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Create Out Loud With Jennifer Louden

Create Out Loud With Jennifer Louden

By Jennifer Louden
Have you been saying "no" to that inner-voice begging you to be creative? Are you a working creative who has been feeling especially burned out? It's time to say yes. It's time to Create Out Loud.

Hosted by bestselling creative entrepreneur Jennifer Louden, Create Out Loud is a weekly show featuring conversations with creative people about the nitty-gritty of everyday creative life: like how to establish rituals and routines, how to navigate envy, and even how to MAKE MONEY. Yes, even the awkward stuff.

So tune in with us every week because it's time for YOU to Create Out Loud!
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20 | Jen's Biggest "A-Ha" Creativity Breakthroughs From Season 1
As much as YOU feel like you've learned a lot from season 1 of Create Out Loud, I promise you, Jen has learned JUST as much. In this very special episode, Jen's producer Jeff asks her some of HIS burning questions about Jen's biggest creative breakthroughs, and we through it back to some amazing moments with Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Rissi Palmer, and Angeline Boulley.
August 17, 2021
19 | Poet Kate Baer On Using Your Critics To Fuel Your Art
Bestselling poet Kate Baer has a beautifully truthful relationship with motherhood, with social media, with internet trolls, and with being a woman. It's wrestling with all of this that inspires her poetry, poetry women love (and some men are threatened by) because she tells the truth. Listen to how Kate uses her life, and her critics, to know her truth and develop her craft. It's incredibly brave. Among other topics, Jen and Kate also discuss: - How social media complicates creativity but also lead partially to Kate's new poetry book - Why "a-ha moments" may be a myth - How to not get a trapped in a certain medium - What lead her to write her newest book (hint: it wasn't what I thought!)
August 10, 2021
18 | Ashley Sumner On Letting Roadblocks fuel rather than derail Your Creativity
Shedding identities has been at the center of Ashley Sumner's creative journey and her company Quilt, and a good thing as she had to change her company's entire mission at the start of the pandemic. Ashley is the founder of a social media community Quilt dedicate to connection and self-care, creating a unique bridge between Jen's early work and Ashley's company Quilt. Jen and Ashley are both passionate about using story and connection to help women face the climate crisis without being crushed by despair. Jen and Ashley also discuss: - How to follow your signature themes - What it means to shed an identity and why it's been crucial for Ashely - How to quiet our souls to listen to our desires even when we are freaked out - How Ashley's biggest professional setback led her to Quilt
August 3, 2021
17 | Poet Maggie Smith: How To Be Honest In Your Creativity
For bestselling poet and author Maggie Smith, sometimes the secret behind making her poetry interesting, unexpected, and surprising comes to "making it weirder." Maggie's unapologetic, unabashed approach to her work is the reason her work has been read by everyone from Meryl Streep to Dr. Jill Biden. Maggie hits on something essential about successful creativity. How do we be truly honest in our work? Sometimes it means admitting that we DON'T want to write every day. Sometimes it means making sure you don't miss that therapy appointment. Being honest with yourself is the only way you can be certain to be honest in your work. In this interview, Maggie and Jen also discuss: - What if feels like to have written a poem that goes viral when there is a mass shooting or other horror - How to incorporate our everyday experiences into our writing - The art of paying attention - How to unlock a good metaphor - How Maggie navigated her divorce in public and how it became her best-selling book Keep Moving
July 27, 2021
16 | Novelist Laurie Frankel: Can you Love Putting your Work out As Much As Creating It?
Isn't it wonderful to hear widely celebrated NYT's best-selling novelists talk about shitty first drafts? Laurie's acclaimed new bestseller One Two Three "wrote hard," for her, and that's OK! For Laurie, the joy comes in the process, whether it's easy, hard, smooth, bumpy, or annoying - that complicated cocktail is what makes the creative process beautiful. And Laurie gets candid about the other side: PUBLISHING. Sometimes "Creating Out Loud," isn't our first instinct, but it's all apart of what we do as artists. In this conversation, Jen and Laurie also discuss: - Laurie's passion for creative inclusion - Fiction v. non-fiction storytelling - The "Prestige" of "literature v. fiction" - How and why we should study our craft - Navigating the world of a transgender child - Being a story savant
July 20, 2021
15 | Poet Tamkio Beyer On Creative Play And Freedom
Tamiko Beyer's acclaimed poetry collection Last Days, was assembled from a collection of poetry written over the course of decade, which speaks to Tamiko's sense of open-minded freedom and patience when it comes to work. For Tamiko, the creative process is all about leaving space for play and imagination.  By relieving the pressure and intensity of "generating a product" when it comes to our work, we actually create more space to tell the truth and generate our best, most authentic work. In this conversation, we also discuss: - How creative playfulness can enact social change - How capitalism has corrupted the creative process - How to re-think book launches - Craft advice for writing poetry - How Tamiko's multi-language household informs her work
July 13, 2021
14 | Maggie Shipstead: The Creative Freedom To Get It Wrong... and Right!
Maggie Shipstead is an NYT-Bestselling author of three novels - Seating Arrangements, Astonish Me, and Great Circle (on many best-of lists for 2021) and her work has won a laundry list of awards. She's also written essays and travel articles like her piece for Modern Love. And like all of us, Maggie has to begin again, face the blank page, and watch projects die. Maggie's newest novel "Great Circle" follows pilot Marian Graves who will take to the sky and circumnavigate the globe at all costs - and isn't that so much like the creative process? In this interview, we discuss: - How to make choices in our creative work - Enjoying the experience of creating - What tools and software Maggie uses to write - The "money" conversation - The places Maggie loves to write - How Maggie's travels have inspired her work
July 6, 2021
13 | Susan Piver: Open Your Heart To Your Creative Yearnings
All of us get caught up in the shoulds and I can't of our creative life, but Susan Piver has learned, through decades of meditation and practice, to disregard these inner voices. Susan regards all of her creative endeavors as art projects, a chance to get her hands in the clay of creativity and create something beautiful. Susan has learned to open her heart to the creative yearnings and she's passionate about helping other creatives approach their own work with the same level of curiosity and generosity. In this episode, we also discuss: - How to remove ourselves from the expectations of our audience - How we can use our creativity to teach others - Why sometimes it's the right thing to hide from others - How to give ourselves permission to evolve our creative tastes and passions -How Susan creates while dealing with chronic pain
June 29, 2021
12 | Lisa Cron: Using Story To Elevate Your Creativity And Change The World
Lisa cron is tired of staying quiet. As a bestselling author and widely celebrated story coach, Lisa has worked as a story consultant for decades with best-selling authors, major Hollywood studios, and taught at NYU and UCLA. And now, she's raising her story voice to help us all. Lisa's philosophies around story are deeply researched truths. She knows that understanding the mechanics of storytelling will help us become the best creatives we can be, but will also help us change the world, by elevating our critical thinking and learning to decode the false stories that culture and the patriarchy try to snare us with. We also discuss: - How signature themes define our source material - How to find the courage to tell our truth in our art and activism - Why facts don't change minds - the science behind effective story-telling
June 22, 2021
11 | Annie Murphy Paul: Optimize Your Mind, Body, and Space for Peak Creativity
Annie Murphy Paul is one of the most interesting and acclaimed scientist writers working today, and her most recent book, The Extended Mind, may just fundamentally shift your relationship with your creativity and your brain forever. The Extended Mind is all about how our minds are not brain bound and by understanding all the ways we can - and must! - extend our minds, we can learn to work with the challenges of modern life that are so thinking heavy in entirely new ways. Hints: it's good to fidget! The spaces you work in affect how you think! Your brain needs nature. And so much more. In this episode, we discuss: - The myth of our "brain" being our "mind." - How movement and space affect the way we think - How to optimize our creativity with practical strategies - Why grit and the growth mindset aren't enough - Why our brain is NOT a computer Get a copy of Annie's book here!:
June 17, 2021
10 | Kirstin Neff: Why Fierce Self-Compassion Is Essential For Your Creative Life And Our World
How often do we sit down to face the blank page or canvas, only to get crippled by the paralyzing critic: "You can't do this, you're not good enough....WHY BOTHER?" What if, instead, you told yourself, "keep going, you've got this, your voice matters." This is the self-compassionate approach to creativity, and it's essential to your success. But some days, you need more. That’s where Kristen Neff’s work on fierce self-compassion comes in. Kristin Neff is the pioneer researcher of self-compassion and she has spent the last years studying how women can combine fierceness with self-compassion, which many of us have been in-cultured to reject. Listen in as we talk about: - What fierce self-compassion is and what it isn’t - How it can help your creative process and your social justice work in the world - Why accepting all of ourselves is important for the creative process - The difference between "self-compassion" and "being nice" - The physiological upside to fierce self-compassion - What to do when you aren’t creating regularly
June 15, 2021
9 | Grace Harry: Why Joy Is Essential For Creativity
From the outside, Grace Harry looked like she was living a dream life. A top executive at Def Jam records, married to Usher, hobnobbing with some of the world's most powerful voices in arts and culture, Grace was a powerhouse of creative collaboration and making music happen.  But she wasn't happy. Deep down, she wasn't listening to her desires. Gracereinvented her life, leaving behind much of what made her well-known and paid the bills, and she makes her living as a "Joy Strategist." It may sound "woo-woo," but after talking to Grace, you will see how creating intention around what brings us joy is essential. In this episode, we also discuss: How connecting to our childhood can give us a barometer for our creative future How to connect to our inner desires and inner dialogue Why we need to “feel it to heal it” How our spiritual life connects to our creative life. How to transform victim power into creative power How to transform people-pleasing
June 8, 2021
8 | Elizbeth Hargrave: Turn Your Yearnings Into Creativity
Elizabeth Hargrave is one of the world's most respected tabletop game designers, and her bestselling, award-winning board game "Wingspan" came out of a simple desire: she was tired of playing games that wasn't about trolls, castles, and zombies. So guess what? She created her own, and it's about ornithology. Yep, birds. There is so much to learn about this act of defiance. If we yearn for something, chances are, MANY people do too. Elizabeth has since published three games and she's built a beautiful community around her work. We also discussed: - Why creating board games is inherently vulnerable (and what we can learn from that) - Why all notes are valuable if we search for "the note under the note" - How we can use our creative passions to champion social justice - How to champion minority voices in your creative field  Enjoy The Show!
June 1, 2021
7 | Christa Couture: Transforming Trauma Into Creative Inspiration
Have you ever been told to "everything happens for a reason" or "things will get better in time" when something truly awful has happened to you? Singer/songwriter and author of How to Lose Everything Christa Couture can relate. Christa has an advanced degree in loss: the loss of her leg to cancer as a child, the lost of two children in their infancy, the loss of a marriage, and temporarily, her voice to thyroid cancer. How she could possibly be creative after such life-shattering tragedy? That's what we explore in this grace-filled conversation. We also discussed: - How to take the leap into our work when we're feeling blocked. - How Christa turned her amputation into art - Christa's philosophies on "person-first" language around disability - Her brief stint in film school - How she channels her indigenous roots into her creative and spiritual life Christa's book HOW TO LOSE EVERYTHING can be found anywhere books are sold:,How%20to%20Lose%20Everything%3A%20A%20Memoir%20about%20Losing%20My%20Children,and%20My%20Voice%20Kindle%20Edition&text=Christa%20Couture%20has%20come%20to,a%20powerful%20and%20wise%20emotion Check Out My Creativity Ebook!:
May 25, 2021
6 | Angeline Boulley: Finding Self-Trust In Your Creativity & Journey
Do you feel like it's too late for your creative desires? For Angeline Boulley, her first major creative success came in her mid-50s, with her debut novel The Firekeeper's Daughter. In addition to debuting at #1 on the New York Times, being optioned by the Obama's for a Netflix TV adaptation, and being chosen for Reese Witherspoon's book club, the novel is celebrated for its honest and multi-layered portrayal of modern indigenous life.  How did Angeline become such a literary lightning rod, especially at an age where many may given up? She trusted herself. She trusted her artistic voice, the long journey it took, and never let "time anxiety" get the best of her. Instead, she trusted herself to create the art that would be born when it was ready. If you're feeling stuck, or like it's too late, or you are too old, or are anyway wondering "why bother?" This is the conversation for you!
May 18, 2021
5 | Morgan Harper Nichols: Knowing, Embracing, & Honoring Your Audience
Morgan Harper Nichols wears many creative hats beautifully - poet, author, musician, self-taught illustrator, and entrepreneur. And like most of my guests, she has walked a wild and twisty road to find her current creative success.  After struggling as a touring musician and freelancer, Morgan channeled her "hitting the bottom" moment into illustrated poetry that was an immediate surprise hit with girls and young women. Even though it wasn't her "immediate plan" for her creative life, she listened to what was happening, followed it, built on it, and is now one of Instagram's most popular illustrated creators. Morgan's work resonates strongly with adolescent girls - so why was her immediate reaction to turn away from that audiencece? And when did Morgan start to earn a great living and support her family? We cover that and lots more! But what's most delightful about this episode is Morgan's heart. Get ready to fall in love with how Morgan Harper Nichols creates out loud!
May 11, 2021
4 | Pixar Story Experts On Saying Yes To Your Creative Calling
What would it take for you to turn down an offer from JJ Abrams (you know the guy who created Lost among other block-busters)? Ask Meg LeFavue, the Oscar-nominated writer of Inside Out, who had to do just that after committing to her creative calling to become a screenwriter. Meg LeFauve and her frequent writing partner and podcast co-host Lorien McKenna get extremely candid about the challenges and essential importance of committing to your artistic path and sticking with it. Listen in as we discuss questions around creative time management, balancing multiple creative projects, when and how to send out drafts of your work, how to take notes, and why failure is an essential part of the creative process.  I hope you'll get as much out of this conversation as I did. What these tenacious creators said changed my view of writing and creating in a big wonderful way!
May 4, 2021
3 | Anne-Laure Le Cunff: Releasing Creative Anxiety
Anne-Laure Le Cunff is an entrepreneur, and an ex-Googler turned neuroscience student who is leading the conversation around creative anxiety, mental wellness in our modern age, the delicate balance between productivity and creativity, and how we can use technology to make the world better. In today's amazing conversation, we talk releasing ourselves from the pressure or time anxiety, how to align our creative desires with our professional goals, and yes, even how to make money as a creative.
April 27, 2021
2 | Rissi Palmer: Be Your Own Creative Gatekeeper & Save YOURSELF
If anyone understands "creative Rock Bottom," it's Award-winning singer-songwriter Rissi Palmer. After a top-charting, well-received debut album, Rissi entered a vicious court battle with her label, leading her to bankruptcy. After the heartbreak of seeing her own music video playing in the record store at the mall across from the retail store where she was working, Rissi knew it was time to take matters into her own hands. Rissi committed to creating out loud on her OWN terms. Now Rissi is one of country music's most important voices, not only with her music, but her activism in the community. Her partnership with Apple Music lifts BIPOC voices in the music community through her radio show "Color Me Country."  I hope Rissi will inspire you to choose yourself lie she did me.
April 20, 2021
1 | Anne Lamott: Prayers, Love and Generosity for Your Creativity
Anne Lamott is one of our most celebrated creative and spiritual leaders, and for good reason. With 9 bestselling fiction and non-fiction books, including Bird By Bird which many celebrated creatives consider the best book about writing ever written, Anne's one of the wisest teachers about the creative life and definitely one of the funniest. In this episode, Anne offers you prayer, honesty, and ideas on how to change the channel from the critic to the creator. She shares that creative expression is one of the most generous acts we can offer to both ourselves and the people around us. It's not just valuable, it's essential. I hope this conversation inspires you to create out loud! Thanks for tuning into Create Out Loud! If you liked today's episode, PLEASE leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, and you can email us with feedback or topic suggestions at We'll see you next TUESDAY w/ award-winning singer-songwriter and host of Color Me Country Rissi Palmer.
April 13, 2021
Trailer: Create Out Loud
Do you have an inner-voice begging you to tap into your creativity, yearning to create, and for years, you've been telling it no? Or maybe creativity IS a part of your life and livelihood, and you still get scared, you still get stuck. Whoever you are, it's time for YOU to Create Out Loud. Welcome to Create Out Loud: Conversations w/ Creative People, hosted by bestselling author and creativity mentor Jennifer Louden. Every week, Jen will be chatting with some of the world's most interesting, thoughtful, quirky, and successful creatives about their process. We'll talk about elements like craft and routine, but we'll EVEN get into the awkward nitty-gritty questions, like how to make money. Every week, we'll be featuring award-winning novelists like Anne Lamott, to Oscar-nominated screenwriters like Meg LeFauve, to musicians like award-winning country singer Rissi Palmer, but the unifying thread tying ALL of our guests is the vow that they've made to Create Out Loud!  Our first episode drops on April 13th featuring award-winning novelist Anne Lamott, so make sure you're subscribed. 
March 18, 2021