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Man in Many Roles Podcast

Man in Many Roles Podcast

By Michael Lovett

A podcast dedicated to offering, creating, and building understanding about how to live well as one soul in many roles--as a whole and holy self, in my case as a son, brother, lover/ husband, dad, leader and follower. This podcast is both for men and those who love them. More at manyroles.com. Email manyroles@icloud.com for more info, to contact the host, Michael Lovett, or podcast guests, or to comment directly. Follow on Twitter: twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: instagram.com/maninmanyroles.
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Emma Fetherman: Listening To and Learning From Youth
Emma Fetherman: Listening To and Learning From Youth
I decided to ask for the perspective of younger folks in my spiritual community, and Emma Fetherman was glad to oblige.  She is in her college years, and I was appreciative of several nuggets of wisdom she offered.  This conversation proved to me that great things (and great conversations) happen when we show up for younger people with open ears and real questions.  Listen in!  Emma's happy to connect if something she shares resonates with you: @emmaftmn Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
50:32
July 01, 2022
Matt Anjilivelil: Inspired Living, & Reimagined Bible Studies as a Path to Christian Conversion
Matt Anjilivelil: Inspired Living, & Reimagined Bible Studies as a Path to Christian Conversion
Matt is a follower of Jesus for over 36 years now, and has been married for over 25.  He works with campus students and youth, and has a lot to say about how relational God is, and how that should affect the way we teach folks about God, and how we ourselves should relate well to God.  Listen in for ideas and inspiration in your personal life, parenting, and bible studies with others.  Download Matt's Drawing Near to God Series at: https://tinyurl.com/drawingneartogod Matt highly recommends Surrender to Love by David G Brenner. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
53:11
June 24, 2022
Why Sabbath?
Why Sabbath?
This April riff may become a series.  Why should we stop, rest, or sabbath? Whatever you might call it or know it to be, I have found it is one of the most rewarding and (currently) difficult habits to form.  "Easy everywhere" technology as described by Andy Crouch actually runs huge interference on the practice of stopping.  We need lots of motivation to overcome what is coming against our rest. Today's episode is all about 10 reasons I think you should stop and seriously consider stopping what you are doing for 24 hours a week.  I hope you find it helpful. Let's get our rest on! Consider some of the resources I mention in this episode... Wayne Muller's Sabbath  John Mark Comer's The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry and Rich Villodas' The Deeply Formed Life and The BEMA Podcast ...for more Sabbath inspiration. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
34:11
April 17, 2022
Why Counseling?
Why Counseling?
A spring riff on why we need counseling at times in our life based on a very helpful quote my wife and I were talking about recently: "We go to counseling to understand issues and wounds so that we can repent and forgive" Mark Priday, Counselor.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
29:09
April 10, 2022
Pat Lin Hachiya, Part 2: Chinese American Woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow in Many Roles
Pat Lin Hachiya, Part 2: Chinese American Woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow in Many Roles
In this second part of two, Women's History Month continues on the podcast.  We get the pleasure of witnessing a courageous woman sharing her vulnerable story of life as a woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow.  Pat Lin Hachiya is a sister in Christ, a friend, a public servant who's worked over 20 years in Los Angeles County and who has followed Jesus for more than 30 years.  She is a precious soul, who is sharing her story of losing her husband Scott 7 years ago, what it was like to lose her husband, Scott, and how she is striving to live well now.  In this second part, she speaks about life as a widow in a spiritual community who is still growing and learning how to support one another in loss. This episode wraps Women's History Month, 2022.  Thanks for listening!  Look back at earlier episodes for more learning from the lives and stories of women. In this episode, Pat refers to the book, The Best Yes, By Lysa TerKeurst.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
36:55
March 31, 2022
Pat Lin Hachiya, Part 1: Chinese American Woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow in Many Roles
Pat Lin Hachiya, Part 1: Chinese American Woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow in Many Roles
In this first part of two, Women's History Month continues on the podcast.  We get the pleasure of witnessing a courageous woman sharing her vulnerable story of life as a woman, Christian, Mom, and Widow.  Pat Lin Hachiya is a sister in Christ, a friend, a public servant who's worked over 20 years in Los Angeles County and who has followed Jesus for more than 30 years.  She is a precious soul, who is sharing her story of losing her husband Scott 7 years ago, what it was like to lose her husband, Scott, and how she is striving to live well now.  In this first part, she speaks about life as a Chinese-American woman, a Christian, and as a widow. Pat refers to the book, Getting to the Other Side of Grief  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
47:42
March 25, 2022
Wendi Gorelik, Part 2: How To Keep Moving Forward When We Are All Homesick for Heaven
Wendi Gorelik, Part 2: How To Keep Moving Forward When We Are All Homesick for Heaven
Here’s part two of a conversation I really enjoyed with Wendi Gorelik. She is a great friend and sister in Christ.  She is devoted to making the world a more equitable place, and she loves teaching.  She keeps Women's History Month 2022 going with a deep dive into her roles as a woman, mom, wife, and teacher in higher education. Be sure to tune in to the previous episode to hear part one of this powerful conversation.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
37:31
March 18, 2022
Wendi Gorelik, Part 1: How To Keep Moving Forward When We Are All Homesick for Heaven
Wendi Gorelik, Part 1: How To Keep Moving Forward When We Are All Homesick for Heaven
Wendi Gorelik is a great friend and sister in Christ.  She is devoted to making the world a more equitable place, and she loves teaching.  She keeps Women's History Month 2022 going with a deep dive into her roles as a woman, mom, wife, and teacher in higher education. I'm splitting this episode into two parts so we can take it all in... there is much to consider here. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
34:47
March 11, 2022
Mirna Cervantes: The Power of Counseling and Practices Promoting Health (Women's History Month)
Mirna Cervantes: The Power of Counseling and Practices Promoting Health (Women's History Month)
"It's through the pain and challenges that we've been able to find joy and healing."   Mirna Cervantes is simply a beautiful soul who works tirelessly as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Los Angeles.  She is also a mom, a professional, and a devoted follower of Jesus. Mirna is a great friend and the top recommendation of for Women's History Month 2022.  She and her husband have kept doing the hard work of counseling and looking at their wounds.  She is finding that each season of pain and "heart work" sets us up for the next challenge, and deeply grounds us in God, friends, and truth.  Mirna's "Daily Practices That Help Ground Me": https://bit.ly/3HMS66d  PDF of "Taking in the Good" by Rick Hanson, referred to in this episode: https://bit.ly/3674C36 Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
01:04:52
March 04, 2022
Eric Golden: Respect and Detaching from Unconscious Reasons We Do Things (Black History Month)
Eric Golden: Respect and Detaching from Unconscious Reasons We Do Things (Black History Month)
This conversation with Eric Golden, facilitator and Social-Emotional coach, was a gem.  He is a black man, a father, and a professional facilitator, among his many roles.  He shares so many compelling ideas about respecting our children as we raise them, control, boundaries, and how to do the hard work of deconstructing stories and roles we were born into.  I hope you value this podcast as much as I enjoyed recording it... whew! This episode wraps up Black History Month 2022. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: The Man in Manyroles Black History Month Playlist: https://maninmanyroles.blogspot.com/2022/02/black-history-month-2022.html Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
57:17
February 25, 2022
Audrey Blair: Diversity, Life Coaching and Transitioning... and Discomfort (Black History Month)
Audrey Blair: Diversity, Life Coaching and Transitioning... and Discomfort (Black History Month)
BHM 2022 continues with a bright soul and a new friend in my world, Audrey Blair. She is a Professional Life Coach who helps clients get “unstuck” through identifying and removing barriers that get in the way of a fulfilled life. She is also an Associate Faculty at The Center for Creative Leadership (www.ccl.org). She is a wonderful sister in Christ, and shares about the intersection of discomfort and diversity, transition, and the WHY and HOW of living with discomfort for worthy change in our lives.  Connect with Audrey and Her Content: Follow Audrey on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/audreyblair  Interested in working with her? Schedule a consultation call: https://calendly.com/audreyblair/consult  Website: https://www.audreyblair.com  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
01:01:18
February 18, 2022
Traecy Iftodi: Self, Sister, Mother, Divorcée, and African-American Bilingual Educator in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Traecy Iftodi: Self, Sister, Mother, Divorcée, and African-American Bilingual Educator in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Black History Month 2022 continues with Traecy Iftodi.  She is a bright soul, an educator I respect and have worked with, and a sister in Christ. She was eager and gracious to share her story of returning to work in the aftermath of divorce, and reflections on how to support our loved ones and colleagues who might be experiencing divorce.  She unpacks a lot in this episode as she drops multiple "nuggets" of wisdom are along the way. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
01:12:10
February 11, 2022
Tino Seya: Finding Balance Through Identity and Intentionality (Black History Month)
Tino Seya: Finding Balance Through Identity and Intentionality (Black History Month)
BHM 2022 Kicks off with Tino Seya. He is an old friend with a young, vivacious heart--for God and for life, and for others.  Listen in as he riffs on balance, the state of things in the USA, his uniqueness, and the concept of embracing whatever might be going on as we walk with God.  Connect with Tino's Ministry https://southlakecoc.org/  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
52:56
February 04, 2022
Dimitri Clarke Interviews Michael Lovett: Hearing Impaired, but Loving Listening
Dimitri Clarke Interviews Michael Lovett: Hearing Impaired, but Loving Listening
Dimitri has been a source of great joy in my life as I have woken up to how my brothers and sisters of color feel as they move through an unfair world.  We served on the Denver Diversity Exploration Team for a couple of years, where we began enjoying fellowship in which we can discuss nearly anything.  Dimitri set this time up, though, to interview me... about being hearing impaired and how that has affected my life.  I so enjoyed "flipping the script" and letting her lead for an episode.  We realized how wonderful it is when we express mutual curiosity.  Listen in!  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
39:07
January 28, 2022
Hashim Warren: Justice Year, Service, Charity, Friendship, Advocacy
Hashim Warren: Justice Year, Service, Charity, Friendship, Advocacy
Connect with Hashim's Justice Year Content: https://justiceyear.com Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
47:20
January 21, 2022
Vince Vogel: Husband & Father in a Blended Family
Vince Vogel: Husband & Father in a Blended Family
Vince is a good friend and he’s done the work to stay married for 20 years with his wife and engaged with his stepson and daughter. I hope we ask blended family members better questions and support them better after listening to this podcast. If you do live in a blended family I hope this episode validates your experience. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
47:47
January 14, 2022
Jeff Shockley: God of Heaven and Earth...How the Book Began
Jeff Shockley: God of Heaven and Earth...How the Book Began
Jeff Shockley is a husband and a dad in a blended family.  He is a follower of Jesus, and a good friend. He works to love his daughters well, and from loving his youngest (and her friends), a lovely book emerged!  Listen to the story behind his new book, Creator of Heaven and Earth which grew out of discussing honest questions with his teenage daughter. Connect with more of Jeff's Art: shockartexposure.com Purchase Creator of Heaven and Earth on Amazon. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
46:09
January 07, 2022
Saara Haapenen: Move at Work, and Moving from Disappointment to Renewed Vision
Saara Haapenen: Move at Work, and Moving from Disappointment to Renewed Vision
So long, 2021, Happy 2022!  As we move into 2022 it's my pleasure to share my conversation with Saara Haapenen with you.  She greets hundreds of folks every morning with her Move at Work Challenge, in the form of a 5-7 minute video that gets you moving, practicing mindfulness, and simply taking time to take care of yourself.  I enjoy her content, offered as part of my job's wellness efforts.  I was thrilled she agreed to come on the podcast to share more about how she lives well, the power of asking WHY, and some of the challenges she overcame as a high-caliber diver.  This is a great goal setting or New Year listen! Connect with more of Saara's Content: Free mindfulness workbook and guide: https://www.moveatworkchallenge.com/mindfulness Saara's Newsletter: https://www.moveatworkchallenge.com/newsletter Websites: performanceishaapanen.com and moveatworkchallenge.com Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:54
December 31, 2021
Paul Nagakura: Friend, Brother, and Husband as Advocate
Paul Nagakura: Friend, Brother, and Husband as Advocate
Paul Nagakura is a man I’ve known over 20 years. He is an artist, brother, husband and father. He leads a small group in the church we used to attend together in Culver City. He shares about the new chapter he is in after events including George Floyd’s tragic death in 2020 and personal losses in his family. I hope this time with Paul’s kind, clear, strong soul inspires you to be an advocate for someone you care about or with whom you are in community. Paul shares about the book, The Color of Compromise and has graciously shared a Bible study that helped him wake up to his roles of Advocate.
53:02
December 24, 2021
Dr. Tim Sumerlin: "Church is a great place to practice good mental health"
Dr. Tim Sumerlin: "Church is a great place to practice good mental health"
Dr. Timothy Sumerlin has been a disciple for 40 years. Tim lives in Denver, Colorado with his wife Jackie – they have been married 35 years. They have two children (Danielle and Tim), and a brand-new granddaughter, Elsa. He has worked as a counselor for over 30 years and is an adjunct professor at the University of Denver. Tim is the dean of the Counseling Program at the Rocky Mountain School of Ministry and Theology, as well as an elder in the Denver church of Christ.  Tim is the director of In Motion Counseling, which includes the Disciples In Motion, an innovative recovery program for the church setting, and The Grief Journey Program. He has authored two books, Recovery Moving Forward and The Grief Journey: Finding Peace in All of Life’s Losses.   He's also a soul who loves Jesus very much, and feels strongly that the church is a great place to practice good mental health.  Listen in to his experience and consider stimulating categories to reflect on as we move out of 2021 and into 2022 like sabbath, presence, “holding the moment”, and what you might learn from 2 year olds. Connect with more of Tim's Content:  inmotioncounseling.org  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
57:24
December 17, 2021
Joe Hose: From Prisons to Skate Parks
Joe Hose: From Prisons to Skate Parks
Joe Hose is a Son, Brother, Husband, Father, Follower of Jesus, Leader of Professional Learning with the Federal Government, and Leader/Founder of the Colorado Skateboard Society.  He entered education in 2010 following the 2008 housing crash, and found himself in prison... as an educator. After working day to day in a prison, he got to move to Colorado in 2015 to work in "secondary law enforcement" and that's where he and I connected over many early coffees about all things coaching and learning. He covers a lot of ground in his story and offers a great deal of vulnerability.  He's a fellow coach, professional learning nerd, and a man who knows his life purpose (he actually carried his life purpose, written, in his pocket during a recent long tough stretch at work).  His story is compelling and I hope you are as "stoked" to receive it as I was. To connect with the Colorado Skateboarding Society: Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/coloradoskateboardingsociety Website: https://coloradoskateboardingsociety.org Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:24
December 10, 2021
Leo Gonzalez: Calm, Leadership, and Time-outs as a Self & Husband
Leo Gonzalez: Calm, Leadership, and Time-outs as a Self & Husband
Leo Gonzalez is a dear friend and one of a few to whom my wife and I have had the pleasure of offering pre-marital counseling.  He is humble and takes time to share about how calm and leadership interplay as he lives well as a Jesus follower, husband and as a dad. Listen to learn about taking timeouts, staying grounded when getting feedback, and remembering that God thinks we are wonderful!  If  you strive to be reflective and don't mind a "smack on the head" as Leo calls it, you will enjoy this episode. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
50:48
December 03, 2021
Jackie Brewster: Enneagram, Christianity, and Life
Jackie Brewster: Enneagram, Christianity, and Life
How do you connect the enneagram and Christianity?  Jackie Brewster is an enneagram coach who does just that, supporting folks in living better in all their roles. Jackie is a woman in many roles: wife, mom, leader, and Jesus follower.  She is the author of Hearing God Speak:  A 52-Week Enneagram Devotional and in this episode, she shares how she went from no kids to four kids, got into the enneagram, and learned to help others with it.  She even shares some of her story that she's never recorded before. Connect with Jackie's Content: Web: enneagramwithjb.com IG: @enneagramwithjb Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
45:13
November 26, 2021
Trey Morgan of Trey and Lea's Stronger Marriages
Trey Morgan of Trey and Lea's Stronger Marriages
Trey & Lea speak to thousands of couples every year at their marriage workshops. They are authors of the books, 10 Ways to a Stronger Marriage, and, Wisdom for Your Marriage Trey loves to talk about manhood, marriage, and parenting and is simply a joy to listen to.  Enjoy and share this episode with your friends. Connect with Trey and Lea's Content: Web: https://treyandlea.com Twitter: @StrongMarriage5 IG: stronger_marriages Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
48:09
November 19, 2021
Carlos Clarke: How to Age Well
Carlos Clarke: How to Age Well
Carlos Clarke is a Three-Time Champion Weightlifter and a 45+ year follower of Jesus.  Now in his 60s he shares a bit about how to live well, protect your vision, and avoid becoming a grumpy old person. HERE is a video of his recent championship lift! He references a couple of "oldies but goodies" for reading:  More Than a Carpenter, by Josh McDowell The Disciplined Life, by Richard Taylor Basic Christianity, by J.W. Stott Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:26
November 12, 2021
DJ Hapa: Remixing Roles
DJ Hapa: Remixing Roles
Loved this episode, produced by my buddy and former podcast guest, Devon Smith, whose Man in Many Roles episode is HERE. DJ Hapa is a dad, DJ, husband, son, and Jesus follower.  He has taught thousands of people how to DJ.  Thousands.  He is the creator of "A Tribe Called Dad" podcast, and a great man to strike up a friendship or conversation with. His life slogan is, "Follow your heart. Lead with passion"  Listen in for inspiration to live with more passion. Connect with DJ Hapa's Content: hapaworld.com Twitter: @djhapa IG: @djhapa Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
59:19
November 05, 2021
Tim Priestley: "Our roles are a divine way to help us grow"
Tim Priestley: "Our roles are a divine way to help us grow"
Season 10 (and Year 2!) of Man in Many Roles Podcast kicks off with a beautiful interview with my longtime friend and brother in Christ, Tim Priestley.  He is candid and clear about how he makes sense of his roles, and how our roles deepen our spirituality as we pick up and lay down roles.  He shares vulnerably about his divorce after 18 years of marriage and how he had to stop going to "Hope Island" habitually in order to grow. Tim mentions a couple of resources and books that help him: Fathered by God, by John Eldredge Grist for the Mill, by Ram Dass Everything Belongs, by Richard Rohr Sacred Marriage: What if God Wants To Make Us Holy More than to Make us Happy?, by Gary Thomas Falling Upward: A Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life, by Richard Rohr Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
54:29
October 29, 2021
Seeking Sages | Episode 50!
Seeking Sages | Episode 50!
Wow!  This is episode 50.  I hope you enjoy thinking about Chapter 8 of John Eldredge's Fathered by God with me as I riff on what inspires me about the stage of a person's life called Sage, according to Eldredge.  This book was very influential in my parenting and actually led to this podcast in many ways!  We all want a sage and I'm inspired to endeavor to become one.   God, protect us from folly and dismissal as we enter our late 60s and beyond.  Father, please protect us from the ill effects of success and safety.  Help us to engage solitude, stillness, and silence so that we become sages--men and women who live out of a deep communion with you. Also, I reference silence, solitude, and stillness.  I think those 3 S-words will help us become the sages God intends as well as avoid unhealthy success and safety. Let's keep living well as one soul in many roles! Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
31:20
October 22, 2021
Literal, Linear, Monotasking, Easily Distractible: How to Parent Boys with Sanity
Literal, Linear, Monotasking, Easily Distractible: How to Parent Boys with Sanity
Based on a 2015 blog post that I updated last year, I hope you enjoy this episode, even if you don't parent boys.  You are likely a teacher, mentor, uncle/aunt or grandparent. Or I bet you have friends who are boy-like in their thinking. And let's be real.. smartphones are kinda like cocaine in their addictiveness.  We need great ideas and strategies to manage those time and energy-sucking screens.  This episode with help you live well with boys and your easily distracted loved ones and raise them with sanity. Check out the blog this episode is based on, there are great resources there.  Thanks again for tuning in! Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
45:23
October 15, 2021
Doing Things Right vs. Doing Right Things
Doing Things Right vs. Doing Right Things
Based on the feedback I've been getting and self-reflection, in this episode, I riff on the beliefs, attitudes, and habits of doing things right versus doing the right things.. oof... This work takes courage, and I'm not there yet, but I am glad to have you join me on this one as I try to share personally and preach to myself.  I believe there is plenty in this episode to grow in and think about. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
38:17
October 08, 2021
We're All Husbands and Wives
We're All Husbands and Wives
So glad to have you join me for a Fall Riff on the role of Lover.  Lovers are those who appreciate beauty, who offer agape love to a special other, and who allow themselves to be loved with agape love by another.  Yes, this role is about romance, but so much more than romance is wrapped up in the lover role.  When we dare to love another, especially in a commitment like marriage, we all receive and offer love, affection, care, concern.  We all lead and submit and follow.  We are have varying proportions of the masculine and the feminine in our God-given and custom-crafted souls.  I hope you enjoy and experience this podcast as thought-provoking and reflective. I explore how Paul operated as a mother among his converts, and how men and women live in both husband and wife roles when in a committed relationship--dating, friendship, and of course, marriage. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
36:56
October 01, 2021
Investing 101: It's Not About Money
Investing 101: It's Not About Money
In this first fall 2021 riff, I share about the way we all are investing, whether we have a financial adviser, stocks, ETFs, mutual funds or a retirement account or not. We all trust others with valuable things and we all hope that we get a return of some sort on that which we have entrusted.  We also invest in ourselves, too.  It's about making sound investments and being patient as the valuable things we have invested do work in the vest pocket of the one in whom or in which we've in"vest"ed. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
34:44
September 24, 2021
To Be a Son | Late Summer Riff
To Be a Son | Late Summer Riff
I decided to riff on the role of son/ daughter/ child; a role that is at times a source of great pride and gratitude, and at other times, makes me feel accused of dereliction of duty.  When you think about it, there are many more podcasts about how to be a dad than how to be a son.  Why is that?  Well, hopefully, this episode stimulates your thinking, heart, and actions toward all that is good, true and beautiful about being a son, daughter, or child of God.    Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
34:12
September 17, 2021
Vision for the Future and Muddy Windshields
Vision for the Future and Muddy Windshields
What does this episode's title stir in you?  I wasn't initially excited to riff on this topic, but as I thought and prayed about it, this seemed more and more worthy of consideration:  What is the mud on your windshield?  What is messing up your vision, hope, and/or desire for the future? How do you clear the mud to see your vision more clearly?  Listen, enjoy, subscribe, and share... That's what this podcast is about! The quote at the beginning of this episode can be found here: https://wildatheart.org/daily-reading/we-can-only-hope-what-we-desire Randy Alcorn's book, Heaven is a highly recommended read and I refer to it in the podcast. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
27:58
September 10, 2021
How to Apologize, Part 2
How to Apologize, Part 2
Life presented a great lesson for us all in my home recently as I worked with my son to help him understand how to apologize.  Then I realized there was something in the experience for all of us.  I hope you find the episode as stimulating and helpful as I did when I was writing about it.  I think Jesus' teaching on how to apologize, love and walk with an offender is amazing. Here are the scriptures I refer to in this episode: Luke‬ ‭17:3‬ ‭https://luke.bible/luke-17-3 ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:21-24‬ https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.5.21-24.NIV Matthew‬ ‭18:15-17‬ ‭https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.18.15-17.NIV ‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:37‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://luke.bible/luke-6-37 ‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:47‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://luke.bible/luke-7-47 Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
28:01
September 03, 2021
How to Apologize, Part 1
How to Apologize, Part 1
Hey, time to tune in again!  I took a couple of weeks off and so glad you are back with me.  Life presented a great lesson for us all in my home recently as I worked with my son to help him understand how to apologize.  Then I realized there was something in the experience for all of us.  I hope you find the episode as stimulating and helpful as I did when I was writing about it.  I think Jesus' teaching on how to apologize, love and walk with an offender is amazing. Here are the scriptures I refer to in this episode: Luke‬ ‭17:3‬ ‭https://luke.bible/luke-17-3 ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:21-24‬ https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.5.21-24.NIV Matthew‬ ‭18:15-17‬ ‭https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.18.15-17.NIV ‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:37‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://luke.bible/luke-6-37 ‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:47‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://luke.bible/luke-7-47 Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
34:38
August 27, 2021
Father Son Campout Live
Father Son Campout Live
My son Ian and I riff for a few minutes live from father son campout, an annual tradition for the past 11 years. Ian drops some serious knowledge about presence and patience.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
19:25
August 07, 2021
Summer Riffs 5: Talk Is Cheap, but Communicating is Precious and Powerful
Summer Riffs 5: Talk Is Cheap, but Communicating is Precious and Powerful
This is the 40th Episode of the Man in Many Roles Podcast!  Thank you for tuning in. This week, for some reason, I felt compelled to complete this sentence: Talk is cheap, but... Well, this summer riff is what resulted.  I hope that this brief riff inspired a bit more thoughtfulness in you and me about what and how and to whom we are communicating.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
26:22
July 30, 2021
Summer Riffs 4: How to Take Better Vacations: Gratitude, Consideration, Flexibility
Summer Riffs 4: How to Take Better Vacations: Gratitude, Consideration, Flexibility
Vacations can be disasters or they can be adventures with tough times sprinkled in. What they won’t ever be is flawless. Here’s a way to avoid idolizing a perfect vacation and embrace each one as slower practice of three disciplines: gratitude, consideration, and flexibility. We need them for life… who’d a thunk that you could grow life skills prepping for vacations, going on them, and reflecting on them? Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
23:09
July 23, 2021
Summer Riffs 3: How to Relate and Converse Well with Anyone: Six Verbs
Summer Riffs 3: How to Relate and Converse Well with Anyone: Six Verbs
On a beautiful night on my patio I watched a thunderstorm and decided to record a few ideas about to to live well in relationships, engage anyone, and have a good conversation. Here are six actions to consider. NOTE: much of what I’m sharing is based on Cognitive Coaching training I’ve received over the years. I paraphrase what I have enjoyed implementing over the years, and credit is due to the authors of Cognitive Coaching, Art Costa and Robert Garmston. Their book, Cognitive Coaching and the associated training continues to be powerful in my life. For more: www.cognitivecoaching.com Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
32:21
July 16, 2021
Umm... How do we celebrate Juneteenth? Part 2
Umm... How do we celebrate Juneteenth? Part 2
In this second part of the "How do we celebrate Juneteeth?" series, we turn to think about how we might interact with the Juneteenth holiday as Christians.  Also, and more importantly, what about the other 364 days a year?  How do we build an inclusive community of ethnically diverse members?  What are some Dos and Don'ts?  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content:   Email: manyroles@icloud.com  Website: https://manyroles.com   Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles   IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles   Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
48:11
July 09, 2021
Umm.. How do we celebrate Juneteenth? Part 1
Umm.. How do we celebrate Juneteenth? Part 1
How will you celebrate Juneteenth?   As we enter the weekend of Independence Day, we look back at what feels like a last-minute announcement from the White House in June of 2021:  We have a new national holiday.  What does the Juneteenth holiday mean to black people and how might we celebrate it?  Well, no one knows, and it's not like all black folks view the holiday the same way... so let's start there.  And here are some ideas shared among some of my dear friends, Carlos & Dimitri Clarke, and Tony Chukes, all of us are part of the Denver Church of Christ and have been for decades.  It was only a few years ago, however, that I was invited to actually swap stories about race and what it's been like for them to live as black in America.  I have been so honored to receive their stories and simply let those stories be true.  Join me and listen, enjoy, subscribe, and share.  Carlos refers to Forced into Glory: Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream, by Lerone Bennet, Jr. ISBN 10: 0874850029 Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content:  Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com  Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles  IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles  Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
58:25
July 02, 2021
Summer Riffs 2: Jesus is the Most Inclusive Guy You've Ever Met
Summer Riffs 2: Jesus is the Most Inclusive Guy You've Ever Met
In my second summer riff, and on the heels of a new national holiday, I got to thinking, writing, and riffing on inclusivity from Jesus' point of view. At first, it seems counterintuitive to think Jesus is being inclusive when he says, "I am the way, the truth and the life" I've been following Jesus the best I can for about 30 years in earnest, and I think Jesus deserves some more consideration for what he claimed about himself.  Despite how controversial the above quote is, I'm not sure it qualifies Jesus as an exclusive person given the totality of his story, his actions and his other claims about himself.  I think that Jesus would be more accepting of his critics and many 21st century zealots and popular folks than they would be of Him.   So I hope the riff on inclusivity is stiimulating to your thinking and living well in all your roles.  Please comment or audio record your response to this podcast at anchor.fm/maninmanyroles. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
36:05
June 25, 2021
Summer Riffs: Six Dimensions of Happiness, Joy, Pleasure, and Leisure
Summer Riffs: Six Dimensions of Happiness, Joy, Pleasure, and Leisure
Less structure, more spontenaity in the Summer! I decided to nerd out a bit and riff about Happiness, Joy, Pleasure, and Leisure through 6 dimensions or lenses: proximity to self durability over time agency  validity (truth) mercy (goodness) and beauty Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content:  Email: manyroles@icloud.com  Website: https://manyroles.com  Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles  IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles  Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
52:25
June 18, 2021
John "Bud" Lovett: My Dad in Many Roles (Fathers' Day and Auntie/Uncle Project)
John "Bud" Lovett: My Dad in Many Roles (Fathers' Day and Auntie/Uncle Project)
As June, Fathers' Day month, and the Auntie/Uncle Project continues, I asked my dad to share what he's learned in his seven decades on this earth. He reflects on how his commitment to providing drove him to a stroke in his 40s, what he sees as important now, and offers several nuggets about living well along the way.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
53:22
June 11, 2021
Richard (Uncle Dicky, Tío Ricardo) McCloskey: A Self in Many Roles
Richard (Uncle Dicky, Tío Ricardo) McCloskey: A Self in Many Roles
This episode kicks off June on the eve of my Uncle Richard T. McCloskey's 71st birthday.  It also kicks off the Uncle side of the Auntie/Uncle Project, in which my uncles and father will speak about how to live well in many roles.   Listen in as my Tío Ricardo and I talk about his interesting life as a Self in many roles.  He has been a railroad worker, computer programmer, Trappist monk, and High School Spanish teacher.  He inspired me to learn Spanish and was certainly a deep influence on my life, career in education, and my eagerness to just try.  So wonderful to ask more about the people you have loved and admired, and that just what I got to do.  I hope my children and their children enjoy this time I had with my Uncle Dicky.  He has diverse and unique life experience to share.  If we heed his experience and advice, I think we will live better as a lone (not lonely) self in many roles. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
01:05:43
June 04, 2021
Ann Lovett Chiango: Seeking and Joy in Many Roles (The Auntie Project)
Ann Lovett Chiango: Seeking and Joy in Many Roles (The Auntie Project)
The Auntie project continues! What a treat it was to listen to my great auntie Ann share how to live well. She has been in the convent, a teacher, wife and mother, and done it all with God as a companion. Here are some resources she mentions in the podcast: Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation: https://email.cac.org/t/d-l-qttkhtt-tlkrjutjjt-d/ Bishop Barron’s Word on Fire: https://www.wordonfire.org/bible-project/ And A Concord Pastor Comments, http://concordpastor.blogspot.com  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
58:54
May 28, 2021
Mary Fran McCloskey Soulis: The Auntie Project
Mary Fran McCloskey Soulis: The Auntie Project
Mary Fran Soulis is in her later 70s, the oldest daughter of 7 siblings, and my oldest auntie or uncle on the McCloskey side.  She has striven to live well with a love of the written word, a love for light, and practice of gratitude.  Enjoy some great advice from one who has been many places, and read LOTS of poetry.  She also practices what she is sharing.  I loved this conversation, and I hope you enjoy it, share it, and subscribe to the podcast. References from the podcast and Auntie Mary Fran’s show notes: 1) Kim Langley, Send My Roots Rain: A Companion on the Grief Journey This includes the poem "Otherwise" by Jane Kenyon. It includes many other beautiful poems. 2) Mary Oliver, Why I Wake Early, with the poem of the same name. That poem can also be found in Devotions, a self-selected series of Oliver's own poems. 3) Hafiz (as translated by Daniel Ladinsky), I Heard God Laughing: Poems of Hope and Joy. 4)Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet. "Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms or like books written in a very foreign tongue... The point is to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer." 5) James Baldwin, Unknown Source, "It is necessary while in darkness to know that somewhere there is light, that in oneself, waiting to be found, there is light."  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
55:39
May 21, 2021
Sue McCloskey Reddick: The Auntie Project
Sue McCloskey Reddick: The Auntie Project
Aunt Sue was the first of the aunties and uncles I asked to record with me. I sent a communication to all my fraternal and maternal aunts for a series of May podcasts in celebration of Mother's Day. Auntie Sue responded to the invitation to share some of her life experiences and wisdom because she loves me, even though she wasn't entirely sure what I was up to.  I'm very glad she did because now we all benefit, and this recording will remain for years!  She is a self, sister, widow, mother, and grandmother in many roles.  Listen in for wisdom and how to lead your family and relationships well.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
46:34
May 14, 2021
Clare McCloskey Lovett: My Mom in Many Roles (Mother's Day and Kickoff to the Auntie/Uncle Project)
Clare McCloskey Lovett: My Mom in Many Roles (Mother's Day and Kickoff to the Auntie/Uncle Project)
Today's very special mother's day episode features none other than my mom, Clare Lovett.  I got my gift of gab, humor, desire for solutions, and curiosity from her, and thoroughly considering everything from her best advice to my sons, her grandsons, all the way to what heaven might be like.  She shares just weeks from her 50th wedding anniversary. This episode kicks off The Auntie/Uncle Project, in which I sought and collected stories and wisdom from my parents and their siblings, along with my parents' aunts and uncles who were willing to offer experience and wisdom to any who would listen.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
47:14
May 07, 2021
John Biggerstaff: Self, Son, Leader in Many Roles
John Biggerstaff: Self, Son, Leader in Many Roles
John Biggerstaff is passionate about Special Education, and it's because of childhood experiences that shaped his passion.  Listen in as Phil and I enjoy time with John's high-energy heart that is as deep and wide and passionate as it is fun. Produced by Phil Salvador.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
57:35
April 30, 2021
Jim Eager, Part 2: Self, Remarried Husband, and Blended Family Father in Many Roles
Jim Eager, Part 2: Self, Remarried Husband, and Blended Family Father in Many Roles
This is part 2 of my conversation with long time friend, Jim Eager.  We caught up after 10 years of not connecting, and his "random" connection to the podcast in its earliest stages, which we discussed in Part 1 (released on January 29, 2021).  I loved catching up with Jim as he talked about his new marriage, and what work went into making it work better than his first marriage.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
44:56
April 23, 2021
Speed, BMoe, & Tony: Three Men of God in Many Difficult Roles
Speed, BMoe, & Tony: Three Men of God in Many Difficult Roles
Darryl Speed ("Speed"), Brian Moore ("BMoe"), and Tony Turner are three lifelong Jesus followers who have a lot of experience, pain, and things to share about how to live in a church that is mostly white and doesn't always feel like home, but more like a Bed and Breakfast. Their sincerity and stories are inspiring, and their desire for spaces to talk about race and racialized experiences run deep. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as Phil and I did.  Let's all commit to welcoming the disruptive stories as individual souls in many roles. When we do so, we expand the territory of God's kingdom with each conversation that we have.  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
58:09
April 16, 2021
Dr. Devon Smith: All the Roles are Blurred
Dr. Devon Smith: All the Roles are Blurred
Dr. Devon Smith is my best friend of 20+ years, a father, a Jesus follwer, husband, and so much more.  He leads in the Santa Monica-Malibu school district as a Coordinator of Learning and Innovation. He and I riff on education terms, the blurred lines between our roles nowadays, sabbath, and why men resist intimate fellowship even as they long for and need it. Join Devon and me, enjoy, then share this episode with those you love. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:08
April 09, 2021
J. Brian Craig: Self in Many Roles
J. Brian Craig: Self in Many Roles
This episode is with a big brother to me in the faith, J. Brian Craig. He is a minister, musician, a fine artist, a man who loves God, as well as a husband and father in many roles.  My co-host Phil Salvador and I spend time hearing Brian riff on creativity and its connection to the garden of Eden.  He also talks about how living well in the role of self is connected to living with God.  He talks about a great book he's read recently, and how he has navigated really hard times, both during and before the pandemic. Connect with Brian's content and ministry: https://linktr.ee/jbriancraig YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/jbriancraig Ministry: https://www.southbaychurch.us/  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:00
April 02, 2021
Lisa Johnson: Mutuality in Self, Follower, and Leader Roles (Women's History Month)
Lisa Johnson: Mutuality in Self, Follower, and Leader Roles (Women's History Month)
Lisa Johnson is a woman, a disciple of Jesus, a wife and mother, and ministers in Portland, Oregon with her husband, Steve Johnson. The concept and biblical truth of mutuality became clear to her several years ago in the wake of a diagnosis of terminal cancer.  She finishes our Women's History Month in fine fashion as we consider many things: what a "suitable helper" from Genesis 1 really is, how hierarchy stems from sin, how to focus on our gifts in a spiritual community, and how God originally intended men and women to relate to each other, and so much more.  Mutuality applies to gender relationships, race/ethnic and class relationships and was modeled most clearly by Lisa's favorite man, Jesus Christ. We hope this episode offers a hopeful vision that makes sense and inspires us all to live well as we relate to men and women in many roles. Subscribe, enjoy, and share! Engage with more of Lisa's Mutuality content: https://lisajohnsonmutuality.com  https://madeformutuality.com  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VJUPhM0MGUvEqM36ruhWQ IG: https://instagram.com/lisaj.mutuality  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
59:52
March 26, 2021
Abby Lovett: Self, Daughter, Sister, "Teammate for Life", Mother, and Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
Abby Lovett: Self, Daughter, Sister, "Teammate for Life", Mother, and Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
Women's History Month on the podcast continues this week: My one and only sister joins me for an honest conversation about what it's like to be a woman in many roles, sharing stories that I missed while I was a teenager (she is five years younger than I), and the roots of her impressive career as a corporate executive, "Teammate for Life", and hard working mom. I'm proud of her, and I felt the hour we spent recording our conversation was a gift and a real treat for both of us.  Listen in and share it with a friend! Connect with More Man in Many Roles Content: https://manyroles.com  Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles  Instagram: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles  Support: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles Email: manyroles@icloud.com
48:03
March 19, 2021
Marne Gulley: Mother & Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
Marne Gulley: Mother & Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
I'm thrilled to have Marne Gulley, the first female fan of the podcast (as far as I know), on the show today.  Today's show continues our March Women's History Month series.   Marne is a beautiful soul.  Having always had a heart to adopt has led Marne to adopt three children, including Andre, who's two years old at the time of this recording (and part of why she originally tuned into the Man in Many Roles podcast).  She has much to say on issues of racial equity, but I appreciate more how she LIVES well as an equity champion, mother, and professional.  I have created professional development with her, laughed very hard, and even shed a few tears as we have done hard work together since 2015.  I hope you enjoy listening in to my conversation with a woman who is my friend, and who loves God and her children as she speaks about balance, presence, and the value of a village. Photos of Marne's beautiful fam are here:  http://bit.ly/2NifoKw  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
50:11
March 12, 2021
BJ Foster: Self, Daughter, Follower, & Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
BJ Foster: Self, Daughter, Follower, & Leader in Many Roles (Women's History Month)
This podcast is a perfect bridge between our Black History Month episodes and Women's History Month. BJ Foster is a Broadway actor, Women's Ministry Leader, Jesus follower, and now an author, who happens to be a black woman in America.  Her book, Rebound: Staging a Spiritual Comeback (https://amzn.to/3aoLmMS) just released in January of 2021.  She has worked very hard to unpack why she felt so outside of her integrity, and it has helped her live well in her many roles. She and I talk freely about how nothing is wasted, tearing down and building up, what it is to live as a black women's minister in a mostly white church, and all along the way, she is dropping nuggets of wisdom.  Listen to find out how to redeem hard times for goodness, truth, and beauty; how to shift from survival to showing up wholehearted and holy; and how suffering is like croutons.   She has done the painful work of introspection, silence, stillness, and solitude with God and is now living better than ever.  We all have access to transformation, and must work to live well as a man or woman (or a black women's ministry leader) in all our roles! I am truly enjoying creating this podcast for you, even though I would do it if it were only for me!   Connect with BJ's content: Book: Rebound: Staging a Spiritual Comeback https://amzn.to/3aoLmMS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bee_jayfoster/ Podcast: Withholding Nothing: Podcast for the Soul  Please connect with more Man in Many Roles content or offer your comments about what's helpful:  Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles  Instagram: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles  Email: manyroles@icloud.com
49:38
March 05, 2021
Nii Codjoe: Self, Son, Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Nii Codjoe: Self, Son, Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Our Black History Month series concludes (but don’t worry, we’ll keep bringing diverse voices to the show) with Nii Codjoe. Nii is a favorite new friend from 2020, an entrepreneur, a son of a college professor from Ghana, and a joy to talk with anytime I get the chance. I hope you enjoy his take on learning, being a black man in America, and his brilliance. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
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February 26, 2021
Bill Delacruz: Self and Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Bill Delacruz: Self and Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Bill is a former Denver Public Schools colleague, a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion leader, and a professional whom I admire, and he is a man in many roles.  He has done and continues to do the work of self-reflecting so that he might honor, be authentic, and work against biases and systemic racism.  I love every chance I get to talk to him. His book, Finding The Origination Point, came out in 2019. I highly recommend it if you care to do something personally meaningful to fight bias and systemic racism.  The work begins in each and every one of us.  Bill's website:  https://delacruzsolutions.com Bill's book, Finding the Origination Point: https://amzn.to/3drXf7W Follow Bill on Twitter: https://twitter.com/billdelac & IG: https://www.instagram.com/billdelac Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
53:10
February 19, 2021
Aaron Burden: Self, Son, Lover, Husband, Dad (Black History Month)
Aaron Burden: Self, Son, Lover, Husband, Dad (Black History Month)
Aaron Burden is a follower of Jesus, son, brother, husband to his wife of 16 years, and parent to a son and daughter.  He pastors youth in the church his wife grew up in.  He is also a black man in America.  Listen in as he talks about sunrise, the recharge that a hobby offers, and all that comes against goodness, truth, and beauty in his life.  He talks about how he's changed from 2019 to the present, and what he would share with his fellow church members who are not people of color.  He is a godly artist, and a great guy to talk to, and God has allowed him to capture insane beauty.    Connect with Aaron and his beautiful content:  twitter: https://twitter.com/theaaronburden  Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/@aaronburden  IG: https://www.instagram.com/aaronburden/  website: https://aaronburden.com podcast: https://www.burdenministries.com/podcast  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
56:47
February 12, 2021
Wade Cook: Self, Husband, Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Wade Cook: Self, Husband, Leader in Many Roles (Black History Month)
Welcome to the first Man in Many Roles Podcast Black History Month installment of 2021.  Wade Cook is the first black elder appointed by the Denver Church of Christ, and while we don't directly address race and ethnicity, we do go deeply into HOW to honor people. one by one.  Wade is hilarious, magnetic, and loves talking to people.  We unpack how to relate to people well as men in many roles.  Watch out, there are a LOT of nuggets to live by that Wade offers and that surface organically in this episode.  This episode for me was like a little slice of heaven, where I predict we will freely notice and enjoy the beauty of each other's presence and character. MLK's desire was that we would be judged on the content of our character.  Let's consider how we are showing up for and judging others based on knowing their character.  Our loved ones, folks we lead, and anyone we meet is secretly hoping we do just this.  This podcast offers some practicals on just how to honor each and every person we meet. I LOVE creating this podcast for you, even though I would do it if it were only for me!  Please connect with more Man in Many Roles content or offer your comments about what's helpful: Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
54:49
February 05, 2021
Jim Eager, Part 1: Son, Husband/Lover, Dad in Many Roles
Jim Eager, Part 1: Son, Husband/Lover, Dad in Many Roles
I loved having this totally honest conversation with my old buddy Jim Eager, the only man I've ever written a song for.  (If I find it, I will post it)  I am glad to bring this conversation to you, PG-13 language and all. Jim and I were part of the same spiritual community over a decade ago, shared so much fun, and then the hardest of times hit and he was left stunned, and scrambling to raise his three kids as a single dad after his marriage ended. He found my podcast a few months ago (with a nudge from God in my opinion), enjoyed it, implemented some things, then sent me a message about the impact of the podcast.  That was a couple of months ago, and we finally sat down and recorded a conversation via Google Meet. He sat on his patio in the Florida rain, and I listened eagerly from the basement office. Jim paints a beautiful picture of falling in love after divorce, setting proactive boundaries, and the benefit of spiritual community even when separated from it.  He is father to six children in a blended family that is apparently always after the bag of Salt and Vinegar chips. He loves his wife, who keeps him in check and vice versa.  Jim is real, and reflects on the power of his mother, good conversation and how his spiritual roots still serve him and his loved ones well.  He painted pictures as he spoke and I just loved catching up with him based on the fact that my creativity impacted him for the better.  He is an artist and stage craftsman, and I hope you find him as interesting as I do. NOTE: this podcast unlike others features more adult language than my usual podcasts.  I LOVE creating this podcast for you, even though I would do it if it were only for me!   Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
36:47
January 29, 2021
Ray "Mayday" Roske: Self and Lover/Husband in Many Roles
Ray "Mayday" Roske: Self and Lover/Husband in Many Roles
Listen in as my new co-host, Phil Salvador, cover many topics, ask questions of, and just enjoy the presence of Ray Roske.   Find out why Ray's nickname is Mayday, how reflection helps you see the mundane as beauty in your life, how you could buy a great meal for someone in need with an app, and enjoy several other nuggets of wisdom he drops.  Join us in hoping Ray becomes a regular on the show.   What a joy to just listen to and riff off of his stories. Connect with Ray's Creativity: Ray's blog, The Expansion Chamber:  http://www.rayroske.com Ray's book, A Life in Motorcycles: The Mechanics Guide for Reviving Motorcycle and Marriage: https://amzn.to/3qw18Mj Ray's nonprofit, Third Meal: http://thethirdmeal.org  Ray referred to Leon Russell's song, A Song for You here's a link: https://youtu.be/ZvazuyF6eXw  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
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January 22, 2021
Phil Salvador: Husband, Dad, Leader in Many Roles
Phil Salvador: Husband, Dad, Leader in Many Roles
Whether you are a dad, or not, this podcast has some real gems for us a souls in many roles.  Phil Salvador is a dad in many roles, just out of a master's program, new fatherhood, married, and former school leader.  We both work in Denver as educators, but the content at manyroles.com took our friendship to another level.  He loves following Christ and shares vulnerably about his favorite roles and the accusations he fights daily with community, prayer, self-reflection, and practicing presence. Dads, or soon-to-be dads, tune in and share with your buddies. Dads, I mentioned 3 needs of our sons' and daughter's hearts, based on Wild at Heart by John Eldredge (https://amzn.to/3qcz6pf). The summary is here: http://bit.ly/3owUJAd. To go deeper in your own journey, consider using the Many Roles Matrix as a framework to think through your roles and grow: https://bit.ly/3f7ZXOO if you would like a bit of guidance, reach out to me. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
55:23
January 15, 2021
A Personal Celebration & A Leadership Love
A Personal Celebration & A Leadership Love
Based on my Jan 5, 2021 blog on manyroles.com, and with celebration in my heart on some recent personal success, I offer this podcast on loving in a rare way that every leader and every follower would benefit from--Bold Love. This is just a short celebration and a bit of riffing on loving like the world and loving like a true hero would love.  The contrast is stunning, challenging and hopefully inspiring.  We can practice bold love the next time we are tempted to give in to revenge or resignation, and focus more on reconciliation and renewal. Further Reading: Bold Love, by Dan Allender and Tremper Longman III: https://amzn.to/2LkUZUe When People are Big and God is Small, by Ed Welch: https://amzn.to/2JP07zl Dare to Lead, by Brene Brown: https://amzn.to/2Ln7CxY Radical Candor, by Kim Scott: https://amzn.to/2Xosnfk Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
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January 08, 2021
Chris Mendez Johnson: Brother, Husband/Lover, Self, & Leader in Many Roles
Chris Mendez Johnson: Brother, Husband/Lover, Self, & Leader in Many Roles
Season 2, Episode 1 kicks off the new year with a new focus on conversations with men in many roles.  I start with a conversation with Chris Mendez Johnson.  He is an old friend of mine with whom I've shared wonderful conversations, fireside chats, and spiritual fellowship.  We are both married fathers of two boys, and because he moved away a few years ago, I'm very glad to share our many roles conversation because we stumbled onto some great nuggets as we caught up.  He found Season 1 and my Twitter feed rather randomly, so we decided to catch up and record our time together.  I hope Chris becomes regular on the show.  He leads a small group of Christians in a spiritual community in Wyoming.  This conversation focuses primarily on the self role, the husband/lover role, and we touch on other roles too. The Many Roles Matrix is a reflective tool we refer to in the podcast, and it's free to download here: https://bit.ly/3f7ZXOO  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
43:04
January 01, 2021
Heaven Hopes: Love and Joy
Heaven Hopes: Love and Joy
As 2020 winds down, I recorded this on the evening of Christmas Eve after telling my sons (again) the story of Jesus' birth, but Hope, Joy, Love and Peace is just as relevant in June as it is in December.  Based on the four Advent foci of Hope, Love, Peace and Joy, I decided to share a few items from my Heaven Hopes List, which I add to three times per week, thanks to my trusty iPhone alarm that goes off at 8pm.  The whole list is based on a hope of Heaven--a new and fully restored heaven and earth--which Jesus said he was working towards.  He said, "See, I am making all things new" (Revelation 21:5) Hope, Love, Joy and Peace are four things we need to spend more time reflecting on, hoping for, and talking about with our loved ones. As we do, we will live better in all our roles. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
30:08
December 25, 2020
Dad: *Special Holiday Edition* Joseph's Affirmation
Dad: *Special Holiday Edition* Joseph's Affirmation
Today's podcast is my reading of a short story I wrote 11 years ago shortly before my son, Ian, was born.  It is part reflection, part imagination, part worship of God as a Father. If you are a Dad you know the killer pressure to come through when the pressure is on.  Joseph, the father of Jesus felt that pressure.  His fiance popped up pregnant, he had to work through that, then he had to talk a long journey to another town while she was ready to give birth.  Then no place to stay.  Then God came through.  Enjoy the story. Here's a favorite song of mine, "The Squalor and the Saviour" by Josh Gauton that I love to listen to every December: https://youtu.be/1E3JYZEwF5Y Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles Let's live well in all our roles.
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December 18, 2020
How to Promote Peace this Holiday Season
How to Promote Peace this Holiday Season
Based on a recent blog post, I'm riffing on a decision I made to bring more peace in my life and relationships, based on an advent bible study plan I'm reading with my wife and sons this holiday season.  I will make another podcast or two about the other decisions in the coming weeks. Bible.com and their YouVersion app is a major tool in my roles as a parent, husband, and follower of Jesus.   The Advent plan is picked is here:  https://www.bible.com/reading-plans/22462-bibleproject-advent-reflections We are each one soul in many roles.  Let's live well in all our roles  Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
36:30
December 11, 2020
Start Now on Next Year's Goals
Start Now on Next Year's Goals
Based on two blogs at manyroles.com, this podcast is an encouragement to enter a season of reflection to prepare for the new year rather than participate in hurried and harried life in late 2020 (or whenever you listen to this episode).  There's never a bad time to reflect, remember that: your heart matters,  questions are good, and  desires and hopes are life We will live well in our many roles to the degree we reflect on our roles in the past year to get ready for the next. The Many Roles Matrix may help your year-end reflections: https://bit.ly/3f7ZXOO Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
31:43
December 04, 2020
Ways to Thrive in a Pandemic-Affected Holiday Season
Ways to Thrive in a Pandemic-Affected Holiday Season
How do we do more than just survive this strange holiday season?   What are some ideas to consider to make life more fun, meaningful and joyful?   How do I teach my kids to give to others a bit more even as they are just "done" with the changes in their lives this year.  Oh yes, and how can I use my phone to grow in gratitude without downloading another app? These questions will be addressed in this podcast, and I hope to inspire you to implement some joyful practices to thrive in the remainder of 2020. Read the related blog to this podcast,  Follow @maninmanyroles on Twitter, Check out more at manyroles.com, Onward and inward, then forward and toward more wholehearted, holy living in all our roles!
32:34
November 27, 2020
The Many Roles Matrix
The Many Roles Matrix
Are you willing to use this strange season in late 2020 (or whenever you read this) to reflect and do some deep inner work? I drafted a Many Roles Matrix you can download for journaling, a conversation, simple reflection, or prayer.  This podcast walks through how I used it and how it might benefit you as one soul in many roles. How would it affect you to be more mindful and grounded at the next holiday function, tomorrow at work, in your parenting in your marriage, or in your current relationship?  This matrix is just a starting point, and I attempted to address some of these questions in my first Man in Many Roles podcast that introduces the roles as I understand them in my life. Good questions are like tools, thus the beautiful photo on this blog.  Good questions dig deeply if they are asked with genuine curiosity, and if you engage questions deeply on your own, they provide a solitary opportunity to know your identity more deeply, just like the fascination we feel when we are young, dig up the ground and find a world of wonder below the grass. Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles Consider supporting this podcast to increase its quality and beauty!
31:38
November 20, 2020
Top 10 Ways to Build Connections with our Kids
Top 10 Ways to Build Connections with our Kids
On a heart level, there are some critical routines to helping, teaching, and protecting our kids as they grow up.  Here I offer 10 routines that will build connections with your children as you implement them with clarity of purpose, and with increasing consistency. These are almost totally free, and they reward our brains, which are -wired- for connection.  We crave it.  So let's feed our kids some good connection!  This is a podcast version of an October, 2020 blog on manyroles.com.  There is a combination of current advice for fathers and parents of teens and preteens, and advice for first-time fathers, new parents, and parents of young toddlers.  Onward and inward! Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
53:47
November 13, 2020
Jobhunting as Courage in All Roles
Jobhunting as Courage in All Roles
This episode connects the suffering that is job hunting as a man in many roles with our courage, or heart life.  Whether you are a man, or love a man who is jobhunting, this episode has vulnerable sharing, advice, some reflections on 2020, and hopefully empathy for all of us who are suffering from a lack of something, be it a job, a relationship... anything that matters to us that we lack. Life is risk. And we risk for what is important to us.  We require courage to acquire important and valuable things. And heaps of perseverance.  See the associated blog on Jobhunting as Courage at manyroles.com for more info and inspiration. Onward in and inward!   Connect with more Man in Many Roles Content: Email: manyroles@icloud.com Website: https://manyroles.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/maninmanyroles IG: https://instagram.com/maninmanyroles Support/donate: https://anchor.fm/maninmanyroles
59:60
November 06, 2020
Prepisode: Introduction to the Man in Many Roles Podcast
Prepisode: Introduction to the Man in Many Roles Podcast
This episode has been years in the making, and represents a leap into the vulnerable act of creation of art that is important to me and connected to my life and desire.  Thank you for tuning in, and I hope the podcast's exploration of manhood in all its facets with prove helpful to men and anyone who loves a boy or man.  In this "Prepisode" (Why am I so jazzed I made up that word?) I articulate who I am and what I hope to offer as it relates to the seven distinct but overlapping roles we play and live out as men.  More at manyroles.com
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October 30, 2020