The Space Beyond Scarce

Kate interviews educator and author Andrew Lang. They talk about:

✨ Scarcity mindset as a disconnection from our own inherent dignity.

✨ Practices for cultivating a rich inner life.

✨ The importance of depth and introspection to seeing the resources that are already available to us.

✨ The intersection of spirituality and activism for social change.

✨ Disrupting scarcity in the public school system.

And more!

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Kate interviews holistic time coach, Becca Rich. They discuss:

✨ The portal that takes us from linear "human" time to a more spacious "spiritual" sense of time.

✨ Approaches to separating time from money.

✨ How and why we should experience states of timelessness.

✨ And more!

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Kate talks to author and creative coach, Catherine LaSota. They discuss:

• How honing your authentic voice in order to find your place in a crowded creative market.
• The importance of community over competition with other artists and writers.
• The false scarcity that can be created when we view awards, grants and residencies as the only path to legitimacy as an artist.
• Mindset reframes to empower and resource your work as a writer, content creator or artist.
• And more!

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✨ Sign up for Kate's weekly newsletter, The Portal, to receive prompts and practices that accompany today's episode: https://kateholly.com/

✨ Check out Catherine's free online community for writers: https://community.theresortlic.com/

Kate interviews the award-winning musician and teacher, Gary Grundei. They talk about:

• How scarcity and limitations can support the creative process.
• Songwriting and the human voice as a portal to creating more from less.
• Why everyone has permission to write songs, even if you don't have formal training.
• How and why to prioritize creativity.
• And so much more!

Gary Grundei is an award-winning musician and teacher based in NYC. He is the founder of golden lotus studio, an online community for songwriters. Gary is well-known for his work with the band High Fiction, composing music for theater, film, and podcasts, as well as coaching and producing other artists. Gary has written music for NPR, MTV, and the ID Channel, as well as for prestigious institutions such as The Kennedy Center and New York Stage and Film. He has taught at universities such as Naropa University and Occidental College, and worked on projects with Meredith Monk, Bill Pullman, and Leigh Fondakowski. He and Amy Shelley make records under the moniker High Fiction.

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Kate interviews Rolfer and movement educator, Kat Kocurek. They discuss:

• How Kat developed the clarity and courage to leave a successful corporate marketing career to pursuing her dream of becoming a professional bodyworker.

• The ways that embodiment can help disrupt scarcity thinking.
• Kat's relationship to money mindset as someone who had "golden handcuffs", and how she shifted that thinking.
• Finding a sense of security from doing work that you want to growth with for a lifetime, rather than from a specific amount of income.
• And more!

On this solo-cast, Kate reviews some of the most common scarcity mindsets related to creativity, thought leadership and self-expression.

If you have ever worried that your ideas are not good enough, original enough, or you are not getting your work into the world fast enough to compete with the others who might have similar expertise, this episode is for you! Nourish your mind with some believable reframes and reminders so that you can keep creating your best work at your own pace and feel confident in sharing it with the world.

If you are an entrepreneur, artist, content creator, or Enneagram Type 4 (if you know, you know), you will want to give this one a listen.

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Kate interviews ICF accredited Positive Psychologist & Leadership Coach, Karma Hill.

We discuss:

• Karma's doctoral research into the impact of positive psychology coaching on workplace burnout.
• The importance of integral leadership to creating thriving workplaces.
• The top 3 signs that you may be experiencing burnout, and what to do about it.
• The influence of working remotely on burnout, and how we can prioritize "social self care" in the digital age.
• And so much more!

Whether you are an organizational leader, a small business owner, or simply wanting to avoid burning out in your life and career, you will not want to miss this episode!

Go Deeper:

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Kate interviews Anika Horn, about building collaborative ecosystems around a common cause and overcoming the scarcity mindset of competition in movements for social good.

More about this week's guest:

In this solo-cast, we are getting to know the nervous system! Kate outlines different stress responses that are influenced by scarcity mindset, and offers reframes, prompts and practices that will turn the power of the nervous system into an abundant resource.

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Kate interviews "Ritual Witch", Meghan Bursiek. They discuss:

✨ The relationship between binary thinking and scarcity mindset.

✨ How systems and spreadsheets can integrate with witchy rituals.

✨ Ways to disrupt time scarcity without adding more to your to-do list.

✨ Cultivating trust for what wants to happen.

And so much more!

Go Deeper:

Kate interviews her friend and coach trainer, Andrea Leda. 

They discuss: 

✨ How scarcity mindset is similar to/differs from general anxiety. 

✨ How our sense of entitlement and privilege differentials can influence scarcity thinking (and why sometimes entitlement can be a good thing). 

✨ Specific examples of how coaching can disrupt cycles of scarcity, including many powerful questions to ask yourself if you are having a hard time believing that you can get the resources you need. 

✨ And so much more! 

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Kate interviews Tiffany North (aka "Coach Tiffany") about her work as an intuitive eating professional, registered nurse and coach supporting people with disordered eating to find freedom and a secure attachment to food. Coach Tiffany is the creator of the Food Attachment Model, and in today's episode we discuss: 

• The scarcity mindset inherent in diet culture. 
• The importance of honoring our hunger signals and our desires. 
• The role of variety, novelty and pleasure in finding satiation, both with food and with our lives. 
• How attachment styles can show up in our relationship to food. 
• Tiffany's framework for supporting her clients to heal their relationship to food, eating and body image. 
• And so much more! 

Resources to go deeper after listening: 

Kate interviews the founders of Upbringing Collective, Hannah and Kelty. They talk about: 

• How to parent without conditioning our kids into a scarcity-driven culture. 
• Transforming our own scarcity-driven conditioning through awareness of our needs and boundaries. 
• How to model respectful, connection-driven and needs-based communication with kids, rather than repeat systems of oppression and power over. 
• Why coaching is such a powerful tool for disrupting scarcity mindset, both in parenting and in business building. 

And so much more! 

Go deeper: 

In this solo podcast, Kate offers a primer for how attachment theory might intersect with scarcity thinking, and how our attachment styles can influence the way we relate to our resources. 

References and additional resources: 

Kate talks to the director of Realise Earth, Osbert Lancaster about: 

✨ Why overcoming scarcity mindset is important to building a more sustainable future. 

✨ How to avoid burnout as someone who cares about environmental sustainability. 

✨ Examples of how people in a variety of fields can become sustainability leaders. 

✨ Creating pockets of the future in the now. 

And more! 

Go Deeper: 

Kate interviews business consultant Brooke Monaghan. They discuss: 

-Why there is no "right way" to do business.

-The link between scarcity mindset and perfectionism. 

-How to create more agency in your approach to success. 

And more! 

Resources: 

Kate interviews anti-capitalist coach and fellow podcaster, Lauren Roberts. They talk about: 

-The role of mindset coaching in working with political candidates. 

-How Lauren defines anti-capitalism and why she uses that phrase in her work. 

-The ethical nuance of money mindset work. 

And so much more! 

Additional Resources: 

In this solo episode, Kate breaks down a few of the reasons why prioritization is a vital skill to develop if we want to overcome scarcity thinking. 

Kate interviews brand strategist and founder of the Ethical Move, Alice Karolina. 

In our conversation, we talk about: 

-Building ethical businesses that are based on relationships and trust. 

-The bottom up influence of small businesses on corporate culture. 

-The role that small business owners can play in influencing policy and a more just economy. 

-The new Ethical Move community and how it came to be.

And so much more! 

Links and resources to go deeper: 

Kate interviews feminist business strategist and Harvard MBA grad, Jessica Lackey. We talk about: 

✨ What it really takes to grow a small business from scratch and how the coaching industry can tell a misleading story. 

✨ What Jessica learned at Harvard compared to what she has learned in starting her own business. 

✨ The opportunity of entrepreneurship to change hustle culture and create new ways of being in the world. 

And so much more! 

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Self-Trust can help us disrupt internalized scarcity stories and take action on building the life and world we believe in, but most of us struggle with it for good reasons. 

Today's episode offers a few "principles of trust" that will give you ideas for how you can start to live with more authentic confidence. 

Additional Resources: 

Kate talks to her friend and former collaborator, Judson Webb, about the economic and cultural differences he perceives as an American who has been living in Sweden for over a decade. 

They discuss: 

-Sweden's amazing social safety net. 

-The underlying themes of a collectivist vs. individualistic culture. 

-The economic challenges of being an artist in any culture. 

-How refusing to "sell out" might be wearing scarcity mindset as a badge of honor. 

And more! 

Today's podcast guest is well-known in the world of creative online business owners who are committed to ethics, integrity and innovation in what they do. Tara McMullin is a writer, podcaster, and producer. For over 13 years, she’s studied small business owners—how they live, how they work, what influences them, and what they hope for the future. She’s the host of "What Works", a podcast about navigating the 21st-century economy with your humanity intact. Tara is also co-founder of YellowHouse.Media, a boutique podcast production company. Her work has been featured in Fast Company, The Startup, The Muse, and The Huffington Post. Her first book, What Works: A Comprehensive Framework To Change The Way We Approach Goal Setting, will be released in November.

In this interview, Kate and Tara talk about: 

-How creativity disrupts scarcity thinking.

-How Tara ended up pivoting into talking about progressive economics and politics on her podcast for small business owners. 

-Tara's vision for a 21st century economy that would allow us to thrive with our humanity intact. 

-Tara's new book, which explores a way of approaching goal setting that disrupts hustle culture. 

And so much more! 

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This brief episode announces our new podcast schedule, as well as giving you a behind-the-scenes glimpse into Kate's process of tapping into her "scarcity meter" to decide how to proceed. 

The main points: 

-We will be switching to a bi-weekly podcast schedule. 

On this episode we explore how to live on a budget from an expansive, abundant mindset. 

Whether you have a lot of funding to work with or you are bootstrapping it, you will find some valuable takeaways in how you think about your budget. 

We cover: 

-Why there is no one "right" money mindset and a few powerful questions we can ask instead to heal our unique relationship to money. 

-How understanding the deeper purpose of our expenditures is more important than the thing itself. 

-How cutting back on expenses can sometimes unlock MORE resources. 

-A few specific examples of how to get more from less when it comes to your budget. 

Resources for deeper integration: 

Kate interviews published author, podcast host and former editor-in-chief at Yoga International, Kat Heagberg Rebar. 

Listen on for more insights on: 

-Why we should never make important decisions from "despo mode" 

-The importance of asking for help from community to get out of scarcity. 

-The power of collaboration to create more resources. 

-Kat's personal journey to accomplishing big dreams, including securing multiple book deals and launching a podcast. 

-And more! 

Go deeper with today's podcast: 

In this episode, you will learn: 

-What "money mindset" is, why it can be helpful, and how to find your power through changing your money beliefs without bypassing systemic injustice. 

-The difference between desire and greed, and why that matters in how we think about our resources. 

-The universal economic rights laid out by FDR, and why they should encourage us all to feel entitled to earn a sufficient income, AND real numbers on what you might need to aspire to in today's economy to live the quality of life FDR envisioned. 

In this solo-cast, Kate examines the sometimes paradoxical tension between meeting our own financial needs on the microeconomic level, and living up to our values and vision for what is possible in macroeconomics. 

This episode is the first in a multi-part series examining how healing our money stories is an important part of getting out of scarcity mindset. Improving your relationship to money starts by understanding how you think about it. Stay tuned over the next month as we get into money mindset work from the perspective of both personal and collective liberation. 

Referenced in this episode: 

Kate interviews dancer and founder of Dance Wire PDX, Emily Running. 

In this conversation, they explore: 

-Scarcity mindset as an invisible force 

-How creativity can help us be resourceful and overcome scarcity traps. 

-A vision for a world where artists are free from their culturally conditioned scarcity mindset. 

-And more! 

Do you ever feel hopeless or overwhelmed at the state of the world? 

In this week's solo podcast, Kate speaks to: 

-How scarcity and scarcity mindset can become a challenge specifically for people who are justice-oriented. 

-The reasons why hopelessness and complacency are dangerous self-fulfilling prophecies. 

-How to use the 8-step GENERATE method for disrupting scarcity mindset to address feelings of systemic hopelessness. 

-Content warning: The specific issue Kate works through as an example references mass shootings. 

Resources shared and referenced in this episode: 

Kate interviews Equity-inclusion Facilitator & Digital Strategist, Tristan Katz. We discuss: 

-How to practice self-trust to overcome scarcity mindset in entrepreneurship. 

-Following the thread of what feels nourishing in business. 

-Building meaningful relationships online. 

-Trans inclusion and how to avoid exploiting the generosity of online educators. 

And more! 

To go deeper with today's resources: 

Zero sum thinking has been used by right-wing politicians and media to enflame racism and xenophobia with deadly results. This podcast explores examples of how it is showing up in this week's national news, how we can recognize it in ourselves and others, and what we can do to disrupt zero sum thinking when we encounter it. 

Kate interviews business and executive coach, Michael Knouse. They discuss: 

-How Kate's work was influenced early on by Michael's podcast, The Start-Up Sessions.

-Michael's recent shift into exploring how his coaching business can be more effortless without compromising income. 

-Examples of shifting from the "zone of excellence" to the "zone of genius". 

-The importance of finding meaning in our work. 

And so much more! 

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Special Mother's Day episode! Kate discusses some of the economic and cultural reasons why mothers may experience disproportionate scarcity, and what we can do to change it.