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The Laymens Lounge

The Laymens Lounge

Podcast interviews for everyday Christians trying to navigate normal everyday stuff that make up our wonderful (yet often horrible) existence. Listen-in as we (an appliance salesman and a business process analyst) interview Theologians about normal stuff - a Theology of, and for, us laymen (you know, our stuff like: work, leisure, hiking, sex, fighting, art, beer, music, self-image, doubt, the Gospel, depression, sales, baseball, the church, hippies, annoying neighbors, family, etc.).
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109. Jake Meador: Two White Guys on Race, Place & Parenting
Listen in as two white guys, not woke, but not asleep, talk about race, place and parenting and what it all means for our Christian life. Jake Meador is author of “What is Christianity For?” Please offer your thoughts, feedback, questions, etc at our Facebook Group Theology Applied
May 18, 2022
108. Ross Hastings: The Practical & Theological Implications of the Resurrection
“Whatever is true of Christ is true of humanity.” Today we chat with Dr. Ross Hastings, author of “The Resurrection of Jesus Christ: Exploring Its Theological Significance and Ongoing Relevance” to nuance and discuss the implications of the Resurrection. We touch on everything from Atonement models, sanctification, and the favor of God to the Cultural Mandate, Participation and Union. Dr. Hastings brings in Torrance, Barth, Calvin, Jonathan Edwards, Augustine and provides a helpful big-picture of the history of Jesus and how His history becomes ours.
April 12, 2022
107. Christopher Holmes: A Theology of the Christian Life
Are we Human Beings or Human Doings? Join us as we sit down with Christopher Holmes, author of A Theology of the Christian Life: Imitating and Participating in God, as we discuss the nitty gritty of the Christian life. Questions like, should all Christians (like my busy wife) be reading Theological books? Do we over-emphasize the Second person of the Trinity at the expense of the First? How does one “experience” God? Etc. All this and more.
April 06, 2022
106. Dan Strange: Is Everything A “Gospel Issue”?
Most Christians around me seem to be answering questions that nobody is asking. Christianity seems more to answer the question of a damned-soul and ethical living rather than scratching our most felt needs like: longing for romance, acclaim, self-confidence, and so on. Does God really care about those things because it seems the NT is chiefly concerned with Jew/gentile relations and helping Christians to get along. In what ways does the Gospel address my “secular” hopes and fears? Is everything a “Gospel issue”? Join us as we sit down with Dr. Daniel Strange, author of “Making Faith Magnetic: Five Hidden Themes Our Culture Can't Stop Talking About... And How to Connect Them to Christ.” Dr Strange helps set us up with a working theological anthropology and connects the dots on how our faith scratches all human itches.
March 23, 2022
105. Bill Dyrness: How to Glorify & Enjoy God by Considering the Lilies of the Field
Rejoice! God is interested in your hobbies, your projects, and the things you love “Glorify God and enjoy Him forever…” That sounds great, but how exactly does one do that? In what way does my considering the lilies of the field glorify God? Does God care about my hobbies, my stamp collection, and my walks on the beach? Does God have enjoyment when I enjoy my favorite baseball team? What does Christianity applied look like for normal folk? Join us as we sit down with William A. Dyrness, a breath of fresh air in contrast to the musty, disconnected, Christian “academic” world of talking-heads. Dr. Dyrness said “Over the years we were grappling with an underlying issue. If all Christians have a responsibility to bring their deepest convictions into contact with their most everyday concerns, what are the most effective ways for doing this?’” Theorists are a dime a dozen and just a master’s degree away, but clear thinking belongs to everyone (or so it should), yet clarity of faith in our lived-lives often seems so illusive for so many of us – not least the “professional Christians.” Dr. Dyrness is having none of that. Please join us and be edified as we discuss how to live an extraordinarily normal life in the face of our extraordinary God in the context of stamp collecting, cold beer, and considering the lilies of the field.
March 15, 2022
104. Bruce Ashford: Politics for Christians Who Aren’t Political
Christian Democrats? Church & State? “Not of this world”? Join us as we sit down with Bruce Ashford (author of “Letters to an American Christian” and “One Nation Under God: A Christian Hope for American Politics”) asking questions like: 1. Should Christians even concern themselves with Politics? Jesus didn’t care about polotics, so should we? 2. It just seems like an abyss of lies and a world a million miles away if which the small people can do nothing, so why even bother? 3. Should we be “one issue voters” (anti-Abortion)? Can you be a Christian and Democrat? 4. Should we vote Republican – where there are more abortions, or for Democrats – where there are less abortions? Can you explain that tension? 5. Small or large government? 6. The god of “progress”? And the religious overtones taken on by liberals. 7. Is it the roll of the government to put in place Covid restrictions? If so, what are the parameters? 8. How can so many Kuyper-loving neo-Calvinists be flaming liberals?
March 09, 2022
103. John Walton vs. the World (of man-made Interpretive grids)
Let God be true and every hermeneutic a liar John Walton appreciates Calvin, gleans from Vos, and his happy to draw from the ancient confessions - but he offers them no allegiance. Metanarratives and hermeneutical grids abound, but so do the interpretive pitfalls that come with them. Walton gets right to the heart of it saying, “The labels we use are the ones we are accountable.” He just wants us to read our Bible faithfully, even if it means we can’t be card-carrying members of any one interpretive school. His hermeneutic is simple and one every Bible should adopt before all else: “The strongest interpretation is the one with the strongest evidence.”
March 01, 2022
102. Jan Boer: Reflections from A Neo-Calvinist Missionary in Nigeria
What does Neo-Calvinism applied look like? 84 years of insight Today we sit down with Jan Boer, an 84 year old Dutch/Canadian who is a translator of Kuyper, student of Evan H. Runner, and a missionary in Nigeria for over 30 years where neo-Calvinism was no theoretical exercise, but a world-and-life-view applied in the day-to-day of everyday life. Of neo-Calvinist philosophers, political theorists, and cultural commentators there are no end, but rare is the neo-Calvinist missionary and practioner who labor in planting and watering the seeds of the holistic Gospel, and then walk with them as they face draught as well as yield fruit – and that is what we have in Jan Boer. Upon returning to North America after decades in Nigeria, and seeing the folly that makes up so much Christianity today, Jan’s is a voice we modern’s need to hear and heed. Listen in as we discuss: - Studying under Evan H. Runner - Translating Abraham Kuyper (including many of his devotional work) - The wholistic Gospel vs the bifurcated message - Applying Kuyperian thought in Nigeria to issues like roads and bridges, water pumps, polygamy, church, and every square inch of village life - The CRC, the fact that we neo-Calvinists no longer create institutions, and the fact that “We produce nothing new.” And more…
February 23, 2022
101. Dennis Greeson: Herman Bavinck, Theosis & T.F. Torrance
When Union & Theosis Shake Hands “These themes of perfection, union with Christ, and the necessity of the incarnation point to the fact that Bavinck’s theology is profoundly ripe for the incorporation of the summative theme of theosis. This is the notion that humanity is meant to be united to and participate in the trinitarian life of God… There is a fundamental similarity between this element of Bavinck’s thought and the doctrine of theosis… Thomas F. Torrance’s doctrine of theosis, as a facet of his broader trinitarian theology, to highlight that not only do Bavinck and Torrance bear some surprising similarities, but also Torrance provides language helpful to reexamine Bavinck’s eschatological anthropology in light of the category of theosis” – Dennis Greeson Join us as we sit down with Dennis Greeson, author of “Theosis in the Thought of Herman Bavinck?: Thomas F. Torrance’s Reconstruction of the Doctrine and its Promise for Bavinck’s Theology,” and discuss the big picture of Christianity. Aided by Herman Bavinck, drawing from Thomas F. Torrance, and nuanced by Myk Habets – Greeson does us all a favor here helping us to rebuke the false hierarchy of evangelism, prayer, etc. Grace restores nature. Indeed.
February 14, 2022
100. David Zahl: The Law/Gospel Distinction as Highest Theological Importance
If you know only one thing, know this “Whoever knows well this art of distinguishing between Law and Gospel, him place at the head and call him a doctor of Holy Scripture." – Martin Luther “The distinction between law and gospel is the highest art in Christendom.” – Martin Luther “The reality of God’s grace is so radical that we often find ourselves trying to domesticate it, unconsciously (or not), imposing all manner of fine print about what constitutes acceptance or rejection… Our tit-for-tat programming is so strong that it tends to hijack the beauty of grace, and instead position it conditionally.” – David Zahl “It is finished.” – Jesus Today is our 100th episode and so I thought we would discuss, what I believe to be the most important topic in all of Theology and all of life and that is THE LAW & GOSPEL. Join us as we sit down with David Zahl, co-author of “Law & Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints)” – because, indeed, “It is finished.”
February 10, 2022
99. Joustra: A Kuyperian Calvinism for a Secular Age
“Humanity is no aimless mass of people which only serves the purpose of giving birth to the elect. On the contrary, the world now, as well as in the beginning, is the theater for the mighty works of God, and humanity remains a creation of His hand, which, apart from salvation, completes under this present dispensation, here on earth, a mighty process, and in its historical development is to glorify the name of Almighty God.” --- Abraham Kuyper “Abraham Kuyper loved Calvinism. We might even characterize his passion for Calvinism as unusual; most Calvinists today try to appear as nonthreatening, beer drinking, bearded hipsters. Kuyper was none of those things. [It was a] passion for Calvinism as “a true world and life system.” --- Robert Joustra Abraham Kuyper, the Dutch Neo-Calvinist theologian, pastor, and politician, was well-known for having declared that there is "not a square inch" of human existence over which Jesus Christ is not its sovereign Lord. This principle is perhaps best reflected in Kuyper's writings on Calvinism originally delivered as the Stone Lectures in 1898 at Princeton Theological Seminary. These lectures reflecting on the role of the Christian faith in a variety of social spheres—including religion, politics, science, and art—have become a touchstone for contemporary Reformed theology. How might the lectures continue to inform the church's calling in a secular age? In this book, Jessica Joustra and Robert Joustra bring together theologians, historians, scientists, and others to revisit Kuyper's original lectures and to critically consider both his ongoing importance and his complex legacy for today. Join us as we sit down with Jessica and Robert and discuss their own stories and why they are drawn to Kuyper - we discuss what neo-Calvinists, since Kuyper’s lectures, have said, done, and are poised to do. Reformed, always reforming indeed. Petrification is not an option. Pro Rege!
January 28, 2022
98. Jonathan Gibson: Is True “Spirituality” Known or Experienced?
Means, Ends & Expectations of Personal Devotion What should my “quiet time” consist of? What should be taking place – increased knowledge? felt experience? And, either way, what are the appointed means? Are “quiet times” even a biblical concept? What did the people of God do before the printing press? Join us as we sit down with Jonathan Gibson, author of “Be Thou My Vision: A Liturgy for Daily Worship” (Crossway), and discuss the most illusive facts of the enshrined “quiet time.”
January 25, 2022
97. Steve Garber: The Core Longings of the Human Heart
Satiated with Kuyper as Mystics or the with Kuyper as Cerebral Theologians and Worldviewers?  Join us we sit down with Steven Garber and identify and discuss the core longings of the human heart – especially those of the Christian. We ask questions like “how can Christian’s experience God?” - “Is Abraham Kuyper’s mysticism unachievable?” - “What values is there in merely reading about God and Theology?” - “What should the Christian life consist of?” – and more…
January 18, 2022
96. George Harinck: The State of Neo-Calvinisim in the Netherlands and Abroad
The Rise, Demise, and Global Resurgence of Abraham Kuyper Listen in as we sit down with the treasurer of the heritage of neo-Calvinism himself: Dr. George Harinck. In this episode we survey the spread and implications Abraham Kuyper and Herman Bavinck thoughts and teachings.  This interview is kicking off a series that will run the next few months at called "The State of Neo-Calvinism." Come back each week to read about the state and influence of neo-Calvinisim in nations ranging from Mexico and the Philippines to Wales and Egypt.
January 03, 2022
95. Myk Habets: The Joy of a Trinitarian Christmas
Naming the presence of God in our midst “God with us.” God with us? “YHWH with us” (But isn’t that the first person of the Trinity?)? Jesus left, but he leaves the Spirit? And that’s better how? Join us as we sit down with Myk Habets to nuance the points of contact, the roles of, and the relations of the Trinity in our life as well as praying in a Trinitarian way.
December 16, 2021
94. Chad Bird: When the Old Testament Sprouts Wings & It All Starts to Make Sense
Gettin’ stoked on metaphor, allusion, & foreshadowing Chad Bird is in the business of turning on lights. If you crack open one of his books, or listen to his podcasts, don’t’ be surprised if one of his hands comes out of the book and flips the switch on your Old Testament understanding. Most of us see the Old Testament like a pepper-sprayed collection of curiosities and divinely bizzarro truth and most of my life has been riding shotgun with the Ethiopian Eunuch saying with him “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And then your boy Chad the “Phillip” Bird drops a few podcast episodes and pens a couple books in my chariot, and just like that, I’m looking around screaming “where’s the water?!!!!” cause it’s all starting to make sense and I’m stoked cause I see Jesus on every page. “Moses-centrality holds true for the apostles... Study Romans, Galatians, Peter’s epistles, Hebrews, James, or Revelation and ask yourself, ‘Why do these authors quote or allude to the Torah much more frequently than they do the words of Jesus? Because no gospels had yet been written?’ No, that can hardly be the reason. Even if Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were not yet written, the teachings and sayings of Jesus would have been circulating orally. Then why does Moses get more apostolic press than Christ’s own words?” Join us as we sit down with Chad Bird, co-host of “40 Minutes in the OT” and author of “The Christ Key: Unlocking the Centrality of Christ in the Old Testament” (1517 Publications), as he shows us “What the Gospels will shout from the rooftops has already been whispered from the foundation of the Torah.” Yet “the majority of Christians prefer to meander down the well-worn paths of the smaller NT garden than to venture among the weird and wild prophetic fauna of the Tanak,” but once you get a lay of the land with a guide like Chad Bird, you’ll be equipped to head off on your own down the road to Emmaus.
December 13, 2021
93. Tom Schreiner: A Christmas Survey of Matthew 1:1-25
Genealogy, “14 Generations,” the "Son of David," the “Christ," the Exile We had the privilege of sitting down with Dr. Tom Schreiner to discuss the first chapter of Matthew – asking how best to make sense of it all and have our calloused hearts hear the story afresh. Join us as we take a Christmas stroll through advent portions of Matthew with the sweetheart of sweethearts the good Dr. Tom Schreiner.
December 09, 2021
92. Gary Colledge: Who was Charles Dickens?
Everybody loves Charles Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol” (well, at least the movies), but who was this man? Was he best friends with Hudson Taylor and annoyed with Charles Spurgeon? Was he an ideal husband or a bit of a playboy? Did he leave his children to their own devices, or did he pen an entire book solely for their edification and growth in Christ? Listen in as we are joined with Charles Dickens go-to scholar, and author of "God and Charles Dickens: Recovering the Christian Voice of a Classic Author,” Dr. Gary L. Colledge and discuss all things Dickens.
December 02, 2021
91. James Houston: 99 Years of Insight on Spiritual Formation
A Hospitable Bed Interview on Spiritual Formation with Jim Houston “I came here to die.” Speaking from Hospice that is what Christian pillar James Houston, who is 99 years old, told me on our chat today – yet he is still writing and still offering wisdom to weary souls (read his "Letters From A Hospital Bed: Reflections From a 99 Year Old" here) and offers a lifetime of insight in these 45 minutes. In this interview with Dr. Houston, I had the great honor to glean wisdom on everything from spiritual health and cultivation (“We need to ask God to allow us to dream about Him each night.” “We need to remove obstacles that keep us from a love-affair with God… Let God be the last thing you think about each night, not the news or a book or a movie…”) to Trinitarian theology of participation, and to the Evangelical over-emphasis on “Systematic Theology” (As opposed to, what he suggests, a healthy “Child Theology”). His book, “Memoirs of a Joyous Exile and a Worldly Christian” is a short chronicle of his life that reads like a constellation of relationships and formation (Jim was family friends with James Torrance and the Torrance family, Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones was a conversation partner, he was colleagues with J.I. Packer, he was in a small group with C.S Lewis, a co-author with Bruce Waltke, neighbors with JRR Tolkien, had his orthodoxy checked by Francis Schaeffer and his friend John Stott, is related, by marriage, to Jim and Elizabeth Elliot, and then the list goes on and on with other paths crossing of Carl F.H. Henry, F.F. Bruce, Malcom Muggeridge, Charles Colson, Os Guinness, Leon Morris, etc.). I’m grateful to Dr. Houston and his daughter Claire who helped this interview.
November 29, 2021
90. Michael Cooper: Is Church Planting Biblical?
Questions about what we have assumed A few weeks ago, I happened upon a 2-part article series by Michael Cooper called “Ephesiology and the Critique of Church Planting Movements” and “Is Church Planting a Biblical Mandate?” and so, I’m not a deconstructionist, but I do appreciate a good questioning of what has been assumed. Listen in as we sit down with Dr. Cooper and discuss Paul’s model of making disciples, and all the rage that is “the church planting movement.”
November 23, 2021
89. Thomas Kidd: Literally the Best Thanksgiving & Pilgrim Interview Ever
Getting the Big Picture of the Pilgrims. Fact vs Fiction. Pilgrim Theological Emphasis. Theonomy Applied. Etc. Thomas Kidd just showed me that I really am a product of the California public school system as he separates pilgrim, Mayflower, and Thanksgiving fact from fiction. It’s not just that he corrects snippets of legend-as-history, but he fills out the pilgrim experiment and gives us the big picture and goals of these "separatists." Not just "why did they leave England?" - but what did they do when they got here? What happened to them after 10, 20, 100 years of being here? Just who were these pilgrims? What was their theology? Did they read Calvin and Luther – and who are their modern counterparts (and Ill just tell you now: it might be the OPC and PCA)? What was so horrible in England that they would endure 9 months on a ship and possibly freeze to death? Did they evangelize the native population? Did they eat turkeys or fill their bellies with a big ol' plate of eel? And what became of them - are Cotton Mather, Jonathan Edwards and the East Coast Congregationalists their successors? Was Squanto really a figure in their lives? Did they implement the mosaic law on the colony (what would you do if you could have a fresh start and surrounded by Christians and could do anything you felt was wise), and was a man caught in bestiality stoned to death? And, of course, the pressing question: should Christians cancel Thanksgiving or redeem it?
November 15, 2021
88. A History & Theology of Contemporary Worship
Lim Swee Hong and Lester Ruth “God inhabits the praises of His people” Psalm 22:3. With this verse as the Theological lynchpin, a new way of worshipping God took root, and continues to this day. New forms of worship have transformed the face of the American church over the past fifty years. Drawing on a wide range of primary sources, including interviews with dozens of important stakeholders and key players, this volume by two worship experts, Lim Swee Hong and Lester Ruth, offer the first comprehensive history of Contemporary Praise & Worship. The authors provide insight into where this phenomenon began (by the way, it was NOT the Jesus People hippies in California… But was in Jan ’46 in Canada) and how it reshaped the Protestant church. They also emphasize the span of denominational, regional, and ethnic expressions of contemporary worship, taking into account the liturgical dynamics involved it its emergence and the dynamics that led to its growth. The authors show that Contemporary Praise & Worship came about through theological reflection on the Bible, not merely as the result of cultural impulses. In this interview we hit emotionalism, hype, the goal of worship, liturgy, trinitarian theology, compelling artists (Kanye West, the Gettys, Bethel, Jesus Culture, Sandra Sandra McCracken).
November 12, 2021
87. Collin Hansen: 15 Years After Young, Restless and Reformed... Where Are They Now?
15 years ago Collin Hansen identified a movement; “Young, Restless and Reformed.” John Piper, Mark Driscoll, John MacArthur were all pillars. With a heavy emphasis on a Calvinist soteriology, many of them, mostly from the Baptistic tradition, were pleased to cultivate a little bit of rootedness in the 2006 world of relativism and “you do you.” But, its been a long 15 years and now these guys have grown up. Some are now pastors, some are apostate and “deconstructed”, and no small amount have taken their own lives. There was no agreed upon natural progression of "what’s next?" and we haven't seen a cohesive YRR 2.0 planned or executed. After awhile, most of them broke out of the cage-stage and began to ask questions like “Ok, so I'm elect – what does that mean for me as a dad, as a pastor, and as someone who is still hungry for truth? What is the telos of my faith other than being theologically sound? Is Christianity just a heaven to gain and hell to shun?”  Jonathan Edwards is still Collin Hansen’s homeboy – but so is James K.A. Smith, Charles Taylor, Tim Keller (while for others its Bavinck, Joe Rogan, Martin Luther, Jordan Peterson, Abraham Kuyper, etc.). The John Piper books are still on Collin's shelf it's just now they are covered with a light dust. Indeed, YRR was never to be the end. It was never the final word and there were still many itches that YRR didn’t scratch. Many of the ever-hungry (and dissatisfied) YRR alumni have gone the way of liturgy, Anglican/Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic. Some sought to see their faith applied to “every square inch” of their lives and so fell in with the Kuyperians (the OG “neo-Calvinists" by the way), still others became Sacramentarians, and a few to the Lutheran camp with the much-needed reality of a proper Law/Gospel distinction (especially those who thought to be "radical" meant being anything other than a pastor or missionary was sub-Christian, at best, and a "wasted life" at worst). Regardless where the YRR alum have ended up, most all of them have seen the fact that useless are the days of the “Theological cultural warrior” for the day-to-day. Join us as we sit down with Collin Hansen and survey the YRR movement asking “where are they now?” and attempt to connect dots of progression (and sometimes the regression) from that starting point. 
November 04, 2021
86. Pierce Hibbs: Gratitude Isn’t just for Hippie Girls with Hairy Armpits Weeping over the Ocean, Rainbows and Organic Granola Bars
A Trinitarian Theolog of Gratitude and Giving “We swim in gifts, in things given freely by God… But you don’t feel this very often though, do you? Neither do I. The greatest irony of being alive is that we treat gifts as possessions, generosity as commonplace, grace as summer grass-something to be stepped on and forgotten with every lifting muscle… We unwrap so many gifts every moment that we forget it’s Christmas morning, that God is watching every spark of joy, and every shrug of the shoulders.” – Pierce Taylor Hibbs from “The Book of Giving: How the God Who Gives Can Make Us Givers” Join us as we sit down with Pierce Taylor Hibbs while helps us to major on the majors. The attributes of God, trinitarian realities, “the giving circle”, and all manner of truth that does something for our lived lives.
November 02, 2021
85. Benji Magness: Christians, the Twilight Zone, Punk Rock and Creepy Cultural Goods
Join us as we sit down with Pastor Benji Magness and discuss the life of the believer and the enjoyment (or rejection?) of Rod Serling and The Twilight Zone, creepy stuff and horror films, punk rock and burning your CDs at church camp. 
October 26, 2021
84. Sandra Richter: Hermeneutics, Meredith Kline and Isaiah
Dr. Sandra Richter speaks all manner of ancient languages, has a doctorate from Harvard, is a professor, an archeologist, a leading voice in academic theological/historical/hermeneutical discussions, and she wants to help normal Christians read and understand the Old Testament.  Dr. Richter is the author of the heavily circulated book “The Epic of Eden: A Christian Entry into the Old Testament”, it really is the go-to book for getting the big picture of the Old Testament and informs our New Testament reading as well. 
October 11, 2021
83. Matthew Barrett: The Eternal Relations of Origin in the Trinity
Father as “Not Begotten” – Son as “Begotten” – Spirit as “Spirated” Join us as we sit down with the Trinity powerhouse Dr. Matthew Barrett author of “Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit” (Baker). Dr. Barrett has done the heavy lifting for us in reviewing the last 2,000 years of making sense of the Trinity and how it functions, while also dealing with some of the whack and novel ideas that have risen the last hundred years (especially the last 20 years).
September 27, 2021
82. Byron Borger: To Be A Christian Everything
“I’ve found Borger’s vocation to be more similar to a pharmacist than a bookseller. People come to Hearts and Minds [Bookstore] with one deficiency or another. After some listening, Borger prescribes just the right supplement of Al Wolters or Richard Middleton or an obscure gem hidden in a tacky dust jacket… Byron is the Michael Jordan of synthesizing ideas. Each ["BookNotes”] post is rife with connections: connections between art and faith, between politics and science, between gardening and prayer. Byron is a true interdisciplinarian, a renascence man if ever there was one.” - Dustin Messer “Somewhere in central Pennsylvania there is a warm and inviting labyrinth called Hearts & Minds Bookstore. Byron and Beth Borger, the caretakers of Hearts & Minds, have worked there tirelessly for over three decades to create a space for serious, reflective readers. The Borgers are committed to helping their customers live out Christ’s Lordship in the midst of our highly secularized, postmodern culture. They have carried out this mission through their shop, mail-order services, and book tables at conferences around the country. Their unremitting efforts to offer quality books for thinking biblically about every area of life has inspired a volume on this, their bookstore’s thirty-fifth anniversary. One of the many ways Hearts & Minds has blessed their customers has been through BookNotes. In those reviews, Byron shares colorful anecdotes and passionate arguments for why to read books, and amplified lists suggesting what books to read. In this book, the Borger’s friends have adopted the BookNotes model and offer a defense for books in their spheres of interest, along with a number of titles for the reader to consider investing their time in for deeper study.” – From “A Book For Hearts & Minds: What You Should Read and Why”
September 21, 2021
81. Gene Veith: Johnny Cash, Martin Luther & Jesus
In part 2 of our interview with Lutheran/Country Music/Vocation powerhouse, Dr. Gene Veith (part 1 is here), author of “The Spirituality of the Cross: The Way of the First Evangelicals” (Concordia Publishing House), we chat country-music Christians (did you know Lyle Lovett and Kris Kristofferson are Lutherans?! Did you know Loretta Lynn’s had a home, now abandoned, in Hawaii a few miles from my house?!) – what do we do with polarizing Christians like Hank Williams and Johnny Cash (are they “baby Christians”? Are they even Christians? Should we even ask this question?)? We also chat “closet Lutherans”, 1 John as it pertains to naval-Gazing/fruit-Checking and assurance, the paradoxes of Lutheranism that are so helpful (Law/Gospel, Saint/Sinner, etc.), the practice of confession of sins and absolution (”I forgive you”), and a few other precious gems of reality. To discuss the implications, get clarity, on this, or any of our episodes, head over to the Facebook group “Theology Applied” and join the discussion. Dr. Veith, in addition to being a medium of good news, is also a medium of communicating good country music. He is the author “Honky-Tonk Gospel: The Story of Sin and Salvation in Country Music” and so he knows some proper country tunes when he hears them.
September 16, 2021
80. Fred Sanders: Father, Son & Spirit Does it Matter?
Attempting to Apply a Mystery to Daily Life Join us as we sit down with Trinity-nuance master Fred Sanders and bombard him with questions on all things Father, Son and Spirit. Dr. Sanders is the author/editor of “The Third Person of the Trinity Explorations in Constructive Dogmatics”, the modern classic “The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything” and just released “Fountain of Salvation: Trinity and Soteriology”
September 08, 2021
79. Eve Tibbs: A Primer on Eastern Orthodoxy
“Eastern Orthodoxy is perceived as an exotic and picturesque remnant from an alien past” -Bartholomew I (the 270th and current archbishop of Constantinople) “It is the stability of thought in Orthodox theology that has generated the greatest interest from my Protestant students, primarily because of their often-new realization that there still exists a “predenominational” and Apostolic Christian worldview that is largely unaffected by the polemical debates of the Reformation. In fact, many of the doctrines and dogmas of Eastern Orthodoxy can certainly be embraced by those outside the Orthodox Church, such as its trinitarian theology and its conciliar approach to leadership and administration.” -Eve Tibbs Dr. Eve Tibbs (Affiliate Associate Professor of Theology at Fuller Theological Seminary) and author of “A Basic Guide to Eastern Orthodox Theology: Introducing Beliefs and Practices” (Baker Academic). Join us as we try to get a big picture of what Eastern Orthodoxy is, especially as it is contextualized to Protestants, Lutherans, Reformed, Kuyperians, etc. In this episode we ask Dr. Tibbs questions like: - What is the chief end of man for Eastern Orthodoxy? - Why didn’t Luther just become Eastern Orthodox since he thought they hadn’t veered like Roman Catholic? Was Eastern Orthodoxy an option for him? - What steps did Melanchthon and other Lutherans take to discuss being united with East? - Who/what defines orthodoxy? Creeds? Confession? What do Orthodox folks gather around? - What does ultimate piety look like for Eastern Orthodoxy? - Why the beards and black garb? - What is the function of the sign of the cross?
August 31, 2021
78. John Bolt: Herman Bavinck’s Ethics & the Motivation for Good Works
Fuel for Ethics from WWJD? Fake it ‘til You Make it? “Kingdom”? Gratitude? Imitation? or Creation? “As Bavinck works out the concrete content of his ethics in this volume (Reformed Ethics Volume 2), he joins the long tradition of Reformed ethicists and turns to the Decalogue and the notion of duty. That move could be disconcerting for some who have recently turned to the “kingdom ethics” of union with and imitation of Christ because that emphasis is seen as a counter to the role of law and duty in Christian living.” – John Bolt Listen in as we sit down with Dr. John Bolt (editor of Herman Bavinck’s 4 volume “Reformed Dogmatics” as well as Bavinck’s “Reformed Ethics Volume 1”, and the forthcoming “Reformed Ethics Volume 2: The Duties of the Christian Life”) and have a compelling discussion on WHY we Christians live ethically and what our MOTIVATION for ethical living springs from. BAVINCK “REFORMED ETHICS VOL. 2” BOOK GIVEAWAY: · Thanks to Baker Academic, were giving away a copy of Bavinck’s “Reformed Dogmatics Volume 2” and thanks to us - a Herman Bavinck sticker (as well as an Abraham Kuyper sticker). To enter, join the “Theology Applied” Facebook page (link here), and simply join the conversation (this a place for butchers, bakers and candlestick makers as well as failures, know-it-alls and jerks to discuss Theology as it applies to our lived lives). To pre-order the book please reach out to the pillars of kindness and customer service, the beacons of hope for the brick-and-mortar bookstores, the good people of Hearts & Minds Books. Please reach out to them, they will take care of you. 
August 23, 2021
77. Matthew Kaemingk: Reformed Public Theology
A glimpse into “Holy Worldliness” across the globe “Through the making of culture, as opposed to simply criticizing it, Christian architects, entrepreneurs, farmers, and city planners offer their neighbors new ways of living and being in the public square.” “The flourishing of one individual requires the flourishing of schools and families, courts and businesses, artist guilds and sports teams, newspapers and unions, churches and sewer systems. Public theologians therefore refuse to narrow their theological conception of flourishing to just the political, the economic, the spiritual, or the aesthetic. Instead, they aim to further the manifold flourishing of public life.” “Public theologians endeavor to serve as translators and bridge builders across worlds long divided. When they do speak, public theologians tend to engage in two primary forms of discourse: public persuasion and public critique.” Join us we sit down with Dr. Matthew Kaemingk and discuss “Reformed Public Theology A Global Vision for Life in the World” – a book that celebrates Richard Mouw and seeks to continue his legacy that encourages a “holy worldliness”, a truly “Reformed public theology”.
August 19, 2021
76. Jon Tyson: The Intentional Father
A Practical Guide to Raise Sons of Consequence "We need to have a vision of the day our sons will leave our homes and work backward from that day with a plan to help them gain the knowledge, skills, character, and experiences they need. This will enable them to move into the world as confident and healthy men. That’s when the questions will start pouring into your mind. What have I given him? What wisdom, what love, what lessons is he carrying into the world? What brokenness is he bearing? What is my legacy to him?" "Formation happens day by day; distortion happens day by day. We are either helping our sons move into adulthood or joining the culture’s attempt to trap them in an extended adolescence." “May it never be said that your son thinks there is more wisdom about life from Google and YouTube than from you.” “Somebody is going to disciple your son. Somebody is going to give your son wisdom on how to live, and it’s either going to be you and a community of godly men or it’s going to be the world. Your son is going to become someone—he is going to grow up. His character will be formed by someone.” Hence forth, may their richest experiences be ones we curated and planned for them intentionally, not just random, traumatic events that lead to brokenness. Listen in as we sit down with Jon Tyson, author of book “The Intentional Father: A Practical Guide to Raise Sons of Courage and Character”, and get in the nitty gritty of raising our sons with intentionality rather than shooting from the hip. Self-initiation is killing our young men. Without strong mentors, boys are walking alone into a wilderness of conflicting messages about who they should be as men. It's no wonder that our sons are confused about what the world expects from them and what they should expect of themselves. The Intentional Father is the antidote. This concise book is filled with practical steps to help men raise sons of consequence--young men who know what they believe, know who they are, and will stand up against the negative cultural trends of our day. Jon Tyson lays out a clear path for fathers and sons that includes specific activities, rites of passage, and significant "marking moments" that can be customized to fit any family. It's not enough to hope our sons will become good men. We need them to be good at being men. This book shows how fathers, grandfathers, and other male mentors can lead the way. You can buy the book from the machine that is Amazon here, or you can support the saints who run Hearts & Minds Bookstore by emailing them here.
August 17, 2021
75. Gene Veith: The Lutheran Option (Part 1)
Listen in, because the Gospel is not just “true”, but it is actually truly wonderfully good news – and not just in theory but in lived-reality. Dr. Gene Veith, author of “The Spirituality of the Cross: The Way of the First Evangelicals” (Concordia Publishing House), serves us up what the ingredients for true joy and true rest in Christ and his finished work.
August 10, 2021
74. J. Richard Middleton: What Should Image Bearers be Doing?
“You don’t use your job as an excuse to evangelize, but you treat people as full human beings – and part of being a human being is you have spirituality, and they may not even be a Christian, but they are still a spiritual person, and they have spiritual needs." - J. Richard Middleton "The proper way to exercise dromion is through love and generosity and in a world of evil that will inevitably involve suffering. That’s what happened with Jesus – He is manifesting what it means to be human” - J. Richard Middleton Listen in as we sit down with Dr. J. Richard Middleton to discuss the forest and the trees of being image-bearers, God's purpose for the world, God's generosity, the great change that took place the moment God resolved to create humanity and good Jamaican and world reggae for your listening pleasure.
August 03, 2021
73. Courtney Reissig: A Theology of Being A Stay at Home Mom
Christ infuses purpose into every facet of the ordinary. Folding laundry. Weeding the garden. Cooking dinner. Changing diapers. Work in the home can seem so ordinary. Does any of it matter? Is there meaning in our most mundane moments at home? When the work of the home fills our days, it is easy to get disillusioned and miss God’s grand purpose for our work. As image bearers of the Creator who made us to work, we contribute to society, bringing order out of chaos and loving God through loving others—meaning there’s glory in every moment. Join us as we sit down with Courtney Reissig, author of “Glory in the Ordinary: Why Your Work in the Home Matters to God” as she combats the common misconceptions about the value of at-home work—thus helping us see how Christ infuses purpose into every facet of the ordinary. We’re giving away two copies of the book, share this interview and tag us to be entered.
July 28, 2021
72. Makoto Fujimura: A Theology of Making - Created to Create
Before the Fall, we were all artists and poets “Can our churches be beautiful again, and not just promote goodness and truth?... It’s one thing to make our work, our business, our arts and our political endeavors good and even ‘successful.’ It’s another to aspire to make them beautiful. It’s one thing to try educate and raise our children to be good and ‘successful,’ but it’s another to try to raise them to be beautiful.” Listen in as we sit down with Makoto Fujimura, author of, “Art + Faith: A Theology of Making” and discuss the living-and-beautiful reality of God and His image-bearers. Makoto gives no quarter for mere Theology-as-a-hobby or for a truncated Gospel (or “plumbing theology”). In sitting down with Makoto we don’t get novel and new, rather, we get original telos and tangibles implications of creation and new creation. This interview is for humans seeking full humanity.
July 21, 2021
71. Winn Collier: Eugene Peterson for the Butcher, Baker & Befuddled Cement Layers
“The Bible became alive to Him, it was not as some Elizabethan artifact but as a living book, appropriate for the gritty lives of butchers, cement layers, radio-preaching mothers, and the drunks who lounged in the alley behind his father’s Butcher shop. People around the world were picking up books with his name on it--picking them up and sensing they’d found a voice that spoke their language. Vast numbers of readers recognized in Eugene’s words a hunger they’d forgotten, a craving for an authentic encounter with God. They were hungry for a vision calling them into the wondrous expanse of a life that honored what it meant to be a beloved (yet finite) human living under the mercy of God. They found all this in the words of Eugene Peterson.” Join us as we sit down with Winn Collier, the authorized biographer of Eugene Peterson, and discuss his book “A Burning in My Bones: The Authorized Biography of Eugene H. Peterson”. “His life and work had been more like tracing a scent than following a map. Discovery, not direction.” – Winn Collier “I keep a stack of cards of people that Im supposed to call on my desk and whenever I get tired of seminary and begin to get that dusty, mink-like perspective, I grab some cards, jump on the subway and presto!-Im back in a real world again.” – Eugene Peterson “Ive grown to detest the dry, unreal academic life. If there is anything I don’t want to be it is a tiresome, tedious, cold exacting seminary professor.” – Eugene Peterson
June 28, 2021
70. Bruce Pass: Herman Bavinck’s Theology as a Living Being
Listen in as we sit down with Dr. Bruce Pass and discuss his book “The Heart of Dogmatics: Christology and Christocentrism in Herman Bavinck”. Here we are guided by the hand of Bavinck and Dr. Pass into a Theology that is no mere academic hobby but where Theology is a living-being animated by true religion. Like a heart this living-being pumps blood and life to the needed areas in the body. Dr. Pass shows us how Bavinck’s though that, much like the Universe is the center of the solar “system”, Christ is the center of the Christian theological system.
June 25, 2021
69. Mark Roques: Cheeky Stories as Evangelism, Cultural Critique & A Compelling Challenge to Idolatry
“I immediately saw that neither pious homilies or straightforward religious education were cutting it. Instead, I brought in albums, video and newspaper clips. By exploring the stories behind pop music, entertainment and sports reporting with them I was able to unpack the underlying worldview. Not only does this approach work, it works without any complaints of preaching or indoctrination. Vital in today’s pluralist society. Stories are disarming!... We’ve used the same approach to name and shame the individualistic and materialist belief system that mugs so many today.” – Mark Roques
June 16, 2021
68. Matt Merker: Is Worship an Experience of Transaction?
“Our weary hearts long to hear the gospel reverberate around us in surround sound. We hear the voices of our fellow church members and remember that were not in this alone. God has welcomed us into his family.” Listen in as we sit down with Matt Merker, author of “Corporate Worship: How the Church Gathers as God’s People” (Crossway, 2021), asking him about all things worship/singing at church. Questions include: 1. Can you give us a historical overview of worship since Jesus? 2. What trends are very much products of the 21stcent? 3. Is worship with singing more sacred than, say, worship by other mediums (like presenting our bodies as living sacrifices to God… praying to God in lament… swimming in the ocean with a grateful heart… leading a peaceful and quiet life, etc.)? 4. Who is the singing for? 5. How should we views questions/comments like “How was worship?”… “Worship was awesome today!”? 6. To what end do we worship? 7. Is worship an experience or a transaction? 8. Can you help us set a proper expectation of a dedicated time of worship? 9. Can you speak to a few of the current trends we might hear in a worship time like “We want more” and “Who needs a fresh touching?” 10. What if I go to a church where the lyrics are just completely off? Do we just check-out and read the Psalms - or do we full-on find a new church - or do we sing-a-long with things we can’t sing in-faith about?
June 09, 2021
67. Michael Kruger: The 10 Commandments of Progressive Christianity
Not long ago, Dr. Michael Kruger came across a list of ten principles set forth by proponents of progressive Christianity. They are, in effect, a new Ten Commandments. What’s striking is that they are far less about God revealing his desires and far more about man expressing his own—less Moses, more Oprah. Yet each of these “commandments” is partially true. Indeed, that is what makes this list, and progressive Christianity as a whole, so challenging. Half-truths can sound quite appealing until you recognize their foundations and implications. In connection with Dr. Kruger’s booklet, The Ten Commandments of Progressive Christianity(Cruciform Quick), listen in as Dr. Kruger diagnoses and critiques a few of these tenets and offer a brief biblical and theological response. Liberal Christianity never really goes away. If the church is going to hold fast to “the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3), we must, in every era, be able to distinguish the true faith from the false.
May 31, 2021
66. Michael Berg: Ok, So You’re Saved… Now What? Vocation as the Setting for Flourishing
Ok, so were saved… Now what? Once we know we are firm in Christ, we ask, along with Luther, what should we do now? We know we don’t perform good works to get saved, or to stay saved, or to improve our salvation, or to impress God… So why do works at all then? We agree with Luther/Wingren saying “God doesn’t need your good works… But your neighbor does.” We are free to work, we are free to return to a pre-fall era where work was first introduced as the original great commission (in the great cultural mandate “The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it…” “And God blessed them. And God said to them, ‘Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion…’”). Join us as we sit down with Dr. Michael Berg, author of “Vocation: The Setting for Human Flourishing”, and have one of the most edifying and compelling nuts-and-bolts discussions on the Christian life as we have ever had where Dr. Berg, so clearly shows us, that vocation is “the setting for human flourishing”. Amen.
May 26, 2021
65. Matthew B. Redmond: The God of the Mundane - Ordinary Life for Ordinary People
When the desire to be on fire for Jesus is a living hell “Is there a God for those who are not changing anything but diapers? Is there a God for those who simply love their spouse and pour out rarely appreciated affection on their children day after day? Is there a God for the mom who spends what feels like God-forsaken days changing diapers and slicing up hot dogs? Is there a God for the man who hammers out a day’s work in obscurity for the love of his wife and kids? Is there a God for just and kind employers? Generous homemakers? Day-laborers who would look at a missions trip to Romania like it was an unimaginable vacation?... The question stretches out into the pew where it steals away into suburban homes and places of work and various schools. It breaks into bedrooms and boardrooms... Is there a God who makes sense of the life lived between the seismic and the extraordinary? Between the missions trips? In between the joy and the pain? Is there a God for the meantime? …I think there is.” There are some great books out there for us Christians: There’s Calvin’s Institutes, Bavinck’s Dogmatics, C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity, Hudson Taylor’s Spiritual Secret, Confessions of St Augustine, Pilgrims Progress… There's James KA Smith, Tish Warren, and NT Wright… All great books and brilliant authors, But, this book, Matthew B. Redmond’s - "The God of the Mundane: Reflections on Ordinary Life for Ordinary People" – (perhaps my favorite book of all time) might be the most important book written the last 40 years. This is the one I want my kids to read, this is the book that I want every Christian I know to read. This book scratches the collective itch most 21st century Christians have. Indeed, it’s a lovely thing when the Gospel really becomes truly good news for all of life and Matthew B. Redmond does just that. Now, give is a listen and let all of God’s people say “amen”!
May 18, 2021
64. Katherine Sonderegger: God’s Internal Fellowship Prior to Time and Creation
The Trinity is not a Mere Concept, Idea or Formula Questions to Dr. Sonderegger 1. What did God’s internal relationship look like as Father, Son and Spirit BEFORE anything was ever created? 2. Does understanding their pre-creation relationship explain why the Son was sent by the Father instead of the Son sending the Father to be incarnate and save us? 3. Explain Eternal generation and Is Eternal generation still happening? 4. Was creation some kind of overflow or byproduct of God’s internal relationship as Father, Son and Spirit? 5. When people believe the gospel they are placed in Christ. Since we are now one with Christ by the Spirit are we now in the Trinity? If we are in the Trinity by grace what does that mean for us? 6. After Christ return or the day of the Lord will the Trinity just get back to business as usual however with the difference only being the Son has a bride now? 7. What do you think it will be like to experience the Trinity forever in glory?
May 12, 2021
63. Ross Hastings: What is Our Motivation & Fuel for Good Works?
Dr. Ross Hastings is a pure and utter delight and a fount of wisdom - a medium for compelling truth for the Christian just trying to make it through the day. Bombarded with temptations from within and without, how do we actually wage war, how do we “by the Spirit put to death the deeds of the flesh”, and is this moral battle itself the telos and goal of the lived-Christian-life? What is participation and what does the Trinity have to do with ethics, making good choices and being a better dad neighbor? Please, please, take some time to listen-in as we sit down with Dr. Hastings and discuss years of his gathered wisdom and nuggets from his book “Theological Ethics: The Moral Life of the Gospel in Contemporary Context” (Zondervan Academic, 2021). Truly one of the best interviews we’ve had – may it be a blessing to all weary and rooted saints as it was to us. WIN A COPY OF THE BOOK - Go to our Twitter or Facebook or Instagram to enter (just share this interview wand tag us)
May 04, 2021
62. Charles Cotherman: Francis Schaeffer & L'Abri, James Houston & Regent College, & Places to Think Christianly
In the late 1960s and on into the next decade, Francis Schaeffer regularly received requests from evangelicals across North America seeking his help to replicate his innovative learning community, L'Abri, within their own contexts. At the same time, an innovative school called Regent College had started up in Vancouver, British Columbia, led by James Houston and offering serious theological education for laypeople. Before long, numerous admirers and attendees of L'Abri and of Regent had launched Christian "study centers" of their own―often based on or near university campuses―from Berkeley to Maryland. Join us as we sit down with Dr. Charles Cotherman, author of “To Think Christianly: A History of L'Abri, Regent College, and the Christian Study Center Movement” (IVP Academic) to discuss the beginning, and lasting legacy, of both L’Abri and Regent College - and how people like C.S. Lewis, F.F. Bruce, R.C. Sproul, Hans Rookmaaker, John Stott & J.I. Packer all were a part of this noble endeavor.
April 28, 2021
61. Michael Svigel: Fact Checking Urban Legends of Church History
We all know Santa Claus didn’t really punch Arius in the face at Nicea (but we still share the memes), but there are a few other urban legends of Church history we need to come corrected on. In this episode Dr. Michael J. Svigel, author of “Urban Legends of Church History: 40 Common Misconceptions” (B&H Academic), takes us on a fact-checking crusade and puts some serious chinks in the armor of pseudo-history. 
April 26, 2021
60. Vincent Bacote: A Thoughtful Conversation on Race, Tension & Finding A Way (Part 2 of 2)
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Vincent Bacote, (interview part 2 of 2) (Associate Professor of Theology, Director of Center for Applied Christian Ethics at Wheaton College) author of “Reckoning with Race and Performing the Good News In Search of a Better Evangelical Theology” (Brill, 2020) – listen-in as we have a thoughtful discussion on race, properly navigating blind-spots and how to view common experiences of minority/majority engagement. We’re not woke, but we’re not asleep – this is a volley where we hit race, tension, evangelicalism, priorities, and seek to attend to the concerns of others by taking the time to check for blind-spots and do the work of getting to know one another. May we have ears to hear. Amen.
April 23, 2021
59. Vincent Bacote: A Thoughtful Conversation on Race, Tension & Finding A Way (1 of 2)
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Vincent Bacote, (the first of two interviews with) (Associate Professor of Theology, Director of Center for Applied Christian Ethics at Wheaton College) author of “Reckoning with Race and Performing the Good News In Search of a Better Evangelical Theology” (Brill, 2020) - listen-in as we have a thoughtful discussion on race, properly navigating blind-spots and how to view common experiences of minority/majority engagement. We’re not woke, but we’re not asleep – this is a volley where we hit race, tension, evangelicalism, priorities, and seek to attend to the concerns of others by taking the time to check for blind-spots and do the work of getting to know one another. May we have ears to hear. Amen.
April 20, 2021
58. Bray & Keane: A Primer on The Book of Common Prayer
An Introduction, Overview & Step-by-Step Guide “The Book of Common Prayer” seems amazing but having grown up Baptist I have no idea what this thing is and how its to be used. So, we wrangled in the editors of IVP’s release of “The 1662 Book of Common Prayer”, Samuel L. Bray & Drew Keane, and asked them everything you need to know on what this thing is all about, how to best use it for personal devotion, etc. Listen in as we ask them: 1. Can you introduce yourselves perhaps sharing your background, involvement with the project of reprinting “The 1662 Book of Common Prayer”? 2. What is the Book of Common Prayer, and what is the 1662 version and what are the other versions? 3. Was it first written to teach folks, or bring unity, or to increase piety or correct errors or did it have some other desired function? 4. How has this book been used through the years? 5. There’s 767 pages in this thing and it’s a bit intimidating. Can you drill down in it for us giving us the forest and some trees? 6. Of the 29 sections in the BCP where does the avg. laymen spend much of his or her time, and is it all prayers? 7. How much is spent alone, with the gathered church, at home with family, for special events, etc.? 8. Can you walk us through a typical day’s reading for say, April 8th or something like that? 9. How can the BCP be used if Im happy with my church and tradition, but think there could be benefit? 10. How best used individually and devotionally?
April 13, 2021
57. Seth Dillon: The Babylon Bee’s Divine Use of Ridicule
Join us as we sit down with Seth Dillon, CEO of the Babylon Bee and co-founder of Not the Bee, asking him: 1. Having been at the helm of the Babylon Bee for awhile now, what has been the most mind-blowing thing that’s been sent to you? Like, has anybody gifted you an autographed Joe Montana football or maybe someone sent you a bag-full of their old fingernail clippings? 2. My fav Babylon Bee post goes all the way back to 2016 and is “Pentecostal Teen Finally Receives Gift Of Faking Tongues”. What post is in the Hall of Fame for you? 3. I have used Babylon Bee posts for real-life profitable dialogue, but its crazy because your guys’ posts are satire… What is it about satire that really is innocent as a dove but wise as a serpent - and often becomes a helpful medium for discussion? 4. How do you view your own labors in running the Babylon Bee in the grand scheme of things? As you engage in the divine use of ridicule? 5. Its insane because The Babylon Bee is swimming in the seas of pushback – be it CNN pr the recent jab from a New York Times article… Can you give us an overview of the climate where its not all whoopee-cushions and arm-pit-farts? 6. If you loose how do we all loose? 7. I was pleased when one day on my feed something called Not the Bee showed up. Not the Bee is your humor-based entertainment site that covers news so absurd it should be satire, but somehow isn't… Man, this one is funny, but actually really bums me out too, how does it not just bum you into despair? 8. Not the Bee has some legit merch – have you ever seen in public someone rocking the Karl Marx with a clown nose shirt? And if you haven’t, when you do, would you buy that guy a beer and giving him a high five, or just say a lil prayer and keep walking? Twitter @Not_the_Bee Twitter @TheBabylonBee Seth Dillon—may he live forever—is the CEO of The Babylon Bee, the world's most trusted, factually accurate news source. He also co-founded Not the Bee with Adam Ford and invests in startups when he's not owning the libs for Jesus. He lives with his wife and two sons in Juno Beach, Florida. (Snopes has rated this bio "mostly false.")
April 08, 2021
56. Jordan Ballor: Being Discipled by Abraham Kuyper in 2021
(Ep. 56) Jordan Ballor: Being Discipled by Abraham Kuyper “Kuyper Must be Understood as an Artist” Few people have read, and know the works, of Abraham Kuyper (1837-1920) better than Dr. Jordan Ballor – editor of the 12 volume series: “Abraham Kuyper Collected Works in Public Theology from” (Lexham Press). We might say that, though removed by over 100 years, Abraham Kuyper has discipled Jordan Ballor. Having sat down and read-through (and prayed-through, preached-through, written-through and applied) Kuyper as much as Dr. Ballor has, he is able to see what Kuyper majored on, assumed, put consistent weight in, what he valued as highest priority, and even read between the lines deducing what sort of man Kuyper was. Indeed, the Spirit has been pleased to use Abraham Kuyper for many of us in seeing how, and working out the implications of the fact that “There is not a square inch in the whole domain of our human existence over which Christ, who is Sovereign over all, does not cry, Mine!” Join us as we sit down with Dr. Ballor asking him: 1. You’ve been working on this project for years now, you are ultra-familiar with Kuyper now, you might even say that you have been discipled by the man. That said, where have you personally gleaned the most from reading the thousands of pages of Kuyper? 2. In your spending so so much time with Kuyper where have you deduced what subjects or doctrines, or exhortations are most important to him? 3. Where have you seen his personality come through in reading in between the lines in the way he carries himself on paper, and the pulpit, and the political floor? If you two were to go grab a beer today after this interview how did you think that session would unfold as far as tone and topic and vibe? 4. What have you noticed is the spiritual and practical trend that happens to people as the Lord is pleased to use Kuyper to shape them? 5. Where do we see Kuyper in this book (“On Business & Economics”) speaking plain truth in the domains of business and economics that might mark the reader? 6. Kenneth Barnes says “Indeed, in the metanarrative of creation, fall, redemption, and consummation that pervades these writings, Kuyper provides a very helpful framework for developing a theology of business and economics.”... With that in mind, what was Kuyper’s thesis, or his chief program, when it comes to economics, money, wealth-accumulation and so-on as a whole…? 7. If we were to hand Kuyper a mic today in just a general context and say “give us the big picture – give us the forest” what do you think he would say? 8. From where did you gather all the fodder that comprise these books and on what basis do you select them, and what hath the Heidelberg Catechism to do with commerce? 9. Will the laymen glean from these writings or is it reserved for statemen ad business owners?
April 06, 2021
55. Stephen J. Nichols: A Primer on J. Gresham Machen
On a Sunday afternoon in 1935, J. Gresham Machen stepped into a broadcast booth at WIP Radio in Philadelphia and began something no one had tried before: teaching Reformed theology over the radio. In the vein of C.S. Lewis’s landmark “Mere Christianity” talks, Machen’s addresses are a crystal-clear articulation of the basics of the Christian faith, unfolding into an exceptional and persuasive explanation of Reformed theology. Things Unseen is both an accessible systematic theology, and a masterclass in evangelistic apologetics. Introduced by Timothy J. Keller, Foreword by Sinclair B. Ferguson, Historical Preface by Stephen J. Nichols, Afterword by Richard B. Gaffin, Jr. Join us as we sit down with Dr. Nichols and get a glimpse into the life, context, and work of J. Gresham Machen.
March 31, 2021
54. Danny Hyde: A Primer on the Belgic Confession That's Not Boring (Part 1 of 3 on the Three Forms of Unity)
Part 1 of our 3-part-series where Danny Hyde gives us a primer on each of the 3 documents that comprise the Three Forms of Unity. Today Danny Hyde takes us to school on the gloriousness that is the Belgic Confession. Listen in as we ask discuss: 1. Can you give us a quick intro on what this thing is and why it should matter to a busy mom in 2021?  2. What groups or denominations use the Belgic Confession? 3. How does one use the Belgic Confession in their daily lives and what would a life marked by its usage look like? 4. How does the Belgic Confession compare with the Westminster Confession, and why didn’t the Westminster divines just use the Belgic, and why do North Americans chiefly use the Westminster over the Belgic? 5. Do you have, or have you ever met someone who has, any Belgic Confession tattoos? 6. Weren’t their Confessions before the Belgic, if so, what was wrong with those ones? Was author Guido de Bres just reinventing the wheel? 7. What was the desired function of the Belgic Confession: was it apologetic, was it to highlight differences, was it to notate conformity or specific truths? etc. 8. Article 1 says “We all believe with the heart, and confess with the mouth, that there is one only simple and spiritual Being, which we call God; and that he is eternal, incomprehensible, invisible, immutable, infinite, almighty, perfectly wise, just, good, and the overflowing fountain of all good.”  When it says “We believe…” Who is Guido de Bres, the author, speaking for when says “we”? Was he sanctioned or commissioned, or did he just rise to the occasion? 9. When did it get officially adopted and sanctioned to be used beyond just the initial purpose? 10. The Belgic is broken into 37 "articles” what’s an article? If we were to print this thing out, about how many pages would it be? 11. What is the tone, the heart and vibe of the Belgic Confession? 12. How has the Belgic Confession been used throughout history? How can it best be used now? And are there any versions that you suggest? 13. Where is it dated or a product of its time? And what are we to make of the Belgic Confession's usage of a 1 John text that is not in any modern translations (and is probably not part of the autograph). that is, how does one subscribe with issues with the proof texts? 14. Must we memorize the Belgic Confession? Why not Proverbs or the Gospels before? 15. Where is the Belgic Confession at its best?
March 30, 2021
53. Guy Waters: A Covenant Theology Primer
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Guy Waters, contributor and co-editor of Covenant Theology: Biblical, Theological, and Historical Perspectives (Crossway, 2020), and discuss Covenant Theology asking: Is the principal of Covenant Theology something that a Bible reader could easily, or difficultly, glean from actively engaging their Bibles apart from secondary sources? How do we see Covenant Theology in seed form amongst the Church prior to Augustine? In your own life, as you are commuting to work, BBQing with friends, looking around at this world and thinking about your creator – in what ways has Covenant Theology enriched your day to day as you encounter the hopes and fears of all the world? Which came first: the covenant with the Son to dwell with his church, or the covenant with the Son to redeem lost sinners? If God’s eternity means that he is outside of time (not just before time), do reformed people place too much emphasis on his eternal past?
March 24, 2021
52. Craig Keener: How to be Biblically Charismatic
Dr. Craig Keener is a world-renowned Biblical scholar, and so, naturally, he believes the Bible, and takes seriously the command, when it says “Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.” Listen in as we ask Dr. Keener (in connection with his book “Gift and Giver: The Holy Spirit for Today” Baker Academic) what the Biblical warrant to believe that Spiritual Gifts continue (and have not ceased as the post-enlightenment West would have us believe) and then how to actually operate in them without being a heretic.
March 12, 2021
51. T. Desmond Alexander: Nuanced Questions on the Garden, Heaven & the Telos of Humanity
Join us as we sit down and pick the brain of the gracious T. Desmond Alexander in connection with his book "From Eden to the New Jerusalem: An Introduction to Biblical Theology" (Kregel Academic & Professional). Questions include: Are we able to answer the question “What is the chief end of God? And what is the role of       creation in that end?” What is meant by a “temple-city”? and can we have any idea of what life on earth would have       looked like if Adam and Eve didn’t rebel? That is, what would I see if I drove through a suburb of a temple-city? In hearing our vocation was to be PRIESTLY and ROYAL, can you give a snapshot of what a day in       the life of an image bearer pre-fall might have looked like? Would it include soccer moms and teenagers who love playing video games? Do we know what was the NATURE and FREQUENCY of God’s presence with Adam and Eve? I ask that because, it seems that God wasn’t always physically with them… In the book you said “There is something of value in seeing the big picture, for it frequently enables us to appreciate the details more clearly.” What aspects of the big picture would you suggest us to make our focal points?  What need we always remember that informs our lived-lives? In the book you said “Given the complexity of the Bible as a literary anthology, outlining its meta-story is not easy.” I fully agree with this, and for that reason I must confess it’s a lil disturbing… That is, I would have never seen some of these things unless someone like you or Vos, or Schreiner or, Beale, Goldsworthy showed me... granted I now see all over, I cant help but thinking that good Biblical Theology, and tracing themes and types and allegory, is at worst Christian-Gnosticism and at best reserved for the academic elite – either way, those that have found the hermeneutical keys to unlock scripture… Have thoughts like this ever crossed your mind? I feel like most people think the purpose of life is to "share the Gospel", to distinguish between law and Gospel, to see Jesus in the Old Testament (and those are all good things that I myself do), HOWEVER, it seems that, and I don’t know how to say this that wont come off ungrateful, so please       don’t hear what I'm not saying, but, it seems that Jesus came on the seen in his saving capacity starting with the fall and then once his saving is accomplished in the New Jerusalem, its back to the original goal – so, all that do say, do we overemphasize the role of Jesus as the BIG PICTURE and       the ultimate telos? Is the New Jerusalem about the trinity being with humanity or is it about the atoning work of Jesus?
March 02, 2021
50. Mitch Chase: Typology, Allegory and Actually Being Excited About Reading the Bible
A Glorious Discussion on How to Joyously Read the Old Testament I think this is one of the most practical and applicable interviews we’ve had yet. “Joy is the word that comes to mind when I reflect on writing about typology and allegory” is how Dr. Mitchel Chase opens up his book “40 Questions About Typology and Allegory” (Kregel Academic). Listen as we sit down with Dr. Chase and discuss a way we can read the Bible the way it was intended to be read – to be read in such a way that results in, as we echo what Cleopas said on the road to Emmaus “Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?”
February 24, 2021
49. Winfield Bevins: Young, Restless, and Anglican - Theology in Motion
Join us as we sit down with Winfield Bevins, author of "Simply Anglican: An Ancient Faith for Today's World" (Anglican Compass, 2020), asking him why so many Christians are trading their “Jonathan Edwards is my homeboy” shirt for icons of Chrysostom and prayer books, and find out what itch Anglicanism and liturgy scratch that the new-Calvinism doesn’t.
February 22, 2021
48. John Goldingay: How Should a Busy Mom Read Genesis?
Listen in as I try to interview John Goldingay on Genesis.
February 18, 2021
47. Pieter Vos: Virtue Ethics, Theology & Our Desire for the Good Life
What are “Ethics”? What is the need for Ethics when we have Theology? What do ethics have to do with my normal life? How can I become the person I want to be? How can I try to live like Jesus and Hudson Taylor when they were at another level? How can I be a better human when Im depraved? All these, and more: listen in as we have a discussion with Dr. Pieter Vos around his new book “Longing for the Good Life: Virtue Ethics after Protestantism”.
February 17, 2021
46. Tish Harrison Warren: Real Talk on Prayer in Everyday Life
There is a reason Tish Harrison Warren is widely received amongst us rank-and-file saints. She’s a Christian, she’s a human with hopes, fears and doubts. It seems many authors and teachers write and speak to the Christian’s normal lived-life by, unfortunately, responding to questions that nobody is really asking. But then there is Tish Harrison Warren. Here she invites us into her own journey of ordinary-grief where, along the way, she speaks and observes as one of us. Listen in as we discuss everyday life prayer in the context of the grief and sorrow of: stubbed toes, daughters left out at school, unfulfilled desires, miscarriages, depleting health (and even that sort-of lingering sorrow that is like a heavy fog, where your just kinda' bummed and you don’t know why), and turnover ways we can endure the mystery of suffering - in light of the glorious resurrection of our elder brother Jesus, because, as Tish says, "I think the Resurrection is the really big deal of the universe." The purveyor of common grace that Tish is, here are some shot from the hip suggestions of glory for your edification, reading, listening, & eating/drinking pleasure: Damien Jurado Music Praxis Coffee in Austin Anglican Compass Porters Gate music Rabbit Room Pelican Project Jeremy Tisby's book - How to Fight Racism: Courageous Christianity and the Journey Toward Racial Justice Esau McCaulley's book - Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope Malcolm Quilt poetry Scott Cairns poetry Gerard Manley Hopkins poetry Wendell Berry's Sabbath Poems "Here's a good combination: get a spicy red wine, have it with dark chocolate and mangoes. In that order. It's amazing." "The glory of God is man fully alive.” - Irenaeus of Lyons
February 15, 2021
45. Cornelis van der Kooi: If Theology is Only Academic Throw it in the Trash
“Dogmatics is far from an abstract business but is connected by a thousand and one threads to everyday life.” - Cornelis van der Kooi Is it weird to anybody else that Theology often seems like a gentleman’s club, a hobby for academics and has really very very little to say about the rest of us as we try to “work out [our] salvation”? Why must high-truth be placed so high so that I need astronomical training to get there? Why are our seminary professors content with asking about (in Latin, of course) if God can make a martini so large that He cant drink it, instead of asking things like: “I know God loves me, but does He like me?”, “What does the Gospel have to do with the fact that I hate how I’m getting fat as I’m getting older?”, “How should my faith inform my life as I’m driving my kids to baseball practice?”, “Does God love a backyard BBQ as much as I do?”, etc. I’m not saying that Cornelis van der Kooi and Gijsbert van der Brink answer these questions directly in their “Christian Dogmatics: An Introduction” (Eerdmans 2017), but they sure do give us the tools we need to get there. This is, hands down, the best Systematic Theology I have ever read. Please do buy a copy as soon as you have a chance, and until then, listen in as we sit down with Dr. van der Kooi and discuss a few aspects of the Christian life that many of us face in 2021.
February 09, 2021
44. Julie Canlis: A Theology of the Ordinary
"Unless we rest in God's personalizing of us, we will try and 'personalize' our faith through our own intensity and emotions. Often, the 'personalness' of the gospel is secured through second-rate means, such as gratitude for salvation, or an individual sense of God's presence, or a missional call. These are wonderful things, but they are false securities. On the contrary, the only thing that can guarantee the personal nature of our faith is God's own personhood… Framing our whole existence around the personalness of God-as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit- is what ensures that our "spirituality" (or "piety") remains personal." - Julie Canlis "In an era of 'doing' - of activism, of measurable ministry - "being" can be one's personal hell. It is the hard task of laying tasks aside in order to contemplate and receive the words 'This is my beloved SOn, in whom I am well pleased' (Matt. 3:17). Only when we hear that word can our tasks have any meaning at all. Spiritual formation is all about entering this Father-Son relationship, about living out the truth of our adoption. It is formation as relation." - Julie Canlis Join us as we sit down with Dr. Julie Canlis and discuss ordinary life for ordinary Christians.
February 04, 2021
43. Paul Putz: A Theology of Sports & the Super Bowl
"J. Gresham Machen was one of many to fall under the spell of football. 'When I see a vacant field on one of these autumn days,' Machen wrote to a friend while in Europe in 1905, 'my mind is filled with wonder at this benighted people which does not seem to hear the voice of nature when she commands every human being to play football or watch it being played.'” Join us we sit down with Dr. Paul Putz (Assistant Director of the Faith & Sports Institute at Truett Seminary) and discuss the intersection of sports & Christianity asking questions like: Where do sports fit in the created order? Or do they belong to the fall? If God is glorified by a good catch, then is he disappointed in a botched field goal? Can you give us a brief survey of Christian America’s view on the game of football and where we are today? Would God rather I watch a football game or evangelize? What is it about sports - why do we humans love them so much… And not just a lil, but a lot: we’re talking grown men painting their faces, standing shirtless in the snow drinking buying $20 beers, and having the time of their lives… And they’re not even playing – their watching someone else play!!!!! If the Bucs win, is it because Tom Brady can do “all things through Christ who strengthens him”? What’s the most Christian thing I can do this Sunday as I'm eating slow-cooked-pineapple-infused lil-smokies drizzled with nacho-cheese - and watching the football game with my family? LINKS: “‘God Disguised as Michael Jordan’ (and My Evolving View of Sports)” “Football and the Political Act of Prayer” “God and the Gridiron Game America's obsession with football is nearly as old as the game itself.”
February 01, 2021
42. Chad Bird: You’re Still the Same Sinner You Were a Year Ago (Nothing has Changed... But Neither Has Jesus)
“People have this weird and irrational tendency to begin a new year with the assumption that things will truly be new during the next twelve months, that calendar changes equal humanity changes. I admit, quite sheepishly, that I sometimes share this weird notion... You think, My commitment to the straight and narrow is strong’ but your heart tells a far different and darker story.” - Chad Bird Happy New Year! Bring your New Year's Resolutions, and desires for growth, and listen in as we sit with the golden-penned, and down-to-earth, Chad Bird as we discuss resolutions, failed resolutions, spiritual disciplines, sanctification, law and gospel, and the Gospel. Read Chad Bird's latest Blog Post/Note to Self: You Are Not Enough and Other (Un)welcome Truths for the New Year Listen to Chad Bird's Podcast: 40 Minutes in the Old Testament Listen/Read Along to the Unveiling Mercy Daily Podcast Join The Laymen's Lounge listeners and read Chad Bird's Unveiling Mercy: 365 Daily Devotions Based on Insights from Old Testament Hebrew each day of 2021
December 31, 2020
Tim Challies: Belonging to the Global Christian Family - A Few Relics, Tokens & Anecdotes
Through thirty-three objects, Tim Challies explores the history of what God is accomplishing in this world, whether through princes or peasants, triumph or trial and (notating his findings in a book and DVD set). Each object offers a tangible link between the present and the past, between the Christians of the 21st century and those who lived and died in centuries past. Join us as we sit down with Tim and discuss some of his comings and goings. You can watch a free episode of “Epic” here: “Epic Episode 8: India” NOTE: Since this recording, our brother Tim Challies lost his beloved son Nick, please do pray for the entire Challies family.
December 26, 2020
J.D. Greear: Searching for Christmas
Join us as we sit down with J.D. Greear and discuss the implications of Christmas and how the “hopes and fears of all the years are met in” Jesus.
December 21, 2020
Tom Schreiner: A Christmas Survey of Luke 1:1 - 2:21
We had the privilege of sitting down with Dr. Tom Schreiner to discuss the first couple chapters of Luke - asking how best to make sense of it all and have our calloused hearts hear the story afresh. Join us as we take a Christmas stroll through advent portions of Luke with the sweetheart of sweethearts the good Dr. Tom Schreiner
December 17, 2020
Michael Bird: The Gospel in all Loci of Systematic Theology
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Bird and discuss the second edition of his Systematic Theology and what needs he saw that would cause him to take the time to offer the world yet another Systematic Theology. “I have generally believed that some theologians should be routinely slapped in the face with a soggy fish in order to try to smack some exegetical sense into them. You can only watch someone struggling to push a round peg into a square hole for so long before you finally snatch the peg from them and say, “Just give it here; I’ll do it for you.” - Michael Bird
December 14, 2020
Adam English: Historical Truth on Santa Claus/St. Nicholas of Myra, The Red Suit & Punching Heretics
The life and trials of Nicholas of Myra the Saint who would be Santa Claus. Listen in as we sit down with Dr. Adam English and trace the evolution of Saint Nicholas of Myra, a 4th century Bishop (in modern-day Turkey), to who would become everyone’s favorite jolly toy yielding fat man: Santa Claus. Did he punch Arius? What's the deal with the red suite? Stockings and fireplaces? Saving prostitutes and boiling children? The North Pole? And a bunch more separating fact from fiction.
December 09, 2020
Andrew Abernethy: Biblical Expectations on What the Messiah Would Actually Do?
Listen as we sit down with Dr. Andrew Abernethy to discuss what the Old Testament expected of the coming Messiah and to what end? A conquering King? Forgiveness of sins? Flourishing? Justice? A suffering Servant? God Himself? Shalom? Fiscal Security?...
December 07, 2020
Greg Lanier: Why Jesus was Born of a Virgin & Other Incarnation Questions
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Greg Lanier and discuss all things incarnation, asking questions like: 1. Why did the Messiah need to be born of a virgin so meek and mild? 2. Why did the Messiah need to be fully God and fully man? 3. What does it mean that Mary was “overshadowed” by the Spirit? 4. Is Mary to be called the “mother of God”? 5. In the humanity of Jesus He was like us in every way, but can we really say that since we have original sin and He didn’t? 6. What does the title “Son of God” mean? 7. Was Jesus the “son of God” before the incarnation? 8. What does “only begotten son” mean? 9. How did Jesus view his own incarnation? 10. What role does each member of the Trinity play in the incarnation?
December 03, 2020
Richard Mouw: Christmas Carols as a Vehicle for Truth, Joy & Human Longing
Join us as we talk all things Christmas carols with the ever-gracious and holistic Richard Mouw. Dr. Mouw says, “I love Christmas carols, and I even find it inspiring to hear them sung in shopping malls. Some lines in particular tempt me to stop in my tracks. When, surrounded by bustling crowds, I hear that “the hopes and fears of all the years are met in thee tonight,” I want to pause and try to imagine the ways in which the coming of Christ speaks to the deepest yearnings of the people.”
December 01, 2020
Gordon Nickel: The Quran with Christian Commentary
Join us as we sit down with leading Islam and Quran scholar Dr. Gordon D. Nickel and ask questions in connection with his recent book, “The Quran with Christian Commentary: A Guide to Understanding the Scripture of Islam”: - If one were to read the Quran with a complete open-mind, and never heard of Islam or Christianity before, what would the main takeaways be as the big picture? - What are the issues that even Muslims themselves must concede as far as the Quran perhaps being in error or falsification or a-historical? - What sort of things should we look for when reading the Quran when we read with the desire to have constructive conversations with Muslims from the source? - Have you ever encountered anyone who ended up fully rejection or seriously begin to question their belief in the Quran? - What claims does the Quran make about itself and what claims do others make about it? - What do the rank and file Muslims think about the Quran? What are their take aways when read it?
November 25, 2020
Robert McKenzie: Historical Truth on Pilgrims, Thanksgiving &The Mayflower
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Robert Tracy McKenzie as he helps separate fact from fiction on Pilgrims, the Mayflower and Thanksgiving. Dr. McKenzie is the author of “The First Thanksgiving What the Real Story Tells Us About Loving God and Learning from History” (IVP Academic 2013), and we ask him: 1. Any notable people in that band, or did they leave anything behind as far as books or dogma that we moderns might have caught wind of? 2. Why do we love the drama of finding out history is embellished and uncovering misconceptions…? Like, realizing the Pilgrims didn’t actually have little buckles on their somber black shoes? 3. Who were these people, where did they come from and why? 4. Where does our historical info for the pilgrims come? 5. If there wasn’t a holiday after these guys what would be compelling about them? 6. Is it anathema to put up Christmas decorations prior to Thanksgiving? 7. What can we keep in our minds about these pilgrims and how can we benefit beyond a couple deviled eggs and a Macys Day Parade?
November 23, 2020
J.V. Fesko: Creeds, Confessions and Cage-Stagers
Join us we sit down with J.V. Fesko and ask him, in connection with his new book “The Need for Creeds Today: Confessional Faith in a Faithless Age”: - In what ways are some Confessional Christians like grouchy territorial local surfers? - Is the Presbyterian Westminster Confession more bonafide and cooler than the Baptist 1689 Confession? - Are Baptists truly “Reformed” - What do you say to “No Creed but the Bible”? - Why do some Reformed Confessional Christians come off a lil’ on the smug side, almost like an acceptable cage-stage vibe?  - Can I pick and choose from the various confessions/catechisms, or need I only choose one? - What are the benefits of the confessions/catechisms beyond mere mental assent to the vital doctrinal truths for, say things like, low self-esteem, listening to music (non-“Christian”), weekend beach trips, etc.? - If you’re a person who is in the Word, engaging in reading and Bible study, won’t they naturally end up where the authors of the confessions end up? - Why have confessions largely fallen into disuse? And where are we seeing it taking its toll on us? - Where do we see the confessions at their best? - Doctrinal issues are timeless and there is a clear need for those to be set in stone (as they are in the confessions), however, we are “Reformed and always reforming”, as such, shouldn’t we be updating them to speak to issues and questions that we face today? - It seems the Westminster Standards have heavier rotation than that of the 3 forms of unity why is that?
November 20, 2020
Duvall & Hays: God's Relational Presence is the Cohesive Center of Biblical Theology
What is the focus of the Bible? Heaven? Kingdom? Covenant? Justification? Glory to God? Join us as we sit down with J. Scott Duvall and J. Daniel Hays as we discuss the unity of the whole Bible. Listen as they speak to God's desire to be with his people is a thread running from Genesis through Revelation. Duvall and Hays make the case that God's relational presence is central to the Bible's grand narrative. It is the cohesive center that drives the whole biblical story and ties together other important biblical themes, such as covenant, kingdom, glory, and salvation history.
November 16, 2020
Craig Bartholomew: An Invitation for Christians & Humans to Flourish
Apart from the doctrine of God, no doctrine is as comprehensive as that of creation. Join us as we sit down with the Rev. Dr. Craig Bartholomew as we discuss creation and how it is woven throughout the entire fabric of Christian theology. It goes to the deepest roots of reality and leaves no area of life untouched. Across the centuries, however, the doctrine of creation has often been eclipsed or threatened by various forms of gnosticism. Yet if Christians are to rise to current challenges related to public theology and ethics, we must regain a robust, biblical doctrine of creation. “Who would have thought that dropping your kids off at school is a moment of glory?” -Craig Bartholomew
November 11, 2020
Kristyn Getty: Sanctifying the Night, Songs & Family Worship
Join us as we sit down with Kristyn Getty and discuss “Evensong’ – Hymns and Lullabies at the close of day, and how we too can, as Getty puts it, “be making worship part of the fabric of life in general” for our families, especially our children. Kristyn says “A good hymn is curating wonderful ideas about the Lord, distilling great truths in memorable lines in beautiful ways and catchy melodies, and so it invites questions. Its starts conversations…” “’O for a thousand tongues to sing’” what does that mean – ‘a thousand tongues’? It gives that sense of: the praise we desire to bring the Lord is so great but I just have one tiny little mouth, but you bring your mouth, and I'll bring mine, and one day were all going to be together with angels and the believers that went before us from all over the world and we’re going to have thousands and thousands and thousands of voices singing”
November 05, 2020
Carl Trueman: Here's Why Martin Luther is the People's Theologian
Join us as we sit down with Dr. Carl Trueman and discuss Martin Luther on the Christian Life, the Cross and Freedom.
October 31, 2020
Nelson Kloosterman: Herman Bavinck's Application of the Imago Dei to All of Life
The Dogmatics and Ethics of Herman Bavinck applied to daily life. Herman Bavinck gave much thought to Dogmatics, ethics, and being a human created in the image of God, or “imago Dei” – join us as we sit down with Dr. Nelson Kloosterman, who has played a part in the translation of many modern Bavinck works we read, and ask: What is the difference between ethics and Dogmatics? If we were to ask Bavinck “What does it mean to be human?” what would his response be? What are the implications of being created in the image of God for a non-Christian and what are the implications of being created in the image of God as a Christian? Can you speak to the Biblical referents of the term “imago Dei”? Can you touch on the unfolding, developmental character of the imago Dei? If you and Bavinck were to come over to Hawaii, and sip on a mat tai with me, and have a profitable discussion - what do you think he would exhort us to in this our cultural moment?
October 30, 2020
Mike Wagenman: Appropriating Abraham Kuyper for 2020
Join us as we sit down with Mike Wagenman to discuss one of the most important theologians of the last 300 years: Abraham Kuyper. Kuyper still speaks powerfully to our day. The battle he was  fighting to confess the Lordship of Jesus over all of life and the  public truth of the gospel in the face of the powerful currents of  modern humanism that sought to privatize the Christian faith is as  important to the church today as then, if not more important! Michael  Wagenman has given us a great popular introduction to Kuyper’s thought  on the mission of the church in the public square set in his original  context but with helpful reflection on its contemporary significance.
October 29, 2020
Michael Horton: Strange Notions on Justification Diagnosed - & Remedies for Our Heresies
Today we sit down with Michael Horton and ask him to ask him a thousand questions about justification. The doctrine of justification stands at the center of our systematic reflection on the meaning of salvation as well as our piety, mission, and life together. In his two-volume work on the doctrine of justification, Michael Horton seeks not simply to repeat noble doctrinal formulas and traditional proof texts, but to encounter the remarkable biblical justification texts in conversation with the provocative proposals that, despite a wide range of differences, have reignited the contemporary debates around justification.
October 28, 2020
Jordan Cooper: The Proper Distinction Between Law and Gospel
"Rightly Distinguishing the Law and Gospel is the Most Difficult & Highest art of Christians" - CFW Walther Today we sit down with Dr. Jordan Cooper and discuss the proper distinction between the law and the Gospel - as well as CFW Walther's contribution to the subject. 
October 27, 2020
Matthew Barrett: Help! The Old Testament is Bizarre
In this episode we sit down for an interview with Dr Matthew Barrett to learn how to read the Bible as one story (and not just a bunch of bizarre un-related scenes) and how Jesus Himself read the Scriptures (as all pointing to Him). 
October 26, 2020
Danny Olinger: A Beginner’s Guide to Geerhardus Vos
Join us as we interview Danny Olinger, author of the definitive Geerhardus Vos biography. We explore Vos’ personal life, his theology, and we learn of Vos the poet and the sad reality of how he died in obscurity with less than 10 people at his funeral, but how his work has become the go-to for doing proper Biblical Theology and seeing the big picture of the story of God unfold.
October 25, 2020
N.T. Wright: How Christianity Makes Sense of the World (And C.S. Lewis, Demons, Lament, etc.)
An Interview with N.T. Wright on C.S. Lewis, Demons, Lament and More. Join us as we sit down with N.T. Wright to discuss, in connection with his new book “Broken Signposts: How Christianity Makes Sense of the World”, things like: 1. How do things like Justice, Beauty, Freedom, etc., in all their fleetingness, make sense of this world and point towards Jesus? 2. C.S. Lewis and the “moral argument” for God 3. Should we share the Gospel with a family who are minding their own business at the beach and having a great time? 4. It seems every third person in the NT was demon possessed, it was a part of daily reality for many… How come we don’t see this anymore? 5. What does it mean to be “filled with the Spirit”, and how do I get filled? 6. If you had one message to share with the world – with your own grandchildren, what would that message be?
October 20, 2020
Leopoldo Sánchez: Did Jesus Need the Spirit? Jesus' Life in the Spirit and How We Share In that Life
Paul says we must walk by the Spirit - did Jesus walk by the Spirit? When we walk by the Spirit are we functioning like Christ? Was Jesus Obedient to the Father Through the Spirit? Dr. Leopoldo Sanchez articulates Jesus' life in the Spirit and what this means for us who desire to live like Jesus.
October 19, 2020
Jeffrey Niehaus: Talking Snakes? Magical Trees? “We can’t even touch it!”, & Other Eden Q&As
Join us as we pick the brain of Old Testament scholar Jeffrey Niehaus on Genesis 3:1-3 (and more): “Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” In this episode we discuss: - What was the nature and location of the garden in Eden? - Why did God want to plant a garden in the first place? - What’s the deal these trees that God has placed in the garden? - Why would God have even put a tree in there for them specifically to not eat? - Why the punishment of death if they ate the fruit? - Who, and what is this, “serpent” thing, and how did it get in God’s good creation? - In what ways would their eyes have been opened? - What’s so bad about “Being like God knowing good and evil”? And what would that look like? - At what point did Eve actually sin? -Did Eve add to God’s prohibition by saying “neither shall you touch it”?
October 03, 2020
R. Scott Clark: A Proper Expectation of the Christian Life
Its been said that for fish that living under water, with all they’ve ever known as underwater living, and all the other fish around them also only knowing underwater living, that these fish might incorrectly assume that water is all there is. It causes us to ask: Are modern 2020 Evangelical Christians like these fish? Are we swimming in muddled waters of a distinctly North American Christianity that is detached and has little or no continuity with what Christianity has looked like the last 2000 years? Are the nuts and bolts, and the emphasis of, modern evangelical Christianity actually distinctly American (and not in a good way like baseball and apple pie)? Is there a better, more Christ-centered and historical, way that we have forgotten (or are yet to encounter)? Join us as we sit down with Dr. R. Scott Clark as we discuss these things and more as they are derived, and diagnosed, from his eye opening book “Recovering the Reformed Confession: Our Theology, Piety, and Practice” (P&R Publishing) Follow Dr. Clarks Website/Blog: The Heidelblog here Follow Dr. Clarks Podcast: The Heidelcast here Follow Dr. Clarks/Westminster Seminary’s Podcast: Office Hours here And, don’t let us loose sight of our past and grab a copy of Crossway’s “ESV Bible with Creeds and Confessions” (see here) that features: 13 historic creeds and confessions placed in the back, including the Apostles Creed (ca. 200–400), the Nicene Creed (325), the Athanasian      Creed (381), the Chalcedonian Definition (451), the Augsburg Confession (1530), the Belgic Confession (1561), the Articles of Religion (1563), the      Canons of Dort (1618–19), the Westminster Confession (1646), the London Baptist Confession (1689), the Heidelberg Catechism (1563), the      Westminster Larger Catechism (1647), and the Westminster Shorter Catechism (1647) Introductions to each of the 13 creeds and confessions written by historian Chad Van Dixhoorn
September 16, 2020
56 Million People Have Watched “The Chosen” TV Series: Why? A Chat with Associate Producer Justen Overlander
The Chosen, a TV series about the life of Jesus, has had nearly 56 million views. Join us as we sit down with The Chosen Associate Producer Justen Overlander as we ask what the show is all about and why 56 million people (and counting) have watched it. Learn more here  Follow The Chosen on Facebook here Follow Justen Overlander on Facebook here  Watch a preview here Watch episode 1 here 
September 16, 2020
James Eglinton: A Discussion on "Herman Bavinck A Critical Biography"
"An Orthodox Life in a Changing World" indeed. Dr. James Eglinton joins us to discuss the life of Herman Bavinck in connection with his forthcoming "Bavinck: A Critical Biography" (Baker Academic). Dutch Calvinist theologian and polymath Herman Bavinck, a significant voice in the development of Protestant theology, remains relevant many years after his death. His four-volume "Reformed Dogmatics" is one of the most important theological works of the twentieth century. James Eglinton is widely considered to be at the forefront of contemporary interest in Bavinck's life and thought. After spending considerable time in the Netherlands researching Bavinck, Eglinton brings to light a wealth of new insights and previously unpublished documents to offer a definitive biography of this renowned Reformed thinker. The book follows the course of Bavinck's life in a period of dramatic social change, identifying him as an orthodox Calvinist challenged with finding his feet in late modern culture. Based on extensive archival research, this critical biography presents numerous significant and previously ignored or unknown aspects of Bavinck's person and life story. Join us as we discuss subjects ranging from the Bavinck folk-history that resulted in the so called “two Bavinck's hypothesis”, his unrequited love, and his single preached sermon - all the way to the ever important question of “If Bavinck was your uncle, and he came the family Christmas party, what sort of vibe would you expect from Uncle Herman?” For more on Dr. James Eglinton visit: Dr. Eglinton's Blog Dr. Eglinton's Facebook page For more on the book visit: Baker Amazon Be sure to follow Instagram and/or Facebook page where one person will have a chance to win, in partnership with the good people at Baker Academic, a Bavinck book bundle, that will include copies of:  "Herman Bavinck: A Critical Biography" (before it's out!) Bavinck's "Reformed Ethics Vol 1" Bavinck's "Reformed Dogmatics Vol 1" And 4 others
September 03, 2020
Robert Covolo: Fashion Theology
"There is not a square inch in the whole domain of our human existence over which Christ, who is Sovereign over all, does not cry, Mine!” - Abraham Kuyper What hath Jesus to do with fashion? What hath Paris to do with Jerusalem?Well, if every square inch of this world belongs to the Lord, then much! Listen in as we interview Dr. Robert Covolo (PhD, Free University Amsterdam/Fuller Seminary) on the place of fashion in Christianity. Dr. Covolo has just blessed Christians across the globe, and centuries (yes, we just said that), by releasing his groundbreaking "Fashion Theology" (Baylor University Press, 2020), the importance of this book simply can't be overstated as a glaring hole has finally been filled. Topics like fashion might not be the preferred subject of the old guard crammed in the ivory towers, but for the normal Christians of the world, each in their own vocations and spheres, a topic like fashion is of the utmost importance. Christians are concerned, and often utterly lost, as to the intersection of King Jesus and this wonderful/horrible thing called fashion (as well as with the minivan, date night, the new Taylor Swift album, white teeth, backyard BBQs, eczema, data-entry, isolation, restless hearts, etc.) - in “Fashion Theology” Dr Covolo has scratched a massive Theological and practical itch. Dr. Covolo has done the Christian Church a great favor, as well as set a precedent, in vigorously researching and covering what is one of many, often-overlooked, subjects that plays no small significance in our lived everyday normal lives. We need our scholars to, like Covolo does in "Fashion Theology", take every prevailing idea, every dominant cultural artifact, and every core human longing of our day captive - bringing them to be seen in the light of the Gospel. In this podcast Dr. Covolo speaks to the often default judgement that fashion is bad, only bad, and just a gateway sin to lust, opulence, and false identites. While these realities are sometimes a reality, there is yet a place – a God given and God honoring place, for fashion and our daily dress in the “theater of God’s glory”. Semper reformanda indeed - thank you brother Covolo. WE'RE GIVING AWAY A COPY OF "FASHION THEOLOGY"!!!! To enter: Share this podcast on your social media page Tag @TheLaymensLounge and @RobertCovolo and someone you think would appreciate the fashion and theology discussion Winner announced on our Instagram and Facebook in 7 days (Fri September 4)
August 29, 2020
Dr. Jack Deere (Part 1): A Conversation With A Healer (Yes, You Read That Right)
Dr. Jack Deere is a healer. By the power of the Spirit, and for the glory of the living and active God, he has healed many. He isn't insane, isn't a faker, doesnt want your money, he's not on TV and doesn't wear a purple suit... He's been a pastor for decades, speaks Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic/German, taught Seminary for a decade, and probably knows all your arguments against the fact that the gifts of the Spirit are still for today better than you (because he knows the Bible and doesn't dismiss teachings from the Word because weirdos and fakers often twist and distort it for their gain). Join us for part 1 of our 2 conversations with Jack Deere and listen while we discuss common objections to the miraculous gifts, his own disdain for the gifts in his younger years as a seminary professor, how he became convinced of the gifts from reading his Bible (rather than from what he did or didn't see), how he was used by God to heal a young blind woman, share some prophetic utterances,  speak on the friendship with God, and more. "When my good friend Dr. Jack Deere asked me in 1992 to read and critique the manuscript of his book, Surprised by the Power of the Spirit (Zondervan, 1993), I was at first honored and later overwhelmed by its persuasive and, in my opinion, irrefutable argumentation." -Sam Storms "Jack Deere offers mature insights learned from Scripture, from enduring testing, and from a wider range of experience with spiritual gifts than most others, and we have much to learn from him" - Craig Keener Some of Jack's Books: Why I Am Still Surprised by the Power of the Spirit: Discovering How God Speaks and Heals Today Even in Our Darkness: A Story of Beauty in a Broken Life The Beginner's Guide to the Gift of Prophecy
August 19, 2020
Chad Bird: Good News for Failures, Know-it-Alls & Jerks
“Why do we focus on our motivations for [repenting]? Why do we keep asking ourselves ‘Am I heartily sorry? Do I sincerely repent? Or am I only going through the motions?’ Behind the veil of our confused emotions and self-scrutinizing, the age-old internal battle continues. Our sinful nature is on a crusade, and its target conquest is confession.” Chad Bird penned those words, but I think we all fall to that same lame and un-biblical idea that we are saved, and "kept saved", not just by faith, but "saving faith" or "sincere faith" or some other qualifier to "faith in Jesus". But the reality is, the good news is, that we're saved by faith alone. Faith! Alone! Thats it. Boom. Bam. Amen! Join us as we sit with Chad Bird, and listen in while he shares his own story and insights. Chad is a brother who says what we are all thinking but nobody wants to say. Normal struggles for normal Christians.  What's crazier is that Chad reminds us that he's not the first to say these shocking and seemingly "un-pious" questions: he reminds us, for example, of Psalm 13 where the Psalmist prays back to God (the very things that God gave Him to pray) (and they seem scandalous and irreverent, but again, they are the language of languish given to man from God to pray back to God!): "How long, O Lord? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me?  How long must I take counsel in my soul and have sorrow in my heart all the day? How long shall my enemy be exalted over me?".  Read Chad Bird's "Night Driving: Notes from a Prodigal Soul" Subscribe to Chad's genuis podcast "40 Minutes in the Old Testament" Fins articles, resources, and other goods at Chad Bird's website hosted at 1517
August 15, 2020
G.K. Beale: The Garden of Eden, God, Adam, Eve & Me?
As we make our way through Genesis 1–3, we will glean three interrelated points: (1) God creates the heavens and the earth to be his cosmic sanctuary, where he sovereignly rules and dwells. All creation is designed to house the glory of God. (2) God creates Adam and Eve as kings to rule on his behalf and as priests to serve and mediate his glory. Humanity is created to remain wholly dependent on God and represent him faithfully on the earth. (3) In an attempt to be independent of God, the original couple succumbs to the serpent’s temptation. But, despite the fall, God promises to overcome evil and establish a perfect dwelling place for his glory and kingdom. Join us as we discuss with The Rev. Dr. Gregory Beale his book “The Story Retold: A Biblical - Theological Introduction to the New Testament” and what the implications are of our priesthood in the cosmic sanctuary and our everyday lives. Be sure to visit 
July 30, 2020
Chris Bruno: Hawaii Christianity, "Biblical Theology" & How to Read the Bible as One Joyful Story
200 years ago the first Christian missionaries arrived in the Kingdom of Hawaii. There remains a great heritage and legacy of faith in the islands (as well as, sadly, no small residual pain from deplorable acts). There's a great need for the kānaka ʻōiwi to return to the ancient faith. Dr. Chris Bruno and his ohana, along with others faithful saints, are resolved to proclaim the compelling truth of the grand story of God in the islands and across the Pacific. He hopes Christians will see from our "Biblical Theological" Bible readings, how all cultures and peoples of God's good earth find their own stories woven into this great single story captured in the 66 books of the Bible. Join us as Dr. Bruno points us to what a faithful reading of the Old Testament, and the rest of the Bible, looks like and results in - one that is not just a mere nugget of inspirational truth gleaned here and there, but a cohesive understanding that results in a right view of reality and truly connects us to the creation and culture, Aloha ʻĀina (that pronounced "it is good"), the people of Isreal, Hawaii and all sons and daughters of Adam in that lush garden, and how everything joyously climaxes in Jesus Christ. Visit Visit 
July 22, 2020
Pierce Hibbs: Anxiety, Suffering & God's Wonderful Plan for it in Our Lives
“If you’re [listening to this podcast] right now, I’m assuming you’re clawing your way through hell, or you have in the past, or you know someone who is. I don’t know where you are—buried under blankets in a dark room, sitting on a bus with your body stiff as steel, gripping a steering wheel like your life depended on it—but I don’t judge. I’ve been in the worst of places with my anxiety. I also don’t know how you are—whether this is a “good” day or a “bad” day, whether your anxiety seems distant like a memory or coiled around your neck like seventy-pound boa constrictor—but I promise I have something you need to hear in this book [podcast]. When it’s all boiled down, the message is plain and simple: your anxiety is not accidental. It’s doing something in you; it’s working. And once you find out how, you’ll never see it the same way again…” These words, taken from Pierce Taylor Hibbs' "Struck Down but Not Destroyed: Living Faithfully with Anxiety", are an invitation from Pierce to Christians into his own world of suffering, anxiety, pain, etc.  and to not merely do the best we can to reduce and minimize the pain and discomfort (the default assumed approach is "symptom reduction" or "deliverance" as the norm and presupposed goal), but to "Roll into your anxiety, as if it were a wave. It may roll you, but you’ll roll back stronger". Listen in and be stregnthed to look to Christ in your suffering.  For more interviews see For more form Pierce Taylor Hibbs see
July 21, 2020
Matthew Kaemingk: "Work and Worship: Reconnecting Our Labor and Liturgy" A Discussion
Sunday worship and our Monday work desperately need to inform and impact each other but they often seem like worlds apart. Dr Matthew Kaemingk joins us to discuss his forthcoming book Work and Worship: Reconnecting Our Labor and Liturgy and traces work/working/worship in ancient Israel, labor/liturgy in the eary Church, and how we can intentionally, and naturally, bring them together in our time. Visit for more goodness Visit for more on Dr. Kaemingk Read Moms, Marchers, and Managers: Priests All Three here
July 18, 2020
Are We Saved by Grace but Kept-Saved by Good Works? A Conversation with Theocast about Resting in Jesus (Part 1)
Christians know we are saved by grace, but we often think we need to conjure up and produce a steady stream of good works to “stay saved” (quiet times, being nice to our baristas, “spiritual disciplines”, etc.). In this episode Pastor’s Jon Moffitt and Justin Perdue (from the podcast and ministry) sit down with us and “encourage weary pilgrims to rest in Christ” the “friend of sinners”. We are reminded that when we are united to Christ by faith (ie become Christians), that all the good works Jesus did have actually been credited to our accounts - in such a way that God now, and forever, views you as if YOU had performed those very works (in the same way that His death has become your death). Listen, look to Jesus, and rest. For this, and other interviews and articles, visit our website at  · JON MOFFITT Bio/sermons/contact · JUSTIN PERDUE Bio/sermons/contact  · THEOCAST Podcasts/articles/teaching/etc.  · “Faith vs Faithfulness: A Primer On Rest” Free Theocast ebook 
July 15, 2020
Richard Mouw: God Delights in Sacred Prayers and Songs, but What About Family BBQs, Pagan Art and Baseball?
We all know God delights in the sacred activity of prayers and songs of Christians, but does He also delight in "secular" things as well? Can He appreciate an amazing one-handed catch at a football game? How about ancient Chinese pottery? A soaring Hawk? A family trip to Disneyland? What about Haitian Voodoo art, The Game of Thrones and Zombies? And why do we talk with such joy when discussing backyard BBQs and beach trips, but we become very somber and heavy when we shift to the topic of discipleship? Listen in as we interview the great Richard Mouw as he unpacks his decades of study to equip the saints to further Glorify and enjoy God.
July 07, 2020
Danny Hyde: Reasons for a Historic Christianity (Resting and Reformation)
Listen in as we interview Pastor/Scholar Danny Hyde and discuss how Christians are weary from thinking they always need to be "doing stuff" to impress Jesus and to "stay saved" rather than resting in Christ and His finished work on our behalf. Pastor Danny takes us through the history of Western Christianity's decay into self-centered pietism, and lost sight of the historical and longstanding Christian saints who have gone before us - especially that of the Reformers and the early Church. We ask: What hath welding to do with Christianity? What about restoring old gas pumps? Was Billy Grahm a Guru? What does a Reformed Chruch worship service look like when ordered in an intetional Christocentrc fashion? All this, and a few dad jokes along the way, in this episode of The Laymens Lounge podcast! Visit for more
July 02, 2020
Sam Storms: A Reformed Pastor who speaks in tounges, has visions, seen healings... Reminds Christians that we are commanded to pursue the gifts
Join us as we sit down with Reformed scholar/pastor/theologian, Sam Storms, who believes the Spiritual Gifts are still alive and that the church despertaley needs the power of God. We ask Sam: Are tounges just insane jibberish or are they something actually from God? Are the gifts for today or have they ceased with the Apostles? How can we actually believe the gifts when most people who "do" them are clearly charlatans? Should we seek the gifts or leave that to the charasmatics? Ive tried praying for healing, but have never seen it - why should we keep praying for them? Can we have joy, love our spouses, etc. apart from the Spirit? Are Christians commanded to pursue the gifts in their daily lives? For more interviews, articles, to equip normal Christians for noral life visit
June 10, 2020
Edwin van Driel: What is Jesus Doing? Is He on the move or asleep? How can we be a part of His activity?
Join us as we talk with Dr Edwin van Driel as we ask: what is Jesus doing? Is He even doing anything at all (because it seems like this world is going to hell and the Church seems to have no influence)? Is Jesus just a mental truth from 2,000 years ago or is He up to something today? Listen in on this edifying conversation. This, and all our transcribed/audio interviews, can be found at
May 21, 2020
John Walton: "Why did God 'rest' on the 7th day?" and Other Genesis Questions for the Modern Bible Reader
Join us as we interview Dr John Walton (professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College and one of the world's most prominent scholars and voices on Ancient near east background to the Bible) with crucial questions like 1. How do we read/interpret the creation account (literal 24 hours or something else)? 2. How did the original readers of Genesis read the creation account (function vs origin/house vs home). 3. What does it mean made in the image of God? 3. What was significant about "God resting on the 7th day"? And much more. This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at
March 05, 2020
Amos Yong: Exploring the Person and Work of the Holy Spirit
Join us as we interview Amos Yong (professor of Theology and Mission at Fuller Seminary) who seeks to bring Biblical clarity to the person and work of the Spirit, in the academy as well as the Church. In this discussion we ask who is the Spirit? What does the Spirit do? How do we get "filled" with the Spirit and what does that even mean?... This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at
March 04, 2020
Bruce Ashford: Storyline of the Bible & Cleaning Cats
Bruce Ashford is Professor of Theology & Culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and seeks to cultivate a “Christianity for the common good" with his conviction that Jesus is Lord and, for that reason, we should be thoughtful and intentional about how our belief in him should shape our lives. Join us as we discuss the storyline of the Bible, what cleaning cats has to do with Jesus, how to be a Christian where your just doing normal stuff. This, and all our transcribed interviews, can be found at
February 07, 2020