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The Laymens Lounge

The Laymens Lounge

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Podcast interviews for everyday Christians trying to navigate normal everyday stuff that make up our wonderful (yet often horrible) existence. Listen-in as we (an appliance salesman and a business process analyst) interview Theologians about normal stuff - a Theology of, and for, us laymen (you know, our stuff like: work, leisure, hiking, sex, fighting, art, beer, music, self-image, doubt, the Gospel, depression, sales, baseball, the church, hippies, annoying neighbors, family, etc.).
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(Ep. 64) Katherine Sonderegger: God’s Internal Fellowship Prior to Time and Creation
The Trinity is not a Mere Concept, Idea or Formula Questions to Dr. Sonderegger 1. What did God’s internal relationship look like as Father, Son and Spirit BEFORE anything was ever created? 2. Does understanding their pre-creation relationship explain why the Son was sent by the Father instead of the Son sending the Father to be incarnate and save us? 3. Explain Eternal generation and Is Eternal generation still happening? 4. Was creation some kind of overflow or byproduct of God’s internal relationship as Father, Son and Spirit? 5. When people believe the gospel they are placed in Christ. Since we are now one with Christ by the Spirit are we now in the Trinity? If we are in the Trinity by grace what does that mean for us? 6. After Christ return or the day of the Lord will the Trinity just get back to business as usual however with the difference only being the Son has a bride now? 7. What do you think it will be like to experience the Trinity forever in glory?
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May 12, 2021
(Ep. 63) Ross Hastings: What is Our Motivation & Fuel for Good Works?
Dr. Ross Hastings is a pure and utter delight and a fount of wisdom - a medium for compelling truth for the Christian just trying to make it through the day. Bombarded with temptations from within and without, how do we actually wage war, how do we “by the Spirit put to death the deeds of the flesh”, and is this moral battle itself the telos and goal of the lived-Christian-life? What is participation and what does the Trinity have to do with ethics, making good choices and being a better dad neighbor? Please, please, take some time to listen-in as we sit down with Dr. Hastings and discuss years of his gathered wisdom and nuggets from his book “Theological Ethics: The Moral Life of the Gospel in Contemporary Context” (Zondervan Academic, 2021). Truly one of the best interviews we’ve had – may it be a blessing to all weary and rooted saints as it was to us. WIN A COPY OF THE BOOK - Go to our Twitter or Facebook or Instagram to enter (just share this interview wand tag us)
01:01:36
May 4, 2021
(Ep. 62) Charles Cotherman: Francis Schaeffer & L'Abri, James Houston & Regent College, & Places to Think Christianly
In the late 1960s and on into the next decade, Francis Schaeffer regularly received requests from evangelicals across North America seeking his help to replicate his innovative learning community, L'Abri, within their own contexts. At the same time, an innovative school called Regent College had started up in Vancouver, British Columbia, led by James Houston and offering serious theological education for laypeople. Before long, numerous admirers and attendees of L'Abri and of Regent had launched Christian "study centers" of their own―often based on or near university campuses―from Berkeley to Maryland. Join us as we sit down with Dr. Charles Cotherman, author of “To Think Christianly: A History of L'Abri, Regent College, and the Christian Study Center Movement” (IVP Academic) to discuss the beginning, and lasting legacy, of both L’Abri and Regent College - and how people like C.S. Lewis, F.F. Bruce, R.C. Sproul, Hans Rookmaaker, John Stott & J.I. Packer all were a part of this noble endeavor.
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April 28, 2021
(Ep. 61) Michael Svigel: Fact Checking Urban Legends of Church History
We all know Santa Claus didn’t really punch Arius in the face at Nicea (but we still share the memes), but there are a few other urban legends of Church history we need to come corrected on. In this episode Dr. Michael J. Svigel, author of “Urban Legends of Church History: 40 Common Misconceptions” (B&H Academic), takes us on a fact-checking crusade and puts some serious chinks in the armor of pseudo-history. 
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April 26, 2021
(Ep. 60) Vincent Bacote: (Part 2) A Thoughtful Conversation on Race, Tension & Finding A Way (Part 2 of 2)
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Vincent Bacote, (interview part 2 of 2) (Associate Professor of Theology, Director of Center for Applied Christian Ethics at Wheaton College) author of “Reckoning with Race and Performing the Good News In Search of a Better Evangelical Theology” (Brill, 2020) – listen-in as we have a thoughtful discussion on race, properly navigating blind-spots and how to view common experiences of minority/majority engagement. We’re not woke, but we’re not asleep – this is a volley where we hit race, tension, evangelicalism, priorities, and seek to attend to the concerns of others by taking the time to check for blind-spots and do the work of getting to know one another. May we have ears to hear. Amen.
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April 23, 2021
(Ep. 59) Vincent Bacote: (Part 1) A Thoughtful Conversation on Race, Tension & Finding A Way
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Vincent Bacote, (the first of two interviews with) (Associate Professor of Theology, Director of Center for Applied Christian Ethics at Wheaton College) author of “Reckoning with Race and Performing the Good News In Search of a Better Evangelical Theology” (Brill, 2020) - listen-in as we have a thoughtful discussion on race, properly navigating blind-spots and how to view common experiences of minority/majority engagement. We’re not woke, but we’re not asleep – this is a volley where we hit race, tension, evangelicalism, priorities, and seek to attend to the concerns of others by taking the time to check for blind-spots and do the work of getting to know one another. May we have ears to hear. Amen.
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April 20, 2021
(Ep. 58) Bray & Keane: A Primer on The Book of Common Prayer
An Introduction, Overview & Step-by-Step Guide “The Book of Common Prayer” seems amazing but having grown up Baptist I have no idea what this thing is and how its to be used. So, we wrangled in the editors of IVP’s release of “The 1662 Book of Common Prayer”, Samuel L. Bray & Drew Keane, and asked them everything you need to know on what this thing is all about, how to best use it for personal devotion, etc. Listen in as we ask them: 1. Can you introduce yourselves perhaps sharing your background, involvement with the project of reprinting “The 1662 Book of Common Prayer”? 2. What is the Book of Common Prayer, and what is the 1662 version and what are the other versions? 3. Was it first written to teach folks, or bring unity, or to increase piety or correct errors or did it have some other desired function? 4. How has this book been used through the years? 5. There’s 767 pages in this thing and it’s a bit intimidating. Can you drill down in it for us giving us the forest and some trees? 6. Of the 29 sections in the BCP where does the avg. laymen spend much of his or her time, and is it all prayers? 7. How much is spent alone, with the gathered church, at home with family, for special events, etc.? 8. Can you walk us through a typical day’s reading for say, April 8th or something like that? 9. How can the BCP be used if Im happy with my church and tradition, but think there could be benefit? 10. How best used individually and devotionally?
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April 13, 2021
(Ep. 57) Seth Dillon: The Babylon Bee’s Divine Use of Ridicule
Join us as we sit down with Seth Dillon, CEO of the Babylon Bee and co-founder of Not the Bee, asking him: 1. Having been at the helm of the Babylon Bee for awhile now, what has been the most mind-blowing thing that’s been sent to you? Like, has anybody gifted you an autographed Joe Montana football or maybe someone sent you a bag-full of their old fingernail clippings? 2. My fav Babylon Bee post goes all the way back to 2016 and is “Pentecostal Teen Finally Receives Gift Of Faking Tongues”. What post is in the Hall of Fame for you? 3. I have used Babylon Bee posts for real-life profitable dialogue, but its crazy because your guys’ posts are satire… What is it about satire that really is innocent as a dove but wise as a serpent - and often becomes a helpful medium for discussion? 4. How do you view your own labors in running the Babylon Bee in the grand scheme of things? As you engage in the divine use of ridicule? 5. Its insane because The Babylon Bee is swimming in the seas of pushback – be it CNN pr the recent jab from a New York Times article… Can you give us an overview of the climate where its not all whoopee-cushions and arm-pit-farts? 6. If you loose how do we all loose? 7. I was pleased when one day on my feed something called Not the Bee showed up. Not the Bee is your humor-based entertainment site that covers news so absurd it should be satire, but somehow isn't… Man, this one is funny, but actually really bums me out too, how does it not just bum you into despair? 8. Not the Bee has some legit merch – have you ever seen in public someone rocking the Karl Marx with a clown nose shirt? And if you haven’t, when you do, would you buy that guy a beer and giving him a high five, or just say a lil prayer and keep walking? NotTheBee.com Twitter @Not_the_Bee TheBabylonBee.com Twitter @TheBabylonBee Seth Dillon—may he live forever—is the CEO of The Babylon Bee, the world's most trusted, factually accurate news source. He also co-founded Not the Bee with Adam Ford and invests in startups when he's not owning the libs for Jesus. He lives with his wife and two sons in Juno Beach, Florida. (Snopes has rated this bio "mostly false.")
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April 8, 2021
(Ep. 56) Jordan Ballor: Being Discipled by Abraham Kuyper in 2021
(Ep. 56) Jordan Ballor: Being Discipled by Abraham Kuyper “Kuyper Must be Understood as an Artist” Few people have read, and know the works, of Abraham Kuyper (1837-1920) better than Dr. Jordan Ballor – editor of the 12 volume series: “Abraham Kuyper Collected Works in Public Theology from” (Lexham Press). We might say that, though removed by over 100 years, Abraham Kuyper has discipled Jordan Ballor. Having sat down and read-through (and prayed-through, preached-through, written-through and applied) Kuyper as much as Dr. Ballor has, he is able to see what Kuyper majored on, assumed, put consistent weight in, what he valued as highest priority, and even read between the lines deducing what sort of man Kuyper was. Indeed, the Spirit has been pleased to use Abraham Kuyper for many of us in seeing how, and working out the implications of the fact that “There is not a square inch in the whole domain of our human existence over which Christ, who is Sovereign over all, does not cry, Mine!” Join us as we sit down with Dr. Ballor asking him: 1. You’ve been working on this project for years now, you are ultra-familiar with Kuyper now, you might even say that you have been discipled by the man. That said, where have you personally gleaned the most from reading the thousands of pages of Kuyper? 2. In your spending so so much time with Kuyper where have you deduced what subjects or doctrines, or exhortations are most important to him? 3. Where have you seen his personality come through in reading in between the lines in the way he carries himself on paper, and the pulpit, and the political floor? If you two were to go grab a beer today after this interview how did you think that session would unfold as far as tone and topic and vibe? 4. What have you noticed is the spiritual and practical trend that happens to people as the Lord is pleased to use Kuyper to shape them? 5. Where do we see Kuyper in this book (“On Business & Economics”) speaking plain truth in the domains of business and economics that might mark the reader? 6. Kenneth Barnes says “Indeed, in the metanarrative of creation, fall, redemption, and consummation that pervades these writings, Kuyper provides a very helpful framework for developing a theology of business and economics.”... With that in mind, what was Kuyper’s thesis, or his chief program, when it comes to economics, money, wealth-accumulation and so-on as a whole…? 7. If we were to hand Kuyper a mic today in just a general context and say “give us the big picture – give us the forest” what do you think he would say? 8. From where did you gather all the fodder that comprise these books and on what basis do you select them, and what hath the Heidelberg Catechism to do with commerce? 9. Will the laymen glean from these writings or is it reserved for statemen ad business owners?
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April 6, 2021
(Ep. 55) Stephen J. Nichols: A Primer on J. Gresham Machen
On a Sunday afternoon in 1935, J. Gresham Machen stepped into a broadcast booth at WIP Radio in Philadelphia and began something no one had tried before: teaching Reformed theology over the radio. In the vein of C.S. Lewis’s landmark “Mere Christianity” talks, Machen’s addresses are a crystal-clear articulation of the basics of the Christian faith, unfolding into an exceptional and persuasive explanation of Reformed theology. Things Unseen is both an accessible systematic theology, and a masterclass in evangelistic apologetics. Introduced by Timothy J. Keller, Foreword by Sinclair B. Ferguson, Historical Preface by Stephen J. Nichols, Afterword by Richard B. Gaffin, Jr. Join us as we sit down with Dr. Nichols and get a glimpse into the life, context, and work of J. Gresham Machen.
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March 31, 2021
(Ep. 54) Danny Hyde: A Primer on the Belgic Confession That's Not Boring (Part 1 of 3 on the Three Forms of Unity)
Part 1 of our 3-part-series where Danny Hyde gives us a primer on each of the 3 documents that comprise the Three Forms of Unity. Today Danny Hyde takes us to school on the gloriousness that is the Belgic Confession. Listen in as we ask discuss: 1. Can you give us a quick intro on what this thing is and why it should matter to a busy mom in 2021?  2. What groups or denominations use the Belgic Confession? 3. How does one use the Belgic Confession in their daily lives and what would a life marked by its usage look like? 4. How does the Belgic Confession compare with the Westminster Confession, and why didn’t the Westminster divines just use the Belgic, and why do North Americans chiefly use the Westminster over the Belgic? 5. Do you have, or have you ever met someone who has, any Belgic Confession tattoos? 6. Weren’t their Confessions before the Belgic, if so, what was wrong with those ones? Was author Guido de Bres just reinventing the wheel? 7. What was the desired function of the Belgic Confession: was it apologetic, was it to highlight differences, was it to notate conformity or specific truths? etc. 8. Article 1 says “We all believe with the heart, and confess with the mouth, that there is one only simple and spiritual Being, which we call God; and that he is eternal, incomprehensible, invisible, immutable, infinite, almighty, perfectly wise, just, good, and the overflowing fountain of all good.”  When it says “We believe…” Who is Guido de Bres, the author, speaking for when says “we”? Was he sanctioned or commissioned, or did he just rise to the occasion? 9. When did it get officially adopted and sanctioned to be used beyond just the initial purpose? 10. The Belgic is broken into 37 "articles” what’s an article? If we were to print this thing out, about how many pages would it be? 11. What is the tone, the heart and vibe of the Belgic Confession? 12. How has the Belgic Confession been used throughout history? How can it best be used now? And are there any versions that you suggest? 13. Where is it dated or a product of its time? And what are we to make of the Belgic Confession's usage of a 1 John text that is not in any modern translations (and is probably not part of the autograph). that is, how does one subscribe with issues with the proof texts? 14. Must we memorize the Belgic Confession? Why not Proverbs or the Gospels before? 15. Where is the Belgic Confession at its best? https://threeforms.org/ https://danielrhyde.com/ https://thelaymenslounge.com/
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March 30, 2021
(Ep. 53) Guy Waters: A Covenant Theology Primer
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Guy Waters, contributor and co-editor of Covenant Theology: Biblical, Theological, and Historical Perspectives (Crossway, 2020), and discuss Covenant Theology asking: Is the principal of Covenant Theology something that a Bible reader could easily, or difficultly, glean from actively engaging their Bibles apart from secondary sources? How do we see Covenant Theology in seed form amongst the Church prior to Augustine? In your own life, as you are commuting to work, BBQing with friends, looking around at this world and thinking about your creator – in what ways has Covenant Theology enriched your day to day as you encounter the hopes and fears of all the world? Which came first: the covenant with the Son to dwell with his church, or the covenant with the Son to redeem lost sinners? If God’s eternity means that he is outside of time (not just before time), do reformed people place too much emphasis on his eternal past?
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March 24, 2021
(Ep. 52) Craig Keener: How to be Biblically Charismatic
Dr. Craig Keener is a world-renowned Biblical scholar, and so, naturally, he believes the Bible, and takes seriously the command, when it says “Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.” Listen in as we ask Dr. Keener (in connection with his book “Gift and Giver: The Holy Spirit for Today” Baker Academic) what the Biblical warrant to believe that Spiritual Gifts continue (and have not ceased as the post-enlightenment West would have us believe) and then how to actually operate in them without being a heretic.
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March 12, 2021
(Ep. 51) T. Desmond Alexander: Nuanced Questions on the Garden, Heaven & the Telos of Humanity
Join us as we sit down and pick the brain of the gracious T. Desmond Alexander in connection with his book "From Eden to the New Jerusalem: An Introduction to Biblical Theology" (Kregel Academic & Professional). Questions include: Are we able to answer the question “What is the chief end of God? And what is the role of       creation in that end?” What is meant by a “temple-city”? and can we have any idea of what life on earth would have       looked like if Adam and Eve didn’t rebel? That is, what would I see if I drove through a suburb of a temple-city? In hearing our vocation was to be PRIESTLY and ROYAL, can you give a snapshot of what a day in       the life of an image bearer pre-fall might have looked like? Would it include soccer moms and teenagers who love playing video games? Do we know what was the NATURE and FREQUENCY of God’s presence with Adam and Eve? I ask that because, it seems that God wasn’t always physically with them… In the book you said “There is something of value in seeing the big picture, for it frequently enables us to appreciate the details more clearly.” What aspects of the big picture would you suggest us to make our focal points?  What need we always remember that informs our lived-lives? In the book you said “Given the complexity of the Bible as a literary anthology, outlining its meta-story is not easy.” I fully agree with this, and for that reason I must confess it’s a lil disturbing… That is, I would have never seen some of these things unless someone like you or Vos, or Schreiner or, Beale, Goldsworthy showed me... granted I now see all over, I cant help but thinking that good Biblical Theology, and tracing themes and types and allegory, is at worst Christian-Gnosticism and at best reserved for the academic elite – either way, those that have found the hermeneutical keys to unlock scripture… Have thoughts like this ever crossed your mind? I feel like most people think the purpose of life is to "share the Gospel", to distinguish between law and Gospel, to see Jesus in the Old Testament (and those are all good things that I myself do), HOWEVER, it seems that, and I don’t know how to say this that wont come off ungrateful, so please       don’t hear what I'm not saying, but, it seems that Jesus came on the seen in his saving capacity starting with the fall and then once his saving is accomplished in the New Jerusalem, its back to the original goal – so, all that do say, do we overemphasize the role of Jesus as the BIG PICTURE and       the ultimate telos? Is the New Jerusalem about the trinity being with humanity or is it about the atoning work of Jesus?
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March 2, 2021
(Ep. 50) Mitch Chase: Typology, Allegory and Actually Being Excited About Reading the Bible
A Glorious Discussion on How to Joyously Read the Old Testament I think this is one of the most practical and applicable interviews we’ve had yet. “Joy is the word that comes to mind when I reflect on writing about typology and allegory” is how Dr. Mitchel Chase opens up his book “40 Questions About Typology and Allegory” (Kregel Academic). Listen as we sit down with Dr. Chase and discuss a way we can read the Bible the way it was intended to be read – to be read in such a way that results in, as we echo what Cleopas said on the road to Emmaus “Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?”
01:22:37
February 24, 2021
Winfield Bevins: Young, Restless, and Anglican - Theology in Motion
Join us as we sit down with Winfield Bevins, author of "Simply Anglican: An Ancient Faith for Today's World" (Anglican Compass, 2020), asking him why so many Christians are trading their “Jonathan Edwards is my homeboy” shirt for icons of Chrysostom and prayer books, and find out what itch Anglicanism and liturgy scratch that the new-Calvinism doesn’t.
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February 22, 2021
John Goldingay: How Should a Busy Mom Read Genesis?
Listen in as I try to interview John Goldingay on Genesis.
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February 18, 2021
Pieter Vos: Virtue Ethics, Theology & Our Desire for the Good Life
What are “Ethics”? What is the need for Ethics when we have Theology? What do ethics have to do with my normal life? How can I become the person I want to be? How can I try to live like Jesus and Hudson Taylor when they were at another level? How can I be a better human when Im depraved? All these, and more: listen in as we have a discussion with Dr. Pieter Vos around his new book “Longing for the Good Life: Virtue Ethics after Protestantism”.
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February 17, 2021
Tish Harrison Warren: Real Talk on Prayer in Everyday Life
There is a reason Tish Harrison Warren is widely received amongst us rank-and-file saints. She’s a Christian, she’s a human with hopes, fears and doubts. It seems many authors and teachers write and speak to the Christian’s normal lived-life by, unfortunately, responding to questions that nobody is really asking. But then there is Tish Harrison Warren. Here she invites us into her own journey of ordinary-grief where, along the way, she speaks and observes as one of us. Listen in as we discuss everyday life prayer in the context of the grief and sorrow of: stubbed toes, daughters left out at school, unfulfilled desires, miscarriages, depleting health (and even that sort-of lingering sorrow that is like a heavy fog, where your just kinda' bummed and you don’t know why), and turnover ways we can endure the mystery of suffering - in light of the glorious resurrection of our elder brother Jesus, because, as Tish says, "I think the Resurrection is the really big deal of the universe." The purveyor of common grace that Tish is, here are some shot from the hip suggestions of glory for your edification, reading, listening, & eating/drinking pleasure: Damien Jurado Music Praxis Coffee in Austin Anglican Compass Porters Gate music Rabbit Room Pelican Project Jeremy Tisby's book - How to Fight Racism: Courageous Christianity and the Journey Toward Racial Justice Esau McCaulley's book - Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope Malcolm Quilt poetry Scott Cairns poetry Gerard Manley Hopkins poetry Wendell Berry's Sabbath Poems "Here's a good combination: get a spicy red wine, have it with dark chocolate and mangoes. In that order. It's amazing." "The glory of God is man fully alive.” - Irenaeus of Lyons
01:09:21
February 15, 2021
Cornelis van der Kooi: If Theology is Only Academic Throw it in the Trash
“Dogmatics is far from an abstract business but is connected by a thousand and one threads to everyday life.” - Cornelis van der Kooi Is it weird to anybody else that Theology often seems like a gentleman’s club, a hobby for academics and has really very very little to say about the rest of us as we try to “work out [our] salvation”? Why must high-truth be placed so high so that I need astronomical training to get there? Why are our seminary professors content with asking about (in Latin, of course) if God can make a martini so large that He cant drink it, instead of asking things like: “I know God loves me, but does He like me?”, “What does the Gospel have to do with the fact that I hate how I’m getting fat as I’m getting older?”, “How should my faith inform my life as I’m driving my kids to baseball practice?”, “Does God love a backyard BBQ as much as I do?”, etc. I’m not saying that Cornelis van der Kooi and Gijsbert van der Brink answer these questions directly in their “Christian Dogmatics: An Introduction” (Eerdmans 2017), but they sure do give us the tools we need to get there. This is, hands down, the best Systematic Theology I have ever read. Please do buy a copy as soon as you have a chance, and until then, listen in as we sit down with Dr. van der Kooi and discuss a few aspects of the Christian life that many of us face in 2021.
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February 9, 2021
Julie Canlis: A Theology of the Ordinary
"Unless we rest in God's personalizing of us, we will try and 'personalize' our faith through our own intensity and emotions. Often, the 'personalness' of the gospel is secured through second-rate means, such as gratitude for salvation, or an individual sense of God's presence, or a missional call. These are wonderful things, but they are false securities. On the contrary, the only thing that can guarantee the personal nature of our faith is God's own personhood… Framing our whole existence around the personalness of God-as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit- is what ensures that our "spirituality" (or "piety") remains personal." - Julie Canlis "In an era of 'doing' - of activism, of measurable ministry - "being" can be one's personal hell. It is the hard task of laying tasks aside in order to contemplate and receive the words 'This is my beloved SOn, in whom I am well pleased' (Matt. 3:17). Only when we hear that word can our tasks have any meaning at all. Spiritual formation is all about entering this Father-Son relationship, about living out the truth of our adoption. It is formation as relation." - Julie Canlis Join us as we sit down with Dr. Julie Canlis and discuss ordinary life for ordinary Christians.
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February 4, 2021
Paul Putz: A Theology of Sports & the Super Bowl
"J. Gresham Machen was one of many to fall under the spell of football. 'When I see a vacant field on one of these autumn days,' Machen wrote to a friend while in Europe in 1905, 'my mind is filled with wonder at this benighted people which does not seem to hear the voice of nature when she commands every human being to play football or watch it being played.'” Join us we sit down with Dr. Paul Putz (Assistant Director of the Faith & Sports Institute at Truett Seminary) and discuss the intersection of sports & Christianity asking questions like: Where do sports fit in the created order? Or do they belong to the fall? If God is glorified by a good catch, then is he disappointed in a botched field goal? Can you give us a brief survey of Christian America’s view on the game of football and where we are today? Would God rather I watch a football game or evangelize? What is it about sports - why do we humans love them so much… And not just a lil, but a lot: we’re talking grown men painting their faces, standing shirtless in the snow drinking buying $20 beers, and having the time of their lives… And they’re not even playing – their watching someone else play!!!!! If the Bucs win, is it because Tom Brady can do “all things through Christ who strengthens him”? What’s the most Christian thing I can do this Sunday as I'm eating slow-cooked-pineapple-infused lil-smokies drizzled with nacho-cheese - and watching the football game with my family? LINKS: “‘God Disguised as Michael Jordan’ (and My Evolving View of Sports)” “Football and the Political Act of Prayer” “God and the Gridiron Game America's obsession with football is nearly as old as the game itself.”
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February 1, 2021
Chad Bird: You’re Still the Same Sinner You Were a Year Ago (Nothing has Changed... But Neither Has Jesus)
“People have this weird and irrational tendency to begin a new year with the assumption that things will truly be new during the next twelve months, that calendar changes equal humanity changes. I admit, quite sheepishly, that I sometimes share this weird notion... You think, My commitment to the straight and narrow is strong’ but your heart tells a far different and darker story.” - Chad Bird Happy New Year! Bring your New Year's Resolutions, and desires for growth, and listen in as we sit with the golden-penned, and down-to-earth, Chad Bird as we discuss resolutions, failed resolutions, spiritual disciplines, sanctification, law and gospel, and the Gospel. Read Chad Bird's latest 1517.org Blog Post/Note to Self: You Are Not Enough and Other (Un)welcome Truths for the New Year Listen to Chad Bird's Podcast: 40 Minutes in the Old Testament Listen/Read Along to the Unveiling Mercy Daily Podcast Join The Laymen's Lounge listeners and read Chad Bird's Unveiling Mercy: 365 Daily Devotions Based on Insights from Old Testament Hebrew each day of 2021
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December 31, 2020
Tim Challies: Belonging to the Global Christian Family - A Few Relics, Tokens & Anecdotes
Through thirty-three objects, Tim Challies explores the history of what God is accomplishing in this world, whether through princes or peasants, triumph or trial and (notating his findings in a book and DVD set). Each object offers a tangible link between the present and the past, between the Christians of the 21st century and those who lived and died in centuries past. Join us as we sit down with Tim and discuss some of his comings and goings. You can watch a free episode of “Epic” here: “Epic Episode 8: India” NOTE: Since this recording, our brother Tim Challies lost his beloved son Nick, please do pray for the entire Challies family.
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December 26, 2020
J.D. Greear: Searching for Christmas
Join us as we sit down with J.D. Greear and discuss the implications of Christmas and how the “hopes and fears of all the years are met in” Jesus.
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December 21, 2020
Tom Schreiner: A Christmas Survey of Luke 1:1 - 2:21
We had the privilege of sitting down with Dr. Tom Schreiner to discuss the first couple chapters of Luke - asking how best to make sense of it all and have our calloused hearts hear the story afresh. Join us as we take a Christmas stroll through advent portions of Luke with the sweetheart of sweethearts the good Dr. Tom Schreiner
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December 17, 2020
Michael Bird: The Gospel in all Loci of Systematic Theology
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Bird and discuss the second edition of his Systematic Theology and what needs he saw that would cause him to take the time to offer the world yet another Systematic Theology. “I have generally believed that some theologians should be routinely slapped in the face with a soggy fish in order to try to smack some exegetical sense into them. You can only watch someone struggling to push a round peg into a square hole for so long before you finally snatch the peg from them and say, “Just give it here; I’ll do it for you.” - Michael Bird
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December 14, 2020
Adam English: Historical Truth on Santa Claus/St. Nicholas of Myra, The Red Suit & Punching Heretics
The life and trials of Nicholas of Myra the Saint who would be Santa Claus. Listen in as we sit down with Dr. Adam English and trace the evolution of Saint Nicholas of Myra, a 4th century Bishop (in modern-day Turkey), to who would become everyone’s favorite jolly toy yielding fat man: Santa Claus. Did he punch Arius? What's the deal with the red suite? Stockings and fireplaces? Saving prostitutes and boiling children? The North Pole? And a bunch more separating fact from fiction.
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December 9, 2020
Andrew Abernethy: Biblical Expectations on What the Messiah Would Actually Do?
Listen as we sit down with Dr. Andrew Abernethy to discuss what the Old Testament expected of the coming Messiah and to what end? A conquering King? Forgiveness of sins? Flourishing? Justice? A suffering Servant? God Himself? Shalom? Fiscal Security?...
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December 7, 2020
Greg Lanier: Why Jesus was Born of a Virgin & Other Incarnation Questions
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Greg Lanier and discuss all things incarnation, asking questions like: 1. Why did the Messiah need to be born of a virgin so meek and mild? 2. Why did the Messiah need to be fully God and fully man? 3. What does it mean that Mary was “overshadowed” by the Spirit? 4. Is Mary to be called the “mother of God”? 5. In the humanity of Jesus He was like us in every way, but can we really say that since we have original sin and He didn’t? 6. What does the title “Son of God” mean? 7. Was Jesus the “son of God” before the incarnation? 8. What does “only begotten son” mean? 9. How did Jesus view his own incarnation? 10. What role does each member of the Trinity play in the incarnation?
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December 3, 2020
Richard Mouw: Christmas Carols as a Vehicle for Truth, Joy & Human Longing
Join us as we talk all things Christmas carols with the ever-gracious and holistic Richard Mouw. Dr. Mouw says, “I love Christmas carols, and I even find it inspiring to hear them sung in shopping malls. Some lines in particular tempt me to stop in my tracks. When, surrounded by bustling crowds, I hear that “the hopes and fears of all the years are met in thee tonight,” I want to pause and try to imagine the ways in which the coming of Christ speaks to the deepest yearnings of the people.”
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December 1, 2020
Gordon Nickel: The Quran with Christian Commentary
Join us as we sit down with leading Islam and Quran scholar Dr. Gordon D. Nickel and ask questions in connection with his recent book, “The Quran with Christian Commentary: A Guide to Understanding the Scripture of Islam”: - If one were to read the Quran with a complete open-mind, and never heard of Islam or Christianity before, what would the main takeaways be as the big picture? - What are the issues that even Muslims themselves must concede as far as the Quran perhaps being in error or falsification or a-historical? - What sort of things should we look for when reading the Quran when we read with the desire to have constructive conversations with Muslims from the source? - Have you ever encountered anyone who ended up fully rejection or seriously begin to question their belief in the Quran? - What claims does the Quran make about itself and what claims do others make about it? - What do the rank and file Muslims think about the Quran? What are their take aways when read it?
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November 25, 2020
Robert McKenzie: Historical Truth on Pilgrims, Thanksgiving &The Mayflower
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Robert Tracy McKenzie as he helps separate fact from fiction on Pilgrims, the Mayflower and Thanksgiving. Dr. McKenzie is the author of “The First Thanksgiving What the Real Story Tells Us About Loving God and Learning from History” (IVP Academic 2013), and we ask him: 1. Any notable people in that band, or did they leave anything behind as far as books or dogma that we moderns might have caught wind of? 2. Why do we love the drama of finding out history is embellished and uncovering misconceptions…? Like, realizing the Pilgrims didn’t actually have little buckles on their somber black shoes? 3. Who were these people, where did they come from and why? 4. Where does our historical info for the pilgrims come? 5. If there wasn’t a holiday after these guys what would be compelling about them? 6. Is it anathema to put up Christmas decorations prior to Thanksgiving? 7. What can we keep in our minds about these pilgrims and how can we benefit beyond a couple deviled eggs and a Macys Day Parade?
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November 23, 2020
J.V. Fesko: Creeds, Confessions and Cage-Stagers
Join us we sit down with J.V. Fesko and ask him, in connection with his new book “The Need for Creeds Today: Confessional Faith in a Faithless Age”: - In what ways are some Confessional Christians like grouchy territorial local surfers? - Is the Presbyterian Westminster Confession more bonafide and cooler than the Baptist 1689 Confession? - Are Baptists truly “Reformed” - What do you say to “No Creed but the Bible”? - Why do some Reformed Confessional Christians come off a lil’ on the smug side, almost like an acceptable cage-stage vibe?  - Can I pick and choose from the various confessions/catechisms, or need I only choose one? - What are the benefits of the confessions/catechisms beyond mere mental assent to the vital doctrinal truths for, say things like, low self-esteem, listening to music (non-“Christian”), weekend beach trips, etc.? - If you’re a person who is in the Word, engaging in reading and Bible study, won’t they naturally end up where the authors of the confessions end up? - Why have confessions largely fallen into disuse? And where are we seeing it taking its toll on us? - Where do we see the confessions at their best? - Doctrinal issues are timeless and there is a clear need for those to be set in stone (as they are in the confessions), however, we are “Reformed and always reforming”, as such, shouldn’t we be updating them to speak to issues and questions that we face today? - It seems the Westminster Standards have heavier rotation than that of the 3 forms of unity why is that?
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November 20, 2020
Duvall & Hays: God's Relational Presence is the Cohesive Center of Biblical Theology
What is the focus of the Bible? Heaven? Kingdom? Covenant? Justification? Glory to God? Join us as we sit down with J. Scott Duvall and J. Daniel Hays as we discuss the unity of the whole Bible. Listen as they speak to God's desire to be with his people is a thread running from Genesis through Revelation. Duvall and Hays make the case that God's relational presence is central to the Bible's grand narrative. It is the cohesive center that drives the whole biblical story and ties together other important biblical themes, such as covenant, kingdom, glory, and salvation history.
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November 16, 2020
Craig Bartholomew: An Invitation for Christians & Humans to Flourish
Apart from the doctrine of God, no doctrine is as comprehensive as that of creation. Join us as we sit down with the Rev. Dr. Craig Bartholomew as we discuss creation and how it is woven throughout the entire fabric of Christian theology. It goes to the deepest roots of reality and leaves no area of life untouched. Across the centuries, however, the doctrine of creation has often been eclipsed or threatened by various forms of gnosticism. Yet if Christians are to rise to current challenges related to public theology and ethics, we must regain a robust, biblical doctrine of creation. “Who would have thought that dropping your kids off at school is a moment of glory?” -Craig Bartholomew
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November 11, 2020
Kristyn Getty: Sanctifying the Night, Songs & Family Worship
Join us as we sit down with Kristyn Getty and discuss “Evensong’ – Hymns and Lullabies at the close of day, and how we too can, as Getty puts it, “be making worship part of the fabric of life in general” for our families, especially our children. Kristyn says “A good hymn is curating wonderful ideas about the Lord, distilling great truths in memorable lines in beautiful ways and catchy melodies, and so it invites questions. Its starts conversations…” “’O for a thousand tongues to sing’” what does that mean – ‘a thousand tongues’? It gives that sense of: the praise we desire to bring the Lord is so great but I just have one tiny little mouth, but you bring your mouth, and I'll bring mine, and one day were all going to be together with angels and the believers that went before us from all over the world and we’re going to have thousands and thousands and thousands of voices singing”
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November 5, 2020
Carl Trueman: Here's Why Martin Luther is the People's Theologian
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Carl Trueman and discuss Martin Luther on the Christian Life, the Cross and Freedom.
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October 31, 2020
Nelson Kloosterman: Herman Bavinck's Application of the Imago Dei to All of Life
The Dogmatics and Ethics of Herman Bavinck applied to daily life. Herman Bavinck gave much thought to Dogmatics, ethics, and being a human created in the image of God, or “imago Dei” – join us as we sit down with Dr. Nelson Kloosterman, who has played a part in the translation of many modern Bavinck works we read, and ask: What is the difference between ethics and Dogmatics? If we were to ask Bavinck “What does it mean to be human?” what would his response be? What are the implications of being created in the image of God for a non-Christian and what are the implications of being created in the image of God as a Christian? Can you speak to the Biblical referents of the term “imago Dei”? Can you touch on the unfolding, developmental character of the imago Dei? If you and Bavinck were to come over to Hawaii, and sip on a mat tai with me, and have a profitable discussion - what do you think he would exhort us to in this our cultural moment?
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October 30, 2020
Mike Wagenman: Appropriating Abraham Kuyper for 2020
Join us as we sit down with Mike Wagenman to discuss one of the most important theologians of the last 300 years: Abraham Kuyper. Kuyper still speaks powerfully to our day. The battle he was  fighting to confess the Lordship of Jesus over all of life and the  public truth of the gospel in the face of the powerful currents of  modern humanism that sought to privatize the Christian faith is as  important to the church today as then, if not more important! Michael  Wagenman has given us a great popular introduction to Kuyper’s thought  on the mission of the church in the public square set in his original  context but with helpful reflection on its contemporary significance.
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October 29, 2020
Michael Horton: Strange Notions on Justification Diagnosed - & Remedies for Our Heresies
Today we sit down with Michael Horton and ask him to ask him a thousand questions about justification. The doctrine of justification stands at the center of our systematic reflection on the meaning of salvation as well as our piety, mission, and life together. In his two-volume work on the doctrine of justification, Michael Horton seeks not simply to repeat noble doctrinal formulas and traditional proof texts, but to encounter the remarkable biblical justification texts in conversation with the provocative proposals that, despite a wide range of differences, have reignited the contemporary debates around justification.
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October 28, 2020
Jordan Cooper: The Proper Distinction Between Law and Gospel
"Rightly Distinguishing the Law and Gospel is the Most Difficult & Highest art of Christians" - CFW Walther Today we sit down with Dr. Jordan Cooper and discuss the proper distinction between the law and the Gospel - as well as CFW Walther's contribution to the subject. 
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October 27, 2020
Matthew Barrett: Help! The Old Testament is Bizarre
In this episode we sit down for an interview with Dr Matthew Barrett to learn how to read the Bible as one story (and not just a bunch of bizarre un-related scenes) and how Jesus Himself read the Scriptures (as all pointing to Him). 
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October 26, 2020
Danny Olinger: A Beginner’s Guide to Geerhardus Vos
Join us as we interview Danny Olinger, author of the definitive Geerhardus Vos biography. We explore Vos’ personal life, his theology, and we learn of Vos the poet and the sad reality of how he died in obscurity with less than 10 people at his funeral, but how his work has become the go-to for doing proper Biblical Theology and seeing the big picture of the story of God unfold.
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October 25, 2020
N.T. Wright: How Christianity Makes Sense of the World (And C.S. Lewis, Demons, Lament, etc.)
An Interview with N.T. Wright on C.S. Lewis, Demons, Lament and More. Join us as we sit down with N.T. Wright to discuss, in connection with his new book “Broken Signposts: How Christianity Makes Sense of the World”, things like: 1. How do things like Justice, Beauty, Freedom, etc., in all their fleetingness, make sense of this world and point towards Jesus? 2. C.S. Lewis and the “moral argument” for God 3. Should we share the Gospel with a family who are minding their own business at the beach and having a great time? 4. It seems every third person in the NT was demon possessed, it was a part of daily reality for many… How come we don’t see this anymore? 5. What does it mean to be “filled with the Spirit”, and how do I get filled? 6. If you had one message to share with the world – with your own grandchildren, what would that message be?
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October 20, 2020
Leopoldo Sánchez: Did Jesus Need the Spirit? Jesus' Life in the Spirit and How We Share In that Life
Paul says we must walk by the Spirit - did Jesus walk by the Spirit? When we walk by the Spirit are we functioning like Christ? Was Jesus Obedient to the Father Through the Spirit? Dr. Leopoldo Sanchez articulates Jesus' life in the Spirit and what this means for us who desire to live like Jesus.
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October 19, 2020
Jeffrey Niehaus: Talking Snakes? Magical Trees? “We can’t even touch it!”, & Other Eden Q&As
Join us as we pick the brain of Old Testament scholar Jeffrey Niehaus on Genesis 3:1-3 (and more): “Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” In this episode we discuss: - What was the nature and location of the garden in Eden? - Why did God want to plant a garden in the first place? - What’s the deal these trees that God has placed in the garden? - Why would God have even put a tree in there for them specifically to not eat? - Why the punishment of death if they ate the fruit? - Who, and what is this, “serpent” thing, and how did it get in God’s good creation? - In what ways would their eyes have been opened? - What’s so bad about “Being like God knowing good and evil”? And what would that look like? - At what point did Eve actually sin? -Did Eve add to God’s prohibition by saying “neither shall you touch it”?
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October 3, 2020
R. Scott Clark: A Proper Expectation of the Christian Life
Its been said that for fish that living under water, with all they’ve ever known as underwater living, and all the other fish around them also only knowing underwater living, that these fish might incorrectly assume that water is all there is. It causes us to ask: Are modern 2020 Evangelical Christians like these fish? Are we swimming in muddled waters of a distinctly North American Christianity that is detached and has little or no continuity with what Christianity has looked like the last 2000 years? Are the nuts and bolts, and the emphasis of, modern evangelical Christianity actually distinctly American (and not in a good way like baseball and apple pie)? Is there a better, more Christ-centered and historical, way that we have forgotten (or are yet to encounter)? Join us as we sit down with Dr. R. Scott Clark as we discuss these things and more as they are derived, and diagnosed, from his eye opening book “Recovering the Reformed Confession: Our Theology, Piety, and Practice” (P&R Publishing) Follow Dr. Clarks Website/Blog: The Heidelblog here Follow Dr. Clarks Podcast: The Heidelcast here Follow Dr. Clarks/Westminster Seminary’s Podcast: Office Hours here And, don’t let us loose sight of our past and grab a copy of Crossway’s “ESV Bible with Creeds and Confessions” (see here) that features: 13 historic creeds and confessions placed in the back, including the Apostles Creed (ca. 200–400), the Nicene Creed (325), the Athanasian      Creed (381), the Chalcedonian Definition (451), the Augsburg Confession (1530), the Belgic Confession (1561), the Articles of Religion (1563), the      Canons of Dort (1618–19), the Westminster Confession (1646), the London Baptist Confession (1689), the Heidelberg Catechism (1563), the      Westminster Larger Catechism (1647), and the Westminster Shorter Catechism (1647) Introductions to each of the 13 creeds and confessions written by historian Chad Van Dixhoorn
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September 16, 2020
56 Million People Have Watched “The Chosen” TV Series: Why? A Chat with Associate Producer Justen Overlander
The Chosen, a TV series about the life of Jesus, has had nearly 56 million views. Join us as we sit down with The Chosen Associate Producer Justen Overlander as we ask what the show is all about and why 56 million people (and counting) have watched it. Learn more here  Follow The Chosen on Facebook here Follow Justen Overlander on Facebook here  Watch a preview here Watch episode 1 here 
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September 16, 2020
James Eglinton: A Discussion on "Herman Bavinck A Critical Biography"
"An Orthodox Life in a Changing World" indeed. Dr. James Eglinton joins us to discuss the life of Herman Bavinck in connection with his forthcoming "Bavinck: A Critical Biography" (Baker Academic). Dutch Calvinist theologian and polymath Herman Bavinck, a significant voice in the development of Protestant theology, remains relevant many years after his death. His four-volume "Reformed Dogmatics" is one of the most important theological works of the twentieth century. James Eglinton is widely considered to be at the forefront of contemporary interest in Bavinck's life and thought. After spending considerable time in the Netherlands researching Bavinck, Eglinton brings to light a wealth of new insights and previously unpublished documents to offer a definitive biography of this renowned Reformed thinker. The book follows the course of Bavinck's life in a period of dramatic social change, identifying him as an orthodox Calvinist challenged with finding his feet in late modern culture. Based on extensive archival research, this critical biography presents numerous significant and previously ignored or unknown aspects of Bavinck's person and life story. Join us as we discuss subjects ranging from the Bavinck folk-history that resulted in the so called “two Bavinck's hypothesis”, his unrequited love, and his single preached sermon - all the way to the ever important question of “If Bavinck was your uncle, and he came the family Christmas party, what sort of vibe would you expect from Uncle Herman?” For more on Dr. James Eglinton visit: Dr. Eglinton's Blog Dr. Eglinton's Facebook page For more on the book visit: Baker Amazon Be sure to follow www.TheLaymensLounge.com Instagram and/or Facebook page where one person will have a chance to win, in partnership with the good people at Baker Academic, a Bavinck book bundle, that will include copies of:  "Herman Bavinck: A Critical Biography" (before it's out!) Bavinck's "Reformed Ethics Vol 1" Bavinck's "Reformed Dogmatics Vol 1" And 4 others
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September 3, 2020
Robert Covolo: Fashion Theology
"There is not a square inch in the whole domain of our human existence over which Christ, who is Sovereign over all, does not cry, Mine!” - Abraham Kuyper What hath Jesus to do with fashion? What hath Paris to do with Jerusalem?Well, if every square inch of this world belongs to the Lord, then much! Listen in as we interview Dr. Robert Covolo (PhD, Free University Amsterdam/Fuller Seminary) on the place of fashion in Christianity. Dr. Covolo has just blessed Christians across the globe, and centuries (yes, we just said that), by releasing his groundbreaking "Fashion Theology" (Baylor University Press, 2020), the importance of this book simply can't be overstated as a glaring hole has finally been filled. Topics like fashion might not be the preferred subject of the old guard crammed in the ivory towers, but for the normal Christians of the world, each in their own vocations and spheres, a topic like fashion is of the utmost importance. Christians are concerned, and often utterly lost, as to the intersection of King Jesus and this wonderful/horrible thing called fashion (as well as with the minivan, date night, the new Taylor Swift album, white teeth, backyard BBQs, eczema, data-entry, isolation, restless hearts, etc.) - in “Fashion Theology” Dr Covolo has scratched a massive Theological and practical itch. Dr. Covolo has done the Christian Church a great favor, as well as set a precedent, in vigorously researching and covering what is one of many, often-overlooked, subjects that plays no small significance in our lived everyday normal lives. We need our scholars to, like Covolo does in "Fashion Theology", take every prevailing idea, every dominant cultural artifact, and every core human longing of our day captive - bringing them to be seen in the light of the Gospel. In this podcast Dr. Covolo speaks to the often default judgement that fashion is bad, only bad, and just a gateway sin to lust, opulence, and false identites. While these realities are sometimes a reality, there is yet a place – a God given and God honoring place, for fashion and our daily dress in the “theater of God’s glory”. Semper reformanda indeed - thank you brother Covolo. WE'RE GIVING AWAY A COPY OF "FASHION THEOLOGY"!!!! To enter: Share this podcast on your social media page Tag @TheLaymensLounge and @RobertCovolo and someone you think would appreciate the fashion and theology discussion Winner announced on our Instagram and Facebook in 7 days (Fri September 4)
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August 29, 2020
Dr. Jack Deere (Part 1): A Conversation With A Healer (Yes, You Read That Right)
Dr. Jack Deere is a healer. By the power of the Spirit, and for the glory of the living and active God, he has healed many. He isn't insane, isn't a faker, doesnt want your money, he's not on TV and doesn't wear a purple suit... He's been a pastor for decades, speaks Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic/German, taught Seminary for a decade, and probably knows all your arguments against the fact that the gifts of the Spirit are still for today better than you (because he knows the Bible and doesn't dismiss teachings from the Word because weirdos and fakers often twist and distort it for their gain). Join us for part 1 of our 2 conversations with Jack Deere and listen while we discuss common objections to the miraculous gifts, his own disdain for the gifts in his younger years as a seminary professor, how he became convinced of the gifts from reading his Bible (rather than from what he did or didn't see), how he was used by God to heal a young blind woman, share some prophetic utterances,  speak on the friendship with God, and more. "When my good friend Dr. Jack Deere asked me in 1992 to read and critique the manuscript of his book, Surprised by the Power of the Spirit (Zondervan, 1993), I was at first honored and later overwhelmed by its persuasive and, in my opinion, irrefutable argumentation." -Sam Storms "Jack Deere offers mature insights learned from Scripture, from enduring testing, and from a wider range of experience with spiritual gifts than most others, and we have much to learn from him" - Craig Keener Some of Jack's Books: Why I Am Still Surprised by the Power of the Spirit: Discovering How God Speaks and Heals Today Even in Our Darkness: A Story of Beauty in a Broken Life The Beginner's Guide to the Gift of Prophecy
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August 19, 2020
Chad Bird: Good News for Failures, Know-it-Alls & Jerks
“Why do we focus on our motivations for [repenting]? Why do we keep asking ourselves ‘Am I heartily sorry? Do I sincerely repent? Or am I only going through the motions?’ Behind the veil of our confused emotions and self-scrutinizing, the age-old internal battle continues. Our sinful nature is on a crusade, and its target conquest is confession.” Chad Bird penned those words, but I think we all fall to that same lame and un-biblical idea that we are saved, and "kept saved", not just by faith, but "saving faith" or "sincere faith" or some other qualifier to "faith in Jesus". But the reality is, the good news is, that we're saved by faith alone. Faith! Alone! Thats it. Boom. Bam. Amen! Join us as we sit with Chad Bird, and listen in while he shares his own story and insights. Chad is a brother who says what we are all thinking but nobody wants to say. Normal struggles for normal Christians.  What's crazier is that Chad reminds us that he's not the first to say these shocking and seemingly "un-pious" questions: he reminds us, for example, of Psalm 13 where the Psalmist prays back to God (the very things that God gave Him to pray) (and they seem scandalous and irreverent, but again, they are the language of languish given to man from God to pray back to God!): "How long, O Lord? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me?  How long must I take counsel in my soul and have sorrow in my heart all the day? How long shall my enemy be exalted over me?".  Read Chad Bird's "Night Driving: Notes from a Prodigal Soul" Subscribe to Chad's genuis podcast "40 Minutes in the Old Testament" Fins articles, resources, and other goods at Chad Bird's website hosted at 1517
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August 15, 2020
G.K. Beale: The Garden of Eden, God, Adam, Eve & Me?
As we make our way through Genesis 1–3, we will glean three interrelated points: (1) God creates the heavens and the earth to be his cosmic sanctuary, where he sovereignly rules and dwells. All creation is designed to house the glory of God. (2) God creates Adam and Eve as kings to rule on his behalf and as priests to serve and mediate his glory. Humanity is created to remain wholly dependent on God and represent him faithfully on the earth. (3) In an attempt to be independent of God, the original couple succumbs to the serpent’s temptation. But, despite the fall, God promises to overcome evil and establish a perfect dwelling place for his glory and kingdom. Join us as we discuss with The Rev. Dr. Gregory Beale his book “The Story Retold: A Biblical - Theological Introduction to the New Testament” and what the implications are of our priesthood in the cosmic sanctuary and our everyday lives. Be sure to visit www.TheLaymensLounge.com 
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July 30, 2020
Chris Bruno: Hawaii Christianity, "Biblical Theology" & How to Read the Bible as One Joyful Story
200 years ago the first Christian missionaries arrived in the Kingdom of Hawaii. There remains a great heritage and legacy of faith in the islands (as well as, sadly, no small residual pain from deplorable acts). There's a great need for the kānaka ʻōiwi to return to the ancient faith. Dr. Chris Bruno and his ohana, along with others faithful saints, are resolved to proclaim the compelling truth of the grand story of God in the islands and across the Pacific. He hopes Christians will see from our "Biblical Theological" Bible readings, how all cultures and peoples of God's good earth find their own stories woven into this great single story captured in the 66 books of the Bible. Join us as Dr. Bruno points us to what a faithful reading of the Old Testament, and the rest of the Bible, looks like and results in - one that is not just a mere nugget of inspirational truth gleaned here and there, but a cohesive understanding that results in a right view of reality and truly connects us to the creation and culture, Aloha ʻĀina (that pronounced "it is good"), the people of Isreal, Hawaii and all sons and daughters of Adam in that lush garden, and how everything joyously climaxes in Jesus Christ. Visit www.TheLaymensLounge.com Visit www.ChrisBruno.net 
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July 22, 2020
Pierce Hibbs: Anxiety, Suffering & God's Wonderful Plan for it in Our Lives
“If you’re [listening to this podcast] right now, I’m assuming you’re clawing your way through hell, or you have in the past, or you know someone who is. I don’t know where you are—buried under blankets in a dark room, sitting on a bus with your body stiff as steel, gripping a steering wheel like your life depended on it—but I don’t judge. I’ve been in the worst of places with my anxiety. I also don’t know how you are—whether this is a “good” day or a “bad” day, whether your anxiety seems distant like a memory or coiled around your neck like seventy-pound boa constrictor—but I promise I have something you need to hear in this book [podcast]. When it’s all boiled down, the message is plain and simple: your anxiety is not accidental. It’s doing something in you; it’s working. And once you find out how, you’ll never see it the same way again…” These words, taken from Pierce Taylor Hibbs' "Struck Down but Not Destroyed: Living Faithfully with Anxiety", are an invitation from Pierce to Christians into his own world of suffering, anxiety, pain, etc.  and to not merely do the best we can to reduce and minimize the pain and discomfort (the default assumed approach is "symptom reduction" or "deliverance" as the norm and presupposed goal), but to "Roll into your anxiety, as if it were a wave. It may roll you, but you’ll roll back stronger". Listen in and be stregnthed to look to Christ in your suffering.  For more interviews see www.TheLaymensLounge.com For more form Pierce Taylor Hibbs see http://PierceTaylorHibbs.com
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July 21, 2020
Matthew Kaemingk: "Work and Worship: Reconnecting Our Labor and Liturgy" A Discussion
Sunday worship and our Monday work desperately need to inform and impact each other but they often seem like worlds apart. Dr Matthew Kaemingk joins us to discuss his forthcoming book Work and Worship: Reconnecting Our Labor and Liturgy and traces work/working/worship in ancient Israel, labor/liturgy in the eary Church, and how we can intentionally, and naturally, bring them together in our time. Visit www.TheLaymensLounge.com for more goodness Visit https://www.matthewkaemingk.com/ for more on Dr. Kaemingk Read Moms, Marchers, and Managers: Priests All Three here
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July 18, 2020
Are We Saved by Grace but Kept-Saved by Good Works? A Conversation with Theocast about Resting in Jesus (Part 1)
Christians know we are saved by grace, but we often think we need to conjure up and produce a steady stream of good works to “stay saved” (quiet times, being nice to our baristas, “spiritual disciplines”, etc.). In this episode Pastor’s Jon Moffitt and Justin Perdue (from the www.Theocast.org podcast and ministry) sit down with us and “encourage weary pilgrims to rest in Christ” the “friend of sinners”. We are reminded that when we are united to Christ by faith (ie become Christians), that all the good works Jesus did have actually been credited to our accounts - in such a way that God now, and forever, views you as if YOU had performed those very works (in the same way that His death has become your death). Listen, look to Jesus, and rest. For this, and other interviews and articles, visit our website at www.TheLaymensLounge.com  · JON MOFFITT Bio/sermons/contact · JUSTIN PERDUE Bio/sermons/contact  · THEOCAST Podcasts/articles/teaching/etc.  · “Faith vs Faithfulness: A Primer On Rest” Free Theocast ebook 
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July 15, 2020
Richard Mouw: God Delights in Sacred Prayers and Songs, but What About Family BBQs, Pagan Art and Baseball?
We all know God delights in the sacred activity of prayers and songs of Christians, but does He also delight in "secular" things as well? Can He appreciate an amazing one-handed catch at a football game? How about ancient Chinese pottery? A soaring Hawk? A family trip to Disneyland? What about Haitian Voodoo art, The Game of Thrones and Zombies? And why do we talk with such joy when discussing backyard BBQs and beach trips, but we become very somber and heavy when we shift to the topic of discipleship? Listen in as we interview the great Richard Mouw as he unpacks his decades of study to equip the saints to further Glorify and enjoy God.
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July 7, 2020
Danny Hyde: Reasons for a Historic Christianity (Resting and Reformation)
Listen in as we interview Pastor/Scholar Danny Hyde and discuss how Christians are weary from thinking they always need to be "doing stuff" to impress Jesus and to "stay saved" rather than resting in Christ and His finished work on our behalf. Pastor Danny takes us through the history of Western Christianity's decay into self-centered pietism, and lost sight of the historical and longstanding Christian saints who have gone before us - especially that of the Reformers and the early Church. We ask: What hath welding to do with Christianity? What about restoring old gas pumps? Was Billy Grahm a Guru? What does a Reformed Chruch worship service look like when ordered in an intetional Christocentrc fashion? All this, and a few dad jokes along the way, in this episode of The Laymens Lounge podcast! Visit www.TheLaymensLounge.com for more
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July 2, 2020
Sam Storms: A Reformed Pastor who speaks in tounges, has visions, seen healings... Reminds Christians that we are commanded to pursue the gifts
Join us as we sit down with Reformed scholar/pastor/theologian, Sam Storms, who believes the Spiritual Gifts are still alive and that the church despertaley needs the power of God. We ask Sam: Are tounges just insane jibberish or are they something actually from God? Are the gifts for today or have they ceased with the Apostles? How can we actually believe the gifts when most people who "do" them are clearly charlatans? Should we seek the gifts or leave that to the charasmatics? Ive tried praying for healing, but have never seen it - why should we keep praying for them? Can we have joy, love our spouses, etc. apart from the Spirit? Are Christians commanded to pursue the gifts in their daily lives? For more interviews, articles, to equip normal Christians for noral life visit www.TheLaymensLounge.com
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June 10, 2020
Edwin van Driel: What is Jesus Doing? Is He on the move or asleep? How can we be a part of His activity?
Join us as we talk with Dr Edwin van Driel as we ask: what is Jesus doing? Is He even doing anything at all (because it seems like this world is going to hell and the Church seems to have no influence)? Is Jesus just a mental truth from 2,000 years ago or is He up to something today? Listen in on this edifying conversation. This, and all our transcribed/audio interviews, can be found at www.TheLaymensLounge.com
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May 21, 2020
John Walton: "Why did God 'rest' on the 7th day?" and Other Genesis Questions for the Modern Bible Reader
Join us as we interview Dr John Walton (professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College and one of the world's most prominent scholars and voices on Ancient near east background to the Bible) with crucial questions like 1. How do we read/interpret the creation account (literal 24 hours or something else)? 2. How did the original readers of Genesis read the creation account (function vs origin/house vs home). 3. What does it mean made in the image of God? 3. What was significant about "God resting on the 7th day"? And much more. This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at www.TheLaymensLounge.com
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March 5, 2020
Amos Yong: Exploring the Person and Work of the Holy Spirit
Join us as we interview Amos Yong (professor of Theology and Mission at Fuller Seminary) who seeks to bring Biblical clarity to the person and work of the Spirit, in the academy as well as the Church. In this discussion we ask who is the Spirit? What does the Spirit do? How do we get "filled" with the Spirit and what does that even mean?... This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at www.TheLaymensLounge.com
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March 4, 2020
Bruce Ashford: Storyline of the Bible & Cleaning Cats
Bruce Ashford is Professor of Theology & Culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and seeks to cultivate a “Christianity for the common good" with his conviction that Jesus is Lord and, for that reason, we should be thoughtful and intentional about how our belief in him should shape our lives. Join us as we discuss the storyline of the Bible, what cleaning cats has to do with Jesus, how to be a Christian where your just doing normal stuff. This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at www.TheLaymensLounge.com
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February 7, 2020