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The Cager Express

The Cager Express

By Kylan Aburto-Pratt

Welcome to the Cager Express: Home to Southern California's favorite Escape Room Podcast: Escape Break featuring Ezekiel Cager Ky, Beth Divel and Tatiyana Abarro: . Sit down with us as we recap fun rooms, interviews and bizarre topics!


The Cager Express previously featured the following shows:
Inner Views: Currently has 3 seasons as focuses on a interview-gameshow style show, highlighting individuals around the world.

Time Is All We Have : An emotional audio sitcom following fictional character Zeke as he navigates life and battles with his fascination with time.

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The Cager ExpressDec 24, 2020

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Escape Break: Mairi Nolan & Escape Industry News
Mar 21, 202441:16
Escape Break: The Ministry of Peculiarities
Mar 07, 202441:20
Escape Break: Leap Day

Escape Break: Leap Day

One day every 4 years, Escape Rooms would be run differently. People could die, games would involve food to eat, or anything you could imagine.


We ask the team how they would envision this once in a 4-year occurrence and they have some pretty wild ideas.


Toward the end of the episode, we take some listener questions. Tune in for all the fun and Happy Leap Day 2024

Feb 29, 202444:55
Escape Break: Would You Rather

Escape Break: Would You Rather

Would you rather play Scenario Escape or Confusion Escape? A very tough question and one you won't have to answer.


However, you will get to hear about both of these great escape room companies on this episode of escape break.


After the room talk Tati unleashes some tough would you rather questions on Cager Ky. Would you rather play a room solo or with 10 people?

Tune in for the answers and some other wild hypothetical scenarios.

Feb 22, 202442:26
Escape Break: Is Wild Goose Good?

Escape Break: Is Wild Goose Good?

In short answer: Yes! Joined by special guest Ariana Hartman of Infinity Escape, we check out one of Wild Goose's newer rooms The House Next Door.


This episode we discuss what it's like to play with junkies like us and how intimidating that may be. Towards the end of the show we play a new game: Escape Room Categories!


How many rooms can you name that involve space? How many can you name that are over 60 minutes? Beth and Ky go head to head to see who knows best!

Feb 15, 202444:02
Escape Break: Escape Room Matchmaker

Escape Break: Escape Room Matchmaker

With Valentines Day around the corner the team resumes their annual debate: Are escape rooms good for finding love?


Beth, Ky and Tati nominate their favorite rooms for taking a date out as well as a segment of red flags and green flags to look out for.


Whether single or in a relationship we hope we can all share he love of puzzles!

Feb 08, 202450:21
Escape Break: This is 300!

Escape Break: This is 300!

Tatiyana achieves her 300th Escape Room at the Ministry of Peculiarities! We take this episode to congratulate her and discuss some of the rooms leading the way there.


The Ultimate Game Master returns with a story of a rude one who we luckily avoided on our trip.


The episode concludes with a game of Story Tellers. Can you identify these Souther California Rooms just by hearing the story told?


We hope you enjoy this episode of Escape Break!

Feb 01, 202401:00:54
Escape Break: Getting to Know Ky

Escape Break: Getting to Know Ky

On the final episode of Getting to Know, Cager Ky takes the stage.


Tati and Beth take turns questioning him with the wild and wacky.


From understanding life changing events, the future of escape rooms and even explaining the game of basketball to a newbie, this episode has the most variety of them all.


Tati also gets some revenge for some tough hypotheticals she was put in on the previous episodes.


We hope you all enjoy!

Jan 25, 202401:12:33
Escape Break: Getting To Know Tati

Escape Break: Getting To Know Tati

Tatiyana is the calculated and most organized on Escape Break. This episode we take some time to get to know more behind her love of Escape Rooms, Dogs and Sports.


Beth and Cager Ky do their best to make the questions tough but insightful on this special episode of Getting to Know Tati.

Jan 18, 202444:25
Escape Break: Get To Know Beth

Escape Break: Get To Know Beth

She has no rival, it's Escape Break's own Beth Divel!


This episode your favorite multicolored, high energy host get put on the hot seat! She'll answer a variety of questions submitted from the other hosts and our loyal Escape Breaker Family!


Tune in for some laughs and support for this one of a kind puzzle ninja!

Jan 11, 202448:07
Escape Break: Holiday Special 2023

Escape Break: Holiday Special 2023

Twas the night before Christmas and all through the show,

We find Beth on an adventure with Tatiyana Abarro.


A mysterious old lady helps Beth to stay warm,

But Tati meets a boy who is far from the norm.


This episode isn't filled with too much love,

but instead, a mystery, some puzzles and nightclubs.


The chaos is building, the tension alive.

Listen to this Holiday special to see who survives.



Happy Holidays from all of us here at The Cager Express and Escape Break!




Dec 24, 202356:55
Escape Break: Out & About with 60Out

Escape Break: Out & About with 60Out

Beth, reinvigorated on the quest to 300 escape rooms teams up with Cager Ky to play a trio of room at 60Out!


Known for their hit or miss adventures, the crew lucked out with 3 strong games to discuss.

  • Casino Heist II - A traditional yet solid money stealing mission
  • Wizards Treasure - A phenomenal transportation to world of magic and wonder.
  • Hotel and Road 666 - A mind bending stay at a hotel that truly wants you to stay forever.


While it has been a while the team was firing on all cylinders and had a wonderful time taking advantage of some Black Friday gift cards! Thanks to Anthony and Chandler for being great hosts!


Dec 22, 202334:58
Escape Break: The Brain Games Gauntlet

Escape Break: The Brain Games Gauntlet

Tatiyana and Cager Ky head to San Pedro California to play the trio escape rooms at Brain Games!


From The Laboratory, to Twenty Ghost and their hit game, Treasure Island, they had a blast.


Tune in to this no spoiler episode highlighting a puzzle heavy adventure in SoCal.

Dec 16, 202327:20
Escape Break: Who Got Snubbed?

Escape Break: Who Got Snubbed?

Beth, Tati & Ezekiel Cager Ky get together to discuss the recent results of the TERPECA 2023 First Round. With some passionate opinions they each discussed who was snubbed and who they believe shouldn't have made it.


With Cager Achieving 300 Escape rooms the focus shifts to Tati and Beth as they approach this notable milestone.


We hope you enjoy!

Nov 21, 202339:29
Escape Break: Deja Rooms

Escape Break: Deja Rooms

Escape Break returns with a segment of our award nominations for TERPECA, a quick humbling game of chain reaction and a set of Key Questions.


Tati turns up the heat as she recently was victim to playing a room that she had played in the past under a different name. We ask the question is it too hard to disclaim that a room was bought? Is it ethical to not disclose this information to your consumers?


Additionally, as rooms try and make more money, we question the implementation of paid beta tests and video footage to purchase.


All this and more on Escape Break!

Nov 08, 202350:27
Escape Break: Dying to Ask You Ft. Beth Devil

Escape Break: Dying to Ask You Ft. Beth Devil

On this spooky episode of Escape Break the crew discusses their favorite scary movies, top scary escape rooms and reveal some underlying fears.


Thanks to Beth, a few rounds of Dying To Ask You are played and it soon becomes clear that there is a little darkness in all of us.


Scary Escape Rooms don't have to be terrifying, so tune in for some great options to play from horrifying adventures to light and spooky good times.


Have a safe Halloween from us here at the Escape Break team!

Oct 24, 202348:23
Escape Break: National Escape Room Day

Escape Break: National Escape Room Day

Welcome to the National Escape Room Day recap! Tati and Ky discuss this year's NERD event. From all the different activities at each booth to the winners of the escape room day trivia we have it all in store.


This special episode includes sound bites from those who had a chance to speak with us at the event! Listen in to hear about why everyone loves escape rooms so much, their favorite rooms and some special interviews with Skeleton Key Escapes Rooms, MindFox and Escape The Arcade.


We hope you enjoy!

Oct 14, 202353:18
Escape Break: The Olympics

Escape Break: The Olympics

Welcome in to the first Escape Break Olympics. In this episode Beth and Tatiyana go head-to-head in a battle of Escape Room Trivia and more.


Games Include

  • Escape Room Trivia
  • Escape Break Trivia
  • Is That A Room
  • Categories


This episode is in honor of the upcoming National Escape Room Day on October 1st 2023.


We hope to see you at this Southern California Event as Ezekiel Cager Ky will be hosting trivia at this great gather.


Tune in for some fun as this match goes down to the wire! We hope to see you at the beginning of October!

Sep 21, 202354:55
Escape Break: The King of The North

Escape Break: The King of The North

Escape Break had the pleasure of coming back to Northern California. The crew visited Yuba City and Freemont California to take on 6 rooms collectively.


NorCal Escape had been on the radar for us for quite some time as a locally recommended gem. Additionally, Off The Couch Games was a highly awaited nostalgic treat. We discuss both of these great companies to check out and what the future holds for both of them.

Tune in for the fun, we hope you enjoy!


Sep 02, 202352:21
Escape Break: Ariana Hartman + The Ultimate Game Master

Escape Break: Ariana Hartman + The Ultimate Game Master

The Ultimate Game Master returns with an extra dash of ultimate thanks to Infinity Escape's Ariana Hartman. Touting the award winning Magic Cottage, Ariana join us to discuss being a game master and a quick look at the stories behind their existing rooms. We get some brief details about their upcoming room as well. As the episode shifts we talk more about:

  • Ariana's Game Mastering Tips
  • How To Reset Rooms
  • Navigating Tech Failures
  • Making Sure A Great Picture Is Taken

Be sure to play all the rooms at Infinity Escape if you are even in Fullerton CA, and don't forget to catch the Hart to Heart Radio show next season on Titanradio.org.

Aug 10, 202358:33
Escape Break: The Immersive Machine

Escape Break: The Immersive Machine

Scott Levy is one of the owners of The Immersive Machine in Phoenix Arizona. But before he teamed up to create the out of this world adventure of Sal's Cybernetics he was just an escape room enthusiast like the rest of us!


Scott is also the father of the original Escape Room tracker: sponsored by Excel. We sit down and chat it up with Scott to talk about all his many ventures into the escape room world and a great behind the scenes look of his wonderful game.

Jul 20, 202301:04:46
Escape Break: Exploring Arizona Part 2

Escape Break: Exploring Arizona Part 2

The back half of our Arizona episode consists of some big hitters in the Escape Room world:

The Nemesis Club:

  • Evil Robots
  • Mogollon Monster

Paragon Escapes:

  • Return of The Pharaoh

The Immersive Machine:

  • Sal's Cybernetics

Each one of these games can all be in the discussion for top adventure out in the desert but Tati and Cager Ky have a clear favorite. We play a quick game of Is That A Room and then continue the landscape of the evolving puzzle scene in Arizona. We hope you can make a trip out and play a lot of these rooms in the future!

Jul 07, 202346:44
Escape Break: Exploring Arizona Part 1

Escape Break: Exploring Arizona Part 1

The Escape Room scene out in Arizona is one to be reckoned with and we are here to talk about it. We took a trip to Arizona and completed 12 total rooms and this episode we talk about 3 companies to consider playing:

Eludesions:

  • Mad Hatter's Tea Party
  • Runestone
  • Path To Enlightenment
  • The Painter's Collection

North Valley Escape Rooms:

  • Big Top Circus
  • Alcatraz

The Greatest Escape Room:

  • The Art Museum: Heist
  • Isle of Wonder


All in all we had a great time with these rooms and recommend quite a few of them. No spoilers here but this is just part one of our Arizona adventure.

Jul 06, 202341:38
Escape Break: Creativity At An All-Time Low

Escape Break: Creativity At An All-Time Low

On this episode of Escape Break we discuss if there is a lack of creativity in the escape room world. After several years of escaping, is it time for some themes to retire completely? We also discuss the trend and details behind redoing a room as a version 2.0, theming a room after someone else's IP, and if any theme is truly original any more. With some taking on the Winnie the Pooh theme, and others touting the seconding coming of Fullerton's Zoe, we acknowledge the challenge ahead. With many following the trend of imitating others, we are in search for the few, the brave, the creative. Questions discussed:

  • Should any room themes retire?
  • Can a room really be played twice?
  • Are companies being honest about their new games?
  • Are IP rooms good or bad?
  • To build or buy: Which is better?
Jun 15, 202353:38
Escape Break: Wild Goose Escape

Escape Break: Wild Goose Escape

Camille Chartier, the General Manager of Wild Goose Escapes joins us for an interview. Wild Goose currently has 3 locations in Southern California and are looking at building a 4th. After taking over of the long running escape room, Fox in A Box, Wild Goose is learning how to balance the craft of inheriting rooms and bringing in their own brand at a high pace. The Wild Goose original rooms are a great play and they have plans on bringing in a few more within a years time. Tune in to hear more about Camille and the hit rooms S.A.S.H.A. Home of the Future, Secrets of Shadow Point and their new rooms on the way.

Jun 02, 202347:45
Escape Break: Film Session - No Escape Room

Escape Break: Film Session - No Escape Room

On this episode of Escape Break, the crew watches an Escape Room movie so you don't have to. This special Film Session episode covers the Sci-Fi movie "No Escape Room" (2018). This film gives all it knows about the escape room world and we soon find out it's a bit out of touch. However, the team is here to guide you through and analyze the movie for a few laughs and save you from watching what could be described as the last escape room movie you'd ever want to see.

May 17, 202352:08
Escape Break: The Ultimate Game Master Part 2

Escape Break: The Ultimate Game Master Part 2

This is The Ultimate Game Master. A series that covers tips and tricks to help all game masters reach a level of excellence like never before. Beth Divel and Ezekiel Cager Ky lead this episode to cover 5 new topics to help game masters provide top of the line experiences. From conducting the perfect game to understanding how to represent the community well, they are set to help keep the ER heading in the right direction. Todays tips include:

  • Orchestrate Timing
  • Be Honest With Your Builds
  • Seek To Gain Skills
  • Answer The Phone
  • Represent The Community Well

Thank you for all the support and make sure to reach out on Instagram at @TheCagerExpress

Apr 13, 202351:32
Escape Break: Money Money Money

Escape Break: Money Money Money

If there is one downside to being addicted to Escape Rooms, it's the cumulative cost to play them all! Ezekiel Cager Ky and Tati discuss a few Key Questions revolving around money and the love of puzzles. Before the debate begins, a quick game of " Is That A Room?" and then we get into the topic of the day. This episode covers several key questions:

  • Why are Escape Rooms so expensive?
  • Should all Escape Rooms cost the same?
  • Do you really love Escape Rooms if you ask for discounts?
  • Should you tip your Game Master?

All in all it comes down to one question you hope you can say yes to: Are you getting your money's worth?


We got your answers on this episode of Escape Break!

Mar 22, 202347:18
Escape Break: Best Of Battle Vol. 3

Escape Break: Best Of Battle Vol. 3

The 'Best Of' Battle is back with the whole crew on Escape Break. Did you know that in some escape rooms you actually get to break things? Who is the most memorable voice you've puzzled with in a room? Some escape rooms don't even end in an escape, you just collect as many points as you can. It's all talked about in this showdown. Our categories:

  • Best Destruction Puzzle.
  • Best Voice Interaction.
  • Best Point Collecting Room.

Tune in to see who brought it best in showing their love of Escape Rooms.  Let us know what moments you think are the best too!

Mar 04, 202340:46
Escape Break: Morty!
Feb 09, 202331:41
Escape Break: The Ultimate Game Master Part 1

Escape Break: The Ultimate Game Master Part 1

Welcome to The Ultimate Game Master! An educational series lead by Ezekiel Cager Ky and Beth Divel.  Tune in each episode of U.G.M. to learn tips and tricks to creating the Ultimate Adventure! This episode we cover 6 topics:

  1. Know Your Rooms
  2. Pay Attention to Your Group
  3. Immerse Your Stories and Rules
  4. Give Real Hints
  5. Like Your Customers
  6. Play Escape Rooms


Each topic is dissected and discussed by your favorites hosts as they share their experiences from being Game Masters, Managers, Voice Actors Designers and  Director of Operations. 


We hope you all enjoy!

Feb 02, 202350:25
Escape Break: The Award Goes To...

Escape Break: The Award Goes To...

Bringing in the new year, Tatiyana hosts an episode! What starts out as some light hearted games recapping the year quickly turns in some heated conversation. Tune in as Tatiyana takes time  highlighting some Southern California Escape Rooms which won awards in 2022. However the heat rises when Cager Ky finds out some of the award candidates and processes. It's been cold even in So-Cal so let the temperature rise with this month's episode of Escape Break! Don't worry, they are still friends!

Jan 19, 202356:39
The Cager Express : 2023 Update

The Cager Express : 2023 Update

What's up everyone! Welcome to the new year with a quick episode with me, Ezekiel Cager Ky. Listen in for a preview of the year to come and some updates on some of the shows of the past.

Jan 15, 202318:25
Escape Break: Escape Break Eve Games!

Escape Break: Escape Break Eve Games!

With the last episode of 2022 we bring to you the Escape Break Eve Games. Beth, Tati and Cager Ky each create an escape room themed game for the others to play. If you love escape rooms, you can play too! Join the holiday cheer as Beth hosts: Is that a Room?, Tati hosts: Christmas Trivia and Ky runs a winter themed audio escape room of randomness! Thank you for spending your Escape Year with us.

Dec 24, 202257:47
Escape Break: Cross Roads Escape Games
Dec 15, 202250:15
Escape Break: The Escape Room Draft

Escape Break: The Escape Room Draft

The Escape Room Draft is here! Tatiyana and Ezekiel Cager Ky faceoff in a head to head draft as they use their imaginations to create their own escape rooms.  This match up is Candy Land vs Dinner Time. How will they pick puzzle styles and integrate them into their room? Who will have the more appealing adventures? It's up to you to decide on this episode of Escape Break!

Dec 08, 202249:00
Escape Break: 'Best Of' Battle Vol 2

Escape Break: 'Best Of' Battle Vol 2

The 'Best Of' Battle continues on Escape Break. Cager Ky, Tati and Beth square off  for 3 more rounds of playful banter as they try and determine the best moments ever to exist in the Escape Room World.  This episode's battle categories include:

  • Best Solo Task
  • Best Story Line
  • Best Puzzle Involving Music

Tune in to listen to our experiences chronicling some top rooms around the country.  Companies highlighted include: Scenario Escape, The 13th Gate, Clever Fox, The Basement, 60out, Crossroads Escape, Stashhouse, &  Hatch. 

Dec 01, 202250:31
Escape Break: Escape Pilgrims

Escape Break: Escape Pilgrims

Thankfulness is in the air as we gather around the Escape Table for an Escape Break Thanksgiving. We discuss what we are thankful for in the industry from games, people and moments that brought us together. Awkward dinner questions are posed as light-hearted fun at the dinner table and we end the episode with a new game: Poorly Described Escape Rooms.  For those who support the show , listen and interact with us - We are thankful for you!

Nov 24, 202258:25
Escape Break: Shadd Copping

Escape Break: Shadd Copping

Game Master, Enthusiast and Escape Room Lover: Shadd Copping joins the show to discuss his path to Escape Room fandom.  Shadd played his first room in Italy and traveling throughout his life has lead him to California continue his Escape Room climb.  For a short period of time, Shadd was a excellent game master in San Diego  at The Unlockables where he went above and beyond to make sure his teams had the time of their lives.  Shadd is a big fan and friend of the show and came prepared to the interview with some fun questions for us. 

Nov 17, 202246:07
Escape Break: Being The Best Escape Team

Escape Break: Being The Best Escape Team

When it comes to dos and don'ts and Escape rooms there's a lot you can do to ensure both your team and your game master will have a solid time. We are here to discuss how to make sure your next escape room adventure is set for success no matter the room! From showing up on time to taking a shower? Yes! We are here for it all in this quick discussion.  Tati also stops for a little game break with some Trapped! Escape Room Trivia! While Cager Ky has some questions of his own, and goal to create The ERU: Escape Room Universe. We hope you enjoy!

Nov 10, 202245:18
Escape Break: Best Of - Battle   Vol. 1

Escape Break: Best Of - Battle Vol. 1

Let the games begin. Beth, Tati and Ezekiel Cager Ky are here to compete in a new series called  The Best Of - Battle where we go head to head to head in various escape room categories presenting what we believe are the best moments ever to experience.  This is just the first of this series with many more categories to come. This mini premiere features:

  • The Best Split Start
  • The Best Character To Interact With
  • The Best Jump Scare


The Best Of - Battle include very mild spoilers about the following rooms: The Hex Room,  The Lost Expedition, Ms Jezebel, The Experiment,  The Neighbor, Disrupted Decades, The Vanishing of Emily Meyers,  The Darkest Hour, and MurderCo.

Nov 03, 202242:12
Escape Break: Top Tier Escape Room

Escape Break: Top Tier Escape Room

On this Escape Break Interview we are joined by Brandon West of Top Tier Escape in Oceanside CA.  Brandon and Michelle broke into the escape room world almost 4 years ago and have produced 3 stellar adventures: Atlantis, Undercover: Escape The Safehouse, and Outside In.  We discuss a bit about each room and also their decisions to make some crucial changes to each of the room as time passed.  Escape Room Owner by title but basketball player by heart we talk a bit about who the best hoopers are in the escape room world and clear the record on some comical matters. Will Brandon ever play a scary room with us? Does he have a NBA doppelganger? Ezekiel Cager Ky thinks so! All this and more on this episode of Escape Break.

Oct 27, 202252:10
Escape Break: Escape Room Date Night

Escape Break: Escape Room Date Night

Looking to spice up your dating life? Look no further than this episode of Escape Break where we explore whether or not escape rooms are a good thing from the dating scene.  We share a few stories about our experience dating and if its beneficial to your future success if you can work together in an escape room  We've seen a lot in escape rooms from couples getting along, fighting and even a proposal or two!  Besides the dates, some escape rooms are built for 2 players only but one of us argues that this isn't the best thing to let continue.  All of this love and more in this episode of Escape Break!

Oct 20, 202249:00
Escape Break: Skeleton Key Escape Room!

Escape Break: Skeleton Key Escape Room!

Many players dream of starting their own escape room, but that's where it stops. Tyler and Kolby made their dream a reality by creating Skeleton Key Escape Room.  As big fans of horror and generation 1 games, they put together Carlisle Café a cute original adventure from story to art! We talk with them about what it feels like to be new to the escape room scene how they want to move forward with Skeleton Key's future rooms and even why they chose the name Carlisle! You can check out this adventure when you are in San Diego, just make sure to take a funny ending picture like we did!

Oct 13, 202242:28
Escape Break: Spooky Exposure Therapy

Escape Break: Spooky Exposure Therapy

All 3 of your favorite host are together for this Halloween Edition of Escape Break! From dressing up in rooms to talking about our deepest darkest fears we have it all in store.  Whether you are a beginner, intermediate or extremist when it comes to scary things Beth, Tati and Ky put together the Ultimate Halloween Escape Room Roadmap of recommended games.  With all the fun memories and experiences in this episode we realized one thing: Trauma brought us together and we are here to stay. We hope you enjoy this spooky edition of Escape Break!

Oct 06, 202201:18:13
Escape Break: Confusion Escapes

Escape Break: Confusion Escapes

New comer to the escape room scene,  Confusion Escapes joins the show. Al and Stacy are veterans to the haunt industry and escape room lovers too. When they decided to start their own escape room it was  a simple conversation and plan: Let's Use A Semi Truck! The rest was history. From "The Last Job", the fantasy adventure " Tree House" and of course the number 1 seed in the escape room bathroom Olympics, Confusion has really made a splash in Southern California in less than a year.  Our interview covers all of this and more including  a somewhat awkward first meeting between Cager Ky and Stacy.  You can play Confusion Escapes at  https://confusionescapes.com/

Sep 29, 202234:19
Escape Break: Brain Games Escape Room
Sep 22, 202240:36
Escape Break: Preventing Bad Experiences, New Rooms & Daddy

Escape Break: Preventing Bad Experiences, New Rooms & Daddy

What can you do to prevent a bad experience in an Escape Room?  We think its an easy answer, but we discuss this topic as well as how to deal with tech failures! With new games popping up towards the end of the year, Tati and Ky put together some wacky stories about these upcoming adventures. Last but not least, Escape Room Stories from hell to hilarious is back with one of the most cringe worthy experiences ever!

Sep 15, 202249:07
Escape Break: Mindtrap
Sep 08, 202236:02
Escape Break: Playing Palace Games!

Escape Break: Playing Palace Games!

At the Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco you will find one of the most storied Escape Room Companies in all the country. On this episode Tatiyana and Cager Ky discuss the first 3 games you will find there as well as the logistics of the best way to play these games.  We had a blast solving puzzles and getting a reminder of what Escape Rooms used to be with Houdini and Roosevelt only to be met with a glimpse of the present and future in one of  their newest game: Edison

Sep 01, 202242:11