Skip to main content
Pure to Pieces

Pure to Pieces

By Morgan McGill

Hi, I'm Morgan and I'm an artist. I'm also recovering from fundamentalist christianity. I will be sitting down with other artists, recovering christians, activists, psychologists, doctors, & friends to explore what we have been taught, how our identities have shifted, and how we will move forward. In year 1, we will hear personal stories about purity culture's effect. In year 2, I will spotlight artists who are answering their own personal, critical questions. I will, in every way possible, open my imagination to the task of staying curious.
Available on
Google Podcasts Logo
Pocket Casts Logo
RadioPublic Logo
Spotify Logo
Currently playing episode

Jocelyn Lee

Pure to PiecesJul 17, 2022

00:00
29:48
Jocelyn Lee
Jul 17, 202229:48
Summer Brooks
Jul 03, 202226:41
Hannah McBroom
Jun 19, 202230:30
Kaviya Ravi
Jun 12, 202231:37
Julie Longest

Julie Longest

For the one year anniversary of the podcast, Julie Longest has a mother-daughter conversation with Morgan. Julie talks about the messiness of family, nuances of modesty, and how she left evangelicalism while her family was still there. She explains what it was like deciding on her own truth and talks about passing on empowerment through the family. Connect with Julie @bentfeatherpottery.
Feb 20, 202245:34
Tessi Muskrat Rickabaugh
Feb 13, 202222:57
Dr. Amra Sabic El-Rayess

Dr. Amra Sabic El-Rayess

Dr. Amra Sabic El-Rayess explains what it was like growing up in Bosnia & Herzegovina during the Bosnian Genocide. She talks about the courses she offers at Columbia University that examine social transformation and moral resilience. Her online program, "Reimagine Resilience," teaches educators how to navigate classroom conversations about acceptance and othering. Amra and Morgan talk about how to be religious without being extreme and why her students find her so inspiring. Register for the Reimagine Resilience program for free at: https://reimagineresilience.org (courses start July 2022).
Feb 06, 202235:43
ARTIST TALK: Portia Munson

ARTIST TALK: Portia Munson

Portia talks to Morgan about gathering objects for her intriguing installations and how the idea started on residency at Fine Arts Work Center. Portia explains how ideals and expectations of women have changed from her viewpoint over her lifetime and how interconnected the environment is with feminism. Portia has exhibited everywhere from Bryant Park Subway Station to Mass MOCA, Art Basel, and PPOW Gallery. Follow Portia @portiamunson on instagram to see when and where her next exhibitions are on view and check out her 21C installation in Louisville through January 2023.
Jan 30, 202225:11
o[liv]ia
Jan 23, 202233:32
Bradley Onishi
Jan 16, 202231:45
ARTIST TALK: Marcella Colavecchio

ARTIST TALK: Marcella Colavecchio

Marcella talks to Morgan about her new body of paintings using alter-egos to talk about anatomy and psychology. The two talk about their love for Italy and an old tradition using cellophane. Marcella is based in Austin, TX and is looking for new models all the time! Check her work out @marcellaispainting on instagram.
Jan 09, 202231:54
ARTIST TALK: Emilia Cruz
Jan 02, 202232:23
Melissa Payne

Melissa Payne

Melissa is a Psychotherapist with a focus on spirituality. Melissa and Morgan talk about the positive and negative affects of therapists telling clients what kinds of safe spaces they provide. Melissa talks about poetry as an art form she loves and how she finds beauty in the world. She speaks to the importance of women's pleasure and how it is related to mental health.
Jan 01, 202241:21
Andreya Jones

Andreya Jones

Andreya is a sex therapist writing a curriculum for women recovering from purity culture. Andreya tells Morgan about growing up in a missionary family in Papa New Guinea and why her story led her to pursue sex therapy. She talks about how to educate young kids on consent and body language and how visual art is impactful in her practice. See what Dreya is up to @dreya_9. *Trigger warning: we discuss sexual abuse.
Dec 26, 202139:05
Jon Martin

Jon Martin

Jon tells Morgan about growing up going to different churches in the south and how he now lives in California as a writer. Jon explains how he can fully express himself in his writing and the two talk about the show "Sex Education." Follow Jon and his writing @jonlmartin on instagram.
Dec 19, 202116:17
ARTIST TALK: Vaidehi Kinkhabwala

ARTIST TALK: Vaidehi Kinkhabwala

Vaidehi tells Morgan about art as her life source while suffering an autoimmune disorder. Vaidehi explains the difference in patriarchy in India vs. the U.S. and how she transitioned into the New York lifestyle 13 years ago. She is currently working on an NFT project curated by Paris Hilton and explains how she believes visual art resonates with people. See Vaidehi's art @vaidehikinkhabwala.
Dec 12, 202120:20
Elissa Branum
Dec 05, 202134:53
ARTIST TALK: Kathleen Garcia

ARTIST TALK: Kathleen Garcia

Kathy talks to Morgan about knowing she was bisexual when she was 5 years old and how art has been a constant in her life since a young age. She explains how this led her to become an art therapist and collaborate with artists today. Kathy has an art show up at Mellwood Art Center in Louisville, KY till Dec. 1st. DM Kathy for art inquiries @kathythekaptain on instagram.
Nov 21, 202127:51
Sara Moslener

Sara Moslener

Sara talks about writing her second book and her focus on how white supremacy perpetuates purity culture and vice versa. Sara tells Morgan about the time in her life when her thinking changed and she eventually decided to go to seminary. She talks about the art of gardening and explains "blackout poetry" as an artistic method for healing. Find Sara @saramoslener on instagram.
Nov 14, 202130:02
ARTIST TALK: Reena Acryzo

ARTIST TALK: Reena Acryzo

Reena tells Morgan about being a 16 year old today and what health class is like at school. She speaks wisely about her knowledge of different sexual orientations and the construction of gender. Reena talks about the art she is working on right now and the vocabulary we use when talking about people different than us.
Nov 01, 202116:54
Jenny McGrath
Nov 01, 202138:28
Victoria Houser
Oct 17, 202150:42
Megan

Megan

Megan talks to Morgan about going to an all-girls Catholic school, her thoughts on prayer, and using dance as a way to heal. They both discuss pronouns for god and the lack of sex ed they experienced growing up.
Oct 15, 202146:36
ARTIST TALK: Blanche Froelich

ARTIST TALK: Blanche Froelich

Blanche talks about thinking existentially and how that put her on a path of art making. She explains the death of a parent as both a driving force and hindrance to creating and how the pandemic has affected her creatively. Blanche and Morgan talk about the culture of competition between artists and how collaboration is the new memo. They conclude that being playful with art is never a bad idea.
Oct 03, 202140:54
Sarah Morgan

Sarah Morgan

Sarah talks with Morgan about growing up "doing the things Christian Southern Baptist women should do" and how she came to the renaissance of herself by asking questions and looking for beauty in the world. Morgan and Sarah recount the lack of sex ed they had in highschool and at the end, discuss monogamy and sexual fluidity.
Oct 03, 202141:57
Kathryn House

Kathryn House

Kathryn talks to Morgan about her recent dissertation on purity culture, the harm of white evangelical purity culture in so many sectors of society, and analytical ways to approach the subject. Kathryn and Morgan talk about art and the positive influence it's had on their lives while beginning to trust their bodies again.
Sep 21, 202142:52
ARTIST TALK: Eleanor Cowell
Sep 19, 202125:17
Perrin Bailey

Perrin Bailey

Perrin talks to Morgan about applying for divinity school while being openly queer. The two talk about boundaries and how purity culture does more harm than good. They end with talking about curiosity and making new rules for yourself.
Sep 07, 202140:07
Jennifer Neyhart

Jennifer Neyhart

Jennifer tells Morgan about how her thinking changed from not being allowed to think sexual thoughts as a girl to coming out as a gay woman. She talks about the struggle with her family's acceptance and how she changed seminaries till she found one that would accept her as she is.
Aug 29, 202135:45
ARTIST TALK: Betsy Oh
Aug 23, 202135:52
Monique Moultrie

Monique Moultrie

Monique explains the difference between growing up in black purity culture vs. white purity culture and the different expectations of women in each group. Monique shares with Morgan how she started to think for herself in college and how that motivated her to keep studying African American religions and sexual ethics.
Aug 19, 202130:42
McKenzie Ballard

McKenzie Ballard

McKenzie talks to Morgan about rules on drinking and curfew at her Methodist College, going by feelings vs. facts, and how her belief systems continue to change as her frontal lobe develops. McKenzie explains why mental health needs to be discussed in church and Morgan suggests that pastors aren't as qualified as therapists. They both talk about picking and choosing what to believe from the Bible and how this informs our ethics today.
Aug 18, 202155:29
ARTIST TALK: Kipp Kobayashi
Aug 03, 202132:52
Brian Murphy
Jul 29, 202132:34
Caroline Miller

Caroline Miller

Caroline tells Morgan about growing up in an all girl's Catholic school. She explains how comprehensive sex education can help students. Caroline uses her knowledge of the law to explain how purity culture has filtered down through the system for a long time. Morgan and Caroline discuss ways laws could be reformed in order to prevent sexual assault. They both talk about different media sources and trying to understand different perspectives by stepping into other people's shoes.
Jul 20, 202157:55
ARTIST TALK: Kat Knutsen

ARTIST TALK: Kat Knutsen

Kat talks to Morgan about the pros and cons of getting an Art degree after talking about growing up in the Pentecostal church. Kat is a multimedia artist who was one of the 148 selected artists worldwide to work on the 2018 Oscar Nominated film "Loving Vincent." She talks about being told to focus on painting over animation but how experimenting with different media has made her an overall better professor and artist.
Jul 11, 202144:11
Eréndira Jiménez
Jul 02, 202150:51
Sam

Sam

Sam talks to Morgan about growing up in rural Kentucky and the repercussions of teaching boys not to be emotional. He explains the difficulties of finding porn at a young age and the shame he felt of not being able to talk about sex. He shares stories about the men he met while incarcerated and how he listens to his body today.
Jun 24, 202148:58
ARTIST TALK: Alexandra Rubinstein
Jun 19, 202135:41
Emily Joy Allison

Emily Joy Allison

Emily, author of #Churchtoo, talks to Morgan about the difference between sexual assault in the culture at large vs. assault that happens in church contexts. She talks about epistemological pathways in our brains and how we learn and can change. #churchtoo #purityculture #puretopieces
Jun 15, 202149:58
Tina Schermer Sellers

Tina Schermer Sellers

Tina talks to Morgan about being a sex therapist and sex educator. She explains how U.S. culture has evolved politically in relation to the Christian church. Her book, "Sex, God, and the Conservative Church," explains the integration of spirituality and sexuality. Her new book is called "Shameless Parenting: Everything You Need to Raise Shame-free, Confident Kids & Heal Your Shame Too." Link for book: https://www.tinaschermersellers.com/ Link for classes for professionals: nwioi.com
Jun 03, 202159:22
ARTIST TALK: Tiffany Cole
May 29, 202143:14
Dani Fankhauser
May 24, 202136:35
Katherine Manning

Katherine Manning

Katherine and Morgan talk about the Christian school they went to from elementary through highschool together. Katherine describes the lack of identity she felt when she was so immersed in church and how meeting people different from her has helped her see new perspectives. Connect with Katherine @katherine_tmanning.
May 16, 202152:44
ARTIST TALK: Abi Joy Samuel

ARTIST TALK: Abi Joy Samuel

ARTIST TALK! Abi talks to me all the way from England about how she is the real life Flea Bag. She explains living in and using an ex-brothel for an art exhibition, having a moment with Jesus even though she's Jewish, and how foster care influences her art to this day. Look up Abi's work at abijoysamuelart.com!
May 10, 202158:32
Shannon TL Kearns
Apr 30, 202126:41
Sarah Lewis

Sarah Lewis

If you've ever wanted to hear about lesbian writers and being in a cult in the same conversation, this episode is for you!
Apr 23, 202159:05
Anthony Bowman

Anthony Bowman

Anthony helps me dissect church teachings on masturbation, pornography, patriarchy, and teaches me about afantasia.
Apr 19, 202142:01
Matthias Roberts
Apr 10, 202150:16
Carrie Cole

Carrie Cole

Carrie and Morgan talk about growing up in independent Christian School together, reuniting during college, how their deconstruction process has looked, and exploring what their sexualities mean to them.
Apr 04, 202130:07