Evergreen Thinking with Kelsee

"I'm addicted to social media. I love it and I hate it."

"Making friends as an adult is so damn hard."

These are some of the most common issues that I listen to from my therapy couch, as the majority of folks I serve are between the ages of 22-40.

My conclusion is that what we deeply desire as a generation is: INTIMACY.

Not the hot and heavy, sexual intimacy, but a sacred closeness with other humans. with FRIENDS.

We're not sure how to make new friends or sustain the existing connections we do have. And social media isn't helping like we hoped it would.

In this episode I'm bringing a new spin to the conversation around social media and adult friendships, offering some guidance based on my experience and ideas I've changed my mind about, and shedding some light on the difference between "vulnerable" sharing online versus true intimacy IRL.

I hope you love this thought provoking episode- number 50!!

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So you scheduled your first therapy appointment and you want to know what comes next. OR You're on the fence about therapy, because you aren't sure what will happen in the sessions.

Is the therapist going to make you talk about your childhood and analyze your dreams while you're laying on a couch?

The process can vary a little from therapist-to-therapist, depending on modalities being used, what issues have brought you to therapy or your therapist’s personality, but I want to tell you exactly what will GENERALLY happen if you sign up for therapy with me, from the moment you reach out to schedule, to the very last session we have together, and everything in between.

In this episode I’m gonna tell you what questions I ask on my intake form, how long therapy might take, what happens if you regress in your progress, and even what you’re paying for behind the scenes beyond the 50 minutes that we are together.

Today we are looking at a more sustainable approach to becoming your best self. This episode weaves together some practical strategies with contrarian concepts regarding the ideas of commitment and personal change.

Learn:

• How to commit to a vision rather than getting lost in the commitment to tasks.
• To build habits upon habits, 2 at a time.
• To maintain healthy habits even when life throws a curveball.
• How to tap into the "wise-mind" in order to stop bad habits.
• Why "WHY" isn't that important for initiating change.
• A better way to use sticky-notes for habit formation.
• What is a spectrum of improvement and what makes it so effective.

And remember that you still deserve to enjoy your life in the present, before you've actualized all your goals.

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Why is it so hard to find a therapist who accepts insurance?? Why is therapy so expensive?

Insurance and pricing are HOT topics amongst both therapists and clients alike.

In this short episode, I'm explaining a few reasons why some therapists (myself included) choose not to panel with insurance, and some tips on how to make therapy more affordable for yourself as a client whether you are paying with or without insurance!

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Ever wonder what's to come in the evolving world of mental health?

I'm kicking off the 2024 podcast season with an episode all about the trends that I'm expecting us to see (as both providers and consumers) regarding mental health and wellness.

I'm no psychic, but I observe a LOT in this realm and I'm sharing my top 7 predictions for what we can expect to encounter in the world of mental health. We're talking lifestyle choices, self-diagnosis, healing modalities, cultural shifts, grassroot care, who is going to be enrolling in therapy and more!

Tune in to be in the know and share what YOUR mental health predictions for 2024 are.

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I see a lot of well-intended attempts at boundary setting. And it makes me proud! Setting boundaries is tough, and for many of us recovering people-pleasers, it is even harder.

But there a crucial key that MOST folks are missing in their boundary setting: consequences. By missing this step, it is nearly impossible to enforce a boundary.

In this quick and practical episode, I'm going to walk you through my 3-step, gold-standard formula for communicating a boundary in a way that is easy to establish and even easier to enforce.

We'll pay special attention to the missing key- consequences, and get you set up this holiday season to use boundaries with confidence, whether thats with family and loved ones, or in the workplace.

In this episode I share that from Nov 20 - Nov 27 my signature e-course, Boundaries for Abundance is on SALE for 50% off!!

Welcome to the Birthday Episode!

I turned 30 years old on Oct 6 and am STOKED for this new decade. In true kelsee-fashion, I've reflected a lot on the various lessons I've learned and gifts I've recieved in my 20s.

In this episode I am *briefly* sharing 29 lessons I learned by the time I turned 30. We're talking life, love, business, family, friendship, and so much more.

Whether you are still in your twenties or reminiscing on those times, I think you'll find something of value in this episode. You may see yourself in some of my stories or take a sweet reminder of a lesson you've learned too. OR maybe I'll save you some time by sharing a new lesson with you too :)

Listen close to tip #20 for a hint about my newest coaching group program that is launching in early 2024. It is going to be a game. changer. ;)

A few resources I mentioned in the episode include:

1. My link to get a free sample pack of every flavor of LMNT (the electrolyte that has changed my life in every way).

Welcome back for another live mental health sprint coaching session!

This is one of my most popular coaching offerings and we are letting you listen in as a fly on the wall!

In todays session you'll meet Lauren Kasinger who is an independent, thirty-something, experiencing some big life transitions including making some career and education shifts. Lauren and I were high school classmates (and dance team and colorguard teammates actually!) but Lauren now lives in Florida, where she is a single mom, military veteran (thank you Lo!!!!), former body-building figure competitor, and all around one of the kindest people you'll meet.

Lauren's episode is a prime example of what it looks like to work with me in more of a maintenance mode. She has been doing a TON of personal development and growth work, and at this stage, I really get to affirm and encourage her that she is still on the right path towards greatness. You'll notice that through my questioning and comments, most of the wisdom here comes FROM Lauren TO Lauren. I am basically her professional hype woman (my favorite role to play in people's lives).

Some of the very relatable themes that we'll discuss include: what to do when your community changes, or when people close to you don’t approve of all of your decisions, how to lean into your own interests and resist people pleasing, and how to navigate being a content independent single woman amongst a community and culture that insists we need a partner to be complete.

This episode is minimally edited, per usual, so that you can really get a feel for the cadence and real human stuttering and real-time contemplating that we’ll both experience as we work together. 

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Clichés are clichés for a reason. They stick.

And while I wouldn't consider these topics necessarily cliché, when I notice a recurrence of something, I take note.

These are the 5 conversations I have weekly (sometimes even daily!!) in my practice as a licensed therapist. I hope that in sharing these conversations, you will feel a combination of validation, encouragement, challenge to edification, and an understanding that (if these topics resonate with you) these are COMMON and you are not alone in your experiences. Like i said...weekly, sometimes daily!!!

The Conversation topics include:

1. Urgency as the Enemy
2. Mind-Reading is NOT a superpower
3. Ignorance Truly is Bliss, but Insight is Power.
4. Its Not All About You (and that's a good thing)
5. Body-First-Regulation
6. BONUS: Fidget For Life.

In addition to these topics, this episode includes fun little life updates, my mountain bike trip to SLC, and a triathlon training update: how my first Olympic distance went, my new plan for training moving forward, how I'm taking my own medicine.

It has been well over a year since we've had a guest on the show, and there is no better way to invite someone back in than for a live mental health sprint coaching session!

This is one of my most popular coaching offerings and we are letting you sit as a fly on the wall!

You're going at it all backwards!!

In this episode, Kelsee explains why you're STILL struggling to believe in yourself. Here's a hint: Belief isn't developed cognitively; it's developed experientially. No more clichés....this episode is about ACTION.

Kelsee also shares a secret she's been keeping regarding how she plans to close out her 20's in a few months.

She drops the news of podcast merch coming soon!

And she invites 4 of you to be guests on the podcast for FREE LIVE coaching!

In this episode, Kelsee explains what Inner Child Work is and 5 ways that you can start to engage with your own inner-child today.

She also will share about her first triathlon experience!

Adaptability is essential for evolution and survival. In early development, we adapt out of necessity. As we age, though, adaptability becomes a choice. Until...that is...the choice is made for you. We can adapt on our own terms or we will be forced to adapt. This is a major theme of business-ownership, but also life, and Kelsee is exploring it on the podcast today.

She will also be carefully sharing about an adverse experience she is currently navigating, what she is learning about relaxation, how she is caring well for yourself right now, and how she discerns when/what to share about her life, as she explores the theme: vulnerability and why she doesn't use that word to describe herself, contrary to popular assumption.

Kelsee will also be sharing about a BIG career pivot and what to look forward to, some brief triathlon training updates, and a product she is obsessed with: LMNT electrolytes.

Discussions of alcohol use and sobriety have been an increasingly popular conversation these days, as more folks are exploring conscious, intentional living (or just trying to save some money!!)

In this episode, Kelsee shares her personal experience with alcohol and sobriety and why she hasn't drank in almost 2 years but doesn't use the label "sober" to describe herself. You'll hear about her experience growing up attending AA meetings with a parent, being fearful of alcohol, then trying it with no education, exploring sobriety through the 75 HARD Challenge, and a few tips for exploring alcohol and sobriety yourself.

Please remember, that this podcast is NOT a replacement for individual therapy, and is not medical advice. Alcohol and sobriety are being discussed in the context of the typical user, not someone with addiction or substance use disorder. This episode is for storytelling and inspiration for personal exploration and is NOT educational or informational regarding substance use. Please consult a licensed addictions counselor, your own licensed therapist, or medical provider for guidance regarding your own substance use.

In this episode she also discusses the benefits of coaching, and shares more about her upcoming coaching program "The Ascent."

In this shorter episode, Kelsee shares the most powerful practice she has implemented to help access and execute her highest potential in all that she does. This is also one of her favorite tools to use with clients to help them see that their highest selves, are actually a lot closer and a lot more accessible than they realize.

You'll leave this episode with a concrete prompt to pull more potential out of yourself, and a specific step to move a little closer to the version of you that you've been waiting to become- TODAY!

In this episode she also discusses the benefits of coaching, and shares more about her upcoming coaching program "The Ascent."

In this episode, Kelsee shares both WHY and HOW she became a mental health entrepreneur, and created a career out of counseling and coaching.

In this episode she also discusses the benefits of coaching, and shares more about her upcoming coaching program "The Ascent."

In this short episode, Kelsee explores the benefits of surrounding yourself by people who are better than you at the things you are pursuing, and why she no longer strives to be the "best" person in the room.

In this episode she also discusses the benefits of coaching, and shares more about her upcoming coaching program "The Ascent."

Happy Earth Day!!

Kelsee is passionate about sharing the healing effects of the natural world with anyone and everyone who will listen. She lives this out as she offers outdoor based therapy sessions, as a mental health counselor. But she also lives this out in her personal life as an outdoor enthusiast.

In this episode, Kelsee shares why she decided to offer eco-therapy as a modality in her counseling practice, as well as 8 ways you can engage with the natural world to achiever specific objectives for your mental health. Tune in to see how you can connect with the natural world, even indoors!

What many people don't realize (or don't want to admit) is that people-pleasing can actually be a pretty self-centered approach to relationships. Speaking from both personal AND professional experience, in this episode Kelsee explores the intersection of people-pleasing and conflict navigation. What she has discovered in her work is that often times amidst relationship challenges, people-pleasers will take something that AFFECTS them and makes it ABOUT them. Tune in to learn how to take yourself out of the center of other people's issues, and learn about the positive opportunity and insight that conflict can actually provide.

Kelsee also shares an exciting professional update and announces the upcoming re-launch of her high-touch coaching program, The Ascent!

Are you rushing through life? Do you have a tendency to be late all the time? Ever feel like there's just not enough hours in the day?

Your host, Kelsee, can relate. Time management is something she has been targeting in her personal and professional life, and today she is sharing the powerful mindset shifts and behavioral changes that have been game-changing! 

This episode will empower and inspire you to finally feel like you're working with the clock and not against it! 

Kelsee has been working with a coach and training for her first triathlon since December 2022. As she approaches the 3 month mark she wanted to share how the training is going and what she has learned so far along the way. Kelsee started taking beginner-adult swim lessons at her local YMCA, as she had previously never learned to swim. She is new to riding a bike with clip-in pedals, and is loving running so far. 

This is a quick and casual episode, for you to follow along on her journey. 

Sometimes we are so close to our own story that we forget what makes us truly unique. In this episode Kelsee shares an insight that she gleaned from a recent business meeting, and a call to action to pull ourselves out of the nitty-gritty from time to time and zoom out for a new perspective. 

Whether you are a business owner trying to stand out in the marketplace, or just a human trying to make the most of your life, this episode is a quick encouragement to take a step back and appreciate the whole landscape of your life. 

People often ask Kelsee how she does everything she does. How she has reached the kind of success in business and in life that she has. And while she is super transparent about the struggles and ebbs and flows of life, people are curious about how she lives so playfully and so freely- her zest for life is contagious! 

The answer is simple, although it may be surprising: Kelsee isn't afraid of failure and allows herself to be bad at things. And that is her number one tip for living a fulfilling life. 

Tune in to hear more of this philosophy and to be empowered to take messy action towards your dreams today! 

Life as we know it can be SO SERIOUS. If you're looking for an excuse to stop working so hard and play a little more, look no further, this episode is for YOU. 

In this episode Kelsee is describing the many benefits that play has to offer our mental health and relationships. She explains some of the ways that she prioritizes playfulness in her everyday life, how she incorporates play into the therapy setting, and encourages you to schedule more play into your life too. Because play is a basic human need that you deserve to have met! 

This isn't your typical deconstruction of faith story. Kelsee wasn't raised particularly religious. Faith in the Christian god was something she leaned deeply into and eventually out of on her own. 

Around 2018, at about the age of 24, Kelsee left Christianity. Heavily involved in the evangelical church, and a ministry leader, this was a major life transition that would be the catalyst for many other transformations in Kelsee's life. While this is a part of her story that she shares openly, this is the first time she shares the whole story in detail publicly. 

This episode is raw and unscripted, with the intent of sharing the before, during, and after of one person's religious deconstruction. Kelsee hopes that by hearing her story, listeners will know that they aren't alone in their deep questions of faith, and gain a few tips on how to navigate this kind of transition. 

Although Kelsee no longer identifies with the christian religion, her intent is not to change anyone's mind, rather it is to give them permission to explore what feels true and authentic to themself and pursue a life of meaning. 

As she says in this episode: Just like your physical health is YOUR physical health, and your mental health is YOUR mental health...Your spiritual health is YOUR spiritual health.  

In this episode, Kelsee walks you through the concept of self-compassion and how to practically start to practice this in your life. She approaches self-compassion from two angles: Word and Deed. Listen to this episode to explore your friendship values (and see how this crucial step impacts your ability to be a friend to yourself) and not only improve your self-talk, but also your self-care behaviors in a practical way. 

Walk alongside Kelsee as she explores hyper-independence, and where this originates for many folks. Consider the spectrum of dependence in your life, and uncover your deeply held-but maybe un-examined beliefs surrounding the idea of asking for and accepting help. 

In this episode Kelsee shares about a family mantra that she has come to reject, what Miley Cyrus' wrecking ball can teach us about independence, and the truth behind Kelsee's many last names.  

In this unique episode, Kelsee distinguishes healthy compartmentalization from unhealthy avoidance, and guides you through the exact visualization exercise that she uses with her counseling clients to put compartmentalizing as an asset into practice. 

Tune in to this quick episode to explore how to stay present amidst distracting worries and anxieties, without sacrificing the deeper exploration and work that you might need to do at a later time. 

Close your eyes, breathe deep, and take in this guided visualization experience. 

Kelsee is bringing you 6 tips to improve any of your relationships today.

This episode covers: mind-reading, relational language breakdowns, decentralizing yourself, assumptions (with a different spin), apologies, bids for attention

Tune in to this quick and practical episode to find out how you can set any kind of relationship up for increased success!

Kelsee asked her Instagram community which podcast episode they wanted to hear next and this option was the second-highest winner, after the practical episode #17. 

In this episode Kelsee shares some untold stories of the misconceptions she held and the mistakes she made early on in her journey of overcoming people-pleasing. Topics include:

In this much requested episode Kelsee shares what we can do when our boundaries are note being respected by others. Topics include:

In this impromptu episode Kelsee shares the story of how her new office lease fell through 2 days before moving in and how she landed a new-new office exactly a week later. Topics in this episode include:

• trusting yourself and listening to your gut
• what Kelsee believes commitment issues REALLY are
• what the new move means for her outdoor and nature-based therapy offerings (hint: they're not going away!)
• the waves of business ownership

Tune in to this quick episode to be encouraged to follow your intuition, even if no one else understands. 

Kelsee asked her Instagram community which podcast episode they wanted to hear next and this option won the most votes! No surprise, as folks are always asking for PRACTICAL and ACTIONABLE tips. This week, she is bringing you 9 holistic mental health hacks that you can implement today. 

This episode covers:

1. Gut-Health

2. Routines and Rituals

3. Mindful Consumption (media and more)

4. Body Temperature

5. Hydration

6. Natural World Connectivity

7. Power of Opposite Energy

8. Habit Pairing

9. Human Connection

Tune in to this quick and practical episode to find out how you can support your mental health in a practical, holistic manner. Use this episode as a springboard to further research what might be most supportive for you. 

In a world that constantly pushes and pressures us to move outside of our comfort zones, Kelsee shares an unconventional way to view comfort zones and explains how you can actually use what brings you comfort as an asset towards achieving your biggest goals. 

This episode will show you how to:

1. Identify the elements that make up your personal comfort zone

2. Recognize when you're experiencing burn-out from being too far outside that zone

3. Understand the different ways our brain functions inside and outside of the comfort zone

4. Utilize your comfort zone as an asset to growth 

5. And remove shame associated with being comfortable. 

Tune in to this quick and practical episode to find out how you can achieve your biggest and scariest goals while still feeling safe and secure. 

Kelsee explains the fine-line difference between Mindfulness and Hypervigilance, and how to shift into a more nurturing state for your nervous system.  

She also gives a final post-operation update and shares what that means for her triathlon training. 

This episode will show you how to:

1. Know the difference between mindfulness and hyper-vigilance.

2. Recognize the signs of hypervigilance in your life.

3. Adopt a non-judgmental, mindfulness practice and use breath-work as a way to soothe your nervous system.

4. Learn how to further explore where hypervigilance first started for you. 

Tune in to this quick and practical episode to find out how you can be more present without being on edge in your every day life.

Kelsee shares 3 ways that she uses the alarm on her phone to be more engaged in the present moment.

This episode will show you how to:

1. Be more present with others, stop checking your phone for the time, and stop stressing about being late to your next meeting.

2. Stop letting a moment of big emotions derail the rest of your day, allow yourself time to feel instead of instantly stuffing.

3. Get laser focused at work and make the very most of even the smallest chunks of time, reduce overwhelm that is fueled by procrastination.   

Tune in to this quick and practical episode to find out how you can be more present in your every day life. 

Kelsee describes Evergreen Thinking: a formula that she believes will lead to individual and collective healing. 

Listen in to find out what 3 elements make up Evergreen Thinking and how Kelsee has found them to be so powerful. 

Hi, I’m Kelsee- a mental health professional and outdoor enthusiast, obsessed with helping stuck individuals live more authentically, heal their mental health, and play outside more. 

I’m a midwest gal who grabbed a 60 liter backpack, laced up her hiking boots, and turned a quarter-life crisis into a quarter-life come-back.I teach you evidence-based ways to overcome the beliefs and behaviors that are holding you back.

Not one for small talk…psychology, spirituality, and honest conversations about both the triumphs and tragedies of life are all topics you can expect on this show. So grab your headphones, get some fresh air, and prepare to ponder deep.

Rooted in curiosity, resilience, and abundance... THIS is evergreen thinking.

In this episode Kelsee addresses a common barrier to moving forward: the fear of permanency and discussing the power of trusting that you can always change your mind. 

She also announces the exciting rebrand of the show...introducing Evergreen Thinking with Kelsee, which will officially launch next episode. Be prepared for a new name, new artwork, and a refined vision, still with your favorite soothing podcast voice. 

Extra Miles with Kelsee Keitel is a bonus, solo segment of Switchback: An Outdoor Community Podcast.

In these segments, I’ll be sharing more specifically about mental health- the bio-psycho-social issues that impact our daily lives, from my perspective as a humanistic mental health professional. My goal, like with the regular episodes, is to encourage you, challenge you to think deep, and reflect on your experiences.

This episode is an introduction to Inner-Child Work and an example of Inner-Child Healing in my own life! 

I'm sure you've heard of this concept on a podcast, TikTok, or from your favorite Instagram Therapist. Maybe you're into it or maybe you're skeptical! Wherever you are, I wanted to provide a simple introduction to what Inner Child Work is all about and how to incorporate this work into your everyday life- no therapist required.

I've experienced many forms of this work in my life, but the most recent example has come through my history of riding bikes. Get ready for some embarrassing, never-before-shared stories from throughout my childhood and early adulthood. I hope you'll see through this example that inner child work doesn't *have* to be clinical and serious. And you don't have to have a history of trauma to benefit from this work. Inner Child Work can be organic, fun, and highly intuitive. 

Extra Miles with Kelsee Keitel is a bonus, solo segment of Switchback: An Outdoor Community Podcast.

In these segments, I’ll be sharing more specifically about mental health- the bio, psycho-social issues that impact our daily lives, from my perspective as a mental health professional. My goal, like with the regular episodes, is to encourage you, challenge you to think deep, and reflect on your experiences.

We're starting this one off with a little recap of my recent trip to Colorado. Then we're talking all things Journaling!

I'm sure you've been recommended by at least one person in your life (an influencer, a friend, family member, colleague, or even a therapist like me) to give journaling a try. 

As I've been chatting with folks and reflecting on my own journey, I'm realizing that there is often a lot of barriers to entry (or to sustainability) when it comes to establishing a journaling practice. And I think that many of these barriers are a result of having a skewed idea of what journaling is "supposed" to look like. 

In this episode we're breaking down these specific barriers, and completely dismantling the image of journaling that many of us have in our minds, and providing practical solutions to the hurdles that we experience with this helpful exercise. And if you experience any kind of ADHD symptoms, I'm sending some special love to you this week :) 

Danielle Nolan is a mountain bike instructor, yoga instructor, adjunct professor, reiki practitioner, adventure guide, and mom. She runs multiple businesses with her wife Kate, including a full-service bike shop in Brown County Indiana and a women's adventure guiding organization and non-profit.

Some of the topics we discuss in this episode include trail-etiquette between mountain bike riders and hikers, the importance of regularly trying something new, and the power of stepping outside of your comfort zone. We talk about life balance and that contrary to some of the messaging out there, growing your family doesn't have to mean that you can no longer experience all that you're passionate about. Kelsee also gives a life and business update.

To connect with Danielle and Kate, visit their websites.

Extra Miles with Kelsee Keitel is a bonus segment of Switchback: An Outdoor Community Podcast.

In these shorter segments, I’ll be sharing a lot more about mental health- the bio, psycho-social issues that impact our daily lives, from my perspective as a mental health professional. My goal, like with the regular episodes, is to encourage you, challenge you to think deep, and reflect on your experiences.

In this episode, we'll be diving into the 6 self-sabotaging mindsets that are leaving you stuck, including:

• Scarcity Mindset
• All or Nothing Mindset
• Mind Reader Mindset
• Prime Conditions Mindset
• Hope-Down Mindset, and
• No Nuance Mindset. 

This episode will also cover where I've been, what it has meant to "walk my own talk," and why show production has slowed down a little bit. 

Zoe Zou runs an outdoor gear and apparel repair shop. She is also a rock climber, and quite possibly one of the kindest people you will ever meet. A deep and intentional thinker, I knew Zoe would be the perfect guest to tackle the topic of "gear culture" on the show. 

In this episode we're talking about:

Extra Miles with Kelsee Keitel is a bonus segment of Switchback: An Outdoor Community Podcast. In these shorter segments, I’ll be sharing a lot more about mental health- the bio, psycho-social issues that impact our daily lives, from my perspective as a mental health professional. My goal, like with the regular episodes, is to encourage you, challenge you to think deep, and reflect on your experiences.

On a recent poll on my instagram, someone asked me how to be less critical. I loved that question, and I wanted to share my response, and elaborate on that idea.

So….how can you be less critical? My answer to criticism is to put curiosity before judgement. This works for self-criticism, as well as being overcritical of others. Tune in to learn more about how to actually apply this concept to your life. 

Meet Cora Minkis, Owner and Dog Trainer at Canine Connected. Cora is an experienced and highly sought after dog trainer in Indianapolis, IN. She not only provides training programs for house dogs to have better manners and obedience, but also does bite-work, drug-detection, and other special skills for working dogs. 

Whether you are a dog owner, dog lover, or dog-averse, learn how to better share the outdoor spaces with dogs in this expert interview. As someone who personally has a lot fo fear and reservation towards big animals, this episode was opening and empowering for me. I hope it is empowering for you too- whatever your orientation with dogs may be. 

In this jam-packed, practical episode, we'll discuss:

• Dog and dog owner etiquette on hiking trails and outdoor spaces
• How to have confidence when encountering an off-leash or stray dog (especially if you are afraid of dogs)
• How to get started with training your pup
• Manners humans should keep in mind when approaching another person's dog
• What you need to know about training devices like leashes and collars, and why you shouldn't be purchasing these from a pet store.

Meet Aaron Ibey. Known on trail as "Wankles," Aaron is a nature photographer, rock climber, and Appalachian Trail thru-hike finisher. 

Aaron hiked the AT, which runs about 22 hundred miles from Georgia to Main, in about 6.5 months.

From the moment you meet him, even through this podcast, you’ll come to recognize Aaron as a genuine friend and artist. His calm and steady demeanor brings a refreshing perspective to the table, as we chat about:

• His journey on the AT, including the tough return back to civilization.
• Humanity’s tendency to try to relive and recreate experiences, which usually fall short of our expectations
• The temptation to document our lives while ironically missing out on the present moment right in front of us.
• Community and friendship
• How to navigate personal evolution both on and off trail.