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The Legal Dispute with Lenny & Paul

The Legal Dispute with Lenny & Paul

By The Legal Dispute

Politics ~ Law ~ Culture ~ Sports

Argumentative Masochism.

Two lifelong friends engage in lively, informed, contentious, and irreverent debate over today's hottest topics.

Leonard Martinez and Paul Gaudet met in High School in Denver, CO and they have been arguing about everything ever since.
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Biden's Border Blunder, Gender Equality in NCAA Sports, WACO, George Floyd Update

The Legal Dispute with Lenny & PaulMar 29, 2021

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Biden's Border Blunder, Gender Equality in NCAA Sports, WACO, George Floyd Update

Biden's Border Blunder, Gender Equality in NCAA Sports, WACO, George Floyd Update

In this epi: 

  • Crisis at the southern border
  • Immigration Reform
  • NCAA Basketball Tourney & Gender Equality in Modern Day Collegiate Athletics
  • Discussion on the Waco Massacre
  • Update on murder trial of the 'cop' who killed George Floyd 

Participating: Lenny M., Paul G. & the Millennials 

Mar 29, 202101:37:01
Boulder King Soopers Massacre

Boulder King Soopers Massacre

The gang reacts to yet another mass shooting that hits all too close to home. 

Mar 28, 202150:07
Royal Toilet Flush: Meghan Markle & Prince Harry Put British Monarchy on Blast

Royal Toilet Flush: Meghan Markle & Prince Harry Put British Monarchy on Blast

Breaking down the fallout from Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's bombshell interview with Oprah. 


Mar 15, 202101:10:11
NFL's Highest Paid Players 2021

NFL's Highest Paid Players 2021

As we venture further into the offseason, ever so slowly creeping up to the NFL Draft, we take a look at the top 24 player salaries. Who's overpaid? Who is underpaid? Join us for a breakdown of the NFL's player salary landscape. 

Mar 08, 202128:34
Cancel Culture or Consequence Culture: Dr. Seuss & Mr. Potato Head

Cancel Culture or Consequence Culture: Dr. Seuss & Mr. Potato Head

Dr, Seuss and Mr. are this weeks cancel culture victims. With sales of each skyrocketing, was it just a marketing ploy to inflate the cash value of their products. Everyone seems outraged one way or the other, which made for a fun, spirited discussion on the pervasive nature of cancel culture and its impact on modern day life. 

Mar 07, 202134:33
The Current State of CTE in Sports

The Current State of CTE in Sports

The TLD crew looks at the modern day state of CTE in sports with a special focus on the impact of the disease on football. 

Head Coach Jeremy Bennett joins in to talk about the impact of CTE on the coaching profession. 

Mar 02, 202138:28
Andrew Cuomo Caught Between the Moon & New York City

Andrew Cuomo Caught Between the Moon & New York City

The gang goes over the recent scandals that have rocked the New York Governor, Andrew Cuomo  

Mar 01, 202126:18
Top 10 Movie Lawyers

Top 10 Movie Lawyers

We list out the best attorneys to ever grace the silver screen. 

Feb 26, 202118:36
Ted Cruz & The Texas Public Utility Catastrophe

Ted Cruz & The Texas Public Utility Catastrophe

From Lying Ted to Flying Ted: Cruz Vacations During the Texas Public Utility Catastrophe

The Brutal Winter Storm that hit Texas and nearly destroyed it's power grid is discussed along with the actions of Senator Ted Cruz who high-tailed it to Cancún, Mexico.

Feb 23, 202122:07
Ghislaine Maxwell Reveals Epstein Had Secret Videos of Bill Clinton & Trump

Ghislaine Maxwell Reveals Epstein Had Secret Videos of Bill Clinton & Trump

Len and Paul bring you up to speed on the latest in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. 

Feb 21, 202132:36
The Most Underrated & Overrated Bands Vol. 2

The Most Underrated & Overrated Bands Vol. 2

We respond to listener reaction from our previous Overrated/Underrated music segment. 

Feb 20, 202127:40
Top 5 Most Overrated & Underrated Actors and Actresses

Top 5 Most Overrated & Underrated Actors and Actresses

Our list of most OVERRATED Actors & Actresses:

  • Nicholas Cage
  • Ashton Kutcher
  • James Franco
  • Adam Sandler
  • Tom Cruise
  • Liam Neeson
  • Keanu Reeves
  • Katherine Heigl
  • Charlie Sheen
  • Kristen Stewart
  • Ben Affleck
  • Ellen/Elliot Paige
  • Chuck Norris
  • Owen Wilson

Most UNDERRATED Actors & Actresses:

  • Benecio Del Toro
  • Mark Ruffalo
  • Bill Hadar
  • John Leguizamo
  • Charlize Theron
  • Kate McKinnon
  • Jake Gyllenhaal
  • Michael Pena
  • Bradley Cooper

Most UNDERRATED Movie:

  • Lenny: Hangover 1, 2 & 3
  • Paul: The 5 Heartbeats
  • Anz: The Best of Times
Feb 15, 202129:45
Impeachment Autopsy 2.0

Impeachment Autopsy 2.0

Lenny & Paul react to the second acquittal of Donald J. Trump 

Feb 14, 202129:20
Worst Owners in Pro Sports History

Worst Owners in Pro Sports History

The fellas run through a list of the worst owners in the history of professional sports. 

Feb 10, 202130:47
Wallstreetbets Bitch Slaps Wall Street Establishment

Wallstreetbets Bitch Slaps Wall Street Establishment

It's the GEEKS (reddit) versus the GREEDY (Wall St. Short Sellers)! 

Len and Paul discuss the impact that the subreddit r/wallstreetbets 

Feb 02, 202132:37
Battle of the Bands: Overrated vs. Underrated

Battle of the Bands: Overrated vs. Underrated

Lenny and Paul discuss the most overrated and underrated musical acts. Included in this edition are the likes of The Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Rush, Journey, Guns and Roses, The Eagles, Eminem, Kanye West, Sean Puffy Combs, Tesla, Heart, Grateful Dead, The Doors and others. Find out which side of the ledger these acts land on in this edition of the Legal Dispute with Lenny & Paul


Jan 24, 202125:04
Examining Biden's Executive Orders

Examining Biden's Executive Orders

Joe Biden has been busy, having issued a whopping 30 executive orders in his first 12 days in office.  In this episode, Paul and Len discuss the pros and cons, with particular attention paid to the executive orders impacting the environment, jobs, and immigration. 

Jan 24, 202141:56
Insurrection Autopsy, Lauren Boebert, Countdown to Inauguration Day

Insurrection Autopsy, Lauren Boebert, Countdown to Inauguration Day

This week Lenny & Paul analyze the fallout from the Trump Insurrection, controversial Congresswoman Lauren Boebert (R-CO), and then they look forward to what is to come in the coming Inauguration 

Jan 17, 202101:14:32
Blanket Pardons, Pre-Pardons, Self-Pardons: What Trump can, could and probably will do - BONUS SEGMENT

Blanket Pardons, Pre-Pardons, Self-Pardons: What Trump can, could and probably will do - BONUS SEGMENT

Sometimes the debate is so good that further discussion is required. Welcome to the Legal Dispute Sidebars. 

In this bonus episode, Leonard uses his 25+ years of legal practice to delves into more interesting aspects of how presidential pardons work and what Donald Trump's flirtation with self-pardons, blanket-pardons, and pre-pardons - what are the constitutional impacts of any of these unprecedented potentialities?  

Brought to you by AttorneyDocs.com - Winning Legal Documents From the World's Top Lawyers

Jan 16, 202118:27
The Storming of the US Capitol

The Storming of the US Capitol

Paul & Len discuss the disturbing riot that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. 

First segment the guys go over the particulars involved, later the focus moves to where the nation goes from here including the banning of Donald J. Trump from social media. 



Jan 10, 202101:01:15
New Year's Special

New Year's Special

Join us in a joyous, lively celebration of the changing of the year. 

Paul, Len and Andre reflect on the lessons learned in 2020 while pontificating and predicting what is to come in the coming year. 


Jan 03, 202135:36
Nashville Bombing & Georgia Senate Runoff

Nashville Bombing & Georgia Senate Runoff

  • Christmas Morning RV Bombing (Nashville, TN)
  • Election Result Law Suits 
  • Electoral College Certification & GOP Challengers
  • College & NFL Playoffs
  • Biden's Inauguration 
  • Stimulus Money, tax cuts, the national debt, 
  • Georgia Senate Runoff; 
  • Mitch McConnel and our broken, shithead congress


Jan 03, 202155:28
College & NFL Playoffs, Broncos Season Obituary + Biden’s Cabinet

College & NFL Playoffs, Broncos Season Obituary + Biden’s Cabinet

21 - Presidential Pardons, Biden's Cabinet, NCAAF Playoffs, & Denver Broncos Season Obituary

Dec 27, 202039:43
The Restaurant & Retail Apocalypse

The Restaurant & Retail Apocalypse

Paul and Len discuss the crippling blow to the restaurant and retail industries brought on by covid pandemic. 

Dec 27, 202022:43
Election Recap & Return from Quarantine

Election Recap & Return from Quarantine

The guys are back! Fresh off a covid-forced hiatus the fellas breakdown the outcome of the 2020 general election.  Latest news and events are discussed and debated. 

Dec 27, 202026:31
Election Night 2020

Election Night 2020

On the eve of the 2020 Election, 

Paul (Republican) v. Lenny (Die Hard Liberal) join the @webgiant (Moderate) to prognosticate and prepare for the most turbulent elections in the country's history.


Nov 03, 202059:03
Nomination of Amy Coney Barrett

Nomination of Amy Coney Barrett

Paul and Len breakdown the nomination of ACB to the U.S. Supreme Court. The discussion comes with just 18 days until election day. Against this backdrop, the fellas discuss the political and social impacts of the proposition of ACB's pending nomination. Leonard took great exception to the republicans tactics to "rush" the nomination. Leonard also posits that the way the democrats have handled this nomination has been "brilliant". 

Oct 17, 202038:38
Mass Shooting Lawsuits

Mass Shooting Lawsuits

Some of the worst massacres and terrorist attacks in the country's history have ended up in the courts in one fashion or another. In this episode, we discuss some of the most noteworthy cases and how their differing conclusions reflects the intensity of the contention revolving around the issue of gun rights. 

Oct 17, 202040:01
MGM Resorts vs. Victims of the Vegas Massacre

MGM Resorts vs. Victims of the Vegas Massacre

Conflict of interest with victim settlement case: 

  • Judge in the lawsuit case Jennifer Togliatti is the daughter of George Toglatti, who was the VP of Security for MGM Resorts International at the time of the shooting
  • 200 security cctv cameras in and around the properties were inoperable or malfunctioned on oct 1 
  • Robert Eglet attorney who initially went after MGM after the incident then flipped
  • MGM has vast corporate resources to help control media narrative 

Paul and Len Discuss legal aspects of the the lawsuit, the countersuit, and settlement

  • Over 4,500 claimants in the lawsuit filed against MGM Resorts International
  • MGM Resorts International Sued for negligence related to incident
  • Paddock was allowed to move 21 sets of luggage to his room over the course of his stay, multiple times allowed to take the employee/freight elevator 
  • Property was not properly zoned nor outfitted to allow for safe evacuation in the event of an emergency
  • MGM claimed that they were not liable because they “were not aware that such an incident was possible” 
  • HOWEVER, an incident at the hotel took place in the year prior where an unrelated hotel guest was found to have setup a sniper's nest in his hotel room
  • pre-settlement estimates had the victim payout valued in the multiple billions of dollars 
  • Settled for $736 million 
  • With insurance coverage MGM will actually only pay out $49 million dollars of the 736 mil. settlement 
  • 736 million dollars split among 4500 people   [how much to the attorneys?]
Background / Misc. Notes:

Auxiliary Facts:

  • Paddock Wired 100,000 to his gf prior to shooting, supposedly for a new home
  • Paddock was a successful business man and neo-professional gambler and his wagering of 1.3+ million dollars in the week leading up to the shooting was not out of his ordinary
  • Paddock was not under financial distress at the time of the shooting. However he was
  • Paddock Planned the shooting as far out as 6 months
  • Paddock scouted Multiple targets
    • Rented room at the Ogden on the opposite side of the strip where a Life is Beautiful Music Fest was taking place
    • Researched this music festival and grounds in similar ways to Route 91 Harvest Festival
    • Similarly looked into potential targets in Chicago, IL in the summer of 2016
  • Documentary watch: Money Machine
Oct 10, 202038:33
Trump's Supreme Court

Trump's Supreme Court

Two sides square off in this contentious debate over the current supreme court vacancy. With the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett all but inevitable, the resulting impact is given sincere analysis. 

Other aspects of the current predicament are discussed, in the backdrop of the supreme court activity going back decades. The result proved a lively and spirited argument by two guys with two distinct interpretations of the supreme court's ideal structure and embodiment. 

Possible solutions are delved into, highlighted by the possibility that the democrats will move to add to the justice count or possibly aim to institute other judicial control measures such as term limits or re-redistricting within the senate itself. 

Oct 10, 202040:32
Van Halen vs. Van Hagar

Van Halen vs. Van Hagar

Paul and Len are both fervent Van Halen fans. However, they have differing opinions on which iteration of the legendary band is best. 

In light of the recent passing of rock-n-roll legend Eddie Van Halen, the fellas discuss various aspects of the rock band's history and eventually they get into the everlasting debate that will forever surround their legacy: was the band better with David Lee Roth or Sammy Haggar? 

While detailing their respective stances on the debate, the guys reminisce on some of their joint memories about Van Halen. 


Oct 10, 202016:34
Clinton and Comey

Clinton and Comey

Following the release of Showtime's docudrama "The Comey Rule", Paul and Len delve into a quite spirited debate over the legal legacy laid forth by the Hillary Clinton and James Comey affair. The conversation is set against the backdrop of the current election season and within it, the guys try to extrapolate some lasting impacts that Clinton and Comey affair will have on the current and future elections.  


Sep 30, 202049:12
Breonna Taylor Grand Jury Case

Breonna Taylor Grand Jury Case

Paul and Len discuss the legal details surrounding the $12 million dollar settlement in the Breonna Taylor civil rights case in Louisville, KY. The broader subjects of settlements, civil rights, policing and the differences between criminal and civil law. 

Sep 29, 202028:59
Legal Issues of the NFL, NCAA, NBA, MLB

Legal Issues of the NFL, NCAA, NBA, MLB

Join us for a rousing run through the trending topics in sports with special attention paid toward the various legal issues that impact the world of sports! 

Besides being two legal geeks, our two hosts are also heartedly passionate football aficionados, having spent time on the gridiron both as players and as coaches. With their ardent sports knowledge combined with their propensity for witty banter, Paul & Len will keep you informed and entertained as they browse the supermarket of sports. 

Beyond football, Paul & Len keep abreast of all the major happenings in baseball, basketball, hockey and all other matters of athletic competition.

After covering some intense legal topics, it's nice to take a stroll through the toy department of life, sports!  

Sep 19, 202041:59
Police vs. Payouts: Excessive Force & Wrongful Death Suits

Police vs. Payouts: Excessive Force & Wrongful Death Suits

Paul and Len sit down for a frank discussion about the Breonna Taylor excessive force lawsuit. After detailing the specifics of the case, Paul and Len debate the larger impact that the case is having on the entire country.  

In the course of the discourse, general facts about excessive force & wrongful death lawsuits are covered with Len drawing from his own direct experience with these delicate cases. 

As per usual, the episode tries to touch on all sides of the issue at hand. In this case, we go into the impact that the 2020 social justice movement is having on police and the incredibly difficult job they are levied with.  

What to do when social unrest culminates in violence against police officers. Later, Paul expounds upon the immensely stupid case in California where a city manager found himself in hot water for controversial tweets he posted from his personal social media accounts. The tricky first amendment issues are discussed therein. 

Breonna Taylor Lawsuit Settlement,  

Excessive Force & Wrongful Death Lawsuits, 

Violence Against Police, 

Social Media and Workplace Free Speech

Sep 18, 202037:48
I Pledge A Grievance: Patriotism in Public Schools

I Pledge A Grievance: Patriotism in Public Schools

The legalities of teaching patriotism in public education. 

What are the legal issues surrounding the teaching of patriotism in public schools? Paul and Len take on this issue on the heels of President Trump campaigning against education reform in an effort to adhere to traditional educational mores and themes. 

Is it constitutional for public school children to have to learn a highly patriotic rubric stipulated by the federal government. 

Our hosts drawn upon their own history being educated in private, Catholic schools and debate the future of public education in America.

Sep 17, 202025:21
Chaos in Kenosha & The 2020 Social Justice Movement

Chaos in Kenosha & The 2020 Social Justice Movement

Paul and Lenny discuss the ever impactful legal implications brought forth by the 2020 Social Justice Movement in light of the events that took place in Kenosha, WI.

Together, the guys analyze the impacts that the 2020 BLM social justice movement is having on our broader society. Emotional events that we have laid witness to have stirred our society to its very core. No matter which side of the argument you find yourself on, having a solid understanding of the legal implications of this still evolving social justice movement. 

Paul and Len use their legal knowledge and insight to try and determine the just and rightful outcomes to today's most stirring legal controversies.  

Aug 29, 202043:12
Jail vs. Bail: Is The Bond System Broken?

Jail vs. Bail: Is The Bond System Broken?

Is The Bond System Broken?, Trump's Taxes, Steve Bannon Busted + The Return of Sports with Coach Jeremy Bennett 

To reduce the density of inmates and curb the spread of the coronavirus, correctional facilities nationwide released more than 16,000 people from incarceration.

The pandemic is now forcing local criminal justice systems to take stock of who is in their jails and why.

With no bonds to post, many bail bond companies have had to lay off their entire staff.

Lenny & Gaudet dive into opposite sides of the battle over the bail bonds system. Also, the guys discuss the latest in the SDNY's case against Trump's taxes as well as Steve Bannon getting booked on fraud. 

Aug 22, 202038:49
Landlords vs. Tenants: Eviction Law Protection

Landlords vs. Tenants: Eviction Law Protection

Eviction Law and the Covid-19 Real Estate Crisis

In this episode... The gloves come off as the Lawyer and the Layman find themselves on opposite ends of the debate over how evictions should be handled in the face of the Coronavirus.

The fellas debate differing sides of the morality and legality tied to the real estate crisis brought on by the Covid-19 pandemic. The debate gets spirited to say the least as Lawyer and the Layman find themselves on opposite ends of the spectrum of this argument.

After highlighting the the impacts on society that the rise in pending evictions will assuredly have on society, the discussion then delves into the legality (and morality) of evicting tenants in the face of such a drastic economic downturn. 

Aug 22, 202039:39
Coronavirus Law Suits: From Covid Parties to the Classroom

Coronavirus Law Suits: From Covid Parties to the Classroom

As we as a society continue to grapple with the never-ending effects of the global Covid-19 pandemic, questions abound regarding disease liability. Given that there are no parts of society sparred from Covid's wrath, the possibility of someone being sued due to it is ever present. Leonard and Paul discuss various aspects of how the law is being defined during the pandemic.

Later the fellas touch on the delicate nature of sending students and teachers back to school and how to best go about keeping one's sanity in such treacherous legal times.

Aug 15, 202019:49
Infection Protection: Covid-19 & The Law

Infection Protection: Covid-19 & The Law

In the third installment, the Lenny & Gaudet discuss newly mandated mask "laws" and the overall impact that such ordinances will have on businesses and society abroad.

Aug 08, 202022:39
Epstein and Ghislaine & Social Media Law

Epstein and Ghislaine & Social Media Law

In this segment the Lenny & Gaudet recap recent developments in the Jefferey Epstein saga as well as looking back at Kobe Bryant's acquittal from his 2003 sexual assault case. Later, the guys delve into the immense impact that social media has on legal cases.

Aug 08, 202022:55
Federal vs. State Policing

Federal vs. State Policing

1 - Federal v State Policing, The Legal Implications of the 2020 Social Justice Movement

Take a tour around the world of law with Paul & Len: two lifelong friends taking on the task of deliberating all the hottest topics impacting the law and the legal profession. 

Our inaugural segment! The Lawyer & The Layman sit down to discuss the legal implications of recent measures taken by the federal government to police on the state level.

Court is now is session. 

Aug 02, 202017:42