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Making Sense of Martech

Making Sense of Martech

By Juan Mendoza

Making sense of Martech (MSoM) is an irregular set of interviews with some of the most interesting people working in marketing and technology. This podcast is an extension of The Martech Weekly newsletter by going deeper into the most popular topics covered there. You can subscribe at themartechweekly.com
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#016 | Experimentation and the ROI myth

Making Sense of Martech Nov 28, 2021

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TMW Case Study #001 | Scaling Martech QA with computer vision and robots

TMW Case Study #001 | Scaling Martech QA with computer vision and robots

Welcome to our very first TMW case study! Kicking off this series, we’re featuring Rappi, the Latin American super-app that connects consumers with merchants that sell a wide variety of products, and drivers that can bring those products to their doorstep. The three-sided business is not only a logistical challenge, but also a Martech challenge.


Rappi’s array of marketing campaigns and offers, driven by a sophisticated deep-linking strategy, is crucial to its success. It did, however, lead to the need for an impossibly large amount of QA to ensure the successful delivery of customer experience workflows, ensuring that would-be customers don’t fall off their buying journey at any point, from clicking on an ad through to landing in the app and making a purchase.


Leading the Martech and Adtech practice at Rappi is Satya Ramachandran, who brings over 12 years of Martech experience to the table, having previously worked as a data engineer building distributed databases. 


In this case study, we’ll walk through how Satya not only scaled the Martech QA process using computer vision and robots, but turned QA into a profit-driving initiative with champions throughout the business, rather than just a cost center.


Satya’s responses have been edited for clarity and congruency.


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Mar 29, 202401:26:15
Making Sense of Martech Special Announcement

Making Sense of Martech Special Announcement

Making Sense of Martech's very own Juan Mendoza on looking ahead to the rest of 2024

Feb 06, 202403:46
#66 | Tim Mason & Sarah Jarvis on the case for Omnichannel

#66 | Tim Mason & Sarah Jarvis on the case for Omnichannel

A conversation with Tim Mason & Sarah Jarvis from Eagle Eye.

In this episode we’re joined by Tim Mason and Sarah Jarvis . Tim is the CEO of Eagle Eye, a leading loyalty and personalization platform and a top 10 TMW 100 global innovator. Tim has spent more than 30 years building loyalty strategies in retail, including working as the Deputy CEO and CMO of Tesco UK PLC. Sarah Jarvis is a senior marketer, also at Eagle Eye, and a regular contributor to Forbes UK. Both are the authors of the recently released 2nd edition of Omnichannel Retail: How to Build Winning Stores in a Digital World.

In this episode, we delve into the multifaceted concept of Omnichannel, exploring its definition, and we hear Tim and Sarah’s case for its importance. We also discuss the ethical considerations businesses face in the pursuit of omniscient customer knowledge, offering insights into responsible practices amid growing data privacy concerns. Additionally, we explore successful examples of companies implementing omnichannel strategies and examine the challenges organizations encounter when introducing omnichannel to their businesses, along with strategies to overcome internal hurdles.


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Jan 23, 202401:12:41
#65 | Rohit Maheswaran on the shifting sands of attribution

#65 | Rohit Maheswaran on the shifting sands of attribution

Jan 02, 202449:15
#64 | Cory Munchbach on the life of a Martech CEO
Dec 19, 202301:05:47
#63 | Chris Baker on the promise and peril of Generative AI for marketing

#63 | Chris Baker on the promise and peril of Generative AI for marketing

A conversation with Chris Baker.

In this episode we’re joined by Chris Baker. Chris is the founder of Totem, a brand strategy, marketing, data and innovation consultancy with a focus on the Chinese market. Totem helps global brands break into China and Asia and works with marketing leadership on digital and brand strategy.  In a recent presentation of Etail Asia, Chris gave one of the clearest views on how generative AI is impacting the marketing industry.

In this conversation, we’ll talk about his perspectives on Generative AI from looking at how it affects small and large businesses to how it's impacting content quality, and how you should build a defensible brand strategy in an environment where anyone can make content and scale it up effortlessly with Generative AI… See timestamps below.


Timestamps


(0:16) Guest intro

(05:19) Marketing data opportunities in China and Asia

(19:27  ) Role of marketers and rise of generative AI

(26:10) Adoption of Generative AI in Entreprise and SME 

(37:24) trust in the uprising technologies for say mission critical work

(50:14) Defensible brand strategy in the new era of content creation powered by generative AI





Dec 19, 202301:01:19
#62 | Lauren Maffeo on designing data governance for good

#62 | Lauren Maffeo on designing data governance for good

A conversation with Lauren Maffeo.

In this episode we’re joined by Lauren Maffeo. Lauren is an award-winning service designer working full-time at Steampunk where she serves the U.S. federal government. She is a founding editor of Springer’s AI and Ethics Journal and an adjunct lecturer of Interaction Design at The George Washington University. Lauren has written for Harvard Data Science ReviewFinancial Times, and The Guardian. She has also presented her research on bias in AI at Princeton and Columbia Universities, Google DevFest DC, and Twitter’s San Francisco headquarters and is the author of Designing Data Governance from the Ground Up.

In this episode we talk about the societal impact of data governance, the link between human-centered design and managing data in a company, the anti-patterns in data management, the importance of culture in breaking down data silos, balancing transparency with security, the link between data quality and misinformation and many other topics… See timestamps below.


Timestamps
Time Topic
(0:11)  Guest intro
(10:50)  Incentives to data the practice of data governance/management
(21:47) The anti-patterns in data management
(27:27) Discussion around techno optimism
(34:20) the importance of culture in breaking down data silos
(44:06) Balancing transparency with security
(50:34) The Link between data governance and misinformation
(53:33) Importance of data quality & governance on commerciality such as generative AI


Nov 14, 202301:03:02
#61 | Ari Paparo on the fool’s errand of media

#61 | Ari Paparo on the fool’s errand of media

A conversation with Ari Paparo.


In this episode we’re joined by Ari Paparo the famous host of the very popular Marketecture Podcast and the CEO and founder of LaunchScience, a newly launched (pardon the pun) startup in the category of process management for GTM and product teams. Prior to these two new ventures, Ari founded and exited Adtech platform Beeswax to Comcast and worked stints at Google, Nielsen, and AppNexus.
In this conversation, we speak about the overlap between the Adtech and finance industry, antipatterns in product launches, the fool's errand of software businesses doing media, the surprising second-order effects hitting Adtech in the shift to a more private web, and how Ari feels about all the negative press directed towards the Adtech industry. See timestamps below.



Timestamps

Time Topic
(0:21)  Guest intro
(10:50)  The overlap between the Adtech and finance industries
(17:59) Launch Science and anti patterns in product launches
(38:35) The fool’s errand of software businesses doing media
(50:56) The surprising second-order of effects hitting Ad tech Industry in the shift to a more private web
(59:53) Ari’s thoughts on the negative press towards ad tech industry

Oct 24, 202301:15:42
#60 | Juan Mendoza talks with Kerry Guard on The Digital Marketing Rennaissance
Oct 17, 202301:07:49
#59 | Eric Seufert: Everything is an Ad network

#59 | Eric Seufert: Everything is an Ad network

A conversation with Eric Seufert.


In this episode, I’m joined by Eric Seufert to talk about his thesis-slash-catch phrase “everything is an ad network.” Eric is a successful entrepreneur, investor and media founder who is focused on the intersection of mobile apps and Adtech.

Eric worked a number of Adtech roles in Europe which led him to founding and exiting analytics platform for mobile developers Agamemnon. He is now investing in companies in the Adtech space with Heracles Capital and runs the deeply respected and always interesting Mobile Dev Memo.

In this episode, we talk about Adtech branching out into all kinds of new commerce, retail, and platform media channels, Europe’s role in the development of mobile apps and gaming, what will happen to the web if Eric’s catchphrase “everything is an ad network” becomes a reality, privacy and the threat of walled gardens, whether or not programmatic has a future, media power laws, the 1% of ad networks and many other topics…

Oct 10, 202356:59
#58 | Gareth Noonan the rise of the B2B Adtech paradigm

#58 | Gareth Noonan the rise of the B2B Adtech paradigm

A conversation with Gareth Noonan.


In this episode we’re joined by a leader in the world of B2B adtech and martech, someone whose expertise has truly left an indelible mark, Gareth Noonan.

Gareth Noonan is an accomplished General Manager at Demandbase, recognized for spearheading international cross-functional teams in Sales, CX, and Operations. With a track record of steering business units to generate over $150M in revenue, Gareth's proficiency extends to Programmatic Strategy, Operations, Sales, Business Development, and Product management. He's an expert in mobile app and desktop video, OTT, native, and display advertising across all screens.

Gareth has held prominent positions at leading industry players. He served as the General Manager for Americas at Smaato, driving impactful strategies in the Adtech landscape. As the SVP of Operations at AdFormics, Gareth contributed to their success for nearly three years, showcasing his strategic prowess. Currently, Gareth is the GM of Advertising at Demandbase.

In this episode, we discuss the journey of building Demandbase's demand-side platform and their pivotal shifts in Adtech thinking, the challenge of adapting B2C-centric Adtech to the intricate B2B landscape, the significance of a B2B-specific DSP for Account-Based Marketing strategies, the concept of the "dark funnel" in marketing and its impact on B2B campaigns and lastly, we explore the rise of Connected TV in the B2B realm.


Oct 03, 202349:24
#57 | Bobby Tichy & Michael Burton on hyper specializing in the stack

#57 | Bobby Tichy & Michael Burton on hyper specializing in the stack

In this episode, we’re joined by Bobby Tichy and Michael Burton, co-founders at Stitch. Both Bobby and Michael are well-respected within the martech industry, bringing a unique perspective to customer engagement, CX, tech stacks, and the martech industry overall.

Bobby Tichy is a veteran of two of the most well-respected brands in martech, Marketo and Salesforce, where he led and supported implementations for many big brands. After his time with those two companies, Bobby moved onto Lev, a Salesforce consultancy, before the company was acquired in 2022 by Cognizant. At that point, Bobby teamed up with Michael to co-found Stitch, a martech consultancy that focuses on Braze and MarTech architecture. Now in his role as Chief Solutions Officer, Bobby leads the company’s solutions team, and loves to talk about martech architecture, customer engagement platforms, the customer journey, and more.

Michael Burton is also a veteran of Salesforce who has worked at several other companies, including ExactTarget, which went on to be acquired by Salesforce. After leaving Salesforce, he also made his way over to Lev, where he rose up the ranks from Senior Director to SVP to CEO, the position he held when the company was acquired. Now serving as the CEO of Stitch, Michael is continuing to focus on building and scaling professional services for marketing technology. His areas of expertise include meaningful metrics, customer engagement, CX, and the martech industry as a whole.

In this conversation, we dive into going through the process of a company acquisition, implementing the right martech stack, CX strategy, Stitch’s partnership with Braze, and a look to the future of martech.

Sep 12, 202359:59
#56 | Michaela Aguilar on the Martech buying problem and the role of education

#56 | Michaela Aguilar on the Martech buying problem and the role of education

In this episode we have Michaela Aguilar. Michaela is the head of business partnerships and ecosystems at Acoustic, a customer engagement platform company. Most recently Michaela has been leading a new Martech course with ADMA here in Australia called the Marketing Technology Certificate. Michaela also works as a Mentor at not for profit group Women in Data, and has a long and storied career in customer experience optimisation and analytics.

In this episode, we talk about the connection between education and Martech utilization, solving some of the education problems in the Martech industry in Australia, and how marketers should be thinking about and buying tech.


Sep 05, 202359:02
#55 | Josh Manion on Data Assurance and privacy-positive tech in Martech & Adtech

#55 | Josh Manion on Data Assurance and privacy-positive tech in Martech & Adtech

A conversation with Josh Manion.


In this episode we have Josh Manion joining us. Josh is the CEO of Vault JS, and previously worked as the founder of Ensighten, and the CEO Stratigent, both successful companies in the analytics, Adtech and data management space. Vault JS offers an advanced AI solution that continually scans data collection technologies in brands and alerts teams to suspicious activity, data leaks or accidental sharing with third parties. something they call “data assurance”.

In this episode we talk aboutVaultJS’ approach to building privacy-positive tech in the Martech and Adtech space, what data assurance is, data leakage horror stories, and the current state of data monitoring in the Martech industry.

Aug 29, 202341:52
#54 | Adam Furness on the resurgence of affiliate marketing, and doing content partnerships at scale

#54 | Adam Furness on the resurgence of affiliate marketing, and doing content partnerships at scale

A conversation with Adam Furness.


In this episode I have Adam Furness joining me. Adam is the Asia Pacific managing director for Impact.com, a platform for managing partnerships, content collaborations, and affiliate marketing. Impact is one of the few platforms solely focused on Partnership Automation Technology, by helping businesses grow through creating better media buying decisions and managing partner lifecycles.

Adam is also the co-chair of UnLtd, a social purpose organization connecting the media, marketing, and creative industries with charities and helping children and young people at risk.

In this episode, we talk about the return of the affiliate, and how privacy pressures on the digital marketing industry are bringing about a renewed interest in partnerships, affiliate marketing, and new ways to scale up content marketing efforts with influencers, bloggers, content creators, and publishers.

Aug 22, 202345:60
#53 | Alexandra Theriault on intersection of martech & adtech and the role of first-party data in a post third-party-cookie world

#53 | Alexandra Theriault on intersection of martech & adtech and the role of first-party data in a post third-party-cookie world

A conversation with Alexandra Theriault.


In this episode, we have Alexandra Theriault, the chief growth officer at Adtech company Lotame. Alexandra has been working with Lotame for more than 15 years, playing several key roles in the company as it has grown into an international Adtech player.

Lotame plays a key role in advertising and increasingly in the Martech industry through its widely used cookieless Panorama ID , data marketplace and recently announced Spherical platform, a CDP accelerator. Complementary to the CDP and accelerating that into Adtech use cases.

In this episode, we talk about why Lotame has decided to step into the Martech world with the Spherical platform, the role of first-party data in a post third-party-cookie world, how identity is changing in Adtech and if we’ll start to see a divergence or paid and owned focused CDPs.

Aug 15, 202301:08:12
#52 | Rajan Kumar on why companies fail to get the most out of Martech

#52 | Rajan Kumar on why companies fail to get the most out of Martech

A conversation with Rajan Kumar.


In this episode, we have Rajan Kumar, CEO and cofounder of The Lumery. He’s an unusual guest because not too long ago Raj was my boss! It’s a pleasure to have Raj on to talk about their latest research entitled Stacks on Stacks on Stacks - The Voices of Martech. Raj has pioneered a unique approach to MarTech consulting, combining the optimization of tech stacks with the development of clients’ internal capabilities, processes, and data-driven cultures, ensuring lasting outcomes can be achieved. Rajan is passionate about building high-performance teams through supportive culture and loves collaborating with forward thinkers.

In this episode we talk about the “Ferrari in the garage” problem in Martech, how leaders in enterprise brands thinking about investing into Martech, coordination problems in Martech, the path to progress, and the influence of personal ambition when buying and using Martech.


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Aug 08, 202301:01:45
#51 | Shoshana Wodinsky on the perils of privacy in a world of ad networks

#51 | Shoshana Wodinsky on the perils of privacy in a world of ad networks

Aug 01, 202347:08
#50 | Roger Dunn on the rise of retail media and navigating the trade-offs between ads and experience with online commerce

#50 | Roger Dunn on the rise of retail media and navigating the trade-offs between ads and experience with online commerce

Jul 11, 202357:29
#49 | Jay Sanderson on Composable CDP and DXP, AI and new interfaces for building CX, and leading edge personalisation

#49 | Jay Sanderson on Composable CDP and DXP, AI and new interfaces for building CX, and leading edge personalisation

A conversation with Jay Sanderson.

In this episode I’m joined by Jay Sanderson. He’s the senior manager of product marketing for Progress digital experience. Progress enables customers to develop the applications and experiences they need, deploy where and how they want and manage it all safely and securely. Hundreds of thousands of enterprises, including 1,700 software companies and 3.5 million developers, depend on Progress everyday to deploy customer experiences.

Jay has worked across companies such as Sitecore, AT&T and Thomson Reuters. After moving from development and technical roles into the world of digital marketing, he quickly realised the need for data-driven decision-making and new ways to leverage mar-tech platform features to achieve growth and becoming an advocate.

In this episode we talk about the changing category of digital experience platforms, how Jay approaches and defines composability in the CDP and DXP space, Generative AI and the new interfaces for building CX, and what the leading edge of personalisation looks like for the enterprise.


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Jun 28, 202301:02:51
#48 | Michelle Songy on the problem with PR, building a media marketplace and getting publicity

#48 | Michelle Songy on the problem with PR, building a media marketplace and getting publicity

A conversation with Michelle Songy.


In this episode, I’m joined by Michelle Songy. Michelle is a startup founder, company executive and innovator in the space of media and technology. Michelle is the founder and CEO of Press Hook one of the first media relations platforms that connects media to brands and publicists at scale. Prior to founding Press Hook, Michelle founded Cake, a mobile payments platform for restaurants that was acquired by American Express. Michelle has also worked in finance at Coca-Cola and is an investor with a variety of funds.


In this episode, we talk about the problem of public relations, why companies want media attention, building a two-sided marketplace in media, what journalists really want and the impact of generative AI tools on the media industry.


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Jun 13, 202301:01:37
#47 | Jana Marle-Zizkova on women in Martech, product vs movement building, skills shortages and technical leadership

#47 | Jana Marle-Zizkova on women in Martech, product vs movement building, skills shortages and technical leadership

A conversation with Jana Marle-Zizkova.


In this episode, I’m joined by Jana Marle-Zizkova, an avid data and diversity advocate, CEO of Customer Data Platform Meiro and the co-founder of She loves Data, a global non-for-profit. Since 2016 over 15,000 women have attended 200+ free data & tech workshops, certification programs, and webinars. She Loves Data has chapters in 17 countries on 5 continents. In 2019, She Loves Data received the “Diversity Initiative Award in Asia” by Women in IT.


Jana is also a volunteering mentor of a non-commercial projects for future female leaders My Odyssey & Women in Business (National University of Singapore) and she collaborates with the European Women on Boards on the C-level program. As someone with passion for uncharted territories Jana circumnavigated the world on a 38ft sailboat between 2003-2005.


In this episode, we talk about women in Martech, Jana’s journey with building SLD, intimidation and skills building, helping women find economic opportunity, technical leadership and aspiration, movement market fit and how NFP organizations play a role in the wider Martech landscape.


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May 30, 202359:23
#46 | Tom Goodwin on progress and pessimism in marketing and technology

#46 | Tom Goodwin on progress and pessimism in marketing and technology

A conversation with Tom Goodwin.


In this episode we have Tom Goodwin joining us. If you work in marketing, advertising or tech he probably needs no introduction. Tom is an international keynote speaker, the author of Digital Darwinism, the co-founder of consultancy ALL WE HAVE IS NOW, a TV presenter, and a regular contributor for The Guardian, TechCrunch, and Forbes, GQ, Ad Age, Wired, Ad Week, Inc, MediaPost and Digiday.


In this episode we talk about progress and pessimism, how we should critique new technologies, hype exhaustion, what limits progress, working with change, and how our history should inform our present and future.


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May 16, 202301:10:09
#45| Myles Younger on the convergence of Adtech and Martech

#45| Myles Younger on the convergence of Adtech and Martech

A conversation with Myles Younger.


In this episode, we have Myles Younger. Myles is the Head of Innovation & Insights at U of Digital, an AdTech focused education firm. Prior to joining U of Digital. Myles’ nearly 20 year career in advertising has spanned every facet of the business, from his time in client-side marketing, to his experience as an ad tech founder and product leader, to his experience inside the world of agencies and consulting. Most recently Myles was VP Go-to-Market, Data at Media.Monks and prior to that he founded the Canned Banners dynamic ads platform which was acquired by Thunder in 2017. Writing and speaking frequently on digital media & advertising topics, Myles is a regular contributor to industry publications such as Adweek, AdExchanger, and AdMonsters.


In this episode Myles and I speak about… convergence of advertising and marketing tools, how third-party cookies are radically changing the industry, educational challenges in the industry and how AdTech can shake off its increasingly negative perception.


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May 02, 202301:00:35
#44| Ross Candido on the social stack and the evolution of social listening

#44| Ross Candido on the social stack and the evolution of social listening

A conversation with Ross Candido.


Today I’m joined by Ross Candido. Ross is the VP of ANZ and SEA at Meltwater a leading media monitoring & social analytics platform. Meltwater offers a suite of solutions that spans media, social, consumer, and sales intelligence. By analysing ~1 billion pieces of content each day and transforming them into vital insights, Meltwater provides competitive intelligence and consumer insights for over 27,000 global customers across six continents. Ross has been instrumental in growing one of the longest-standing and influential media intelligence and social analytics platforms, and bringing Meltwater to new markets including South East Asia, China, UAE and South Africa, before landing his current role based out of Australia.


In this episode, we’ll talk about the social stack - all the tools that make up social marketing, public relations, and media monitoring. We talk about how social listening has evolved over time, the wide varieties of data available to companies from social channels, how insights are gained from media data, and how the way we socialise has changed.


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Apr 18, 202359:38
#43| Bryan Williams on partnership strategy, platform ecosystems and the problem of monopolies

#43| Bryan Williams on partnership strategy, platform ecosystems and the problem of monopolies

A conversation with Bryan Williams.


In this episode, I’m joined by Bryan Williams. Bryan is the founder of the newly formed firm Hockey Stick Advisory. An experienced operator in the platform ecosystem space, Bryan played a key role in building out Xero’s partnerships and application ecosystems as the former director of Ecosystem and Apps. Bryan has also served as a mentor and advisor through startup accelerator programs such as Blackbird Giants program and StartUp Vic office hours programs.


In this episode, we talk about the growing role of platform ecosystems in the marketing technology landscape and how companies are building new channels of growth, customer engagement, and partnerships. We touch on the incentives of ecosystems and their role in the broader marketing and tech industry, how ecosystems form within companies, identifying how other companies serve your customer, and the different kinds of ecosystems in the market.


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Apr 11, 202348:08
#42 | Juan Baron on data clean rooms, the privacy paradox, data and trust, and cryptography in advertising

#42 | Juan Baron on data clean rooms, the privacy paradox, data and trust, and cryptography in advertising

A conversation with Juan Baron.


In this episode, I am joined by another Juan…. Juan Baron! Juan is the Director of Business Development and Strategy for media and advertising at Decentriq. Decentriq calls itself The “Switzerland” of data that is coincidentally also headquartered in Switzerland.....


Founded in 2018, the company is inventing novel technology to enable publishers, brands, researchers, platforms, and advertisers to collaborate data in a way that ensures privacy and security. Decentriq works with companies such as Roche, Microsoft and Intel to enable more privacy-focused data collaboration and audience matching.


In a world where privacy is becoming an increasing focus across marketing and advertising, data clean rooms play an interesting role in the growth of first-party data sharing as third-party tracking is slowly becoming a thing of the past.


In this episode, we have a fascinating discussion about the privacy paradox: balancing privacy and utility, the role of trust in data collaboration & sharing, how inventions in cryptography and ML are changing the Adtech ecosystem, and the scalability of data clean rooms in an increasingly saturated market.


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Mar 14, 202352:04
#041 | Josh Alvernia on conversion APIs, climate change, and building for privacy

#041 | Josh Alvernia on conversion APIs, climate change, and building for privacy

A conversation with Josh Alvernia.


In this episode, I am joined by Joshua Alvernia, the CEO, and co-founder of Clue.


Clue is a leading data and media partner for search, social, and programmatic advertising. They help marketers interpret and transform their data into growth. Clue is a digital-native company with empowered, remote staff located around the world. Recently they did a collaborative research piece with Digiday that analyses the emergence of something called conversion APIs, a solution that fits into the evolving jigsaw puzzle of what happens to tracking and targeting once third-party cookies go away.


In this episode, Josh and I work through what Conversion APIs are, their role in online advertising, dealing with change in the advertising industry from a hands-on perspective, and how the movement toward online privacy seems very similar to climate change.


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Mar 04, 202301:01:34
#040 | Amanda Natividad on the power of audience research, zero-click content, and finding yourself in content creation

#040 | Amanda Natividad on the power of audience research, zero-click content, and finding yourself in content creation

A conversation with Amanda Natividad.


In this episode I am joined by Amanda Natividad, VP of marketing for SparkToro, a SaaS marketing company that helps people do audience research, or find out what content their audience is consuming and where they spend time online.


Amanda has a long and storied career in marketing recently heading up B2B content marketing at Fitbit along with a number of senior tech marketing roles and recently launching a course - Content Marketing 201 (https://maven.com/amandanat/content-marketing), that helps marketers take their content to the next level. Amanda also used to work in tech journalism and was a test kitchen cook!


In this episode we talked about Amanda's journey into content marketing and becoming the VP of marketing at SparkToro, how SparkToro works like a team of 10 with just 3 employees, and as well as their approach to Big Tech. We also discuss building a Twitter audience, using zero-click content as a part of content strategy, and whether it is good or not that some tech companies punish the use of links.


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Feb 06, 202351:10
#039 | Martech throughout culture
Dec 10, 202259:12
#038 | Understanding Performance Marketing
Dec 03, 202201:05:52
#037 | Debating Reverse ETL
Nov 19, 202257:14
#036 | Building Competitive Intelligence
Nov 10, 202245:21
#035 | Why you don't need Martech
Oct 31, 202244:54
#034 | Building the CDP category

#034 | Building the CDP category

A conversation with Kazuki Ohta & Mike Anderson.


In this episode I am joined by Kazuki Ohta (co-founder and CEO of Treasure Data) and Mike Anderson (the CTO and founder of Tealium) for a round table discussion to discuss the perspectives on the outlook of the CDP industry, how they're building it and the growing challenges around data, privacy, regulation, and consumer attitudes in the CDP space.


We talk about the changing role of the category in the enterprise. Why people are still mystified by the technology. The increasing privacy pressure put onto the industry and the role of the CDP when building digital capability. And we also touch on how big tech is increasingly encroaching into the market and what it means for people building CDP solutions from the ground up.


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Oct 24, 202259:17
#033 | Martech in Asia

#033 | Martech in Asia

A conversation with Neil Halliday

Neil Halliday is the event director for APAC at Big Data and AI World, focusing on Data, AI, and Martech. During Neil’s time, he has built the most successful data-focused event and conference series in APAC and an entire ecosystem around data, Martech, CX, digital transformation, AI/ML, diversity & inclusion, to drive business generation opportunities in the Asia Pacific region. Neil has also worked in a number of technology companies and is one of the best people who know the trends, innovation, and change in the marketing technology space in Asia.

In this episode, we dive into the technology industry across South East Asia and sketch out a picture of the innovation, challenges, and opportunities in the region.


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Oct 09, 202243:44
#032 | B2B media empires

#032 | B2B media empires

A conversation with Michael Adams & Melissa McCready.

In this episode I’m joined by Michael Adams and Melissa McCready. Michael is the General Manager and Melissa is the content chair at OpsStars - an online community, media and events company servicing revenue and marketing operations practitioners. Previous to OpsStars, Michael has worked across a number of roles in communications, thought leadership  and media for software companies like Cisco. Melissa is the principal at The Growth Ops community and works in the growth operations industry as an advisor and consultant.


In this episode we talk about B2B Media Empires, the growing trend of software companies building media brands to service their specific market. How OpsStars was launched by Lean Data, a revenue orchestration platform company and into the journey of building valuable media properties in niches across the marketing technology ecosystem.


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Sep 09, 202245:30
#031 | The privacy winter
Sep 04, 202259:50
#030 | The technology of attribution

#030 | The technology of attribution

A conversation with Praveen Das.


In this episode, I’m joined by Praveen Das. Praveen is the co-founder and Chief Product Officer at Factors.ai, a B2B marketing attribution and analytics software company. Praveen has a long history in the analytics space, previously leading product at InMobi, a mobile advertising company. In this discussion, we unpack the technology of marketing attribution including the increasing importance of machine learning and artificial intelligence in the marketing analytics stack, how technology companies are addressing the changing tracking and privacy landscape and the value of attribution software.


In this episode we talk about the hard problem of marketing attribution from the increasing importance of machine learning and artificial intelligence in the marketing analytics stack. How technology companies are addressing the changing context of tracking privacy and data collection, and also the value of attribution software. We further dive deeper into the highly complex topic, that is attribution.


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Aug 29, 202256:43
#029 | Evolving automated marketing

#029 | Evolving automated marketing

A conversation with Anu Shukla.


In this episode, I’m joined by Anu Shukla. Anu is a serial entrepreneur with over 20 years of high-tech industry experience having created a billion dollars of enterprise value from Martech startups. She is the Founder and CEO of RewardsPay Inc. and the Co-founder and Executive Chair of Botco.ai. Formerly, she was the Founder and CEO of Offerpal Media (aka Tapjoy, Inc. which was sold for $400 mm cash in Jan 2022), and she was the Founder and former CEO and Director of MyBuys Inc.  (formerly Rubiconsoft) a venture-backed company acquired in 2011 for  $200mm she started in 2002. Anu was the founder of Rubric, Inc one of the pioneers in Enterprise Marketing Automation 19 years ago, before the category existed. She is also a Venture Partner at Elevate.vc supporting and mentoring under-represented black, women, LatinX and other minority founders.

Ms. Shukla served on the Board of Directors of Forum for Women Entrepreneurs and Executives, International Museum of Women (IMOW.org) and the Advisory Board for the Leavey School of Business, Santa Clara University.

In this episode we talk about the wonderful world of marketing automation. Anu has seen the development of the marketing automation space for more than 20 years, building solutions and innovating right back in the 90’s. We talk about the history of automated marketing, why Anu’s all in on conversational AI, and where it’s all heading.


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Aug 17, 202256:19
#028 | Podcasting about podcasting
Jul 28, 202201:00:36
#027 | The revenue bubble
Jul 07, 202248:08
#026 | The creativity crisis
Jun 20, 202251:34
#025 | The state of SEO
Jun 10, 202246:27
#024 | Martech Day
Apr 28, 202232:50
#023 | The history of media disruption
Apr 11, 202201:00:52
#022 | The state of Martech education
Mar 27, 202241:08
#021 | Understanding open data
Mar 03, 202245:49
#20 | The three horizons of Martech

#20 | The three horizons of Martech

In this episode, I’m joined by Scott Brinker. If you’ve been working in Martech for some time, Scott needs no introduction. Affectionately called “the godfather of Martech” Scott has been a pioneer in the Martech industry. Scott currently serves as the VP of platform ecosystem at HubSpot, editor at large at Chiefmartec, holds degrees in computer science at Harvard, and is a Fellow at MIT Sloan. Scott’s also behind the now-famous Martech Landscape supergraphic, a tool that maps and categorizes more than 8,000 marketing technologies in the industry. 

In this episode, we’re talking about Scott’s perspective on Martech in 2022 as he’s recently written an article talking about three big innovation horizons in the industry: Commerce, Big Ops, and No Code.


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Feb 13, 202259:18
#019 | Leading Martech teams from the inside

#019 | Leading Martech teams from the inside

In this episode of MSoM, I’m joined by Jon Goh. Jon is a leading Martech practitioner in the APAC region, currently serving as the automation and audience lead for Medibank Australia. Jon’s career as a marketing technology team builder has spanned roles such as leading the Martech function for a number of bluechip companies across the region and guiding the establishment of marketing technology platforms for one of Australia’s largest IT companies.

He’s passionate about enabling diverse teams to deliver big projects for big brands. Today we’re talking about just that - How to establish marketing technology in an enterprise environment, what it takes to acquire and implement Martech from a practitioner’s perspective and what can we learn about building high-performing teams in an industry which is rapidly changing.

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Jan 30, 202246:28