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Innovation Book Club

Innovation Book Club

By Alex Drago & Wais Pirzad

The Innovation Book Club is a podcast that explores the key ideas that drive creativity and innovation.

In each episode, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad choose a compelling text from the innovation field, deconstruct its core ideas and then explore what they mean for your innovation practice.

Each episode features an in-depth, critically engaged discussion, punctuated by humour, anecdote and occasional diversion. All in all, everything you’d expect from a book club.
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Reflections (S3/E8)

Innovation Book ClubAug 14, 2023

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Reflections (S3/E8)

Reflections (S3/E8)

It's the end of another season. Alex and Wais take some time to reflect.

Aug 14, 202358:42
Practical Empathy / Indi Young (S3/E7)

Practical Empathy / Indi Young (S3/E7)

Empathy, empathy, empathy, it's the heart of innovation. Apparently. The problem with empathy is that innovators don't truly empathise, instead, they pick and choose feedback that meets their own preferences rather than the broader picture that better reflects the needs of the user. Indi Young addresses this by providing a better understanding of empathy and offering some approaches to utilising it without falling into familiar traps. Alex and Wais dip in to learn how to empathise...

Jul 31, 202356:59
Ten Faces of Innovation / Tom Kelley (S3/E6)

Ten Faces of Innovation / Tom Kelley (S3/E6)

There are many creative agencies but only one of those agencies is called IDEO, the granddaddy of them all, which traces its history back to 1978, the year after Star Wars was released. IDEO became a named entity in 1991, since which time they've popularised the idea of human-centred design, a process that seeks to empathise with users and embed the understanding that falls from this within the product design process to create better innovations. That's not what this book is about, but it is written by one of IDEO's elder statesmen, Tom Kelley, who believes that innovation requires ten different kinds of people, each of whom contributes in different ways. Alex and Wais discover who they are and get lost in a lot of stories.

Jul 17, 202301:38:51
The Myths of Innovation / Scott Berkun (S3/E5)

The Myths of Innovation / Scott Berkun (S3/E5)

Way back in the mists of time, before even the first iPhone was released and kickstarted a seismic shift in digital innovation, Scott Berkun wrote The Myths of Innovation, in which he explores why we have innovation all wrong. Alex and Wais dip into the book and find out what innovation looked like before lean startups and business model canvases were a thing.

Jul 03, 202301:27:54
Value Proposition Design / Osterwalder, Pigneur et al (S3/E4)

Value Proposition Design / Osterwalder, Pigneur et al (S3/E4)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex and Wais follow up their previous episode about Business Model Generation with a look back at Osterwalder's follow-up, Value Proposition Design.

Jun 19, 202301:23:43
Business Model Generation / Alexander Osterwalder & Yves Pigneur (S3/E3)

Business Model Generation / Alexander Osterwalder & Yves Pigneur (S3/E3)

If our recent fixation with innovation started anywhere, it was with Osterwalder & Pigneur's Business Model Generation which popularised the idea of business model innovation through the introduction of the business model canvas. Alex and Wais reflect on the book's legacy and relevance to the innovation landscape today.

Jun 05, 202301:20:47
ChatGPT (S3/E2)

ChatGPT (S3/E2)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club Alex and Wais take on the beast that is ChatGPT and consider how it's going to change how we use the web, our work and our lives. This conversation was recorded in January 2023.

May 23, 202301:10:41
The Lean Startup / Eric Ries (S3/E1)

The Lean Startup / Eric Ries (S3/E1)

Alex and Wais discuss Eric Ries' game-changing book The Lean Startup: How Constant Innovation Creates Radically Successful Businesses (2011). The book (finally) offered software developers and technology entrepreneurs an alternative to the resource-heavy and time-consuming waterfall methodology and has since become a staple of any startup. But is it all its really cracked up to be?
Jan 31, 202301:16:20
Reflections (S2/E8)

Reflections (S2/E8)

In this final episode of the second season of the Innovation Book Club, Alex and Wais reflect on the ideas they’ve discussed over the previous seven episodes and how it’s helped to widen their understanding of innovation. They also talk about trainspotting briefly.

No links this time, but why not give us a 5-star review on your podcatcher of choice.

Aug 01, 202201:16:26
Towards a Theory of Play & Creativity / Charalampos Manemilis & Sarah Ronson (S2/E7)
Jul 11, 202201:27:55
The Diversity Bonus / Scott Page (S2/E6)
Jun 20, 202201:37:11
Onlyness / Nilofer Merchant (S2/E5)
May 30, 202201:29:54
Scenario Planning / Woody Wade (S2/E4)
May 09, 202201:31:31
Disruptive Innovation / Clayton Christensen et al (S2/E3)
Apr 18, 202201:55:18
Jobs to be done / Clayton Christensen et al (S2/E2)
Mar 28, 202201:42:30
Incremental, radical and meaning-based innovation / Roberto Verganti & Donald Norman (S2/E1)
Mar 07, 202201:30:11
What Creates Advantage in the Social Era? / Tim Kastelle, Nilofer Merchant & Martie-Louise Verreynne (S1/E6)

What Creates Advantage in the Social Era? / Tim Kastelle, Nilofer Merchant & Martie-Louise Verreynne (S1/E6)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss the paper ‘What creates advantage in the ‘social era’?’ by Tim Kastelle, Nilofer Merchant, and Martie-Louise Verreynne.

From the authors:
“We have observed the economy move from one where centralized organizations initiated value creation to one where that same value creation develops with the help of multiple outside, contributing networks. This tectonic shift means that all modern industries now have a different source of advantage. We have seen this documented in examples starting in the 1990s, when influencers enabled innovation platforms as business models, and continued to what we see today in the Social Era with crowdsourcing, open innovation and business models. The Social Era will reward those organizations that realize they shouldn’t create value alone. If the industrial era was about building things, the social era is about connecting things, people, and ideas.”

You can read the article here:
shorturl.at/fqCGN
Here’s Nilofer Merchant talking about her concept of ‘onlyness’: shorturl.at/zMQX0
Tim Kastelle’s Discipline of Innovation blog: timkastelle.org/

Here’s three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:
1, According to the authors, new ideas come from outside the core of the business. In your experience of work, do the truly successful ideas come from outside the core of the business or do they just come from the top of the leadership hierarchy?
2, Where does your company think it fits on the advantage map? Where do you think it fits on the advantage map?
3, How would you describe your ‘onlyness’?

Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com
Sep 09, 202101:38:51
Reflections / Alex Drago & Wais Pirzad (S1 E8)

Reflections / Alex Drago & Wais Pirzad (S1 E8)

Note: This episode won’t make much sense unless you’ve listened to the rest of the season first, so best to start there.


In this final episode of the first season of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad share their reflections on what they’ve learned from the previous seven episodes.


No questions for you this time, you get an easy ride.


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com

May 27, 202101:10:28
Evolving to a New Dominant Logic for Marketing / Stephen Vargo & Robert Lusch (S1/E7)

Evolving to a New Dominant Logic for Marketing / Stephen Vargo & Robert Lusch (S1/E7)

May 27, 202101:31:05
Third Industrial Revolution / Jeremy Rifkin (S1/E5)

Third Industrial Revolution / Jeremy Rifkin (S1/E5)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss a Vice documentary based on Jeremy Rifkin’s book The Third Industrial Revolution.


The book blurb:

“The Industrial Revolution, powered by oil and other fossil fuels, is spiralling into a dangerous endgame. The price of gas and food are climbing, unemployment remains high, the housing market has tanked, consumer and government debt is soaring, and the recovery is slowing. Facing the prospect of a second collapse of the global economy, humanity is desperate for a sustainable economic game plan to take us into the future.

Here, Jeremy Rifkin explores how Internet technology and renewable energy are merging to create a powerful "Third Industrial Revolution." He asks us to imagine hundreds of millions of people producing their own green energy in their homes, offices, and factories, and sharing it with each other in an "energy internet," just like we now create and share information online.

Rifkin describes how the five-pillars of the Third Industrial Revolution will create thousands of businesses, millions of jobs, and usher in a fundamental reordering of human relationships, from hierarchical to lateral power, that will impact the way we conduct commerce, govern society, educate our children, and engage in civic life.

Rifkin's vision is already gaining traction in the international community. The European Union Parliament has issued a formal declaration calling for its implementation, and other nations in Asia, Africa, and the Americas, are quickly preparing their own initiatives for transitioning into the new economic paradigm.

The Third Industrial Revolution is an insider's account of the next great economic era, including a look into the personalities and players — heads of state, global CEOs, social entrepreneurs, and NGOs — who are pioneering its implementation around the world.”


You can watch this here: shorturl.at/rxV01


Here’s three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:

1, Rifkin makes the case that the synergies created by innovations in energy, connectivity and transport systems powered previous industrial revolutions, created economic development and generated jobs. How convinced are you by his arguments?

2, Rifkin’s ideas about a green revolution and a distributed economy powered by renewable energy, the internet of things and connected transport networks are presented as the key way to generate economic growth. What else would need to change for his ideas to succeed?

3, What areas of your work could be improved by Rifkin’s ideas if they were adopted by your company?


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com


If you want to buy the book then consider supporting your local booksellers with Bookshop.org: shorturl.at/loxP4

Alternatively, if you want to give Jeff Bezos more of your hard-earned cash:

Amazon.co.uk: shorturl.at/cgjmB

Amazon.com: shorturl.at/yCORU

May 27, 202101:34:52
Creative Destruction / Joseph Schumpeter (S1/E4)

Creative Destruction / Joseph Schumpeter (S1/E4)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss Joseph Schumpeter’s ideas on Creative Destruction.


From Investopedia:

“The term creative destruction was first coined by Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter in 1942. Schumpeter characterized creative destruction as innovations in the manufacturing process that increase productivity, describing it as the "process of industrial mutation that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structure from within, incessantly destroying the old one, incessantly creating a new one."

Basically, the theory of creative destruction assumes that long-standing arrangements and assumptions must be destroyed to free up resources and energy to be deployed for innovation. To Schumpeter, economic development is the natural result of forces internal to the market and is created by the opportunity to seek profit.

Creative destruction theory treats economics as an organic and dynamic process. This stands in stark contrast with the static mathematical models of traditional Cambridge-tradition economics. Equilibrium is no longer the end goal of market processes. Instead, many fluctuating dynamics are constantly reshaped or replaced by innovation and competition.

As is implied by the word destruction, the process inevitably results in losers and winners. Producers and workers committed to the older technology will be left stranded. Entrepreneurs and workers in new technologies, meanwhile, will inevitably create disequilibrium and highlight new profit opportunities.

In describing creative destruction, Schumpeter was not necessarily endorsing it. In fact, his work is considered to be heavily influenced by The Communist Manifesto, the pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels which decried the bourgeoisie for its "constant revolutionizing of production [and] uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions."


Here’s a highbrow YouTube lecture on Schumpeter’s Creative Destruction: shorturl.at/rGU08

Here’s a lowbrow YouTube introduction to Schumpeter’s Creative Destruction: shorturl.at/qFZ23


Here’s three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:

1, To what extent do you agree with Schumpeter’s observations about how capitalism functions?

2, If you were a politician would you embrace creative destruction, reject it, or just try and manage its impact? Why?

3, When was the last time the sector you worked in experienced creative destruction? What will be the underlying factors that would have to change to make it happen again?


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com

May 27, 202101:36:60
A More Beautiful Question / Warren Berger (S1/E3)

A More Beautiful Question / Warren Berger (S1/E3)

In this episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss Warren Berger’s noted book A More Beautiful Question: The Power of Inquiry to Spark Breakthrough Ideas.


The book’s blurb:

“In this groundbreaking book, journalist and innovation expert Warren Berger shows that one of the most powerful forces for igniting change in business and in our daily lives is a simple, under-appreciated tool--one that has been available to us since childhood. Questioning--deeply, imaginatively, "beautifully"--can help us identify and solve problems, come up with game-changing ideas, and pursue fresh opportunities. So why are we often reluctant to ask "Why?"

Berger's surprising findings reveal that even though children start out asking hundreds of questions a day, questioning "falls off a cliff" as kids enter school. In an education and business culture devised to reward rote answers over challenging inquiry, questioning isn't encouraged--and, in fact, is sometimes barely tolerated.

And yet, as Berger shows, the most creative, successful people tend to be expert questioners. They've mastered the art of inquiry, raising questions no one else is asking--and finding powerful answers. The author takes us inside red-hot businesses like Google, Netflix, IDEO, and Airbnb to show how questioning is baked into their organizational DNA. He also shares inspiring stories of artists, teachers, entrepreneurs, basement tinkerers, and social activists who changed their lives and the world around them--by starting with a "beautiful question."


You can watch Berger talk about his book here: shorturl.at/elzCN


Here’s three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:

1, Why do you think Berger states that questions are now more valuable than answers?

2, When thinking about the innovation process, how is Berger’s ‘Why? What if? How?’ framework a useful guide?

3, What’s the question that you constantly return to? Is it a Why, what if or a how question?


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com


For some reason, this book isn’t available via Bookshop.org but you can give your hard-earned cash to Jeff Bezos here:

Amazon.co.uk: shorturl.at/wAFJ0

Amazon.com: shorturl.at/mwyX0

May 27, 202101:13:23
Theory of the Business / Peter Drucker (S1/E2)

Theory of the Business / Peter Drucker (S1/E2)

In the second episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss Peter Drucker’s seminal article, The Theory of the Business, originally published in Harvard Business Review in 1994.



The blurb:

“Peter F. Drucker argues that what underlies the current malaise of so many large and successful organizations worldwide is that their theory of the business no longer works. The story is a familiar one: a company that was a superstar only yesterday finds itself stagnating and frustrated, in trouble and, often, in a seemingly unmanageable crisis. The root cause of nearly every one of these crises is not that things are being done poorly. It is not even that the wrong things are being done. Indeed, in most cases, the right things are being done―but fruitlessly. What accounts for this apparent paradox? The assumptions on which the organization has been built and is being run no longer fit reality. These are the assumptions that shape any organization's behaviour, dictate its decisions about what to do and what not to do, and define what an organization considers meaningful results. These assumptions are what Drucker calls a company's theory of the business.”


You can read the article here: shorturl.at/als28

Peter Drucker’s Wikipedia page: shorturl.at/foAGH


Here are three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:

1, What is the theory of the business for the organisation you’re currently working in?

2, In your opinion, what are the assumptions your organisation gets right and gets wrong?

3, What are you working on ‘fruitlessly’?


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com


May 27, 202101:27:53
Where Good Ideas Come From / Steven Johnson (S1/E1)

Where Good Ideas Come From / Steven Johnson (S1/E1)

In this first and pilot episode of the Innovation Book Club, Alex Drago and Wais Pirzad discuss Steven Johnson’s book Where Good Ideas Come From: the Natural History of Innovation.


Here’s the blurb:

“Where do good ideas come from? And what do we need to know and do to have more of them? In Where Good Ideas Come From, Steven Johnson, one of our most innovative popular thinkers, explores the secrets of inspiration.

Steven Johnson has spent twenty years immersed in creative industries, was active at the dawn of the internet and has a unique perspective that draws on his fluency in fields ranging from neurobiology to new media. Why have cities historically been such hubs of innovation? What do the printing press and Apple have in common? And what does this have to do with the creation and evolution of life itself? Johnson presents the answers to these questions and more in his infectious, culturally omnivoracious style, using examples from thinkers in a range of disciplines - from Charles Darwin to Tim Berners-Lee - to provide the complete, exciting, and encouraging story of inspiration.

He identifies the six key principles to the genesis of great ideas, from the cultivation of hunches to the importance of connectivity and how best to make use of new technologies. Most exhilarating is his conclusion: with today's tools and environment, radical innovation is extraordinarily accessible to those who know how to cultivate it. By recognizing where and how patterns of creativity occur - whether within a school, a software platform or a social movement - he shows how we can make more of our ideas good ones.”


Steven Johnson’s TED talk on the book: shorturl.at/pOV48


Here’s three questions to help you reflect on what you’ve just heard:

  1. Steven Johnson defines innovation as the ‘adjacent possible’. In this case, ‘adjacent’ refers to a new idea and ‘possible’ refers to ideas that can be physically realised. Is this definition too simplistic to be useful? Why or why not?
  2. Steven Johnson makes the case that all new innovations are a product of their environment and that is dependent on six particular conditions: Liquid networks, the slow hunch, serendipity, error, exaptation, and platforms. Which of these conditions do you think are the most and least convincing and why?
  3. Finally, Steven Johnson argues that non-market and networked ideas have become the primary source of new innovations. How does knowing this change your perspective on the development of your own ideas?


Contact us: nadrago@gmail.com or wais.pirzad@gmail.com


If you want to buy the book then consider supporting your local booksellers with Bookshop.org: shorturl.at/vEI06

Alternatively, if you want to give Jeff Bezos more of your hard-earned cash:

Amazon.co.uk: shorturl.at/lmBGQ

Amazon.com: shorturl.at/jrIKX

May 27, 202101:35:26