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Leaving The Village

Leaving The Village

By Jessica Goforth & Alexis Grey

Have you ever met someone who survived a CULT? Leaving The Village is a podcast about life inside Bill Gothard's cult IBLP/ATI. Hosts Jessica Goforth and Alexis Grey take you behind the scenes of growing up inside, how they left, and introduce an entire cohort of survivors of radicalized religion.
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Trailer: Leaving The Village Returns!

Leaving The VillageJun 24, 2023

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Trailer: Leaving The Village Returns!

Trailer: Leaving The Village Returns!

Have you seen the Amazon Prime docuseries Shiny Happy People? Were you shocked to hear the wholesome, American Duggar family was involved in a cult? A cult full of abuse, sex, and religious trauma. A cult that claimed to educate children and planned to use them to take over the world.Have you wished you could sit down with an IBLP survivor and hear more of the story? Join hosts Jessica Goforth and Alexis Grey on Leaving the Village, a podcast by IBLP survivors centering their lived experiences and shining a light on all the hidden torment and harm they endured growing up in the cult shown on the groundbreaking docuseries. We have exclusive interviews with cast members where we laugh and cry and go behind the scenes with them as we discuss our shared experiences. If watching the documentary left you wanting more, check out Leaving The Village on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

Jun 24, 202301:18
Shiny Happy Who?? - Introducing The Duggar Docuseries

Shiny Happy Who?? - Introducing The Duggar Docuseries

Jess and Kit return eager to talk all things IBLP with the new docuseries from Olivia Crist for Amazon Prime, called Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets, dropping June 2nd. With fresh insights and boiling over anticipation, they sit down to discuss their reactions to the trailer and kick off the new season of Leaving The Village.

The trailer for Shiny Happy People on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Tw1rAMzPf70

The docuseries on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B8TR94MK/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

May 26, 202348:20
BREAKING: Sentencing for Josh Duggar

BREAKING: Sentencing for Josh Duggar

This time Jess is joined by fellow LTV team member and childhood friend, Alexis Grey, as they react to a roller coaster of emotions surrounding the sentencing trial in the Josh Duggar CSAM (child sexual assault materials) possession conviction. They go over the details of the sentencing and what it means for his family as well as survivors.
May 26, 202241:15
Ding Dong, The Cult is DEAD!

Ding Dong, The Cult is DEAD!

Can it be real? Did ATI really just finally... die?? Jess and Kit react to breaking news that the cult they grew up in and survived has officially shut down. Something they couldn't have imagined not that long ago.

Visit http://atii.org to read the full statement.

Apr 28, 202227:55
Adulting as Cult Survivors - BONUS

Adulting as Cult Survivors - BONUS

Coming to you a little frazzled and a bit the worse for wear, Jess and Kit return with some hilarious late night girl talk, opening up about carving out their own lives post ATI, finding identity, and learning to cuss and swear with the best of them. ;) This episode is marked explicit but its all in good fun.

Apr 19, 202243:20
The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 11

The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 11

Picking up in Chapter 32 Jess and Kit continue their way through Margaret Attwood's Handmaid's Tale.

Mar 07, 202241:09
The ATI Curriculum - FINAL Section - Inside Wisdom Booklet One
Feb 19, 202201:01:15
The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 10

The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 10

Jess and Kit talk power differentials and the key role of HOPE in the toxic cocktail required for authoritarian control to work while continuing through chapters 30 and 31 of Margaret Atwood's dystopian novel, The Handmaid's Tale.

Feb 17, 202256:19
We Have an Exciting Announcement!

We Have an Exciting Announcement!

Leaving the Village is growing! We are excited to bring you along with us and introduce you to someone we hope you enjoy as much as we do. 

Feb 12, 202228:20
The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 9

The Handmaid's Tale Book Club - Part 9

We are back with fresh new episodes of our Handmaid's Tale book club, getting into chapters 27 through 29. 

Feb 10, 202201:05:18
BREAKING - We respond to IBLP’s statement to the media

BREAKING - We respond to IBLP’s statement to the media

Jess and Kit discuss IBLP’s most recent response to news media inquiries.
Feb 06, 202247:26
A New Year - A Fresh Start

A New Year - A Fresh Start

Kicking off Season 3 with all the feels, Jess and Kit talk their latest life challenges, tell the story of meeting for they first time in early January, their impulsive decision to get matching tattoos, the meaning behind their tattoo, and announce tons of new content, interviews, and parts of their own story... all to come in this new year. New Year, fresh beginnings! 

Mentioned in this episode:

Author Heather Heath - aka: @backsliddenharlot on TikTok and her new book Lovingly Abused, available on www.HeatherGraceHeath.com or wherever you get your books. 

Feb 01, 202248:24
Special Edition - THE VERDICT - Josh Duggar Trial

Special Edition - THE VERDICT - Josh Duggar Trial

Jess and Kit react to the Josh Duggar trial verdict.

Dec 16, 202101:46:21
Special Edition - The Duggar Trial

Special Edition - The Duggar Trial

Grab a drink and hang out with Jess and Kit as they talk the Josh Duggar trial. WARNING: Triggers may abound in this episode and it includes explicit language. Listener discretion is advised. 

Dec 05, 202101:52:21
Part 8 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 8 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Welcome back to our Handmaid’s Tale book club. Today Jess and Kit move into chapters 24 - 26. Topics of trauma bonds and the isolation that is inevitable in cult life come up as we move deeper into Margaret Atwood’s famous dystopian novel.

Nov 30, 202145:33
Why ATI is a Cult- Part 2

Why ATI is a Cult- Part 2

Jess and Kit deep dive into the last two letters of the BITE model, as they leave no real room for argument against ATI being a real cult.
Oct 30, 202101:12:26
Part 7- The Handmaid’s Tale Book Club

Part 7- The Handmaid’s Tale Book Club

Kit and Jess deep dive into the extremely dense chapters 22 and 23 of Margaret Atwood’s classic.
Oct 27, 202150:37
Okay but, what makes ATI a CULT?
Oct 12, 202101:00:50
Part 6 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 6 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

This is episode covers chapter 18 though 21 of Margaret Atwood's poignant book, The Handmaid's Tale. 

Sep 15, 202136:18
Interview with Andy - Romance & Marriage on the Other Side

Interview with Andy - Romance & Marriage on the Other Side

In this episode, Jess interviews Kit and her husband, Andy, as they talk candidly about how they met, what it was like revealing Kit’s background, and how they were able to forge a relationship as Kit’s was shedding her purity culture upbringing.

*Some content may be inappropriate for younger listeners.

Aug 05, 202101:14:34
Part 5 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 5 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

In this section Jess and Kit tackle the difficult chapters 14-17 of Margaret Atwood’s book The Handmaid’s Tale. This part covers “the ceremony” so keep in mind the content warning: topics include sexual assault, rape, and religious abuse. Please use your discretion when listening and be aware that some topics may be inappropriate for children.

Jul 26, 202155:14
BONUS - Q&A Time! And some fun stuff too...

BONUS - Q&A Time! And some fun stuff too...

In this super candid 4th of July episode, Jess and Kit grab their mics to answer some listener questions and then dish about everything from their mutual obsession with Gilmore Girls, books and shows they are into lately, and on to how Kit's move is coming along. 

Jul 05, 202101:11:54
Part 4 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 4 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Continuing our way through Margaret Atwood's book, The Handmaid's Tale. As Jess and Kit describe their experiences inside an authoritarian cult.
Jun 26, 202152:42
Part 3 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 3 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Picking up in Chapter 7 of Margaret Atwood's book The Handmaid's Tale, Jess and Kit share their observations and what stuck out to them. They talk honestly about motherhood and how its tangled up with fundamentalism and how that effected each of them in different ways. Grab your book and a cup of tea and join this intimate discussion. 

Jun 21, 202149:47
The ATI Curriculum - Part TWO - Inside Wisdom Booklet One

The ATI Curriculum - Part TWO - Inside Wisdom Booklet One

And we are back, taking you inside what passes for "education" inside the Advanced Training Institute. Bill Gothard's homeschooling cult. This time Jess and Kit dive into the linguistics section as well as the "history" section (that oddly turned out to be straight up geography. Scratch that BIBLICAL geography? Yeah...) You can access a free version of this Wisdom Booklet here: https://homeschoolersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/wbvol1-compressed.pdf

Jun 10, 202143:09
Part 2 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Part 2 - The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Moving further into the book The Handmaid's Tale, by Margaret Atwood, Jess and Kit invite you along as they unpack what they are reading. Themes of patriocentric control, ways the characters find to cope, and how Jess and Kit's own experiences with an authoritarian, patriarchal cult dovetails with the story. Grab your copy of The Handmaid's Tale and a cup of tea and join us for the continuation of our Book Club. 

Jun 05, 202101:22:20
Cult Brainwashing 101

Cult Brainwashing 101

Join Kit as she interviews Jess about her harrowing experience in solitary confinement within the ATI training center "Prayer Room". If you have ever wondered what textbook cult brainwashing looks like, you won't want to miss this episode! 

Jun 04, 202101:07:15
Introducing The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Introducing The Handmaid's Tale Book Club

Kicking off Season Two of Leaving The Village, join Kit and Jess as they discuss the introduction to the classic dystopian novel by Margaret Atwood. They bring their unique perspective as survivors of a patriarchal, authoritarian cult and unpack the ways the novel highlights the logical result of the teachings that we find all too familiar; teachings that are eerily similar to what we were immersed in while apart of Bill Gothard's IBLP/ATI program. Feel free to read along with us and share your thoughts on our social media or with the link below.

Jun 01, 202101:14:35
"Please Stop Telling Us Who We Can Talk To!"

"Please Stop Telling Us Who We Can Talk To!"

Jess and Kit sit down to chat candidly with our dear friend, author Heather Heath, about fan responses to Kit's LIVE interview with Katie Joy of Without A Crystal Ball on YouTube, May 22nd. We share our vetting process and our feelings about the outpouring of concern for us in light of the controversial nature of Katie Joy's platform. Heather sets the record straight and shares her timeless wisdom and the wit we love so much!

Kit's interview on Without A Crystal Ball can be seen here: https://youtu.be/tAKUngtvew8

May 23, 202124:47
SPECIAL EDITION - The Latest Duggar News and its Connection to ATI

SPECIAL EDITION - The Latest Duggar News and its Connection to ATI

While people are ultimately responsible for their own actions, Bill Gothard, ATI, and Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are in very real and practical ways responsible for the abuses Josh Duggar has been allowed to perpetrate, unchecked, for decades. Jess and Kathleen explain why in this timely episode of Leaving the Village.

May 01, 202158:45
BONUS episode - Kit's ITC Horror Story

BONUS episode - Kit's ITC Horror Story

In this fascinating BONUS episode Kit takes a break from her usual role of co-host as Jess interviews her about her cult training center nightmare experience. Kit will take us behind the scenes of the insular world inside the Indianapolis Training Center.

Apr 20, 202101:02:33
Episode 6 - The ATI Curriculum - Jess and Kit Take You Inside Wisdom Booklet One

Episode 6 - The ATI Curriculum - Jess and Kit Take You Inside Wisdom Booklet One

This time, on Leaving The Village, Jess and Kit take you inside the curriculum of Bill Gothard's ATI program. Special thanks to the website Homeschoolers Anonymous for their open source copies of the Wisdom Booklets we used for this episode.

Mar 20, 202101:07:49
Episode 5 - Jess and Kit Watch "The Rookie"

Episode 5 - Jess and Kit Watch "The Rookie"

So, what do you think happens when a couple of cult survivors watch TV? You guessed it: we geek out like crazy over the portrayal of fictionalized cults on our favorite shows. Join us as we completely spoil the "True Crime" episode from Season 3 of "The Rookie". SPOILER ALERT!!

Mar 19, 202101:11:08
Episode 4 - Personality? What is that?

Episode 4 - Personality? What is that?

In previous episodes Jess and Kit talked about how in Bill Gothard's cult, IBLP/ATI, one's personality could feel erased. In this episode they take a deeper look into their journey to recover from the mind control that even took their personalities from them.

Feb 22, 202101:02:00
In Which the Polar Vortex Screws Things Up

In Which the Polar Vortex Screws Things Up

Just an update on what’s going on around here, and what to expect!
Feb 18, 202112:42
Episode 3 - The ATI Modesty Olympics

Episode 3 - The ATI Modesty Olympics

Modesty culture is everywhere in fundamentalism across the board but how exactly did ATI manage to take it to a whole other place? Jess and Kit talk clothing standards in the world of IBLP/ATI.

Feb 09, 202101:08:20
BONUS episode with ATI mom Sandi Goforth

BONUS episode with ATI mom Sandi Goforth

What drew parents to enroll in ATI? How did they go from mainline evangelical to an isolationist cult? Jessica's mom shares her journey with ATI and how she came to the reality of what was really happening to their family. Don't miss this candid and intimate interview!

Feb 06, 202129:03
Episode 2 - Good Little ATI Girls?

Episode 2 - Good Little ATI Girls?

Did Jess and Kit become the good little ATI girls they were expected to be?? Well, not quite....

Jan 30, 202143:39
BONUS Interview with ATI survivor Heather Heath

BONUS Interview with ATI survivor Heather Heath

Fellow IBLP/ATI survivor, and author Heather Heath, joins us to introduce a bit of her story. You can hear her energy and determined sense of self as it propelled her out and into a whole new life. 

Jan 30, 202121:43
Episode 1 - The Cult

Episode 1 - The Cult

This is our opening episode! Here we explain the cult we grew up in and introduce you to the insular world of homeschool extremism.

Jan 30, 202157:22