing our feelings. This is an INCREDIBLE episode for the times but also forever. How we make our choices and how we support ourselves is so critical and Camille brings amazing insight into these processes.
CAMILLE IS WATCHING:
Agents of Chaos
RESOURCES:
211
Dial 211 or 211.org
This is a comprehensive resource for local communities located in The United States and Canada. Resources include mental health services, emotional and domestic abuse, veterans, and many other services
National Alliance on Mental Health
Text 741741 Dial 1-800-950-6264 or nami.org
Association of over 500 affiliates who provide support and education about mental health. NAMI provides national resources for mental health needs
Mental Health America
mhanational.org
This site provides resources for various mental health needs at varying income levels
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Camille Bien- @lovehongmina
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
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AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
42:47
October 23, 2020

Season 2 Episode 12: Founder of the Canvas, Jeremy Hodkin Interview!
This week we talk to Jeremy Hodkin, arts writer and founder of the incredible arts newsletter The Canvas!* We go over what inspired him to start his own publication and what it means to look at the "bread and butter" of the art world. Also, how can a fully holistic view of the art world give him a unique view into what is going on and how those decisions reverberate through other, seemingly unrelated, areas! Also, more importantly, what is WORKING right now in the art world, what are the choices being made that are making things stronger and will last past lockdown? And of course, we would be remiss not to mention STAN! We stan Stan. *It's also a monthly, subscribe, you will NOT regret it!
JEREMY RECOMMENDS:
Documentary: Price of Everything
Book: Nasty Bits by Anthony Bourdain
Book: Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain
Video: Howard Stern interviews Chris Rock
Christies 20th Century evening sale
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YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jeremy Hodkin - @jeremyhodkin, The Canvas
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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41:32
October 16, 2020

Season 2 Episode 11: Artist Soo Kim Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Soo Kim, artist and Head of Photography at Otis. After Alexis fan girls out, and then fan girls out again, we talk about making and teaching under constraints, the importance of being transparent and of being hydrated. How do you navigate this world and see and be seen and create and help others create? It's a LOT! And we have ANSWERS!
Watching:
GYOPO is a Los Angeles-based coalition of diasporic Korean cultural producers and art professionals generating cultural, political, and professional exchange through community alliances and the interrogation of discourses in art, criticism, media and politics.
Theater of War
Reading:
Olga Tokarczuk : Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead
Valeria Luiselli : The Story of My Teeth
Harry Dodge : My Meteorite: Or, Without the Random There Can Be No New Thing
Ted Chiang
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Soo Kim - @soo_kim_studio, @pushandshove, sookim.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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50:24
October 09, 2020

Practise your asks: Should Erika go to Frieze London?
Erika wonders if she should go to Frieze London.
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
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01:08
October 05, 2020

Extra: Hyde the Context Christie's Announcement
We heard from The Canvas* that Christie's just announced a new format for their online shows and it promises to be QUITE THE SPECTACLE! What does this mean in the context of auction house's normal roll as a secondary market provider for the art world? Erika and Alexis discuss!
*Jeremy Hodkin, The Canvas EIC, will be our guest for Episode 13 of Season 2! Stay tuned!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Audio Engineering: - Alexander Rossi
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11:18
October 02, 2020

Season 2 Episode 10: Head of Policy Unit, Eliza Easton Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Head of Policy Unit, @CreativePEC and Creative Economy, @nesta_uk Eliza Easton. Eliza talks about the data they are finding in regards to our creative consumption pre- and during COVID times. What has changed and what has stayed the same? Who is actually making policy and what are they looking to do? She also talks about the grants side of Nesta and how to apply as an artist. Alexis loses her mind about the Royal Academy/Michelangelo fiasco but what side does she fall? ELIZA RECOMMENDS: Ruskinland: How John Ruskin Shapes Our World (The Lives of the Artists) Lottie Davies, Photographer LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Eliza Easton - @elizaeaston Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com Audio Engineering: - Alexander Rossi Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
01:03:45
October 02, 2020

Extra: Talking through our Art Basel Online Viewing Room (OVR) Walkthrough
Erika and Alexis go through the Art Basel Online Viewing Room Presentation together! They talk about what kind of information they look for when browsing, go over user experience, and the perks of doing research on these platforms! There is more information to be gathered than just art works and prices! Enjoy!
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
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40:16
September 25, 2020

Season 2 Episode 9: Lawyer Katherine De Vos Devine interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Katherine De Vos Devine, a lawyer who specializes in artists and creative and approaches the law holistically! We discuss the latest developments in intellectual property law (it involves Nicki Minaj! Tracy Chapman! Fast Cars!) and how a recent ruling can help your practice. Also on the table is appropriation art, self-protection, what we can do when we find someone messing with artists AND MORE! Tune in! This is a vital episode for all creatives.
KATHERINE REFERENCES:
Peter Jaszi, copyright lawyer - selected works
Hyperallergic: A Young Artist Debuts at Gagosian
KATHERINE RECOMMENDS:
Proposals for the Feminine Economy by Jennifer Armbrust
Feminist Business School
The Babysitters Club on Netflix
Playlist: Lute Music for Alchemists
Podcast: Sarah Chappell’s So You Wanna Be a Witch
Podcast: Lindsay Mack’s Tarot for the Wild Soul
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Katherine De Vos Devine: Devosdevine.com, @founditbitches , @devosdevine
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
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44:12
September 25, 2020

Season 2 Episode 8: Artist Kennedy Yanko Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with artist Kennedy Yanko. If you're like many of us who are looking for some grounded and cathartic convo during this time of uncertainty, this episode is TLC for the creative mind. Have you ever wondered what is it like to have two shows on two different continents in the fall of 2020? How about tips on how to start your day in the studio? Or what her best advice is for a younger self? What got her through tough times? You're in such luck, because we have the answers to these AND MORE! Enjoy!
KENNEDY RECOMMENDS
Podcast: MOMUS
Podcast: How I Built This
Book: Intimacy
Documentary: The Social Dilemma
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Kennedy Yanko - @kennedyyanko, kennedyyanko.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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51:58
September 18, 2020

Season 2 Episode 7: VC/Art Appraiser Christina Hirukawa Interview!
Erika and Alexis speak with painter turned art dealer venture capitalist Christina Hirukawa. Ever wondered what high-net-worth individuals are looking for in the art world? How do they invest? Is it for the long-run or is it short-term? What is she looking for on your website or during a studio visit? It's informative and her tips are easy to implement, so listen up and TAKE NOTES! We're not asking twice!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Christina Hirukawa - October Inventory
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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01:02:04
September 11, 2020

Season 2 Episode 6: Artist Tax Agent Hannah Cole Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with enrolled agent Hannah Cole of Sunlight Tax. What's an enrolled agent? Is it possible to be an artist an accountant? Is it possible to be an accountant for only artists? Is accounting sexy*? Can you start now and if you do where should you start? It's a LOT of questions, with potentially big consequences and Hannah answers ALL OF THEM! Let's use this time and get our FINANCES IN ORDER! It's fun with Hannah, promise!
*Yes.
Hannah RECOMMENDS:
Article: The Second Best Time is Now (Why starting now is the key to growing wealth)
Article: No, You Really Can't Get a Tax Deduction for Artwork You Donated to Charity
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off
Book: On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous by Ocean Vuong
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Hannah Cole - Sunlight Tax, @sunlighttax
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
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48:31
September 04, 2020

Season 2 Episode 5: Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett, founder of Murk & Co, this week. Sarah is super generous with her knowledge! Going over what she does, what she looks for, what her clients look for and how to get your best foot through the door! We cover everything from references to resumes and professionalism to learning curves! What do you need to have prepared for your job search? Sarah tells us! Join us for a great episode full of incredible information and FUN HYPOTHETICALS! AND TAROT! Enjoy!!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS/GUESTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sarah Murkett - Murk & Co
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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40:11
August 28, 2020

Season 2 Episode 4: Art Litigator Luke Nikas Interview!
Welcome to Episode 4! Erika and Alexis speak with Luke Nikas, a partner at Quinn Emanuel's NY office and Co-Chair of the firm's Art Litigation and Disputes Practice. He takes us through the evolution of Art Litigation over the last 20 years and why it has exploded in the way it has. Also, what is litigation? What is litigatable?* What are your rights to your images and works as an artist and how can you protect yourself before and after the creation of your work? It's an INCREDIBLY educational episode regarding the tangential legal issues that surround the art world and everyone should listen, because it's more than either of the host's knew about and you're probably more protected than you thought. Bookmark this one, because if you don't need it now, you will in the future!
*Did Alexis make up the word litigatable? The autocorrect on this typing says no, but her enthusiasm in the episode says yes!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS/GUESTS UPON THE INTERNET
Luke Nikas - Quinn Emanuel - Luke Nikas
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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43:41
August 21, 2020

Season 2 Episode 3: Artist Kottie Paloma Interview!
Welcome to Episode 3! Erika and Alexis speak with Kottie Paloma, painter and art handler extraordinaire. He has seen it all, installed it all, scooted it all, and managed an incredible painting practice at the same time with a show next Spring at Saatchi Yates in London! What is the difference between types of collectors* or what can you learn on the job? Kottie comes through with the answers and a little bit of tea! Tune in, turn it up, and ENJOY!
*note. due to sensitivity, beeps were incorporated into this episode for anonymity purposes. And yes, Kottie worked with some extremely high profile individuals
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Kottie Paloma - KottiePaloma.com, @kottiepaloma
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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40:49
August 14, 2020

Season 2 Episode 2: Deputy Director Sue Bell Yank Interview!
Welcome to Episode 2! Erika and Alexis speak with Sue Bell Yank, Deputy Director of 18th Street Arts, formerly of OWN and the Hammer, and an all around awesome smart lady with very soothing voice. We talk about the importance of arts education from a young age, funding, civil projects, community engagement and LARPing. She also has an incredible podcast, Paved Paradise, about the history of housing disparity in Los Angeles that we discuss, and it's a treat to hear about the behind the scenes! This is an exceptionally inspiring one! I mean look below and bask in the RANGE!
SUE REFERENCED:
Lefebvre Right To The City
Hamburg Park Fiction
Minneapolis - Feminist Strip Club/Sex Workers Organizing Project
SUE RECOMMENDS:
Podcast: Imaginary Worlds
Podcast: Rude Tales of Magic
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sue Bell Yank - SueBellYank.com, PavedParadisePodcast.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
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46:09
August 07, 2020

Season 2 Trailer: Key Workers
We are JUMPING RIGHT IN with Season 2! This season we will be interviewing the key workers who are behind the scenes! Designers, architects, fabricators, art movers, framers, insurers...you get the idea! There is an entire industry of people who make up the art world that we don't know what they do, how they do it, how they got there, and how we could too get there if we wanted! First episode of Season 2 is this Friday! Can't wait!
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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02:22
July 28, 2020

Episode 13: Founder/EIC of Hyperallergic, Hrag Vartanian Interview!
Welcome to Episode 13! Erika and Alexis talk to Hrag Vartanian, the founder and editor in chief of Hyperallergic. A continuation of our series on motivation, Hrag discusses journalism, the art world we need to be focusing on, why Hyperallergic exists, and who’s subsidizing who! We go through who got PPPs and Alexis’s Tumblr glory days. This is an instant classic. TUNE IN AND GAIN KNOWLEDGE!
HRAG RECOMMENDS:
Documentary: Manufacturing Consent (1992)
Documentary: Camera Person (2016)
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Hrag Vartanian - @hragv, hyperallergic.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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01:10:09
July 24, 2020

Episode 12: Collector/Dealer Stefan Simchowitz Interview!
Welcome to Episode 12! Erika and Alexis talk to Los Angeles dealer/collector/man of many hats Stefan Simchowitz. Tune in and find out! A continuation of our series around motives and motivations! Why does Stefan do what he does and where does he think things are going? We talk about supporting artist, broken structures that lead to inequality and in his words "bad Simco mythology"!
Stefan recommends:
The Red Scare Podcast
Brad Troemel Instagram
The Deficit Myth by Stephanie Kelton
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Stefan Simchowitz - @stefansimchowitz, Simcos Club
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
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59:10
July 17, 2020

Episode 11 Part 2: Head of Strategy, The Jesse McKee Interview!
Welcome to Episode 11 part 2! Erika and Alexis talk to Jesse McKee Head of Strategy at 221a. 221A works with artists and designers to research and develop social, cultural and ecological infrastructure in Vancouver. What gets him and his community going and why? Have you heard of a 500 year plan? We hadn't but now we have! What are his thoughts on bears and what is in his INCREDIBLE reading/listening/viewing list? Tune in and find out!
JESSE RECOMMENDS:
Banff Centre
ICA Philadelphia recently published this long-form interview with Jesse and Brian McBay (221A Cofounder and current ED). It was recorded last summer but much is still current. It’s about 221A’ founding, values and how we approach cultural work.
JESSE READING LIST
Doma.City
Anthropocene
Back Loop: Experimentation in Unsafe Operating Space Gwaii Haanas Residency Program
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jesse McKee - 221a
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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30:39
July 10, 2020

Episode 11 Part 1: Motivation
Welcome to Episode 11 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss MOTIVATION! Why do we do this? What are our motives? You will be surprised at how romantic we get talking about why we do this. Join us on this journey to get to the root of our motivations!
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Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
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38:06
July 10, 2020

Episode 10 Part 2: Artist Evan Trine Interview!
Welcome to Episode 10 part 2! Erika and Alexis talk to Los Angeles Artist Evan Trine! What roll has luck played in his career and long term? We also discuss his latest conceptual digital work "7 Shows" and the unexpected places that got him. It's really great to hear about how some of the things we have been discussing in the pod are things Evan (represented by Roberts Projects) uses to help him!
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Evan Trine - @evanpaultrine, evantrine.com, robertsprojects.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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34:50
July 03, 2020

Episode 10 Part 1: Luck
Welcome to Episode 10 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss LUCK, is it real? Does it impact your career? Can you make it? Could you be unlucky? What does any of that mean because you know a LOT of people are talking about luck and the roll that plays in their career a lot!
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31:51
July 03, 2020

Episode 9: Peer to Peer Art Crits!
Welcome to Episode 9! It's difficult to believe we are in our 3rd month, but here we are! It's June! Erika and Alexis invite arts writer Matt Stromberg (Hyperallergic, LA Times, The Guardian) and Los Angeles curator/artist/writer Megan O'Neal to speak with two early-career artists during online studio visits. Join the international trip to meet German- Lithuania artist Ana Lipps, who is riding out quarantine in Lithuania, and Segovian artist Ainoa Burgos who is in Brighton!
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Megan O'Neal - 1
Matt Stromberg - @officialstromberg
Ana Lipps - @ana_lipps
Ainoa Burgos - @noa-madethis
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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58:45
June 19, 2020

Episode 8: Celebrating 2 months and remembering failure is a part of the process!
Welcome to Episode 8! Erika and Alexis can't believe it's been 2 months! They discuss how easy it is to look at other people's careers and practice journeys and think that it is smooth sailing. It is NOT! They both share failures and hurdles they have faced and invite past guests to share their trials and tribulations as well! We get to hear again from London based artist and educator Natasha Caruana, ArtNet/Gray Market's Tim Schnieder and Young Space's Kate Mothes about their struggles as well!
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Natasha Caruana - @natashacaruana @workshowgrow, natashacaruana.com
Tim Schneider - twitter: the_gray_market, insta: @the_graymarket
Kate Mothes of @yngspc
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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50:39
June 12, 2020

Episode 7 Part 2: The Cassandra Bowes and Kate Mothes Interview!
Welcome to Episode 7 Part 2! We talk to Cassandra Bowes of @the_arts_editor and Kate Mothes of @yngspc about how they have used digital applications to grow their base and careers! They go through the process of creating, growing and utilizing their platforms for greater awareness and outreach and touch on what might be next! Tune in!
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Cassandra Bowes of @the_arts_editor
Kate Mothes of @yngspc
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
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28:60
June 05, 2020

Episode 7 Part 1: Digital Applications
Welcome to Episode 7 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss Digital Applications, not just applying to things digitally, but how you can apply digital strategies to your practice and life. This is a great time to really look at what your digital application and how you can adjust it! Then stay tuned for Part 2 where we talk to Cassandra Bowes of @the_arts_editor and Kate Mothes of @yngspc about how they have used digital applications to grow their base and careers! .
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:03
June 05, 2020

Episode 6 Part 2: The Sean Green of Arternal Episode!
Welcome to Episode 6 Part 2! Erika and talk to Sean Green, CEO and Co-Founder of Arternal to discuss the importance of digital strategies, how transparency and data can revolutionize the art market and why the time is now to get into data and how you can utilize it! Sean is beyond generous with his knowledge and wisdom and it’s incredible to hear what direction we should be going in!
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Sean Green – @sean_arternal, Arternal Blog
Arternal - @ _arternal_, arternal.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
35:48
May 29, 2020

Episode 6 Part 1: Digital Strategies
Welcome to Episode 6 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss Digital Strategies, and how people are utilizing them now and why/how we should use them in the future. This is a great time to really look at what your digital strategy is and how you can adjust it! Then stay tuned for Part 2 where we talk to Sean Green, CEO and Co-Founder of Arternal for an incredibly generous dose of insight, advice and knowledge.
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
39:05
May 29, 2020

Episode 5 Part 2: Artist/Educator Natasha Caruana Interview!
Welcome to Episode 5 Part 2! Erika and Alexis talk to Natasha Caruana, an incredible artist and educator out of London! Caruana has been utilizing the internet and her network for years and shares that experience with you! Her insight and advice is invaluable and she honestly changed the way Alexis views reaching out. She is also the reason Alexis and Erika met! Kismet! What could she do for you? Now is the time, no matter what line of work/passion you are in to gain some great tools!
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Natasha Caruana - @natashacaruana @workshowgrow, natashacaruana.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:34
May 22, 2020

Episode 5 Part 1: Outreach
Welcome to Episode 5 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss outreach, but in a real practical way. Real tips and tricks to cold contact, following up, and keeping track for the future. They say your network is your net worth, but we can show you how to actually get that worth with not too much work! Then stay tuned for Part 2 where we talk to Natasha Caruana, artist and educator out of London!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:16
May 22, 2020

Episode 4 Part 2: Gallerist Ellen Zhuang Interview!
Welcome to Episode 4 Part 2! Erika and Alexis chat with Ellen Zhuang, Business Development at 10 Chancery Lane, Hong Kong! Ellen was kind enough to get on the horn with us at 1 am Hong Kong time to chat with us about how the transition back is going, who she is talking to and why, and the amazing power of We Chat! Tune in and enjoy!
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Ellen Zhuang - @manormint, 10chancerylanegallery.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
51:45
May 15, 2020

Episode 4 Part 1: Networking
Welcome to Episode 4 part 2! Erika and Alexis discuss networking, how it's like the gym, what it can do for you and how we can engage while at home. Also up for discussion is how the internet can keep us connected and networking even if we don't have openings and exhibitions to attend! Then stay tuned for Part 2 where we talk to Ellen Zhuang, Business Development at 10 Chancery Lane Gallery in Hong Kong!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
57:36
May 15, 2020

Episode 3 Part 2: Art Net Business Editor, Tim Schneider Interview!
Welcome to Episode 3 Part 2! Erika and Alexis chat with Tim Schneider, Art Business Editor of the Art Net! Alexis promised it wouldn't be longer than 20 minutes of his time but she lied! It's longer and it's FULL OF GOODIES! We talk about class signaling and online platforms and social transitions and if/when we open up again and what all of this MEANS! Do we find an answer for all of it? Only one way to find out and that is to TUNE IN!
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Tim Schneider - twitter: the_gray_market, insta: @the_graymarket, http://www.thegray-market.com AND https://news.artnet.com/about/tim-schneider-641
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
52:08
May 08, 2020

Episode 3 Part 1: Etiquette
Welcome to Episode 3 Part 1! Erika and Alexis discuss etiquette, why it's important, how to engage with it, and how it can help you with your long term success. Also up for discussion is why etiquette is especially vital now during these times of transitions and how you can use that to your advantage! Then stay tuned for Part 2 where we talk to Tim Schneider, Art Business Editor of the Art Net!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
34:41
May 08, 2020

Episode 2: Structures
Welcome to Episode 2! Erika and Alexis discuss the structures that influence and dictate our practices and careers, large and small scale, and how we can use that to the advantage of our practices and even thrive within them. Also in discussion are new online efforts galleries are making, to what levels of success? TBD! But we are looking out! Enjoy!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
37:22
May 01, 2020

Episode 1: Introducing Hyde or Practise
Introducing Hyde or Practise! Alexis Hyde is a Los Angeles based art consultant and curator, and Dr. Erika Wong, an artist, teacher and social scientist based in London, discuss a range of topics on the Art World ranging from market insights to weekly roundups. This week the hosts introduce themselves, how they connected on the internet and how they bonded over science and their approach to the art world! Discussion ranges from why failure is a good thing and what is going on currently in the art world.
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
36:14
April 24, 2020