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Mens Sana: A Motion for Mental Health

Mens Sana: A Motion for Mental Health

By Mens Sana
A podcast by lawyers with mental health issues for lawyers.

A play on the Latin phrase "mens rea" meaning "a guilty mind," our podcast title "Mens Sana" means the opposite: a healthy mind. Our mission is to start a conversation between us and our listeners about ways in which lawyers can more easily approach the subject of mental health at work and at home. Will you join us?
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It's Okay to Have a Bad Day
Kaitlyn is struggling today -- her looming potential PMDD has her in a bit of a rut. But, we manage to provide you with some hopefully helpful #WFH tips and a reminder that you are not just working from home, you are home during a pandemic trying to get work done. 
34:20
May 25, 2020
Social Media Scaries
Kaitlyn & Laura talk through their social media woes and offer some options for how to use social media to help create some normalcy, most of which revolve around TikTok and pretending we understand the language of Gen Z. 
35:21
May 18, 2020
WE'RE BACK!
After a (not so) brief hiatus, Kaitlyn and Laura are BACK with some raw, unfiltered mental health #content to get us all through quarantine. We are keeping things low pressure for the indefinite future and even introducing a video component! Check out our Instagram @amotionformentalhealth for a sneak preview. We missed you!!
24:29
May 11, 2020
Ep. 18 - The Introverted Lawyer, pt. 2
Kaitlyn intros the episode with a quick announcement. Then, Laura and Kaitlyn continue their discussion with Heidi K. Brown and walk through all seven steps of Heidi's journey to empowered advocacy for introverted lawyers. Heidi shares her happy pill this week and assigns some creative homework!
46:25
March 2, 2020
Ep. 17 - The Introverted Lawyer - Interview with Heidi K. Brown
Are you an introvert or an extrovert? Join Kaitlyn and Laura as they discuss all things introversion with 2-time ABA published author and Brooklyn Law professor Heidi K. Brown. Heidi describes the difference between introverts and extroverts and how being an introvert can make law school and lawyer life difficult to navigate. She shares her personal experiences and how she found her voice in a profession that encourages extroversion. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.
47:32
February 24, 2020
Ep. 16 - Lawyers Helping Podcasting Lawyers
Join Laura and Kaitlyn's conversation with Jim Leffler, Clinical Director of the Virginia Judges and Lawyers Assistance Program (AKA Lawyers Helping Lawyers) as they discuss totems for indicating misbehaving brains, and the bevy of services that VJLAP provides, including lawyer-vetted therapy and wellness groups, 12-step substance abuse recovery groups, therapy facilitation, bar referrals, CLE events, and volunteer opportunities 
58:08
February 17, 2020
Ep. 15 - The Clickbait Episode
Remember that Above the Law article about William and Mary's health center mishandling law students' mental health from a few years ago? We had the chance to speak with Ryan Walkenhorst (JD '19), one of the main subjects of the article and the mastermind behind W&M's overhaul of its mental health environment, for an exclusive BTS look into her experience working with the administration to build the supportive environment that now exists there. Ryan also shares her happy pills and homework but Kaitlyn & Laura forgot to mention theirs so I guess you'll just have to stay tuned for next week to hear their latest updates!
1:02:21
February 10, 2020
Ep. 14 - Game Time
Join Laura and Kaitlyn as they learn about the errors of their extroverted ways, play a rousing game of personal + mental health trivia, and distinguish between ashtrays and asstrays. As always we close out the episode by sharing our happy pills for the week-no homework for you this time!
1:07:48
February 3, 2020
Ep. 13 - Are They Really Still Talking About Resources?
Laura drives into a field Michael Scott style, we're starting a mental health book club, and we finally get to the point and rattle off tons of mental health resources that you can access right from your phone. As always, we close out the episode by sharing our happy pills and homework.
51:08
January 27, 2020
Ep. 12 - I Need a Freaking Therapist
In this episode, Laura and Kaitlyn continue the conversation on exploring mental health resources, including personal experiences with virtual and in-person individual therapy, group therapy, psychiatry, and Laura's penchant for art nudes before sending you off with happy pills & homework. 
59:43
January 20, 2020
Ep. 11 - Hitting 2020 At a Racewalk Pace
Kaitlyn and Laura review some staggering statistics about mental health in the US and discuss the apparent lack of available and accessible mental health resources. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.
40:53
January 13, 2020
Ep. 10 - Mens Sana After Law School
We finally teamed up with Jack and David, hosts of the podcast "Law School After Dark", to talk all things mental health during and after law school. The team talks through the difficulties of law school, Kaitlyn & Laura share bar exam horrors and study tips and how being a lawyer isn't much different than law school, and we all share some happy pills & home work. Moral of the episode? Treat the bar exam like World of Warcraft and you'll be just fine! 
1:05:57
January 6, 2020
Ep. 09 - This Is How We Do It
Kaitlyn, Laura, and their special guest Rebecca, co-founding partner of Nixon Law Group, talk building a mentally healthy workplace from the ground up, radical optimism, and the power of reframing versus eradicating your anxiety.
1:00:19
December 30, 2019
Ep. 08 - Holigays Pt. 2: "If They Don't Pay Your Bills, Don't Pay Them No Mind."
Laura, Matt, and Kaitlyn continue the discussion on LGBTQIA+ mental health. They talk ways for employers and individuals to effectively bridge gaps between diverse communities, share wisdom from RuPaul, and discuss ways to approach the holigay season. 
1:07:17
December 23, 2019
Ep. O7 - Holigays: Addressing LGBTQIA+ Mental Health
Kaitlyn, Laura, and their special guest Matt kick off the first episode of their diversity-focused mini-series! They discuss all things mental health for the LGBTQIA+ community, diversity versus inclusion, and personal takes on how identification impacts mental health. 
1:01:41
December 16, 2019
Ep. 06 - Making Your Holidays Happy
Laura and Kaitlyn discuss how we as lawyers can work to make sure our holidays are actually happy. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.
49:27
December 9, 2019
Ep. 05 - Check Yourself
Kaitlyn talks about her new ADHD diagnosis and medication, Laura goes from 0-4 happy pills REAL QUICK, and they both discuss the physical and metaphorical feelings associated with anxiety and depression. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.
51:45
December 2, 2019
Ep. 04 - Making Time for Mental Health
Kaitlyn and Laura talk about scheduling time to address your own mental health, Laura dreams of being a flower girl, and Kaitlyn foreshadows a new diagnosis. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework. 
54:50
November 25, 2019
Ep. 03 - Dealing on the Daily
Kaitlyn and Laura explore a few of the many ways that being a lawyer can affect mental health and contribute to mental illness on a daily basis. We bring in perspectives from a civil litigator, a public defender, and a big law healthcare lawyer from NYC and share some examples of stigma we heard from our listeners after Episode 2. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.
56:49
November 18, 2019
Ep. 02 - What Stigma?
Kaitlyn and Laura discuss examples of mental health stigma in the legal industry, Character & Fitness fears, and ways for lawyers to start talking about mental health with colleagues and peers. 
48:38
November 11, 2019
Ep. 01 - Talking to No One (Yet)
Meet the hosts Kaitlyn and Laura and learn about our mission and why we're passionate about lawyers' mental health!
25:56
October 28, 2019