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Imperfect Leaders

Imperfect Leaders

By Jeffrey Cohn, Podcast Host

There’s no such thing as a perfect leader. But we can all learn from the very best - as long as they’re willing to be vulnerable - and share their flaws, their anxieties, and of course, their wisdom.

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Imperfect Leaders Sep 05, 2022

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Harvard College Dean Rakesh Khurana - How I Feel About Antisemitism, Racism, and Violence on Campus - and How We are Changing Our 387 Year Old Culture

Harvard College Dean Rakesh Khurana - How I Feel About Antisemitism, Racism, and Violence on Campus - and How We are Changing Our 387 Year Old Culture

Harvard is an iconic, 387 year old institution of higher education.  And it's time for a cultural overhaul.

The events of the past year – racism, antisemitism, violence on campus, the removal of its president - have thrown their imperfections into stark relief for the world to see.

Today’s guest - Harvard College Dean Rakesh Khurana – is very open and humble about Harvard’s imperfections. But that doesn’t mean he’s sitting still. Far from it. Recognizing he casts a long shadow and embracing a 'beginner's mindset', Khurana is spearheading the Intellectual Vitality effort which he hopes will revitalize the school’s culture.

The lofty goal is to create a safe space environment across the entire campus and community – both physically and psychologically – that encourages tough conversations about divisive problems, in which students can learn from each other, regardless of how uncomfortable it is, at first.

As Dean Khurana says, “let’s be hard on the problem, but easy on each other.”

We should all be keeping an eye on Harvard's progress. Lessons gleaned may help other universities - and other divided institutions and partisan leaders across America in the media, politics, education, and business.

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Apr 06, 202401:04:26
What makes 2024 SEC Champion - Coach Bruce Pearl so Special - Authenticity & Auburn University?
Mar 18, 202426:20
What I Learned Running for President of the United States - U.S. Representative, Dean Phillips

What I Learned Running for President of the United States - U.S. Representative, Dean Phillips

U.S. Representative Dean Phillips is an innovative leader. He has drawn praise from modern day business heroes - like hedge fund icon Bill Ackman - for his willingness to shake things up - like staid industries including vodka, gelato, and most recently, U.S. politics. He even threw his hat in the ring and ran for President of the United States, even though everyone knew it was a long shot campaign. Find out what he learned during this intense process.

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Mar 18, 202453:41
Humanizing Private Equity - Ted Bililies, Global Head of Transformative Leadership at Alix Partners

Humanizing Private Equity - Ted Bililies, Global Head of Transformative Leadership at Alix Partners

On any given day, a casual investor can tune into CNBC and be in total awe.  Public companies are showcased and glamorized by messianic analysts in a concerted effort to push stock prices higher. But in reality, as I recently wrote, the future economy is increasingly being financed in private markets, far away from the glitz and glamor of the New York Stock Exchange.

Today’s guest – Ted Bililies – is a world leading private equity expert. Long gone are the old, wild west days of KKR and Barbarians at the Gate, when private equity investors would buy a company, saddle it with massive debt, ruthlessly squeeze out costs, and sell the company for a quick buck.

According to Ted, PE investors, in today's world, are taking a radically different approach to adding value – a fundamentally more human approach that offers a more enduring advantage, and one that is certain to appeal to a entirely new generation of talent.  

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Feb 19, 202439:24
Tim Connelly, Minnesota Timberwolves GM - The Emotionally Intelligent Leader

Tim Connelly, Minnesota Timberwolves GM - The Emotionally Intelligent Leader

One of the best leaders in the NBA is today’s guest – Tim Connelly – General Manager of the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Before billionaire owner Marc Lore and co-owner Alex Rodriguez lured him to Minnesota, Connelly worked side by side with Stan and Josh Kroenke and Coach Michael Malone - as the team's GM who helped the Denver Nuggets win their very first world championship.

What is Tim’s secret sauce?  Is it superior analytics and competitive intelligence? Nope. Actually, it’s the exact opposite. Tim is an incredibly emotionally intelligent leader – comfortable in his own skin and able to forge authentic relationships with star talent like Anthony Edwards, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Rudy Gobert.

Although Tim prefers to stay out of the spotlight – and rarely will you see him do public interviews on ESPN or the NBA on TNT– he was gracious enough to share wisdom with our listeners. We hope you enjoy!

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Nov 27, 202348:53
The Milken Global Institute – Rich Ditizio, Chief Executive Officer – Creating A Psychologically Safe Space for World Leaders to Solve Intractable Challenges

The Milken Global Institute – Rich Ditizio, Chief Executive Officer – Creating A Psychologically Safe Space for World Leaders to Solve Intractable Challenges

The Milken Institute is a think (and action) tank - founded by legendary visionary Michael Milken - brings together brilliant people and world leaders to develop blueprints for tackling some of our planet's most critical problems including poverty, hunger, and chronic disease.

Rich Ditizio is an incredible CEO who is responsible for leading this effort. He's the symphony conductor who works hard to create a psychologically safe space for creative talent to share radical ideas, challenge each others core assumptions, and work towards a common vision.

Although much more soft-spoken, in many ways Rich reminds me of some of our past guests who lead creative and iconic organizations: IDEO, Cirque du Soleil, and Pixar.

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Nov 14, 202351:00
Love - the secret ingredient all great leaders share - with Monique and Melvin Rodriguez - founders of super brand, Mielle Organics

Love - the secret ingredient all great leaders share - with Monique and Melvin Rodriguez - founders of super brand, Mielle Organics

Mielle Organics - the hair care and beauty brand - is the fastest ever growing consumer startup in history of this industry - and was recently acquired by ⁠Procter & Gamble⁠ in a truly historic transaction that made headlines across the country.

Yet their founders - ⁠Monique and Melvin Rodriguez⁠ - had to overcome serious challenges most entrepreneurs can't even imagine. First of all the co-founders are African American, and faced a litany of nasty bias and rejection early in their journey. And if that weren’t enough the co-founders are also married and full time parents. Where did they find the time? The energy? The resilience? The faith to overcome so many obstacles on their path to excellence?

Their authentic story will be an inspiration to a future generation of entrepreneurs and leaders - from all corners of life - seeking to understand how love and faith conquers all - even in cut-throat, Corporate America.

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Nov 06, 202349:53
What NBA Champ Nikola Jokic can Teach CEOs about Leadership - with World Renowned Business Professor Dave Ulrich

What NBA Champ Nikola Jokic can Teach CEOs about Leadership - with World Renowned Business Professor Dave Ulrich

What matters more to winning - superstar talent or the organization's system and culture?

According to today's guest - Dave Ulrich - a world-class thought leader at the University of Michigan Business School - talent matters, but team work matters even more. The same rules apply in business and in sports - from Amazon to the Denver Nuggets.

For example, why does world NBA champ Nikola Jokic prefer passing than scoring? Because, in Jokic's own words, when he passes the ball, two people are happy - one person gets the assist and the other gets the points.

In today's episode, Professor Ulrich helps us understand what CEOs - and rising star leaders in any organization - can learn about leadership from transcendent talent - like Jokic, Michael Jordan, and Steph Curry - each of whom made the tough but necessary transition from individual contributor to team leader.

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Oct 20, 202327:47
Arguably Tom Brady's Most Important Mentor - Greg Harden - The Peak Performance GOAT

Arguably Tom Brady's Most Important Mentor - Greg Harden - The Peak Performance GOAT

Superstars don't just emerge out of thin air.

Every single one of them - including GOATs like Tom Brady and Michael Phelps- must overcome serious personal obstacles. And this usually happens early in life – in the pivotal teenage years. It might surprise you that Brady nearly gave up on football while still in college. But then he met someone special.

Today's guest - ⁠Greg Harden⁠ - is perhaps the greatest of all time in his profession - a performance coach and trusted mentor that helps talent reach their full potential - not only as athletes, but as human beings and great leaders.

Harden has just released a book that's destined to become a best seller – “Staying Sane in an Insane World.”

And if you’ve ever wondered what it takes to become a trusted coach and mentor, Greg shares the very personal story of the crucible moments that helped shape his core values and purpose in life.

⁠www.imperfectleaders.com ⁠, ⁠Jeffrey Cohn⁠


Oct 07, 202350:05
Tim Brown - Chair IDEO - Where Innovators Turn for Inspiration

Tim Brown - Chair IDEO - Where Innovators Turn for Inspiration

When the world's most innovative organizations need a little inspiration, they turn to IDEO.

IDEO is the most iconic design studio in the world.

Clients are far-ranging and global - from hot, new startups to ground-breaking school systems to entire nations - and of course iconic brands including Coca-Cola, Ford, Ikea. And yes, they actually helped Apple create the very first mouse. If that weren't enough, one of IDEO's founders helped design the modern, fold down screen laptop computer that the entire world uses today.

For nearly 20 years Tim Brown - today's guest - was the CEO and orchestra conductor at IDEO - leading an incredibly diverse and creative team to unimaginable heights.

Brown recently stepped down as CEO, making room for a new generation of talent and to focus on thought leadership. His best-selling book - "Change By Design" has influenced innovators across the globe - and should be required reading for all students of innovation and leadership, alongside our other distinguished podcast guests including: Roger Martin a best-selling author; Ed Catmull, Co-Founder of Pixar; and Harvard Business School Professor Amy Edmondson.

Although he would probably never admit it - Tim Brown is without a doubt - the ultimate innovator's whisperer.

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Oct 01, 202344:15
The Success Condition - Rey Flemings - Founder & CEO of Myria

The Success Condition - Rey Flemings - Founder & CEO of Myria

Rey Flemings - the founder and CEO of an app called Myria - the world's most exclusive concierge service - is on a quest to change the world.

Myria's ultra-wealthy clients - nearly all of whom are in the top .003% - come to Flemings with a wide range of requests, from relatively easy ones - like a front row seat to a Beyonce concert, box seats at the Super Bowl, or a personal invitation to the annual Met Gala in New York. Or sometimes they have nearly impossible requests - like helping clients secure an elusive O1 Visa during a government shutdown, or providing security detail in a country that frowns upon that sort of things.

And sometimes clients have off-the-charts existential requests - which Rey particularly loves - like partnering to enhance their personal legacies, figuring out how to lead happier lives, or the ultimate dream, helping them find true love. Helping clients solve these challenges are all part of the human condition, and a big part of Rey's job. Myria's mission aligns completely with Flemings' core values and authentic leadership style.

No matter how you slice it - Flemings has found a unique niche - and the company he founded is destined to make a positive impact in the world.

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Sep 26, 202348:22
Why Do Five Million People Trust Professor Robert Cialdini?

Why Do Five Million People Trust Professor Robert Cialdini?

Every once in a while I'm stupid enough to get into an argument with my wife. Even when I win the battle (rarely), I lose the war (always).

This paradox made me think about the art of influence. How do you persuade people in a way that both sides feel they've won?

I turned to the world's preeminent thought leader on the topic - Professor Robert Cialdini - who wrote a book called Influence, The Psychology of Persuasion - that has sold more than five million copies around the world.

Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett loved the book so much they actually gave Cialdini a share of their stock - Berkshire Hathaway - which is now worth nearly 1/2 a million dollars. When asked about the gift, Munger replied, "The principles in your book have made our firm a lot of money over the years. You deserve a gift."

After listening to today's episode, let us know if you agree with Charlie Munger? Do Professor Cialdini's principles resonate with you?

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Sep 15, 202345:51
The Metamorphosis of Jason Karp - Founder, HumanCo - True Food, Snow Days, Cosmic Bliss, Grove Collaborative

The Metamorphosis of Jason Karp - Founder, HumanCo - True Food, Snow Days, Cosmic Bliss, Grove Collaborative

What do Oprah Winfrey, Drew Barrymore, and Scarlett Johansson have in common with today's guest - Jason Karp?

Every one of them is passionate about changing the way people eat - especially in the United States. And, they've all helped build some of the country's most amazing food brands including - True Food Kitchen, Snow Days, Cosmic Bliss, and Grove Collaborative.

Today, Jason is an incredible entrepreneur and philanthropist. Yet, his life has never been easy. Many times during his life, Jason has looked straight into the abyss - felt completely alone and deeply ashamed - and somehow used nothing but personal intellect and tenacity to emerge even stronger from his trauma.

It's the definition of a hero's journey.

In today's episode, Jason beautifully articulates his personal 'crucible' moments that helped shape his core values, personal mission, and leadership style.

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Sep 01, 202301:15:01
Pixar Co-Founder Ed Catmull - The Hero's Journey

Pixar Co-Founder Ed Catmull - The Hero's Journey

Ed Catmull is an enigma.

There's a good chance you wouldn't recognize him if he were standing right next to you. Yet, he's the creative genius and co-founder of Pixar - a totally unique organization that has completely changed the way many of us think about movies, culture, and even what it means to be a human being.

Catmull usually avoids the spotlight. In reality, he would rather work - behind the scenes - to build a fertile culture in which others can grow and succeed. In which others can reach their full creative potential. And, in which others can satisfy basic - if not contradictory human needs - like expressing individual ideas while simultaneously collaborating with others to build it into something much more profound.

Who could ever forget these iconic Pixar characters?:

Should we take the time to listen to Catmull's advice?

Well, many others have over the past few decades, including visionaries like Steve Jobs and George Lucas; creative geniuses like Brad Bird and Pete Docter; business icons like Bob Iger; and even top thought leaders (and former guests on our podcast), Professors Amy Edmondson, Linda Hill, and Roger Martin.

Trust us...Ed is worth a listen!

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Aug 22, 202301:00:01
Embracing Imperfection - Greg Sands, Founder Costanoa Ventures
Jul 20, 202346:03
The Right Kind of Wrong - with Harvard Business School Professor, Amy Edmondson

The Right Kind of Wrong - with Harvard Business School Professor, Amy Edmondson

Harvard Business School Professor Amy Edmondson has been recognized as the #1 thought leader in the world.

She literally revolutionized the way CEOs around the world think about psychological safety. In her new book - The Right Kind of Wrong - she takes this conceptual framework one big step forward - and shares a practical tool-kit to help people reframe risk and learn from mistakes.

Edmondson confronts head-on the biggest dilemma facing innovative organizations. Bluntly, it requires people take risks and venture into the unknown. Yet people despise failure. How can leaders resolve this paradox? How can leaders create a culture that inspires their people to innovate, to be inclusive, to share unpopular views, to venture into the unknown, and to learn from their mistakes? How should talent feel about inevitable failure - and the embarrassment and shame they may feel?

One thing is certain - until organizations embrace 'intelligent failure' - they'll be at a competitive disadvantage to more innovative competitors.

Professor Edmondson's practical lessons apply broadly and equally well to innovators, CEOs, elite athletes, top chefs, research lab scientists, and even parents who just want to raise kids who embrace a more healthy perspective to risk taking and learning from the right kind of wrong.

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Jun 18, 202335:35
Doing Well by Doing Good - with Jennifer Nuckles, CEO R-Zero

Doing Well by Doing Good - with Jennifer Nuckles, CEO R-Zero

Think of all the germs, bacteria, virus, and other airborne diseases we expose ourselves to every single day.

Think how much worse this problem is when we are indoors, in closed spaces, and around lots of people. One last thing - consider that a full 90% of our time is spent indoors! Taken together, this is a big problem.

R-Zero has the solution - an energy efficient, technology-enabled, cost-effective, and 99.99% efficacious way to zap these harmful micro-organisms before they have a chance to enter your bloodstream. It's no surprise they've attracted elite partners and investors like The Mayo Clinic, John Doerr, Chairman Kleiner Perkins, Ira Ehrenpreis founder of DBL Partners,

The CEO of fast-growing startup is Jennifer Nuckles - an energetic, whip-smart, values-driven leader who believes strongly in the adage that companies should do well (make money) by doing good (helping others and the planet).

Jennifer shares her incredible journey, obstacles along the way, and valuable leadership lessons.

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Apr 26, 202340:13
G.H. Smart - The World's Best Leadership Advisory - with Founder, Geoff Smart

G.H. Smart - The World's Best Leadership Advisory - with Founder, Geoff Smart

Today's guest - Geoff Smart - has literally revolutionized the way companies around the world think about talent and leadership.

The leadership advisory Geoff founded - G.H. Smart - is on speed-dial of the world's top CEOs, private equity investors, and corporate board members - who call when crucial and complex leadership challenges need an elegant, data-driven solution - like CEO succession and executive team composition.

In much the same way that Professor Michael Porter of the Harvard Business School redefined the way companies think about strategy formulation, Geoff and his colleagues at G.H. Smart - have forever changed the way companies around the world think about talent. Until Geoff quantified a practical approach to assessing leadership potential and culture fit, companies were forced to naively rely on 'gut feel' and instinct. The G.H. Smart approach is 10X more effective.

As Geoff's former professor and management guru - Peter Drucker - famously said, 'culture eats strategy for breakfast.' And now, decades later, G.H. Smart helps clients - every single day - bring this vision to life.

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Apr 24, 202353:45
Succession - Not the HBO Hit Show, But Real Life Succession with Chairman of Tyson Foods, John Tyson
Apr 17, 202328:58
Get Out of Your Comfort Zone - Stan Van Gundy, Former NBA Coach and TNT Analyst

Get Out of Your Comfort Zone - Stan Van Gundy, Former NBA Coach and TNT Analyst

Stan Van Gundy - is an icon in sports and broadcasting.

Before his current stint as a top basketball analyst at TNT, he was an NBA coach for several NBA teams, including the New Orleans Pelicans.

According to Coach Van Gundy, the best talent - across all disciplines - not just in sports, but in music, in academia, and certainly in business - don't just welcome occasional feedback and advice - they absolutely crave it.

They constantly seek to get out of their comfort zone - stretch the limits of their potential - make some mistakes along the way - reflect upon what they can do better - and eventually change their mindset and level up to unimaginable heights.

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Mar 21, 202317:40
The Brand Leader - A Conversation with Vivaldi's Founder and CEO, Erich Joachimsthaler

The Brand Leader - A Conversation with Vivaldi's Founder and CEO, Erich Joachimsthaler

Today's guest - Erich Joachimsthaler - is the #1 brand strategist on the planet. 

He built from scratch a top-ranked professional services firm - called Vivaldi_ - which regularly advises the world's most admired CEOs and chief marketing officers - on their most complex transformational issues. 

Joachmisthaler's leadership journey will amaze you. He has continuously 'written the next chapter' - each new one more riveting than the last  - from humble roots growing up in a small town in Germany to earning a doctorate from Harvard Business School to co-authoring Brand Leadership (with David Aaker) which literally redefined the way companies think about brand, strategy and their core purpose. 

It's no wonder why top talent and future leaders are attracted to Vivaldi. The firm has a unique culture and inspires future leaders to reach maximum potential.

His most recent book - The Interaction Field - has been recognized by top scholars at elite business school.

We all know that something fundamental has changed in how businesses deliver value, but many of us have no idea what to do about it. This deeply insightful book takes you behind the scenes to explore the idea of shared value - for real. Virality, network effects and learning have changed the very nature of competitive advantage. This deeply insightful book will show you how to use these shifts to your advantage."―Rita Gunther McGrath, professor, Columbia Business School

"A thrilling new way of looking at a successful business model for the future. This fascinating book contains great business stories-such as LEGO, John Deere, Alibaba, Flatiron Health, and more-as well as important thinking today's CEOs should become familiar with."―Vijay Govindarajan Coxe Distinguished Professor at Tuck at Dartmouth NYT and WSJ Best Selling Author, Three Box Solution: A Strategy For Leading Innovation

"In this powerful and groundbreaking book, Joachimsthaler clearly demonstrates how platform thinking can be utilized to create shared value and drive new growth for companies and brands."―David Collis, Adjunct Professor at Harvard Business School, author, Corporate Strategy: Resources and the Scope of the Firm

"A fascinating, practical and insightful book that brilliantly examines the value that platform thinking can bring to companies and brands in today's hyper-connected world."―Sangeet Paul Choudary, CEO of Platformation Labs, International best-selling co-author, Platform Revolution and author of Platform Scale

"An engaging, insightful and immensely practical book on building strong brands and businesses delivering not just shareholder value but also shared value for companies, customers and society."―Vince Hudson Senior Vice President, Enterprise Marketing Strategy, American Express

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Mar 09, 202355:54
Kent Thiry - Inspiring a Future Generation of Transformational Leaders

Kent Thiry - Inspiring a Future Generation of Transformational Leaders

Kent Thiry is one of the most admired and accomplished leaders in the country.    

For many years he was CEO and Board Chair of Davita - and now he is a philanthropist, a friend and a trusted advisor to high potential CEOs, politicians, environmental activists, and rising stars. Thiry also works closely with top private equity firms including KKR and Partners Group.

During this conversation, Thiry is completely vulnerable and comfortable in his own skin - sharing with us crucible experiences - that both tested and shaped his leadership mettle.  For example, Thiry shares with us his recent horrifying experience with the U.S. Government which accused him of conspiracy - violating the Sherman Act - charges which he was completely and quickly exonerated. 

Importantly, Thiry explains what he learned from this agonizing experience, and imparts wisdom for any aspiring leader who will themselves inevitably confront terrifying challenges - and who will need to dig deep, develop resilience, and lean into their core values. This is what leadership in today's unpredictable world requires - and there is simply no better mentor or sounding board than today's guest. 

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Feb 26, 202352:58
Marisa Thalberg - Using Soft Skills to Supercharge Iconic Brands - Taco Bell, Loews, and Estee Lauder

Marisa Thalberg - Using Soft Skills to Supercharge Iconic Brands - Taco Bell, Loews, and Estee Lauder

Today's guest - Marisa Thalberg - has successfully guided some of the country's most iconic brands through incredible transformations - including Lowe’s, Taco Bell, The Estée Lauder Companies. 

Here are just a few of the leadership qualities I noticed during our conversation - Intuition. Compassion. Empathy. Vulnerability.  Have these soft skills traditionally been described as 'feminine.'  You bet!  

And men better join this so called feminine revolution or they have no chance succeeding in today's fast-moving, complex, unpredictable world.   

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Feb 14, 202337:36
JFK Jr. - America's Reluctant Prince - As Told by His Old Friend Professor Steve Gillon
Feb 11, 202349:20
 Collective Genius in Health Care - with Dr. Rakesh Suri - and Harvard Business School Professor Linda Hill

Collective Genius in Health Care - with Dr. Rakesh Suri - and Harvard Business School Professor Linda Hill

Dr. Rakesh Suri is one of the top heart transplant surgeons in the world - with stints at both Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic - the top two hospitals in the world. 

Suri is also one of the most visionary leaders in the world. Recognizing his considerable gifts, Tony Robbins recently recruited Suri to help lead a revolutionary new healthcare venture called Fountain Life.

Rakesh's leadership journey is so compelling, that one of the world's top scholars - Linda Hill - a Professor at the Harvard Business School - wrote three case studies on Dr. Suri - focusing on leadership, globalization, and innovation. 

Today, we are in for a special treat. I've invited both Suri and Hill to the podcast.

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Feb 02, 202344:27
Power Lawyer - Marcie Cleary - Helping Artists Achieve their Dreams ... and their Dollars
Jan 30, 202339:33
Elon Musk's Personal Lawyer - Alex Spiro

Elon Musk's Personal Lawyer - Alex Spiro

Why do modern day icons, athletes, and artist have Alex Spiro on speed dial? Why do they call him when they run into adversity? Why has Alex been called Elon Musk's personal lawyer?

Because all of these leaders know it's wise to have the country's top legal mind in their corner.  Alex plays by a different rule book - and his win/loss record is indisputable. Not only does Alex help clients in the heat of battle - during a high-stakes trial, for example - he also helps clients grow stronger and become even more resilient leaders.  

Spiro is the ultimate 'fight doctor' - like Ferdie Pacheco was to Muhammad Ali - a loyal guru ready to repair deep cuts in the heat of battle - and instill confidence - into champions who are quite literally changing the world.

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Dec 23, 202235:37
Building the Future of Leadership - Anna Barber, Partner M13

Building the Future of Leadership - Anna Barber, Partner M13

We are proud to welcome, Anna Barber!

This country was built on the shoulders of great entrepreneurs and innovators – from Henry Ford to Steve Jobs to Elon Musk.

But for all of the iconic legends we hear about daily in the national media – there are thousands upon thousands who fail miserably. Transforming a great idea into a great company takes leadership skills.  Developing those 'soft' skills is hard work.

Today’s guest – Anna Barber – is a CEO whisperer - and her superpower is helping hard-charging entrepreneurs become great leaders. I've heard many entrepreneurs rave about Anna - including former guests on this show - Sid Pandiya (Kona) and Claire Schmidt (AllVoices) - two amazing CEO/founders.

Anna is a partner at the red hot venture capital firm - M13 - and one of the reasons why founders flock to the VC firm for capital, advice, and an unparalleled, long-term relationship.

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Dec 02, 202231:09
The Real Shawshank Redemption - Dean Williams - Director, Colorado Prison System
Nov 28, 202239:01
Character Development - with Tricia Biggio, CEO & Founder of Invisible Universe

Character Development - with Tricia Biggio, CEO & Founder of Invisible Universe

Imagine this - you're a parent in a crowded grocery store with your two kids - who have a total meltdown and start screaming for no apparent reason.  Do you take a quick break, run to your car, have a good cry, and then come back to retrieve your upset kids?   

Of course not!  

Tricia Biggio - todays guest is a mother and the founder of a cool new company called Invisible Universe. She says these anxiety-provoking feelings happen all the time, both as a mom and when running a fast paced, venture backed startup. There are many times - almost daily - during which you feel like crying or screaming or shutting down completely.  But you can't, because you're the CEO - and everyone is watching - and listening your every word - and even analyzing your body language.  

It's true, the CEO's personal style and character truly does impact the culture of the entire organization. And at Invisible, Biggio has created a culture of fearless honesty - a psychologically safe space in which all employees are inspired to give direct and brutally honest feedback during the creative and new character development process. 

Invisible Universe is destined to become the next Pixar, but even better. Even though they are still in startup mode, they have quickly amassed an impressive list of creative partners and top venture investors including:  Serena Williams and Alexis Ohanian; the D'Amelio family, (a.k.a. the first family of Tik Tok); and of course, Clydeo, a character based on Jennifer Aniston's actual dog; and Spencer Rascoff.

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Nov 12, 202251:32
A Good Eye for Great Leaders - Todd Zangrillo - True Search
Nov 04, 202232:13
A Recovering Perfectionist - Claire Schmidt - Founder/CEO AllVoices

A Recovering Perfectionist - Claire Schmidt - Founder/CEO AllVoices

There's a big problem in Corporate America. Not every employee voice is heard - many people are silenced or severely muffled. This causes many problems - less innovation, increased risk, elevated stress, and costly turnover.

Allvoices has a solution - it's a novel software that gives every single employee in an organization a strong voice - that is guaranteed to be heard - and acted upon - by the right people at the right time.

Claire Schmidt is not only the founder of Allvoices, she is a direct beneficiary of feedback generated by the software her team created. Her company has experienced massive growth since its inception a few years ago and has attracted some of the smartest investors in the country like Silverton Partners, Spencer Rascoff, Necessary Ventures, and M13 Ventures.

As a result of this early success, Claire has had to build new leadership skills and adjust her style - like getting out of the weeds, not being such a perfectionist, and delegating even more to others. Her vulnerability and authenticity shines through in this candid discussion.

To share thoughts with today's podcast guest - Claire Schmidt - or future guests - join our community at www.imperfectleaders.com.

Nov 01, 202234:21
Opendorse - Helping College Athletes Make Money
Oct 20, 202245:42
Scaling Psychological Safety - Sid Pandiya - Co-Founder, Kona

Scaling Psychological Safety - Sid Pandiya - Co-Founder, Kona

Amy Edmondson - the immensely popular professor at the Harvard Business School - has done amazing research on the benefits of psychological safety. Great companies create a culture that not only allows - but encourages - people with diverse points of view to openly express ideas and to challenge one another.  

Today's guest - Sid Pandiya - is the co-founder of Kona - a software company that has created a practical tool that helps companies bring Professor Edmondson's ideas to life. Kona software helps companies create a psychologically safe culture that enhances mental health and reduces burnout and turnover. It also helps employees become more self aware and empathic - the main ingredients of emotional intelligence - as Daniel Goleman espoused nearly 25 years ago.   

It's been an amazing journey for Sid and his co-founders - Andrew and Corine.  They've faced incredible leadership challenges along the way. But they are determined to achieve their vision of helping companies supercharge their culture - enabled in part through Kona software solutions.

Share your thoughts and suggest future podcast guests at -  www.imperfectleaders.com.

Oct 16, 202230:25
Should a Speeding Ticket Disqualify a CEO Candidate? - Aiyesha Dey, Harvard Business School Professor

Should a Speeding Ticket Disqualify a CEO Candidate? - Aiyesha Dey, Harvard Business School Professor

Should a couple of speeding tickets - or perhaps a big, brand new house - disqualify a top CEO candidate?  Should hiring companies investigate - or even care about - the personal lives of top executive prospects?

Today's guest - Professor Aiyesha Dey, Harvard Business School - is a governance expert who recently conducted fascinating research on exactly this topic - and Corporate America should pay attention to her practical and well-researched advice.

Like all human beings, CEOs are complex and may have a dark side. Rather than ignore these warning signs, smart boards of directors gather as much intelligence as possible on candidates during the CEO succession process, even if that means investigating the personal lives for important clues on rule bending, self-control and humility. Armed with multiple data points, Boards are able to see the full picture, manage risks, and up-skill their governance capabilities.

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Oct 09, 202243:35
The Renaissance Leader - David Teece

The Renaissance Leader - David Teece

There's a reason why top CEOs have David Teece's phone number on speed dial.  Because Teece is one of the few people on the planet who can help these CEOs solve their most complex challenges. 

Teece is a scholar-entrepreneur who is equally comfortable creating a multi-disciplinary theory that solves a complex business challenge; directing an elite research institute at U.C. Berkeley; or advising Fortune 50 Boards of Directors on bet-the-company strategic decisions. 

Teece is also a world-class CEO, building from scratch the fastest-growing professional services firm in history - The Berkeley Research Group - an award winning economics consulting firm. Teece's leadership style is to create a talent magnet culture that attracts and inspires world-class consultants and academic experts who want to make a huge impact with clients and policy-makers.

If that weren't enough, Teece is a savvy venture investor, real estate developer, viticulturist, and captain - with a fleet of sailboats across the world.

Any comments, questions or thoughts to share with today's podcast guest - David Teece - join our community at www.imperfectleaders.com.



Oct 06, 202234:01
Why the Mango Tree Bends - Aman Bhutani - CEO Godaddy

Why the Mango Tree Bends - Aman Bhutani - CEO Godaddy

In today's podcast, Aman Bhutani - the CEO of Godaddy - shares his incredible leadership journey - from a modest upbringing in India to the CEO of one of the top technology firms in the world.

Bhutani's leadership style is refreshing. He completely embraces vulnerability and makes a habit of learning from past mistakes.  HIs mindset helps him connect authentically with others and create a culture of continuous improvement. Bhutani shares a powerful metaphor - learned as a child - of a bending mango tree to illuminate the importance of respect, learning, and inclusivity.

Everyone - from first time managers and team leaders to powerful chief executive officers - can learn from Bhutani's inspiring story and practical lessons. 

Any comments, questions or thoughts to share with today's podcast guest - Aman Bhutani - join our community at www.imperfectleaders.com.

Oct 02, 202239:42
Million Dollar Listing's Josh Flagg - Discusses His Brilliant and Entertaining New Book "The Deal"

Million Dollar Listing's Josh Flagg - Discusses His Brilliant and Entertaining New Book "The Deal"

Josh Flagg has written a seminal new book called -  "The Deal" -  which I predict will soon become required reading in universities and business schools across the country - because it throws into stark relief salient lessons in business, leadership and life. 

"The Deal" is as funny and disarming as it is practical and smart. 

In today's conversation, Josh shares his unique perspective on real estate including the importance of having the right mindset, the art and science of valuation, and unwavering client focus. He also shares a little bit about how his personal perspective - and core values - were shaped at a very young age by Grandma Edith - a true icon and hero during Flagg's formative years.

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Sep 25, 202223:50
Spencer Rascoff - Founder of Zillow and Pacaso - is a World-Class Coach to Future Leaders
Sep 17, 202250:39
Why Beyonce Loves Lemon Perfect

Why Beyonce Loves Lemon Perfect

Yanni Hufnagel - the founder and CEO of Lemon Perfect - is one of the most passionate entrepreneurs in the country - not just the $13 billion enhanced water industry.   

He has created a product, a brand, and a values-driven corporate culture that is widely admired by consumers and celebrity-investors across the country - including Beyonce, Blake Griffin, Sloane Stephens, Jared Mccain, and C.J. Stroud

After a decade coaching basketball - and learning from some of the most iconic head coaches in the country - Jeff Capel, Eric Musselman, Kevin Stallings (Vanderbilt), and Tommy Amaker (Harvard), including - he decided to take the entrepreneurial plunge.  After he raised his first dollar from a supportive investor, he knew he was all in, and there simply was no turning back. 

It wasn't easy. There were a lot of dark days. A lot of tears.  But now the company is experiencing hockey stick growth straight to the stars.   

Any comments, questions or thoughts to share with today's podcast guest - Yanni Hufnagel - join our community at www.imperfectleaders.com. 

Sep 05, 202239:17
'Power Moms' with Joann Lublin and Kevin Yorn
Aug 07, 202250:52
Rinse. Wash. Don’t Repeat – with Bryan Leach – Founder and CEO of Ibotta

Rinse. Wash. Don’t Repeat – with Bryan Leach – Founder and CEO of Ibotta

The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock is a TS Elliot poem that rings true with todays guest, Bryan Leach, founder and CEO of Colorado based unicorn - Ibotta

In the poem, Prufrock laments a string of intellectual dead ends and lost opportunities, and is haunted by what could have been - instead of his reality - struggling through never ending, visceral feelings of regret, shame, and humiliation. Leach could relate. Even though he was a partner at a prestigious law firm, he had these exact same feelings of dread and boredom.  

Rinse. Wash. Repeat.  

But unlike many of us, Leach had the courage to do something about it. He quit his job - and started a new venture. Success didn’t come easy. But it was a journey worth taking. Today, Ibotta is one of the most successful private companies in the country and is poised to disrupt the entire consumer loyalty industry.  Leach is a powerful leader who displays unabashed vulnerability - not afraid to do the hard work necessary to become more self aware and authentic.    

Any comments, questions or thoughts to share with today's podcast guest - Bryan Leach - join our community at www.imperfectleaders.com.

Aug 04, 202251:08
I Got Fired By The President of the United States - Richard Spencer - Former Secretary of the Navy
Jul 29, 202229:41
Creating a Culture of Leadership Development, Todd Olson - Founder and CEO of Pendo
Jul 20, 202252:04
He's not the next Elon Musk, He's the First Gene Berdichevsky
Jul 15, 202246:30
Culture Fit and Leadership Potential - with Chuck Muth of Beyond Meat and Coca Cola
Jul 14, 202221:42
Shattering Wall Street's Glass Ceiling, Eileen Murray Paved the Way for a Future Generation of Talent
Jul 12, 202232:55
#1 Global Business Thinker, Roger Martin, Why is He on Speed Dial of Every Top CEO in the World?

#1 Global Business Thinker, Roger Martin, Why is He on Speed Dial of Every Top CEO in the World?

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Today’s guest – Roger Martin – is one of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to business and leadership.

He was recently voted the #1 by Thinkers50 a ranking of the most influential global business thinkers.

He is on speed dial of hundreds of famous CEOs across the world – from Silicon Valley startups to Fortune 50 giants. They call Roger when they are faced with a complex strategic or cultural issue that has no easy answer. Roger has a unique way of framing tough challenges and communicating in a crystal-clear way that helps top leaders rethink old mental models.

He’s recently written a new book – which I loved – called “A New Way to Think” – and he’s published some of the all-time best-selling articles for the Harvard Business Review.

In that context, he’s the perfect guest to help leaders – of all shapes and sizes – think about their flaws, outdated mental models, and imperfections. Just because you learned a new principle at a top business school, doesn’t make it right. In fact it may be dead wrong, according to Roger. He should know, he was the Dean of one of the top business schools in the country – The Rotman School of Management at University of Toronto – for 15 years!

Nothing is out of bounds during our conversation – from money, power, politics, and capitalism, itself.

Jul 06, 202201:11:06
CEO of Adare Pharma, Tom Sellig, Articulating Core Values During a High-Stakes Interview
Jul 03, 202239:22
Sequoia Capital Global Managing Partner, Doug Leone, A Venture Capital Legend
Jun 23, 202213:08