Beyond the Vows Podcast
By Caleia and Shaheim
Beyond the Vows PodcastJun 21, 2021
Reach Out First x BHM
You've finally exchanged numbers; who reaches out first, and how long should you wait? Plus, as we bid farewell to Black History Month, we spotlight lesser-known creators and advocates whose contributions have left a lasting impact. Join us for this week's episode. Join us on Beyond the Vows with Leia and Sha.
We're Back!!! (Again) x New Show Name x Marriage is down, whose fault is it?
Welcome back to the "Beyond the Vows" podcast (formerly Married... For What?!)! After a few years of hiatus, we're thrilled to reintroduce ourselves and our new show. Through the ups and downs of the past couple of years, we've gained valuable insights, especially in navigating the journey of marriage since we said "I do" over a decade ago.
In this episode, we delve into the intriguing topic of the decline in marriages and explore the factors contributing to it. Join us as we examine the complexities of modern relationships and the choices people make, reflecting on our own experiences and observations in real-time.
Marriage & Football - Episode 38
This episode we take a break from talking about us and we talk FOOTBALL. YUP! Leia knows her stuff (a lil sumthin, sumthin). Football season is just around the corner and from time to time, we like to dream up ways on how the NFL can change its rules to make the game better and more exciting. From the field to the front office. This episode we take a look at some ideas we've read about and give our take if it would be better for the game or not. So, grab your chips, dip and a nice, cool, refreshing glass of water... SIKE!!!!! LET's GOOOOOOO!!! This is Married... For What?! Episode 38
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Right or Wrong (Episode 37)
We saw a Facebook post from one of the marriage groups and decided to discuss who's right or wrong on episode 36. This is Leia & Sha: Married... For What?! Podcast. (Episode 37)
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Secret Bank Accounts (Episode 36)
Does secret bank accounts, hiding money and stashing cash help a relationship? Even if it's to protect your family? Let's find out what Leia & Sha have been through... oh and prenuptial agreements on episode 36 of the Leia & Sha: Married... For What?! Podcast. (Episode 36)
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I Wasn't Fully Committed (Episode 35)
Episode 35 - When did you realize it was YOU that needed to change and not them? Were you committed or were you making excuses the whole time? This is Leia & Sha: Married... For What?! Episode 35.
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What are you reading? Pt.2 (EPISODE 34)
What is Sha reading this week? Everyone may not be an avid reader, but we've found that reading or listening to different stories can profoundly affect understanding our relationships. We get to analyze our relationship with our health, money, family, each other, and the world. A marriage is about making your relationships better for yourself and your family. What better way to learn about it than through stories? How about forgetting all that and escaping into another world or fantasy? Let us know in the comments what you're reading. Please give the title, author, and why you like the book.
Below are the titles and authors for the books mentioned in today's episode:
- Act Like You Got Some Sense: And Other Things My Daughters Taught Me by Jamie Foxx
- The Perfect Play by G.S. Carr
- A Great Game of Business by Jack Stack
- Between Dawn and Dusk (Book series) by Jamie Schlosser
- A Court of Thorns and Roses (Book series) by Sarah J. Maas
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Dry Spell (Episode 33)
Every marriage has experienced at least one DRY SPELL. I mean no hanky panky, knocking the boots or doing the deed. Very little quality time or intimacy. These moments can happen in any relationship but it's what caused it is what needs to be discussed. Let's dive in to Episode 33 - Dry Spell.
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What are you reading? Pt. 1 (Episode 32)
What is Leia reading this week? We know that everyone may not be avid readers but we've found that reading or listening to different stories can have a profound effect on understanding our relationships. We get to analyze about our relationship with our health, money, family, each other and the world. A marriage is about making all your relationships better for yourself and your family, what better way to learn about it than through stories? Hmm, how about forgetting all of that and escaping into another world or fantasy? Let us know in the comments what you're reading. Please give the title, author and why you like the book.
Below are the titles and authors for the books mentioned in today's episode:
- Webtoons "The Witch and The Bull" by Moonsia (Leia's Homegirl)
- Webtoons "Fins" by Nymtea
- "Heart of Ice" by Anni
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Too Much On Their Plate (Episode 31)
I bet you wish you had learned what to do when your spouse has too much on their plate. Paying attention so you can catch it and having empathy when you do see it are the obvious things to do. But what can you do to help them? Leia & Sha dive into how they handle too many things on their plate in their marriage and how they help each other out. Hint: NOT THEM KIDS!. This is EPISODE 31 of the Leia & Sha: Married... For What?! Podcast.
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Breakup 2 Breakup (Episode 30)
No matter what caused it, a break up can be painful. It can also be necessary. With the limited time we have on this earth, moments not spent being happy or pursuing happiness don't seem to be worth the stress. Our lives are complicated but imagine if you were famous. Is it all that different as to why people breakup or divorce? Let's find out in MFW: EPISODE 30 - Breakup 2 Breakup.
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Worst Attributes (Episode 29)
If you can dish it, then you can take it, rIght? In this episode, we let each other know what we think each other's least personal attributes are. Hopefully, we can stay on topic on this one. This is Married... For What?! (Episode 29)
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Greatest Attributes (Episode 28)
We already know the usual great attributes like honesty, love, trust and respect that goes into a marriage or relationship. Aside from the ones we hear all the time, what is your partner's greatest attribute that they may not know of? Find out what Leia's super power is and what attribute Sha didn't even know he has. This is Married... For What?! (Episode 28)
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Fitting In (Episode 27)
As our youngest child embarks on the treacherous territory of what is called middle school, Leia and I find ourselves concerned with our daughter fitting in. Our daughter has her own concerns, which have brought up our own times when fitting in in school. The awkwardness, the friends, the not-so friends, and the change within ourselves. Enjoy this episode. (Episode 27)
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5 Questions About Us Pt. 1 (Episode 26)
The best sleep of our lives, movies we weren't supposed to watch when we were younger, and Sha's issues with FedEx. This is Episode 26 of Married For What?! (EPISODE 26)
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Sleeping Habits (Episode 25)
When you're dating, cuddling is the groove. It feels good. You both feel safe, secure and most of all comfortable. Welp... after you got married, it dawned on you that the thermostat does not have to be set to tundra when we go to bed! (Episode 25)
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Quirky Things Your Partner Does That Make You Laugh (Ep. 24)
Our last episode was kind of deep sooooo, in today's episode we talk about how Sha is gaining weight, Leia's tongue rolling skills and a quirky thing we do that makes each other laugh.(Episode 24)
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The Hardest Point of Our Relationship Was... (Ep: 23)
Every relationship has tough moments. Moments that define a relationship or moments that can make or break a marriage. I guess, all marriages aren't meant to last. Find out what happened with us. (Episode 23)
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Forms of Intimacy in a Marriage (S2:E1)
Intimacy. We have all heard of it and we may even know it’s important in a marriage but what is it for you? This episode you'll hear about what intimacy is for us, PDA (public displays of affection), and how Leia has an unhealthy relationship with massages. This is Season two for us and we're excited to be back.
Also, check our blog series "Pillow Talk" (*Pillow Talk is a quick chat about what goes into a marriage and what should be important to keep it strong.)
Show Credits:
- Written By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Produced By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Performed By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Post Production By: Shaheim Kellum
- Music By: Shaheim Kellum
Trailer - Forms of Intimacy in a Marriage (S2:E1)
Intimacy. We have all heard of it and we may even know it’s important in a marriage but what is it for you? This episode you'll hear about what intimacy is for us, PDA (public displays of affection), and how Leia has an unhealthy relationship with massages. This is Season two for us and we're excited to be back.
Also, check our blog series "Pillow Talk" (*Pillow Talk is a quick chat about what goes into a marriage and what should be important to keep it strong.)
Show Credits:
- Written By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Produced By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Performed By: Caleia Thomas- Kellum & Shaheim Kellum
- Post Production By: Shaheim Kellum
- Music By: Shaheim Kellum
Couples Retreat - We're Baaaaaack!!! w/ Sara & Alex (S1:E21)
Welcome to our second installment of “Couples Retreat”. On Couples Retreat, we interview different couples to find out how they make their marriage or relationship work! For our second episode we interviewed Sara and her long time partner Alex. This couple keeps it all the way real about their relationship and they've done to make it work. It's not all the best of times but even in the worst of times, the love remains. This entire episode was full of laughs and love. We hope you enjoy it!
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What You Need In A Marriage #1 RESPECT (S1:E20)
There’s a lot that goes into a marriage and the number one thing should be RESPECT!!! Without respect for your other half, you’ll find yourself not valuing one another. Respect each other’s time, space, interests and passions. Respect each other’s sacrifice and respect their progress. Respect the highs because they are joyful and respect the lows because you made it through together. Respect is not a given, it’s proven and earned so do not take it lightly once you have it. Most of all, even though you’re in a marriage or long-term relationship, it’s essential to respect yourself because if you don’t, who will?
Do you NEED me or you just WANT me? (S1:E19)
Some people feel they should be needed and not just wanted in their marriage. Do you need your significant other or do you just want them? Is being needed a deal breaker for you? For some, it is and in this episode you'll hear how one couple weighed their entire relationship on a need and a want?
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Couples Retreat - Liz & Bradley (S1:E18)
Welcome to our second installment of “Couples Retreat”. On Couples Retreat, we interview different couples to find out how they make their marriage or relationship work! For our second episode we interviewed Liz and her husband Bradley. We find out the best and worst parts about marriage, the challenges and pressures they've faced, and how they make it work for them in their own special way. This entire episode was full of marriage nuggets and laughs. We hope you enjoy it!
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Yelling Around Your Kids! (S1:E17)
Sha: "I'm not a yeller."
Leia: "Ooooo, the lies you tell."
Sha: "WHAT?!
Leia: "See, yelling already." SMH.
Leia: "You better lower your voice before the kids hear you."
Sha: **grumble**
Memory Lane Pt. 1 (S1:E16)
Leia & I decided to take a stroll down memory lane. I asked her what was some of her favorite memories back when we were dating? She did not disappoint but did bring up a bunch of things we probably won't be able to allow our parents to hear. Enjoy!
Flashback: 8 Reasons to NOT Get Married (S1:E15)
Trailer: Couples Retreat "Victoria & Al" (S1:E14)
Couples Retreat: Victoria & Al (S1:E14)
Welcome to a special episode we like to call “Couples Retreat”. On Couples Retreat, we interview different couples to find out how they make their relationship or marriage work! For our first episode we interviewed Leia's high school pal, Vickie and her husband Al. We find out the best and worst part about their marriage, the challenges and pressures they've faced in their marriage, and how they make it work in their own special way. This entire episode was full of marriage nuggets and laughs. We hope you enjoy it!
Trailer: Dream Cheating? (S1:E13)
Does it count if your spouse cheats on you in their dreams? Are you being faithful in your dreams? Does it mean anything in reality? Let’s find out what Leia and Sha have to say. Tune in and follow us on Instagram @TheMFWPodcast
Dream Cheating? (S1:E13)
Does it count if your spouse cheats on you in their dreams? Are you being faithful in your dreams? Does it mean anything in reality? Let’s find out what Leia and Sha have to say. Tune in and follow us on Instagram @TheMFWPodcast
Trailer: Are You Obligated To Be Intimate? (S1:E12)
Here's the trailer for Season 1: Episode 10 "Are You Obligated To Be Intimate? "I feel so guilty that I don’t want to right now…" How often has this crossed your mind? If it has, it's okay. You're not alone. As usual, like/follow us on Instagram @TheMFWPodcast, subscribe and turn on your notifications to get alerts when episodes are ready!
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Are You Obligated to To Be Intimate? (S1:E11)
"I feel so guilty that I don’t want to right now…" How often has this crossed your mind? If it has, it's okay. You're not alone. Today, we dive into why this occurs for some people and what their partners may be feeling on the other side of it. Tune into to the episode. As usual, like/follow us on Instagram @TheMFWPodcast, subscribe and turn on your notifications to get alerts when episodes are ready!
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Trailer: Why Did You Choose Your Spouse? (S1:E9)
Dating can be a never ending journey until you find "THE ONE". But how did you know this person was the one? What was different about your spouse than any of the other people you've dated? In today's episode we explain what is was the I saw in Leia and what Leia saw in me that was different from anyone else we ever dated. Enjoy the show and join the conversation on Instagram and comment what was different about your spouse than any of the others you've dated.
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Trailer: How long is too long to wait? (S1:E10)
This episode is a throwback from when we did Facebook Live broadcasts. I think we covered this topic so well that we brought it back out and explained 8 reasons you should not get married. Tell us if you agree or disagree.
How long is too long to wait? (S1:E10)
Every couple has gone through "THE WAIT". I'm not talking about the wait up until the first time y'all take it to the next level. I'm talking about the time between that last time and the next time, y'all get it in. Some have gone weeks, months and even years without getting it on, the question is how long is too long for you to go without any intimacy or doing the wild thang?
Notice: This topic gets a little deep when after you have children but I'll let Leia fill y'all in on that.
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Why Did You Choose Your Spouse? (S1:E9)
Dating can be a never ending journey until you find "THE ONE". But how did you know this person was the one? What was different about your spouse than any of the other people you've dated? In today's episode we explain what is was the I saw in Leia and what Leia saw in me that was different from anyone else we ever dated. Enjoy the show and join the conversation on Instagram and comment what was different about your spouse than any of the others you've dated.
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REPLAY: Men, Do You Feel Obligated to Solve Her Problems? (S1:E8)
Fellas, are you the problem solver in your relationship? If so, have you gained a false sense of control? This episode is a replay of one we did before but we felt it needed it's own light. All women aren't a damsel in distress but should they be, to keep a happy marriage? Dive in to this episode and let's discuss.
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How much influence should your family have on your marriage? (S1:E7)
Trailer: Can married people have single friends? (S1:E6)
"Yeah. Yeah right!?" That's trouble waiting to happen. You're married. Your spouse is your friend and you don't need to be out there with all the people still looking for someone to love. You got that right here at home... or do you?
Can married people have single friends? (S1:E6)
Fix Me A Plate, Please. (S1:E5)
We grew up knowing about the tradition of the women in the relationship fixing the plates for their spouse. We read it in stories and watched it on TV as kids but should that be the norm today? Ladies, do you feel like you HAVE to fix your husband's plate or do you do it because you want to? Fellas, do you ever serve your wife's plate? Check out this short
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Going to bed angry... for what?! (S1:E4)
Since I'm the one writing this, let me start by saying, Leia is "ALWAYS" mad at me. LOL. Yup, I'm telling the truth. I'll be sitting in my quiet corner reading poetry and looking beyond the trees when she'll... (oops, there's that side eye look she gives me). "Okay, Okay" Lol. "I'll stop." Truth is, I mess with her a lot and that's just how we work. She does it to me too but sometimes all those jokes, conversations and disagreements get real. We both know this and we made sure even before we got married that we would have a rule. Not only will we address it in the moment but we will not go to bed angry with each other, period. (As she walks into the other room) I'm never mad, especially when I'm right. (oh, here she comes). "Okay, Okay, I'll delete it... Sike!!!" (Villainous laughter). I'm going to pay for that.
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What happens when your kid doesn't want to go to college? (S1:E3)
You've raised a bright young child and they have excelled in school but one day in their senior year of high school, they come to you and say, "I don't wanna go to college." Say whaaaaaaatttt? As a parent, what do you do? What do you say? We know college isn't for everyone and you might be paying for it, but do you force them to go? This is Marriage... For What?! and this problem we address today! Also, why do men get a false sense of control from women?
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Harry - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Harry, an amazing husband and father of five children. We got to learn his journey as father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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Lenny - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Lenny, an amazing husband and father of two children. We got to learn his journey as father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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Bradley - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Bradley, an amazing husband and father of one child. We got to learn his journey as father, his relationship with his own father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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Manny - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Manny, an amazing husband and father of two children. We got to learn his journey as father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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Hoolie - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Hoolie, an amazing husband and father of three children. We got to learn his journey as father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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Luis - Father's Day Special (S1:E2:Special)
Thank you for joining us today. We have a special Father’s Day "Married... For What?!" show celebrating a few men who we know are incredible dads. We had the pleasure of interviewing Luis, an amazing husband and father of three children. We got to learn his journey as father, what having children has taught him and what being a father has meant to him.
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