Inner Circle Jerx

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Topics Covered:

• Silver Age Update (Link: https://wizkids.com/heroclix/2024/01/11/silver-age-2024-announcements)
• Blue Beetle Movie Talk
• ALL THE QUESTIONS
• Contractually Obligated Wrestling Talk

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

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Music by Eric Matyas

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Topics Covered:

• We talk The Marvels (and some Loki) spoilers. Spoiler talk starts at 19:15 and ends at 35:30
• Joe did TWO Wheels of Vengeance pre-releases, so we talk about that
• Wheels of Vengeance Ups and Downs
• New Solicit: Free Comic Book Day Harley Quinn (talk to your local stores if you want her)

• Ginger Question of the week: If you were asked to play a hero and villain from Marvel and DC, who would you want it to be?
• Listener Questions!
• Contractually Obligated Wrestling Talk

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

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You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

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Topics Covered:

• Ares did a Wheels of Vengeance pre-release, and we talk Wheels
• New Solicit: Next Phase Pizza Parties!
• Peanut/Extended Base Rules Update
• Ginger Question of the week: Permadeath for a hero and a villain in comics. Who you killin?
• Listener Questions!
• Contractually Obligated Wrestling Talk
• Bonus! Joe crushes Ares' wrestling dream

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

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Topics Covered:

• We knock off the Pod rust
• Little wrestling talk
• Joe's Trip to Worlds (plus an announcement!)
• Notorious Discussion
• PSAs: Wheels of Vengeance Release Date (11.8.23) and White Shirt Porters still available on the Wizkids Store
• Ginger Question of the week: DCU/MCU Fan swap casting
• Listener Questions!

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clix Nexus⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus

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You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

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Topics Covered:

• Star Wars talk!
• Rotation and all that entails
• Some World's Talk
• Questions!
• AEW All In Results and discussion as well as remembering Terry Funk (Forever, Forever, Forever) and Bray Wyatt

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clix Nexus⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus

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You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

Topics Covered:

• Ares has another rant.
• Set Announcements: Iconix - Sherlock Holmes, Peacemaker, First Appearance of Wolverine; Marvel Studios Next Phase; Deadpool Weapon X
• New Product: Chase Boosters
• Some Gen-Con talk
• Monthly OP upgrade (Gotham Villains, Young Justice)
• Questions including: Mt. Rushmore/Hall of Shame for Clix, Excitement, new Wizkids Heroclix Social Media

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clix Nexus⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus

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Thank you for getting us to over 1,000 plays!

Topics Covered:

• Ares Reviews Connecticut States
• Joe talks about the "Price Push Back"
• SO MANY QUESTIONS
• Also wrestling talk. It's in the contract.

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

Topics Covered:

• Joe's Origin Review
• Joe's Highlander Pulp Review
• Some quick Ontario Provincials talk
• World's dates (all details can be found at heroclixworlds.com)
• Review Gen-Con/World's Prizing
• Give a reality check to the community
• Touch on the WGA/SAG strikes

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ : https://linktr.ee/dishinupclix

You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860⁠⁠⁠⁠)

Topics Covered:

• New Starter Solicits
• How would we change Legacy Cards
• Avengers 60th: Ups and Downs
• Ginger Question of the week: Best Comic Movie/TV show soundtrack with special Ginger Guest
• Pulp Clarifications
• Questions
• Wrestling Talk
• And a lot of side talk, because we're gabby guys

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860⁠⁠⁠)

Topics Covered:

• Huntington's Final Counts
• Smacktalk
• Scott Porter Figure Controversy!
• Thanos Iconix
• Ginger Question of the week: Recast a Batman movie (or trilogy, I guess) using every actor that has been in a Batman movie/show
• New Formats
• New Distributors
• D+ Next Phase, Hellfire Gala 2, GotG Holiday Special
• Wrestling talk

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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Disclaimer: the views and opinions expressed by Ares and Joe are their own, and do not represent anyone else. Which should be obvious, but some people need to be reminded, I guess?

Topics Covered:

• Ares' Rampage
• Trade Sob Stories
• "Announcements"
• Beyond Amazing "Highlight Reel"
• ICJ Question from Will Holland: How would you make Commons/Uncommons better?
• Ginger Question of the Week: Pick a character from media to get their perfect revenge. Who is it and what is that revenge?
• Set Announcements: Iconix - Double Identity, Knightfall, Batman and Robin, Death of Superman
• Royal Flush Super Sized OP kit

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

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Check out our linktr.ees: ⁠⁠⁠

⁠Clix Nexus⁠⁠ : https://linktr.ee/clixnexus ⁠⁠⁠

⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠⁠ : https://linktr.ee/dishinupclix

You can also write into the show at Aresedge2626@gmail.com

Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (⁠https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860⁠)

Topics Covered:

• Pre-Releases: Why have them? What have they become?
• Nexus Question from Christian Palma: What do we think about set collation, how to add value, quality control and how to "fix it"
• Ginger Question of the Week: Name a comic character that you think would be more interesting if they were gender swapped.
• Talk about the return of Monthly OP kits
• Quick wrestling talk

If we receive 100 5 star reviews on Spotify, Ares will open up and chew 37 year old bubble gum from a "Little Shop of Horros" card pack.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

⁠Dishin' Up Clix⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix

⁠Clix Nexus⁠ - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus

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Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860)

Topics Covered:

• Questions! So many questions!
• Ant-Man and Wasp: Quantumania Talk (We talk spoilers and warn you about it. It's safe to listen at 1:25:00 again)
• Ginger Question of the Week: If you were playing for a World Championship and could build from a brick of any set, what set would that be?
• Is Heroclix a competitive game?

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

Dishin' Up Clix - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix Clix Nexus - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus  Check out our linktr.ees: Clix Nexus : https://linktr.ee/clixnexus Dishin' Up Clix : https://linktr.ee/dishinupclix

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We did better, everybody! Hooray, us!

Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860)

Topics Covered:

• Power Play
• Breaking New Ground
• Ginger Question of the Week: What unadapted comic book would you want to adapt into a movie? And what fresh star would you like to star in it? 

Want to read Joe's comic? You can get a copy over at DriveThruComics

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

Dishin' Up Clix - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix
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We'll do better next time...

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I guess this is a thing we do now.

Topics Covered:

• Terrain Update
• Map Update
• Iconix Solicits and Discussions
• Ginger Question of the Week: What movie blazed the path for modern comic book movies?
• Patreon Questions

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

Dishin' Up Clix - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix
Clix Nexus - https://www.patreon.com/clixnexus

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Remember, we want all constructive feedback. Just be nice. We're sensitive artists.

Theme Credit: N.M.E. the Illest "Hold the Applause" (https://www.facebook.com/nmetheillest860)

Welcome one and all to the inaugural episode of the Inner Circle Jerx.

Topics Covered:

• ID cards in Silver Age
• Equipment Rules Changes
• Other Rules Changes
• What sets we'd like
• Ethical trading

Corrections Department: Joe refers to the Samurai Rabbit that teams up with the Turtles as Oroku Saki. Joe meant to say Usagi Yojimbo. Oroku Saki is, of course, the real name of the Shredder.

You can support the show by signing up for either of our Patreons (or both! Both is good)

Dishin' Up Clix - https://www.patreon.com/DishinUpClix
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There will be more plugs here eventually because Joe can't help himself...