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Eggshells

By Lizzie Bourne

The podcast exploring disagreement, and how to do it better.
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Listening as Co-Conspirator - with Ashley Duncan

EggshellsJul 05, 2022

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Listening as Co-Conspirator - with Ashley Duncan
Jul 05, 202234:28
Find Moments of Justice - with David Cornish
Jun 21, 202201:00:10
Who We Are - with Nushy Rose

Who We Are - with Nushy Rose

We interrupt your regular programming to bring you - THE EGGSHELLS INTERVIEWS.

In these full interviews with our guests, expect excellent insights amid rambling chat, as together we explore how to disagree better. We're sharing our guest's words in context so that you can delve deeper into a conversation of your choice with an Eggshells' guest you love.

Nushy Rose is currently Senior Digital Content Manager at Save the Children, and was previously Managing Editor of opinions platform Parlia, where she investigated why we think what we think using experimental multiplatform content. She was on NBCUniversal's prestigious Future Leaders Programme, and spent 2 years at Sky writing and producing viral conspiracy theory videos.

https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/nushy-rose

Nushy has featured heavily in recent Eggshells episodes (Identity x3, Power & Privilege and Social Media) so it's likely you have already heard a lot of the content of our conversation. Good to hear the tales in context though (along with our witty banter)!

This episode was recorded remotely on 4th May 2021. There’s quite a lot in this conversation that dates it (although “most people are mad at this conservative government” has sure stood the test of time)!

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Jun 07, 202201:17:07
You Can't Prove Anything - with Georgia Lockwood Estrin
May 24, 202259:38
Social Media - Arguing: fun or futile?

Social Media - Arguing: fun or futile?

May 10, 202201:10:28
Truth - Part 2 - Conspiracies and the truth online

Truth - Part 2 - Conspiracies and the truth online

This is our second episode discussing Truth - in it, we chat conspiracy theories and discuss how to locate The Truth (is it out there? Spoiler: maybe).

Guest bios:

Georgia Lockwood Estrin: https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/georgia-lockwood-estrin

Nushy Rose: https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/nushy-rose

Liz Letsoalo: https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/liz-letsoalo

Enjoying Eggshells? Tell your friends and family! We are an independent podcast working entirely for free because we love this. Currently the best way to support our work is to drive up engagement, so please share in conversation and on social media.

This episode was recorded in Impact Brixton @impactbrixton

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Apr 26, 202225:29
Truth - Part 1 - Stats and other tricks
Apr 12, 202242:18
Power and Privilege - Part Two - Find Your Power
Mar 29, 202201:09:40
Power and Privilege - with Liz Letsoalo

Power and Privilege - with Liz Letsoalo

We interrupt your regular programming to bring you - THE EGGSHELLS INTERVIEWS.

In these full interviews with our guests, expect excellent insights amid rambling chat, as together we explore how to disagree better! We're sharing our guest's words in context so that you can delve deeper into a conversation of your choice with an Eggshells' guest you love.

Liz Letsoalo is an entrepreneur and Speaker who is on a journey to public service. With experience in strategy and operations from three multinational companies, and is the founder of beauty brand Masodi Organics. She considers herself to be primarily in the business of transforming beauty and its standards to achieve more equitable, realistic and thoughtful standards that empower and uplift beauty in all its forms. Liz has delivered a TEDx talk on the politics of power, and aims to use both her speaking and entrepreneurial initiatives to serve South Africa and the world.

https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/liz-letsoalo

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Mar 15, 202255:55
Choosing your words - with Alba Woolard

Choosing your words - with Alba Woolard

Mar 01, 202247:31
Identity - Part 3 - Who Do You Think You Are?

Identity - Part 3 - Who Do You Think You Are?

This is the third of three episodes on Identity and this fortnight, we’re discussing how we define ourselves, why we long to belong, and whether we can obtain social equity (how much progress means it’s fixed?).

Reminder that Eggshells is now released fortnightly! If you miss us on the week off, why not go to the website and sign up for our newsletter? www.theeggshellspodcast.com

Please kindly note (for all episodes but this one especially): in Eggshells, we aim to include something for everyone. However, we’re here talking about identity as cisgendered, white, middle class, non-disabled females. If your identities are different from ours we hope you’ll still get something from this, but we understand we won’t have travelled far enough outside our own lens. We’re pleased to welcome guests who have other identities and we may make more episodes, with more guests, on this topic.

Guest Bios:

Nushy Rose - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/nushy-rose

Neila Romdane - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/neila-romdane

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Feb 15, 202240:04
Identity - Part 2 - Woke and Cancel Culture

Identity - Part 2 - Woke and Cancel Culture

Feb 01, 202228:22
Identity - Part 1 - Identity Politics

Identity - Part 1 - Identity Politics

Hola and welcome to the first of THREE episodes on Identity. Duh duh duhhhh. This week, we’re defining Identity Politics, asking why it exists, and discussing whether it’s important.

Reminder that Eggshells is now released fortnightly! If you miss us on the week off, why not go to the website and sign up for our newsletter? www.theeggshellspodcast.com

Please kindly note (for all episodes but this one especially): in Eggshells, we aim to include something for everyone. However, we’re here talking about identity as cisgendered, white, middle class, non-disabled females. If your identities are different from ours we hope you’ll still get something from this, but we understand we won’t have travelled far enough outside our own lens. We’re pleased to welcome guests who have other identities, and we may make more episodes, with more guests with other identities, on this topic (beyond those scheduled in the coming weeks!).

Guest Bios:

Ashley Duncan - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/ashley-duncan

Nushy Rose - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/nushy-rose

Raymi Ortuste Quiroga - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/raymi-ortuste-quiroga

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Jan 18, 202236:08
Articulation - say what you mean, mean what you say
Jan 04, 202248:22
Duncan - The Eggshells Interviews

Duncan - The Eggshells Interviews

We interrupt your regular programming to bring you - THE EGGSHELLS INTERVIEWS.

In these full interviews with our guests, expect excellent insights amid rambling chat, as together we explore how to disagree better! We're sharing our guest's words in context so that you can delve deeper into a conversation of your choice with an Eggshells' guest you love.

Duncan is a fountain of empathy knowledge and talks to us about the science of empathy, understanding why people might behave the way they do and why sorry can be problematic. We are grateful to Duncan for his thoughtful insights and playful spirit. This is an interview to listen to if you want to explore human behaviour more deeply, if you liked the Empathy episode, and if you want to know more about how our individual histories influence the way we disagree.

Duncan is the founding director of Useful and Kind Unlimited and of the Mindful Leadership Foundation. He has worked as a therapeutic coach, facilitator and trainer. He has advanced psychotherapy training and is constantly trying to find ways to use the latest learning in the service of others. https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/duncan-fraser

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Dec 28, 202155:05
Bella - The Eggshells Interviews

Bella - The Eggshells Interviews

We interrupt your regular programming to bring you - THE EGGSHELLS INTERVIEWS.

In these full interviews with our guests, expect excellent insights amid rambling chat, as together we explore how to disagree better! We're sharing our guest's words in context so that you can delve deeper into a conversation of your choice with an Eggshells' guest you love.

Arabella Gibbins’ special subject is breath and she gives us some fantastic exercises and insights in this interview. She explains fight, flight and freeze to us - she speaks about and advocates for breathwork in so many different forms, especially useful if you're a beginner - she talks about emotions, empathy and arguing with her family - basically, she’s incredibly generous with her time and words. This is an interview to listen to if you want to learn how to manage your emotions during disagreement, if you liked the fight/flight/freeze episodes, and also one to return to if you find Bella’s voice and general self to be as soothing as we do!

Bella is a voice coach, songwriter and, in her words, a lifelong learner. She teaches singing, she trained as an actor during which time she was introduced to a range of vocal approaches and practitioners, and so after a few years she decided to complete her MFA in Voice Studies. She then joined the Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts as a voice tutor. She runs Voice, Breath & Wellbeing workshops around the UK (https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/bella-gibbins).

REFERENCES:

  • Polyvagal Theory, Stephen Porges: https://www.stephenporges.com/
  • Emotional trigger definition: An emotional trigger is anything — including memories, experiences, or events — that sparks an intense emotional reaction, regardless of your current mood. Emotional triggers are frequently associated with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
  • “The Body Keeps the Score” is a book by Bessel Van Der Kolk.
  • Some examples of Breathwork that Bella mentions:

- Transformational - https://www.transformationalbreath.co.uk

- Holotropic - http://www.holotropic.com/holotropic-breathwork/about-holotropic-breathwork/

- Ecstatic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNh3mMwKSfw (haven’t watched this one - let me know if you do!)

- Biodynamic https://www.biodynamicbreath.com

  • https://ww2.onecommune.com - Very shiny website that promotes wellness. Various different courses available on there.
  • https://www.wimhofmethod.com - Conscious breathwork
  • Pranayama Definition - Balancing Life Force. An example is alternate nostril breathing - Yoga With Adriene has a good youtube video breaking this down - https://youtu.be/8VwufJrUhic
  • Iyengar Yoga - The moment you want to come out of the pose is when you should stay in it: https://www.ekhartyoga.com/articles/practice/what-is-iyengar-yoga
  • “Discomfort is growth” - Sanjay Gupta (Armchair Expert podcast episode that Lizzie mentions: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3tAiYCCP4MfzjvCqh7jDGN)
  • Professionals whose work Bella mentions:

- Eric Franklin - Movement practitioner

- Peter Levine - Clinical Psychologist https://www.somaticexperiencing.com/about-peter

- Dan Siegal - https://drdansiegel.com - “Flipping your lid” clip on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0T_2NNoC68&t=124s

There are lots of diagrams explaining the “Hand model of the brain” on Google images.

- Gabor Maté - https://drgabormate.com

  • TRE - Trauma prevention work https://traumaprevention.com
  • “If in Doubt Breathe Out” book by Ron Morris & Linda Hutchison

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Dec 21, 202101:15:23
Listening - a misplaced art?

Listening - a misplaced art?

"Say it in my good ear, dear!"

In this episode on Listening, we're not talking about non-verbal utterances ("Mmhmm!" "Ah!"). We're not talking about nodding. We're not actually really talking about body language. 

Instead we're talking about attention and how to use it. We're talking about sharing the floor, and how to do so without giving away our power. And, mostly, we're talking about questions.

Guest bios:

Ashley Duncan - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/ashley-duncan

David Cornish - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/david-cornish

Duncan Fraser - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/duncan-fraser

Raymi Ortuste Quiroga https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/raymi-ortuste-quiroga

  • Article that Ashley refers to about listening coaching from Zenger & Folkman: https://hbr.org/2016/07/what-great-listeners-actually-do
  • Instagram account Hannah mentions is @lalalaletmeexplain - her bio describes her as: Sex & Dating Educator, Author, Qualified social worker - she is really worth a follow because she is amazing as well as being incredibly direct and not taking any crap
  • Truth and reconciliation trials in South Africa: https://www.usip.org/publications/1995/12/truth-commission-south-africa
  • Exercise from Duncan:
  1. Let one person speak
  2. Second person listens trying to figure out what’s going on for that person, not just from their words but the feeling
  3. Second person then repeats what they’ve heard back using the language of the first person

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Dec 14, 202146:55
Fight, Flight, Freeze - Remember to Breathe...
Dec 07, 202131:32
Fight, flight, freeze (or when your nervous system thinks they're a bear)
Nov 30, 202130:48
Empathy - and why it's excellent

Empathy - and why it's excellent

"Empathy drives connection, sympathy drives disconnection."

In this episode Lizzie and Hannah ask what empathy is, how it works, and whether it's useful when you're disagreeing with people. We cover kindness, compassion, and ask if empathy in a disagreement is the same as acceptance of someone's dislikeable point of view?

This episode features the following fabulous guests:

Duncan Fraser - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/duncan-fraser

Ashley Duncan - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/ashley-duncan

Bella Gibbins - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/bella-gibbins

Liz Letsoalo - https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/team-1/liz-letsoalo

An episode on Power & Privilege is in the works - check back in 2022, but for now you can listen to Liz’s and in fact all our guests’ full interviews on our website: https://www.theeggshellspodcast.com/podcast

https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/blog/2020/07/10/what-is-empathy-disorder#accept-cookies

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Nov 23, 202141:22
Welcome to Eggshells: the what, the who and the why

Welcome to Eggshells: the what, the who and the why

Hey, we’re Eggshells - the podcast exploring disagreement and how to do it better. We ask how we can make difficult conversations easier to have, by exploring solutions to the challenges we all face when having them.

This mini-ep introduces you to hosts Lizzie and Hannah, who tell you what you can expect from Eggshells and why they're making it.

Subscribe on your favourite podcast channel - you can also follow Eggshells on Instagram @theeggshellspodcast plus get more information at www.theeggshellspodcast.com

Thank you for tuning in! We know you have a lot of choice and we're chuffed you're here.

Nov 16, 202108:32