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Trading Fours

By James Green

Trading Fours is a music podcast that focuses on musicians in Kansas City and around the world. Your host is Jamie Green. Jamie is a guitarist who plays with the 90's band Thunder Jacket. 

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Tanya Donelly with The Loyal Seas - Episode 105

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Carla Olson - Episode 110
The amazing Carla Olson (Textones) joins me to discuss 'Americana Railroad' - a collection of songs celebrating the history of train! This release features tracks from John Fogerty, Dave Alvin, Rocky Burnette, Stephen McCarthy and Brian Ray - among many others. Carla is fabulous musician and producer who has worked and collaborated with just about everyone in the music business it seems.  She dialed in from her home in Los Angeles to talk about the project, her collaborations with Eric Johnson, growing up in Austin, Texas and much much more- great chat, do it up!  Carla's Website Whiskey Train music video with Carla and Brian Ray The Trading Fours Podcast Webpage
June 24, 2022
Bodeans Kurt Neumann - Episode 109
The BoDeans Kurt Neumann joins me to talk about their new album, "The Last Time."  Kurt played all the instruments on the album and also produced it.  The album comes out on June 24. We also discuss his insightful podcast "Staring at the world". He's had guests like Miles Copeland, Kenny Arnoff and Steve Vai.  This is a deep dive into the creative process - a very interesting chat for sure! BoDeans website  Staring At the World Podcast Please join us in a good cause to honor the magnificent life of Molly Hammer. There is a benefit in her honor this Sunday June 12 at the Black Box Molly Singing Both Sides Now 
June 10, 2022
Sherri Chung- Episode 108
Sherri Chung is my guest today where we delve into the world of soundtrack composing.  Sherri is being honored this very week at NAMM as part of the She Rocks event, but that's only a small portion of the accolades she's getting! She's composed the new Kung Fu reboot, documentaries, movies and much more! Plus she's an accomplished pianist and singer. She zoomed in LA to talk about how she composes, demystifies the art of conducting, the work on the Keepers with her musical partner Blake Neely, and much more!  Great chat, do it up! Example of Rocky training scene without music Rocky scene with soundtrack score Star Wars without John Williams score 
June 03, 2022
Chastity Brown -Episode 107
Chastity Brown is an amazing singer-songwriter from Minneapolis.  She has a brand new album coming out on June 17, entitled "Sing to Walls".  We discuss the new album, her creative process and have a frank and open discussion about race in America in 2022.
May 27, 2022
Nicki Bluhm - Episode 106
Change can be hard, but it can also be triumphant! That's the case for today's guest, Nicki Bluhm, as she uprooted her life from San Francisco, moved to Nashville, in order to find her true authentic self. That change and growth is reflected her new album, Avondale Drive, set to drop on June 3rd.  Nicki zoomed from Nashville to talk all about the new album, how she's settling in in Nashville, creating a home studio, her YouTube clips and much more.  Great album, amazing chat, do it up! Trading Fours Website: 
May 20, 2022
Tanya Donelly with The Loyal Seas - Episode 105
It's Tanya Donelly Day on the podcast! As a Gen Xer, I couldn't have been more excited to talk to Tanya all about her new project, The Loyal Seas.  She zoomed in from the Greater Boston area to discuss the new album, how she handled lockdown, collaborating during COVID, college radio, Julia Child, Thoreau, Jack Kerouc and more! Great chat, do it up! Podcast Website:  Come see me this Saturday play in a walking boot for 3 hours!:
May 05, 2022
Nicki White - Episode 104
Nicki White is a Kansas City based singer songwriter with a heck of a story! She grew up in a musical family, lived in the famous Muscle Shoals area, and made a splash on a reality Tv show. Great chat with a really fun artist! Tyson Leslie joins me briefly to talk about PurpleJam IV - his tribute concert to Prince that is for a very good cause! Watch my entire conversation with Tyson here: Podcast website: 
April 28, 2022
Andy Timmons - Episode 102
The great Andy Timmons joined me for over an hour to talk all about his new album, Light of Love! We also discuss his favorite artists, surviving as a musician in the time of covid, and much much more! Andy first came upon my radar in the late 80s when he was a member of Danger Danger, but that's just small part of his amazing career!  The Andy Timmons Band, The Pawn Kings, Olivia Newton John are just SOME of the projects he's been involved in.  One of my favorite episodes ever! Great guy, do it up!
April 28, 2022
Graeme James- Episode 103
It's Graeme James day on the podcast! He joined me all the way from Amsterdam to discuss his new album, "Seasons".James is a native of New Zealand, who now calls Europe home.  We discussed this, the new album, becoming a father during Covid, and much more!graemejamesmusic.compodcast website:
April 15, 2022
Andy Timmons - Episode 102
The monster guitarist Andy TImmons joins me to talk all about his new album, Electric Truth!Andy has been on my radar since the late 80's when he burst on the scene with Danger Danger- but that's just a small portion of his amazing career.  The Andy Timmons Band, The Pawn Kings, being Olivia Newton John's musical director -he's done it all.Andy zoomed in from his studio in McKinney Texas to talk all about the new album, how he became a video pro due to the pandemic, great musicians from his home state of Indiana, great guitarists from his adopted state of Texas and MUCH MUCH more.  Truly one of the nicest and most gracious guitarists in the business - this one was a total treat! his new album, Electric Truth: Danger Danger days: Fours Podcast website:
April 08, 2022
Andy Aledort Returns! - Episode 101
The great Andy Aledort is a fave of this podcast, because he's a super cool guy who is also incredibly generous with his time.  He's been on before to talk about his Stevie Ray Vaughan book and to discuss the passing of EVH - but this is the first chance we've gotten to discuss his music!Andy has an amazing new DOUBLE ALBUM  (yes you read that right) called "Light of Love".  It's a beautiful album that was decades in the making - but well worth the wait.Andy talks all about the new album, including how he got to utilize the famous Double Trouble rhythm section, knowing Stevie Ray, his thoughts on the passing of Pat Martino, and much much more! Great album, even better dude - do it up! Andy Aledort website: Fours Podcast website:
April 01, 2022
Danielle Nicole Band - Episode 100
We've hit a milestone! 100 episodes of this podcast, and I can't think of a better way to celebrate than to talk to one of the best bands out there, the Danielle Nicole Band!I went over to the DNB rehearsal space to talk Danielle (lead vocals, bass) Brandon (guitars, backing vocals) and Go-Go Ray (drums) about new music,  getting ready to get out on the road, and how they spent their time during the lockdown.Great chat, some of the best musicians and nicest people out there!Band website:'s sponsor is GarageDoor Apparel! Utilize the promo code "tradingfours" to get 20% off your order on their website:
March 05, 2022
Lydia's Castle- Episode 99
Nashville based rock band Lydia's Castle joins us to talk about their new single "Phoenix".  Singer Tonya LeAnne and guitarist Cody Denton talk about how the band was put together, being a married couple in a band and how grief was the impetus for beginning Lydia's Castle.A very honest and open chat about loss and rebirth. Fours Podcast website:
February 26, 2022
Rain Perry - Episode 98
The issue of race is a topic that makes many of us squeamish.  But today's guest overcame her trepidation to release the album "A White Album" where she challenges us to talk about race with empathy and grace.  Rain is an amazing storyteller, not only does she release interesting and intriguing music, she also has a podcast based on her childhood called "Cinderblock Bookshelves" that she originally had written as a play.We delve into race, her childhood, the podcast and Spotify on this episode. Great chat! Fours Podcast website:
February 19, 2022
The Whitmore Sisters- Episode 97
The people we know the longest in our lives are our siblings.  And that can be a complicated relationship.  Today's guests, Eleanor and Bonnie Whitmore have had their ups and downs- including a "sibling divorce" at one point.  But lucky for us, they've patched things up and now are collaborating on a new album called Ghost Stories.We talk all about how the album came to be, how music can be a salve when dealing with grief, and Paul McCartney's bass playing, because, why not? website: My acoustic duo:
February 12, 2022
Laura Noble - Episode 96
Today's guest is the Kansas City singer Laura Noble.  She's great performer who was born in the Dominican Republic, with a stop in NYC before making Kansas City home.She combines her homelands music with American pop to make her unique sound!  She's also recorded with Kansas City's own TechN9ne!  Really fun chat, do it up! Fours website:
February 05, 2022
KG Miles - Episode 95
Welcome back peeps! I'm back from winter break and we start the ball rolling talking Bob Dylan!  Today's guest is the author KG Miles, author of "Bob Dylan in the Big Apple - Troubadour Tales of New York."Be sure to like, subscribe and give a 5 star rating to the podcast!  Todays' links: Miles: Fours podcast website: 
January 29, 2022
John McCutcheon - Episode 94
On this Christmas Day, we welcome in the fabulous singer/songwriter/mutli-instrumentalist John McCutcheon!John has a new album out, 'Bucket List'.  We discuss meditation - both the standard way, and how music can be meditative.  His Christmas song, Christmas in the Trenches, which explores the impromptu soccer game between British and German troops in the First World War.We also discuss the amazing Pete Seeger, and how brave he was during the Red Scare. Really enjoyed this one! Be sure to like and subscribe! I'm back on February 1, 2022
December 25, 2021
Matthew Sweet - Episode 93
Who is the most famous person from you high school? For mine, it's either Royals outfielder Alex Gordon or today's guest Matthew Sweet. No offense to Alex, but I was a lot more excited to talk to Matthew! He's had an amazing career of over 3 decades writing and performing rock and pop classics. He dialed in to talk all about his new album Catspaw, surviving the pandemic, moving back home to Nebraska, growing up in Lincoln, his duets with Susanna Hoffs and much more! Really loved this chat, do it up!
December 16, 2021
Josh Hoyer
Josh Hoyer is a force of nature- with a voice that evokes Motown and Memphis, a band with horns and a whole lot of funk, he's coming to The Ship on December 17 from 7-11pmJosh and I apparently grew up about 4 blocks from each other.  We delve into growing up in Lincoln, living in New Orleans for a bit, being on the Voice, recording his latest album in Denver and his new album he's starting on soon! 
December 10, 2021
Lyle Workman - Episode 91
What makes a movie special? One of the key components is the music.  Today's guest, Lyle Workman has written the musical score to many popular movies, including Superbad, 40 Year Old Virgin, and many many more.  Lyle also is terrific solo artist, his latest album - Uncommon Measures - was recorded with a 63 piece orchestra at the hallowed ground that is Abbey Road.   Lyle was a total joy to chat with, you are going to dig this one.
December 04, 2021
Pure XTC - Episode 90
We've all been in bad relationships, right? Ones that are toxic. So how do you handle it?  Well, if you're Pure XTC, you channel that toxicity into a great EP! Pure XTC is Taylor Hughes, a native of Baltimore who lived in NYC before making KC her home.   We had a great chat!
November 27, 2021
Belle & The Vertigo Waves - Episode 89
The great Kansas City rock group, Belle & The Vertigo Waves are today's guest! Belle & Jeremiah join host Jamie Green to talk all about their new single, surviving the pandemic, hosting their own podcast, having a family member for a band member, Davey's Uptown, and so much more - great chat, do it up! Website: Social Media:FB - - @vertigowaves TWITTER - @vertigowaves TIK TOK - @vertigowaves YOUTUBE -
November 20, 2021
Charles Williams - Episode 88
The amazing Kansas City pianist joins host Jamie Green and special co-host Paula Saunders Lewis to talk about growing up in KCK, how he handled lockdown, all the great acts he got to see, and how he's traveled the world playing! Great chat, do it up!
November 13, 2021
Casi Joy - Episode 87
Casi Joy is a joy! She zoomed in from Smithville to talk all about her tour bus home, growing up as a jock, playing the Plaza lighting ceremony and much more! We had a blast - you're going to really dig this one!
November 06, 2021
Ty Tabor- Episode 86
It's Trading Fours 2 year anniversary, and I cannot think of a better way of celebrating than having the amazing guitarist, singer and songwriter Ty Tabor stop by!  You know him from Kings X, Jellyjam and his solo work.  Ty came by my house to discuss turning 60, how he handled lockdown, how Kings X influenced the Seattle sound and why he loves Kansas City.  Great dude, amazing chat-  do it up!
October 29, 2021
Warren Huart - Episode 85
We're back in LA today to talk to Warren Huart, a record producer, musician, composer, engineer and more!  Warren runs an amazing website Produce Like A Pro, which gives great tips on how to make your home recordings sound professional.  In addition his prolific YouTube tips has amazing interviews, producing insights and breaks down iconic songs.  Great guy, great chat- do it up!
October 23, 2021
Zoe Roarz- Episode 84
Do you think rock n roll is dead? Well today's guest, Zoe Roarz, does not.  Zoe is a great young singer, guitarist and songwriter who "wants to make as much noise as possible." We discuss how she got into music, who she listens to, her new album and more!'s sponsor is OurHouse KC:
October 16, 2021
Lawrence Gowan of Styx- Episode 83
It's Styx day on Trading Fours! Vocalist and keyboardist Lawrence Gowan dialed in from on the road to talk all about their new album, why the critics now love them and how they are staying safe while on the road.  Great guy, fun chat, do it up!
October 09, 2021
Bluhauz - Episode 82
I'm back! Did you miss me? The summer hiatus is over and to celebrate we've got Bluhauz in the house!  He's a Miami based singer and guitarist who grew up in Argentina.  We talk all about his new debut album, how he went to Berklee School of Music, AND how Jimmy Page showed up at his graduation.  Great chat, do it up!Email me with comments or suggestions: tradingfourskc@gmail.com
October 02, 2021
Eric Dover- Episode 81
The great guitarist and singer Eric Dover joined me to talk all about his new project, Lickerish Quartet, Sextus, Imperial Drag and of course, Jellyfish!  Eric is an amazing musician, a very nice guy who also has a great sense of humor.  We had a blast.  Do it up! Listen to all the episodes and contact me here: Today's sponsor:
August 20, 2021
Lonnie McFadden - Episode 80
Today it's Lonnie McFadden day on Trading Fours! Lonnie McFadden is Kansas City jazz royalty in this town.  He's a great trumpeter, singer, tap dancer and entertainer! Lonnie joined me to talk all about his new amazing club, "Lonnie's Reno Club" - that is in the basement of Ambassador Hotel!  He honors the amazing history of Kansas City jazz through song.   And talk about history, we TALK ABOUT HISTORY!  We also discuss Kansas City today.  Great chat, do it up! of the Blue Devils movie: Severinsen Documentary:'s sponsor is Campfire audio!:
August 14, 2021
Doug "Cosmo" Clifford - Episode 79
We've got a Rock n Roll Hall of Famer in the house! Doug "Cosmo" Clifford joins host Jamie Green to talk all about his new album "For All the Money In The World", that sat in his vault for 35 years, but now is seeing the light of day!  This album features not only Doug, but the late Steve Wright on bass, with the Greg Kihn Band.  It also includes an all-star cast of other musicians.  We talk all about the album, the importance of collaborating, growing up in Oakland, and what is means to him personally to be in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.  Great guy, fun chat- do it up! 
August 07, 2021
Nobody's Girl's BettySoo- Episode 78
It's Nobody's Girl day on the podcast. This Austin based trio bring the heat with their new album, that was released just yesterday! Band member BettySoo dialed in to talk all about the new album, her bandmates and how they came together, playing shows out again AND their amazing time in Austin. PLUS - we discover we have a very close connection. Great chat, do it up! the podcast? Give it a review! It helps with traffic. You can find all the podcast episodes on the website: 
July 31, 2021
Chris McLernon returns! - Episode 77
Chris McLernon (Saigon Kick, Cold Sweat) returns to Trading Fours to discuss his guitar repair hobby that's turning into a non-profit, his new album! AND.....getting left by the tour bus in the middle of Texas We also discuss how Wolfgang Van Halen should deal with social media, and much more.  Great guy, great chat, do it up!
July 24, 2021
Wayne Sutton - Episode 76
Austin-based guitarist, singer/songwriter Wayne Sutton joins me on Trading Fours!  I first became aware of Wayne WAY back in the early 1990s when I lived in Austin and he was in the amazing band Sister 7 (then known as Little Sister).  Wayne has a new album out called 'Blue Worm'.  We discuss that, his album last year with Patrice Pike called 'Heart Is a Compass" - which included my favorite song of 2020 'Bright as the Sun'.  We also discuss Austin in the early 1990s, Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians, become a teacher and more!  Great dude, fun chat- do it up! Sister back In the day:
July 17, 2021
Everclear's Art Alexakis - Episode 75
Everclear's Art Alexakis joins host Jamie Green to talk all about their show here in Kansas City on July 18!  The Summerland Tour includes Everclear, Living Colour, Hobastank and Wheatus.  They are all playing at Grinders here in KC on July 18.Art and I talk all about that, touring, fatherhood, and dealing with his MS.  Great chat, do it up!
July 10, 2021
Desmond Mason - Episode 74
It's Desmond Mason day on Trading Fours!  Desmond is an amazing keyboardist, producer and beat maker!  We talk all about his career, some tough love from Bobby Watson, playing up on the Liberty Memorial and MUCH more.  Desmond is the real deal, check it out!
July 03, 2021
Sara Morgan - Episode 73
Sara Morgan is one of the hottest  acts in Kansas City.  She joins host Jamie Green to discuss her new album, actually going to church in a bar, her childhood and much more.  Great chat with the rising country star.  Do it up!
June 24, 2021
Lara Hope - Episode 72
It's a roots rock day on the podcast!  Lara Hope of Lara Hope and the Ark-Tones joins host Jamie Green to talk about their new album "Here to Tell the Tale." They also discuss what's the difference between roots rock and rockabilly, Brian Setzer, playing the Westport Inn in Kansas City and much more!
June 19, 2021
The Jenny Thing - Episode 71
The Jenny Thing's Matt Easton joins host Jamie Green to talk about their new album, American Canyon!  Matt and Jamie geek out about home studio recording, Star Search, San Fran bands, food and much more.  Great chat, do it up!
June 12, 2021
James DiGirolamo - Episode 70
Nashville Singer/Songwriter James DiGirolamo dialed in to talk all about is new Ep Paper Boats!  We discuss the EP,  growing up in the northeast,  the craft of songwriting and much more!  Great, EP - great chat, do it up! to my Patreon page for exclusive videos and transcripts:
June 05, 2021
DeAnn - Episode 69
Covid has changed all of our worlds - and in the case of DeAnn - in both positive and negative ways.  DeAnn came over to my house to be my first indoor interview in over 14 months.  We talk about her childhood, her career, her creativity and also personal tragedy with Covid.  Great, heart-filled chat - do it up! the podcast with Patreon - details here:'s party at Lemonade Park info:
May 29, 2021
Jedd Chlebowski
Bassist Jedd Chlebowski joins host Jamie Green to discuss his album, collaborating with people like Vernon Reid, Doug Wimbish, Kenny Arnoff, Gilby Clarke and many others! Jamie's 90s tribute band Thunder Jacket this summer and get a 10% discount when you email the band at: To get the discount you must put the subject line Trading Fours.  *Only valid in the Kansas City metro area for June 2021, July 2021 and August 2021 Support the podcast on Patreon!
May 22, 2021
Nuthin' But A Good Time Author Tom Beaujour -Episode 67
Imagine a time where almost all of the most popular bands on the planet not only knew each other, but also had played in the same clubs - and in some instances- even played in each other bands.  The book 'Nothin' But A Good Time' - documents this era- the 1980s on Hollywood Sunset Strip.  The bands are now household names- Guns N Roses, Poison, Motley Crue and more!  But years before they were on MTV they were on the Sunset Strip hanging flyers on telephone polls, fighting other bands and their own bandmates.  The book will bring back a lot of memories for those of you who were alive back then.  For those who weren't- buckle up!  Co-author Tom Beaujour joined host Jamie Green to talk all about the book
May 16, 2021
Maia Sharp - Episode 66
Change can be hard; it also can spark creativity.  In the case of Maia Sharp, a move to Nashville after the end of a 21 year marriage was the catalyst for her new album.  We discuss the new album, the craft of songwriting, her move to Nashville and much more!"I think I have my favorites then another slays me. Maia is a master in her absolute prime — out of the ballpark once again, but this one really ignites everything that is different and brilliant about her writing, singing, songwriting and production. I’m running out of superlatives! " - Bonnie Raitt 
May 09, 2021
Angela Ward - Episode 65
Angela ward joins host Jamie Green to discuss her family band, the JWB.  Angela plays keys, her husband James is on bass and their son Jaylen is on drums! They make really fun videos on YouTube: also discuss Angela's Florida roots, the fabulous musicians in Kansas City and her work with children. Great episode, do it up!
May 02, 2021
The Moon Kids - Episode 64
Lead Singer David Barr of the Scottish Band "The Moon Kids" joins me to talk all about their new EP "Ride with the Hurricanes".  Great chat, do it up and subscribe to the podcast!
April 25, 2021
Jillian Riscoe - Episode 63
It's Jillian Riscoe day on the podcast! She's a Kansas City singer/songwriter who taps into her own life experiences -which are sometime painful - to create her music. We talk about that, how she is navigating the soon to be post-COVID world, her friendship with previous guest Emma Jo and much more! jillianriscoe.comThis episode brought to you by Governor Stumpy's in Waldo: www.governorstumpys.comLike and subscribe to the podcast!
April 17, 2021
Billy Decker - Episode 62
The Nashville music engineer and producer Billy Decker joins me to talk about his new book 'Template Mixing and Mastering: The Ultimate Guide to Achieving a Professional Sound'.  Billy is one of the hottest mixers and engineers in the music business - in large part because of the speed he can mix and master his tracks.  He does that by already having templates established for his tracks.  We also talk about being friends for 35 years - way back to the days of hanging out and playing guitar in Lincoln, NE, his battle with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma and much more.  Lastly, I premier the new theme song for the podcast, 'Kansas City' which is made up of musicians that were guests on the podcast!  They are known as the "Trading Fours All-Stars"-  Laura Ellis (Episode 28) Lead Vocals, Go-Go Ray (Episode 37) drums, Blake Eberhard (Episode 44)  bass, Tyson Leslie (Episode 23) piano and hammond B3, Bobby Harris (Episode 11) saxophone and me on guitars! www.billydecker.com and review the podcast! 
April 11, 2021
Mensa Deathsquad's Brandon Phillips - Episode 61
Do you say "How are you doing?" I'm guessing yes - and for most of us, the answer is usually "Fine" and it moves on.  For Mensa Deathsquad's Brandon Phillips- the answer isn't fine.  He deals with Crohn's Disease and was hospitalized for months.  Even with all that, Brandon continues to create- and his Mensa Deathsquad his one man band.  The new album is "Cyclist" and we will talk all about that too.  If you ever wanted what it's like to deal with a chronic illness and STILL be creative, this episode is for you.  The most real and raw conversation yet on Trading Fours. sure to like and subscribe to the podcast! 
April 04, 2021
Emma Jo - Episode 51
Kansas City singer/songwriter Emma Jo joins host Jamie Green to discuss her new music and much more 
March 29, 2021
Alyssa Murray - Episode 60
Alyssa Murray joins me to talk all about her new EP "Half and Half".  Super fun chat where we discuss the new music, what made her pivot to adding production along with playing to her credits, collaborating with her boyfriend, Jeff Buckley, Fiona Apple and more! Great chat!  Do it up! Jamie for his live discussion with the Nashville engineer and producer Billy Decker - LIVE on Facebook and YouTube on Tuesday March 30 at 7pm CDT: on Billy Decker: www.billydecker.comLike and Subscribe the podcast! 
March 28, 2021
Walking Paper's Jefferson Angell - Episode 59
Walking Paper's Jefferson Angell dialed in to talk all about their new album, The Light Below.  We chat all about the new album, growing up in Seattle (including getting a front row seat to watch the Seattle music scene explode in the early 1990s).  We also discuss carpentry, and the Kansas City stomp.  Great dude, fun chat!
March 21, 2021
DeAndre Manning- Episode 58
We are back in Kansas City to highlight the amazing bassist DeAndre Manning!  We talk all about his musical upbringing - including his famous Aunt who is one of the most sampled people in hiphop! DeAndre also talks about how you can both honor the history of Kansas City jazz AND move it forward to create a new Kansas City sound.  Great dude, we had a ton of  fun chatting! DeAndre's music playlist: a reservation to see DeAndre live at the Hey Hey Club:'s Aunt Marva Whitney: Kris Schnebelen with his battle with cancer:  Venmo: @Kristopher-SchnebelenPayPal: Registry: Mail: PO Box 1152, Lee’s Summit, MO 64063
March 14, 2021
Nina Herzog- Episode 57
The singer/songwriter Nina Herzog joins me for the latest episode of Trading Fours! Nina has her debut EP coming out "Together Away." - This six song debut tells a story about unconditional love - and even when you are far away from people you love, yet you are connected no matter what.We talk all about the new EP, her experience visiting Kansas City while on tour, her influences and much more! sure to like and subscribe the podcast! 
March 07, 2021
Jason Falkner - Episode 56
The amazing Jason Falkner dialed in from his back porch in LA to give an update on what he's working on - AND talk all about his amazing career - Jellyfish, Beck, Paul McCartney, Susanna Hoffs, R. Stevie Moore and much more!  One of my favorite musicians - he sings, he plays guitar, piano, drums, bass etc.  Writes, records and produces music in his home studio: you're going to really enjoy this one!Jason's Spotify channel: song: song:
February 28, 2021
Ian Rankin - Episode 55
Today the international best-selling crime novelist Ian Rankin joins Trading Fours to talk all about the music of his John Rebus series.  The Rolling Stones, Van Morrison,  Jackie Leven references and many others are found throughout the John Rebus mystery series.  The creator of that series, Ian Rankin, joins host Jamie Green to talk all about how music has affected his life and in turn, the life of John Rebus.  Besides those great bands above, we also discuss The Cure AND how Johnny Cash may be in fact - Scotland's greatest contribution to music. Great chat, do it up!
February 21, 2021
Beyond The Grey - Episode 54
Today it's Beyond The Grey on Trading Fours!  Singer David Lingenfelter and guitarist Scott Cameron join me as we talk all about their new EP, 'At One'.  Great chat, do it up! Follow the Band!:Facebook: @beyondthegreykcWebsite:
February 14, 2021
Damon Johnson - Episode 53
Today it's Damon Johnson day on the podcast!  He's got a new album out, "Battle Lessons", with his new band "Damon Johnson & the Get Ready."  We talk about the new album, his days in Brother Cane, Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy and a special Kansas City story!  Great guy, hard rockin album - do it up!
February 07, 2021
Danny Embrey - Episode 52
Today's guest is the amazing jazz guitarist Danny Embrey!  He has an amazing career who has played with just about every jazz musician in town and a lot around the world.  We talk about Sergio Mendes, Karyn Allison, Wes Montgomery and how I was as his student!  Great guy, great chat, do it up! Danny soloing with Angela Hagenbach Danny playing with Sergio Mendes in 1980
January 21, 2021
Tim Smith -Episode 50
It's Tim Smith day on the podcast! Lickerish Quartet, Finn Brothers, Sheryl Crowe and more!  I also remember the amazing life of Molly Hammer. Make a donation in Molly Hammer's name:
December 19, 2020
Chris McLernon - Episode 49
It's Chris McLernon day on Trading Fours! Cold Sweat, Saigon Kick, Eddie Van Halen, repairing guitars and more!  Super cool dude, really enjoyed this one -and you Van Halen nerds are REALLY going to dig his EVH stories!
December 15, 2020
Slim Gambill- Episode 48
Today's guest is the amazing guitarist Slim Gambill!  You probably know him as lead guitarist for the multi platinum recording artist, Lady A, but he does much more!  He's got 2 solo albums out in the last 2 years, and has a really cool collaboration to raise funds for COVID-19 musician relief.  Great guy, really fun chat, do it up! Please subscribe and give me a rating wherever you listen to podcasts!
December 03, 2020
Joanna Berkebile- Episode 47
It's Joanna Berkebile day on the podcast!   Her quartet has a new album out, called "Love me or Leave me" - we talk all about that, her opera background, and much more!  Do it up! Email the podcast: Subscribe!: Subscribe!:
November 18, 2020
Oz Noy - Episode 46
It's Oz Noy day on Trading Fours!  He's the great jazz fusion guitarist, who was born and raised in Israel but now makes NYC home.  We discuss his new album Snapdragon and a whole lot more!  Do it up! Subscribe!: Subscribe!:
November 14, 2020
Nick May - Episode 45
Today it's all about the saxophone!  Nick May joins me to talk about the saxophone, but not only jazz saxophone, his amazing work on classical saxophone.  Also, an attempted murder of the inventor of saxophone! Subscribe!: Subscribe!:
November 11, 2020
Blake Eberhard - Episode 44
It's Trading Fours first anniversary!  Help me celebrate by listening to my conversation with the great bassist, Blake Eberhard! We talk Dr. John, Vince Gill, John Denver and much much more! Subscribe to the podcast!
October 31, 2020
Remembering Eddie Van Halen
Tonight we had a great discussion on Facebook live about the incredible legacy of Eddie Van Halen!  Andy Aledort, Caleb Rapoport and Brad Nye joined me for a live panel discussion of their personal experiences with the guitar god.  A great chat celebrating an amazing life.  You don't want to miss it!
October 28, 2020
Dorian Foyil with AliensDontRingDoorbells - Episode 42
What do you get when you combine an American with two Brits, sprinkled in with two Caribbean guys? You get Aliensdontringdoobells! This new band is super fun, with great harmonies and catch melodies.  Their guitarist Dorian Foyil joined me on the phone to talk about this fun new band.  Great guy, great band- do it up!
October 17, 2020
Neil Giraldo - Episode 41
Today's episode was a special treat as Neil Giraldo joined me for a LIVE chat on Facebook and YouTube.  Neil is an amazing guitarist, songwriter, performer and much more! Join us as we chat about his music career, his bourbon company, his philanthropy and much much more! Today's Sponsor is Garage Door Apparel Company - and are offering 20% off when you use the code TRADINGFOURS:
October 14, 2020
Kyle Sexton Band - Episode 40
Members of the Kyle Sexton Band join me out on my deck for a fun conversation in person Kyle Sexton (singer and guitarist) and Clay Johnson (bassist) bring funny stories, a couple songs, and a 6 pack of beer for this fun conversation.  Great dudes, do it up! Join me for my live interview with Neil Giraldo!:
October 04, 2020
Jeff Freling & Erin McGrane - Episode 39
You know them as 'Victor & Penny', but that's just one of the great shows my guests Jeff Freling & Erin McGrane perform! Great chat, do it up!  Purchase tickets for the livestream of Victor & Penny on Sat Sep 26 w Grand Marquis at Lemonade Park: The Fabebook event page : Erin's website : Jeff's website:
September 25, 2020
Alberto Racanati - Episode 38
What do you get when you combine classical trumpet with electronic music? You get Alberto Racanati!  A native of Italy, Alberto came to Kansas City to get his doctorate.  While here, he discovered his love of creating electronic music, and how he could pair it with his classical trumpet playing.  The result was "Alber", which you can find on Spotify and many other places.  Really interesting chat, do it up!
September 17, 2020
Go-Go Ray - Episode 37
It's Go-Go Ray day on Trading Fours! Go-Go is an amazing drummer, who has been a big part of the KC music scene since the mid-90s.  Billy Goat, Samantha Fish, Brandon Miller, Heather Newman and Casi Joy are just a FEW of the acts he's worked with.  Great guy, amazing drummer, it was a blast talking to him!
August 31, 2020
Frank Hicks - Pete Jones - Episode 36
Today's a double header as I talk to the owner of Knuckleheads, Frank Hicks about the state of live music during COVID - and I check in with Pete Jones, the guitarist of the Manhattan KS based band Head Space. They've got a new album out!
August 28, 2020
Brandon Miller - Episode 35
Today it's Brandon Miller day on Trading Fours!  He's a great guitarist, singer and songwriter.  You know him as the guitarist for the Danielle Nicole Band AND for his work in his own band the Brandon Miller band. He's got a new album out, called 'Virtue and Vice' - it's great! We talk about that, playing in bars at 13, playing a Les Paul, THE Les Paul, Jerry's Bait Shop, Eddie Money and much more!
August 21, 2020
Melinda Hedgecorth - Episode 34
Life is about taking chances, and getting out of your comfort zone! Today's guest is the Flamenco dancer Melinda Hedgecorth!  She's a Kansas City native, who after a short stint in Seattle after college, moved to Seville Spain to follow her dream.  Melinda spent 11 years in Spain, before recently moving home to KC. We talk about this in this special episode .  (special shoutout to the guitarist Beau Bledsoe for the awesome music for the episode)
August 15, 2020
Katherine Turman - Episode 33
Hey everyone! Today we talk to the amazing rock journalist Katherine Turman! She's a producer of the syndicated radio show 'Nights with Alice Cooper" and the co-author of the great book: "Louder than Hell: The Definitive Oral History of Heavy Metal".  We have a great chat where we talk about the book, Alice Cooper, Van Halen, The Flaming Lips and much MUCH more. Great chat, do it up! Email me to tell me what you like/dislike about the show! :
August 09, 2020
Hadrien Feraud - Episode 32
The amazing bassist Hadrien Feraud is my guest today!  He's played with just about everyone - John McLaughlin, Chick Corea, Mike Stern just to name a few. He is hanging out with his parents at his hometown of Paris, France until we get the all clear.  And and is even getting to play some gigs over there.  We discuss this, being compared to Jaco, and much more!
August 05, 2020
Andy Aledort - Episode 31
Today is Andy Aledort on Trading Fours! Amazing guitarist, journalist and teacher.  He's played with rock royalty, Dickie Betts, Mitch Mitchell, Paul Rodgers and many more -but right now he's probably best known as the co-author of the definitive Stevie Ray Vaughan book - Texas Flood.  We discuss this and much more, great guy - fun chat - do it up!
August 02, 2020
Amber "Flutienastiness" Underwood - Episode 30
It's Flutienastiness day on Trading Fours! Amber Underwood is my guest!  She's an amazing flutist, music educator and performer.  She's got a new album coming out this month.  Join us as we talk about her transition from classical flute to jazz, her teaching, her performing and much much more! Super fun to talk to her -do it up!
July 22, 2020
Johnny Goudie - Episode 29
Today's guest is the great podcaster & musician Johnny Goudie! Johnny is the host of the ultra cool podcast "How did I get here?" - but he's also an amazing singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist.  Join us as we talk about his podcast, his music career and much more- cool dude, fun talk - do it up!
July 18, 2020
Laura Ellis - Episode 28
Today's guest is my "sista from another mista" Laura Ellis! A Kansas City native who has lived in Los Angeles for the past 25 years.  She's a fabulous singer, dancer and performer.  This one is a special one, be sure to listen in!
July 05, 2020
Doug Auwarter - Episode 27
Today's guest is the amazing drummer Doug Auwarter! Whether he's drumming with the Sons of Brasil, actually traveling and playing IN Brazil, or playing some drums for the legendary George Burns, Doug brings his A-game.  Join us as we talk about drumming, his background, why he's so interested in Brazil, and the amazing contributions of African-Americans in American music.
July 02, 2020
Ian Moore- Episode 26
Episode 26 is Ian Moore! This is a really special one for me! Ian Moore, a guy who I've followed for over 3 decades - he's a great guitarist, songwriter and singer -plus a really, really nice guy.  Join me as we check in with him and his thoughts on the world today, the songwriting process, how he's keeping busy and more - Great dude, great conversation, be sure to listen!
June 17, 2020
Ray Gehring - Episode 25
Today's guest is Ray Gehring, a jazz guitarist based in New York City! Turns out Ray Gehring also went to high school with me in Lincoln, Nebraska, where he was a punk rock dude! We talk about his journey from punk rock in Lincoln to jazz music through Minneapolis to New York! Fun talk to get caught up with a classmate who is super talented.
June 15, 2020
Ron Jackson - Episode 24
June 09, 2020
Tyson Leslie - Episode 23
Today's episode is with the great keyboardist, singer and writer Tyson Leslie!  He was a staple on the Kansas City scene for years, but for the past 6 years he's been in Nashville. He's done a bunch of cool things, including currently being the keyboardist of Vixen.  We chat about lots of great things, including his live shows, how YouTube monitors everything you post, his time in KC and much much more!
June 03, 2020
Payge Turner - Episode 22
Today's guest is my buddy Payge Turner! She's an amazing vocalist, songwriter and musician!  She was a longtime Kansas City resident who moved Seattle two years ago.  She's got a new EP coming out, she's a joy to talk to and has lots of great insights! Check her out - she's great! And yes, she's says she's sending me tracks to lay down tracks on -so I'm holding her to it.
May 29, 2020
Jacqueline Tabor - Episode 21
Today's guest is the amazing singer Jacqueline Tabor! Jacqueline calls Seattle home, and Seattle was one of the first cities hit hard by COVID.  Join me as we discuss how Jacqueline is handling the crisis, her shows online, her trip to Japan and much much more! Great chat, do it up!
May 27, 2020
Alan Paul - Episode 20
Today's guest is the author Alan Paul! Paul is the co-author of the great biography of Stevie Ray Vaughan, "Texas Flood".  We discuss all about Stevie Ray, and Alan's earlier books about the Allman Brothers Band, his time at Guitar World & his memoir of his time in China where he led a popular blues band.  Alan Paul's website Alan's recent interviews with artists: Reese Wynans Eric Krasno  Andy Aledort with Mike Flanigin at Antones Texas Flood Promo video:
May 23, 2020
Mark Slimm
There's a misconception that jazz is your parents or your grandparents music - today's guest Mark Slimm disproves this! Mark is 26 years old and the oldest member of his group,RSS trio. Join us as we talk about how Mark got into jazz, his playing the jazz organ and much more!
May 13, 2020
Jackie Myers
Today's guest is the amazing Jackie Myers - she sings, she plays awesome piano, she writes, she arranges, she does it all! Her new album is called "Clementine" - we discuss that, her life now in quarantine, and why she decided to make Kansas City home.  Great chat- do it up! Thunder Jacket live show info:
May 06, 2020
Kelley Hunt
Today's guest is the amazing singer, songwriter, pianist and guitarist Kelley Hunt! Kelley is utilizing Facebook live every Saturday for her "Connections Concerts".  Kelley talks about those, growing up in KC, Topeka and Lawrence, her first time as a lead vocalist and her new album.  Total joy to chat with Kelley - do it up!
April 25, 2020
John Salaway
Today we travel to Nashville to talk to John Salaway! He plays drums, sings, plays guitar, bass and much much more! We discuss his new album Americana Dreams, various collaborations and much more!
April 21, 2020
Roger Joseph Manning Jr.
Today it's Roger Joseph Manning Jr and his new project, The Lickerish Quartet! Roger has partnered with his old JellyFish bandmates Eric Dover and Tim Smith! Join us as we talk about The new EP, touring with Beck and yes- his days in JellyFish! Great guy, great talk - to it up! Jellyfish Live in 1993:
April 14, 2020
Ivory Blue
Today's guest of Trading Fours is the amazing performer and songwriter Ivory Blue!  Host Jamie Green chats with Ivory Blue about songwriting and the creative process, musical influences growing up, being creative during the quarantine and much much more.  Great chat, do it up!  Ivory Blue Website: Facebook: Venmo: Devin-Kessler-6 PayPal:  Instagram: @ivoryblue
April 08, 2020
Greg Renoff
Greg's new book 'Ted Templeman - A Platinum Producer's Life in Music" - comes out in just a few weeks.  Greg's previous book was "Van Halen Rising-  How A Southern California Backyard Party Band Saved Heavy Metal" This conversation is a must for anyone who loves late 20th century rock n roll! DO IT UP! YouTube Clip to listen to with the intro: Greg's Twitter: Greg's website:
April 03, 2020
Danielle Nicole
Season 2 starts off with a bang with the amazing Danielle Nicole of the Danielle Nicole Band! We discuss virtual shows at Knuckleheads, her musical family, favorite venues and much much more! Great singer and bassist, super conversation! Do it up!
March 31, 2020
How musicians and bar owners are dealing with the quarantine
Today we delve into how the music world in Kansas City is dealing with the in house quarantine order.  First I speak with the drummer Candice Hill, and then with Taps on Main co-owner Grant Tower. They are both working hard to adapt in these trying times. Candice Hill Facebook: Website: Taps on Main Facebook: website:
March 22, 2020
Bobby Harris of the Dazz Band
Special Episode 1is with Bobby Harris, Leader/Founder of the Grammy Award Winning Dazz Band! Join for a fascinating conversation where they discuss Harris growing up in Cleveland, his jazz influences, signing to a major label, his interactions with Marvin Gaye and Phillip Bailey&more!  Instagram: @thedazzband Website: Facebook:
March 19, 2020
Nicole Springer
Nicole Springer of the Nicole Springer Band is our guest for episode 10 of Trading Fours!  She talks about being raised in a Pentecostal home, performing in child beauty pageants and being thrown out and disowned by her family simply for being gay. Nicole is a fighter and a survivor - join us as we talk about her journey about healing, love and acceptance.  Do it up! Webpage: Facebook Page:
March 11, 2020
Paula Saunders
Episode 9 is with the amazing vocalist Paula Saunders!  Whether performing as jazz singer, or with groups such as Soul Revival or The Freedom Affair, Paula brings the goods!  Join us as we discuss her childhood in Wyandotte County, singing in church, traveling to Europe, and her collaborations with folks like Julian Vaughn.  Paula Saunders Facebook Page: YouTube Clip Singing 'At Last':
February 29, 2020
Episode 8 - The Summer Storms
Episode 8 features our first group, The Summer Storms! .  Join us as we talk about their influences, how it works having a married couple in a band, Amanda running the Kansas City Women's Music Network, their hosting of an open jam at Conroy's in Westwood and their plans to record a new album here in 2020. The Summer Storms website: The Summer Storms Facebook page: Kansas City Women's Music Network:
February 14, 2020
Stanton Kessler
Episode 7 of Trading Fours is with the great trumpeter Stanton Kessler!  A Kansas City native, Stanton has decades of playing in Kansas City.  He has great work with a number of groups, including Sons of Brasil, Passport, Parallax, Crossroads Quartet and many more!  Stanton's Website: Facebook page: Al Hirt's Sugar Lips: Chuck Mangione, "Feels So Good":
January 31, 2020
Episode 6 - Natalie Bates
Episode 6 features drummer  Natalie Bates! Natalie currently drums for Grand Marquis.  Join us as we discuss studying with Kansas City jazz greats Doug Auwarter and Bobby Watson. Natalie talks in depth about her current band, Grand Marquis. Also hear about Natalie work in graphic design.  Great talk, do it up!  Natalie Bates website: Grand Marquis website:
January 14, 2020
Episode 5 - Brock Alexander of the Old No. 5s
Episode 5 is with Brock Alexander, guitarist and vocalist of the Kansas City Group, The Old No. 5's.  Self described as a "powerful blues/rock/roots group", they reached the semifinals of the International Blues Competition in Memphis, TN in 2014.  In 2017, the repeated that feat .  Host Jamie Green talks to Brock about  Stevie Ray Vaughan, Brock's upbringing in Wichita, college, working in a bank, going to recording school, living in Phoenix, LA and Northern CA before returning home to KC.
December 31, 2019
Episode Four - Fred Wickham
Episode of four of Trading Fours is Fred Wickham!  Fred is a singer, guitarist and songwriter.  He first came to prominence with his band Hadacol. Now he plays as "Fred Wickham Caravan" - this band includes many of his closest friends. Host Jamie Green talks to Fred Wickham about his influences, opening for Merle Haggard, life on the road, owning Waylon Jennings' tour bus, and now recording a new album at the famous Muscle Shoals recording studios.  Great guy, great talk , do it up!
December 14, 2019
Episode 3- Alisa Jefferson
How does a woman navigate the uber macho world that is rock 'n roll?  Well, if that woman is Alisa Jefferson, the answer is "quite  easily".  Alisa is the lead singer and bassist of Radial Red, and the bassist of Mad Libby.  In this fun conversation with host Jamie Green, Alisa shares how she juggles two bands, and full-time job and a wife.  Great player, great singer, great person - do it up!
November 29, 2019
Episode 2; Jerry Hooper
When is it too late to follow your dreams?  For Jerry Hooper, the answer is 'never.'  Jerry worked in banking for over 4 decades, but his passion was piano. His dream was to play music professionally.  And he followed his dream. Join me as I talk to Jerry about how he made the leap from amateur pianist to professional piano player - all after the age of 60.
November 14, 2019
Episode 1 - Matt Hopper
Episode One of Trading Fours - Matt Hopper Matt Hopper is a Kansas City native who is an amazing jazz guitarist.  Host Jamie Green traveled to Matt's house to talk to him about his craft, including how he got started, who he listens to, and how he writes jazz compositions.   About Trading Fours: Trading Fours is a monthly music podcast that focuses on the Kansas City music scene.  Host Jamie Green interviews musicians with a Kansas City connection.
November 01, 2019