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More Than Metaphors hosted by Dr. Kecia Brown

More Than Metaphors hosted by Dr. Kecia Brown

By Dr. Kecia Brown
"More Than Metaphors" is a virtual love space for those poetic and poetic-ish voices to examine the question: What happens when we find the courage to live our poetry out loud? A conversation led by Author, Educator, Entrepreneur and Poet Dr. Kecia Brown (“Dr. Kecia”); More Than Metaphors combines guest interviews and posts from Dr. Kecia’s blog which focuses on transformative learning, love, justice, and liberation. Each episode of this podcast will provide encouragement for leading more meaningful, spirited and poetic lives.
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Episode 15: Poem - The Mothers Have Come

More Than Metaphors hosted by Dr. Kecia Brown

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Episode 21 - Know Thyself, Know for Thyself & Rise into Resilience
In this last interview for season #1, Dr. Kecia speaks with “Weekend Philosopher,” Husband, Girl Dad (times 4), and NASA Astronaut, Navy Commander, Victor J. Glover, Jr. In this conversation, Victor reflects on the various lessons he has learned from his elders and contemporaries. He also shares the inspiring exchange between his younger self and the person he is now that has helped him “propel” his career, as well as support the “launch” of his firstborn child into college. A special “Thank You” to the good people of NASA for coordinating this interview. The interview was recorded on September 20, 2021. Song for this Episode: Title: “How It Feels to Fly” Artist: Alicia Keys Album: The Element of Freedom Released: 2009 Copyright ©: J Records/RCA Records Watch this episode on YouTube! Enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Feel free to listen to this episode on your favorite podcasting platform like Spotify, Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Gaana, Google Podcast and others! ------------ Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air!
01:07:21
October 5, 2021
Episode 20: Do You Have a "Love Space?"
This episode defines what a "Love Space" and recommends that listeners create their very own space of love and rejuvenation. Content of episode are from the 8-29-21 post found at http://drkeciab.com/2021/08/29/do-you-have-a-love-space/.  Song for this Episode:  Title: “Sacred Space”  Artist: India Aire  Album: Worthy  Released: 2019  Feel free to enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist.  Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
08:50
August 31, 2021
Episode 15: Poem - The Mothers Have Come
TRIGGER WARNING: This poem was written May 25, 2020 after the heinous murder of George Floyd one year ago today. This poem depicts violent imagery, yet not nearly as violent as what the world witnessed on the day (now) 7-year old Gianna Floyd had her father ripped from her life. The contents of this poem may be haunting and are not meant for young audiences, those who have witnessed or have directly experienced forms of violence. Please be advised. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air. 
03:08
August 1, 2021
Episode 19 - Part 1: The Nikole Hannah-Jones Effect: The Black Woman’s Artistry in Flipping Scripts and Tables
In part one of this three-part episode (so much goodness), entrepreneur, educator and “space curator” Alisa France stops by to celebrate “The Nikole Hannah-Jones Effect.” Alisa also shares her learning journey navigating work environments. This episode was recorded on 7/6/21. Follow Alisa and her ventures on: IG: Personal - @imsofrancey Meliaison - @meliaison Financial Tracking System - @financialtrackingsystem Aight, So Boom Game - @aightsoboomgame ELVYN TREE Coaching & Consulting - @elvyn.tree Luxcarious (Car rentals) - @luxcarious Websites: Meliaison.com Elvyntree.com (coming soon!) Car Rentals on Turo Airbnb Rentals: https://abnb.me/VCzZ6a20Rhb https://abnb.me/akZbQGq1Rhb Song for this Episode: Title: Diva Artist: Beyoncé Album: I Am...Sasha Fierce Released:  2008 Copyright; © Sony Music Entertainment Movie clip in this episode/part: Title: Everybody Rejoice Film: The Wiz Released:  1978 Copyright; © Motown Productions Feel free to enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Merch Shout Out: Click here to get your Mind on My Business t-shirt! Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! . . . . . . . . . . . . . A special Thank You to Prdesignstudio for designing the Mind on My Business t-shirt! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Are you looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
50:31
July 21, 2021
Episode 19 - Part 2: The Nikole Hannah-Jones Effect: The Black Woman’s Artistry in Flipping Scripts and Tables
In this second part of her three-part conversation with Dr. Kecia, Alisa France continues her reflections on “The Nikole Hannah-Jones Effect” and the messages sent to Black women professionals, as well as discussing some of the very real barriers to thriving (and beyond) in the workplace. Alisa also introduces us to the concepts of “The Box and The Balloon.” 7 Questions from this episode: What does safety look like for me in this environment? How am I showing up in this space? What will it take for me to show up authentically (if I am not already doing so)? What energetic currency am I utilizing in order to be in this space? What flex am I engaged in that is connected to my passions? How can I excel vs. simply survive this environment? What would the conversation between me and my younger self sound like regarding our surviving, thriving, and excelling journey? Sound clips in this episode/part: Title: Scandal Ep. Sweet Baby Released:  2012 Copyright: © ABC Entertainment Title: The Color Purple Artist: Alice Walker/Steven Spielberg Released:  1985 Copyright; © Warner Bros. Films . . . . . . . . . . . . . Merch Shout Out: Click here to get your Mind on My Business t-shirt! Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! . . . . . . . . . . . . . A special Thank You to Prdesignstudio for designing the Mind on My Business t-shirt! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Are you looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
50:15
July 18, 2021
Episode 19 - Part 3: The Nikole Hannah-Jones Effect: The Black Woman’s Artistry in Flipping Scripts and Tables
In this final part of her conversation with Dr. Kecia, Alisa France talks about her hopes for our next generation leaders, while giving Nikole Hannah-Jones her flowers for providing a blueprint on excellence and the power of the ultimate Flex. Follow Alisa and her ventures on: IG: Personal - @imsofrancey Meliaison - @meliaison Financial Tracking System - @financialtrackingsystem Aight, So Boom Game - @aightsoboomgame ELVYN TREE Coaching & Consulting - @elvyn.tree Luxcarious (Car rentals) - @luxcarious Websites: Meliaison.com Elvyntree.com (coming soon!) Car Rentals on Turo Airbnb Rentals: https://abnb.me/VCzZ6a20Rhb https://abnb.me/akZbQGq1Rhb . . . . . . . . . . . . . Merch Shout Out: Click here to get your Mind on My Business t-shirt! Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! . . . . . . . . . . . . . A special Thank You to Prdesignstudio for designing the Mind on My Business t-shirt! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Are you looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
30:33
July 18, 2021
Episode 18 - Part 2: 360 Degrees of Power & Pride
Dr. Kecia and guest therapist Anthony Parham, continue their conversation from Part 1 and talk candidly about surviving, learning and thriving after divorce in Part 2. Here are 7 Questions to reflect on from the conversation: Are any of my red flags popping up for me as I engage with this other person? Am I projecting onto the other person and why? Why did the conversation go the way that it did and why (if at all) did I feel the need to defend myself?  Does that mean I am ready for dating or do I need to take a step back? Where are some of my shadow sides I need to look into? How am I reacting and responding to what is going on around me right now? Have I been taught to say “NO” and honor my “No”? How do I best utilize my time alone to heal? How do I take care of myself when there is so much out there that doesn’t want me to focus on my healing? These questions and more are discussed in this light-hearted and thought-provoking conversation for those who are dipping their toes back into the dating pool post-divorce. Feel free to listen to Part 1 or watch the full episode on YouTube. Enjoy our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Merch Shout Out: More Than Metaphors shirts available. Buy one, get one 50% off. Use Promo Code: NEW2021 Order Anthony’s CLAYTONE long-sleeve tee and support one of the groups he is a part of Dedicated Incredible Loyal Fathers Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! A special Thank You to Prdesignstudio for designing our More Than Metaphors shirts! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Are you looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
46:29
July 11, 2021
Episode 18 - Part 1: 360 Degrees of Power & Pride
In this two-part episode, Dr. Kecia speaks with licensed marriage/family therapist and content creator, Anthony Parham.  In this first episode, Anthony discusses how he goes about supporting youth in the foster care system; clients of his practice, Circle of Life Therapies; as well as advocating for himself and his sons with power and purpose.  Follow Anthony on TikTok: simba_ze_therapist or Instagram: circleoflifetherapies. Watch this episode on YouTube. Song for this Episode: Title: “Umi Says” Artist: Mos Def/Yasiin Bey Album: Black on Both Sides Released: 1999 Copyright ©: Rawkus Records/Priority Records Feel free to enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist.  Merch Shout Out: More Than Metaphors shirts available. Buy one, get one 50% off. Use Promo Code: NEW2021 Order Anthony’s CLAYTONE long-sleeve tee and support one of the groups he is a part of Dedicated Incredible Loyal Fathers Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! A special Thank You to Prdesignstudio for designing our More Than Metaphors shirts! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Are you looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
55:00
July 9, 2021
Episode 17: Black Love, Black Genius and the Power of Sankofa
In this episode, Dr. Kecia speaks with Licensed Psychologist, Dr. Satira Streeter Corbitt (“Dr. Satira”). Dr. Satira talks about her journey to supporting the love, genius and wellbeing of families through her practice, Ascensions Psychological Services, Inc. She also shares parenting tips and advice for couples, as well as shares excerpts from her first children’s book “Black Genius: A Journal of History and Affirmation.”  Feel free to watch this episode on YouTube.  Reach out to Dr. Satira at www.drsatira.com/ to learn more about ways she can support you and your family.  Want a free copy of Black Genius? Email dr.kecia@drkeciab.com!  Song for this Episode: Title: “Move On Up” Artist: Curtis Mayfield Album: Curtis Released: 1970 Copyright ©: Curtom Records Feel free to enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. --- NEW! Want to represent your new favorite podcast? Order your More Than Metaphors shirt or mug today at www.drkeciab.com.co/! Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: contact@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even read your message on the air! --- A special Thank You to Sam of Kingdom_Media for the video/audio editing support! From now through the end of July, I will be highlighting the talented artists I found on Fiverr who have helped get my podcast off the ground. Looking for a talented designer or editor? Say less and get more with Fiverr!
01:06:09
June 28, 2021
Episode 16: Poem - Love’s Shores
In this episode, Dr. Kecia shares a poem that she wrote inspired by I Corinthians 13:4-7 (NLT version).  Sending love to all of the readers in the United States, India, Pakistan, Canada, Ecuador, Romania, Russia, Croatia, Sweden and Denmark, who read the poem moments after it was published on drkeciab.com! Song for this Episode: Title: “Love” Artist: Musiq Soulchild Album: Aijuswanaseing Released: 2000 Feel free to enjoy this song and others on our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
04:53
June 13, 2021
Episode 14: Poem - The Future Is Waiting For You
In this episode, Dr. Kecia shares a poem that she wrote honoring our next generation leaders during this Graduation Season.  Song for this Episode: “I Believe”  Artist: KB Album: Tomorrow We Live Released: 2015 Feel free to enjoy our playlist! Simply search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist.  Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
07:03
May 21, 2021
Episode 2: The Poem I Will Never Write
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This episode highlights an original piece of poetry written by our host. This episode is also available as a blog post: http://drkeciab.com/2021/02/06/the-poem-i-will-never-write/. Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on air!
12:15
May 3, 2021
Episode 13: Love and Liberation Beyond the Vortex
Today’s guest is award-winning educator, activist, author and poet, Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz. Dr. Sealey-Ruiz talks about her healing journey chronicled in her two works of poetry: “Love from the Vortex and Other Poems” and her forthcoming book “The Peace Chronicles.” In this “compassionately honest” conversation, Dr. Kecia and Dr. Sealey-Ruiz examines how our ability to speak our truths with love, while interrupting destructive ways of thinking/acting, supports our healing and that of our next generation leaders. Yolanda’s More Than Metaphors Playlist contributions: Free by Deniece Williams © 1976 Deniece Williams R U Ready by Salt-N-Pepa ©1997 Sandra "Pepa" Denton and Cheryl "Salt" James Phenomenon by LL Cool J ©1997 James Todd Smith Feel free to enjoy the playlist on Spotify, Apple Music and Tidal. Search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air! You can also watch the interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ljar4yI2GHQ
01:06:40
April 25, 2021
Episode 12 Part 1: Politics, Hip Hop and Re-Membering Home
Sociologist, Author and Higher Education Leader, Dr. A. Rafik Mohamed reflects on the intersections of storytelling and politics in remembering (recalling) his journey from D.C. to California, while re-membering (putting together again) a feeling of home. He and Dr. Kecia also square off on a hip hop trivia challenge to (possibly) end their 20+ year East Coast/West Coast beef [Timestamp: 53:45-1:04]! Rafik’s More Than Metaphors Playlist contributions: King of Rock © 1985 Run DMC Can’t Truss It © 1991 Public Enemy Ain’t No Future in Yo’ Frontin’ © 1991 MC Breed Feel free to enjoy the playlist on Spotify, Apple Music and Tidal. Search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air! You can also watch the interview on YouTube.
01:38:26
April 18, 2021
Episode 11: Part 1: Being All the Things: Beyond Expectation and “Instagram Ash”
Part one of a conversation with one of the co-hosts of the “The Adjacent Self” podcast and Principal of Kendra Dorlenda Coaching & Consulting. Kendra Stewart reflects on her evolution into supporting the personal development of others. She also talks about the importance of re-connecting to the world around us while keeping “Instagram Ash” at bay. Are you “Instagram Ashy?” Listen to this episode and find out! Kendra’s More Than Metaphors Playlist contribution: Alive by Sia Feel free to enjoy the playlist on Spotify, Apple Music and Tidal. Search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
31:24
April 17, 2021
Episode 10: A Poetic Love “After The Snap”
Our very first More than Metaphors interview is with Author, Poet and Inglewood’s Mahogany Son, Kian A. Furnace and his amazing wife, ReShockie Furnace! This lively and thought-provoking conversation looks at what and how we can learn to love ourselves and others after experiencing divorce. Kian and ReShockie share their truths (and lots of laughter) as they discuss how they went about their healing process and eventually found their way back to each other. They also share their musical choices for the brand new More Than Metaphors Playlist: - Sunkissed Child by D Smoke ft. Jill Scott ©2020 D Smoke - Don't Let Me be Misunderstood ©1964 Nina Simone - Fall In Live  (Your Funeral) ©2010 Erykah Badu - Mark on Me ©2014 Eric Roberson Feel free to enjoy the playlist on Spotify, Apple Music and Tidal. Search for: More Than Metaphors: The Playlist. Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post from drkeciab.com brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
01:16:56
April 10, 2021
Episode 7: A Cure Within the Contagion
Reflecting on the lessons from Meghan Markle’s experiences and the recent mass shootings, Dr. Kecia shares her thoughts and gives us 7 Questions for our Selfwork (vs. homework). This episode is also a blog post and is available at https://drkeciab.com/2021/03/21/a-cure-within-the-contagion/ Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
14:40
March 28, 2021
Episode 8: How Dare You, Will Smith!
How can we begin to examine, transform and/or exit those romantic relationships (real and imagined) that are built on pain, destructive tendencies, emotional abuse, self-deception, and self-abandonment? Dr. Kecia shares her experience and drops the 7 Questions for us to consider. Much love to the real Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith! This episode is also a blog post and is available at https://drkeciab.com/2021/02/20/how-dare-you-will-smith/ Have questions, ideas or interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air!
12:43
March 26, 2021
Episode 6: When Regret Teaches, Take Notes
Reflecting on the life and legacy of Ms. Cicely Tyson, Dr. Kecia examines the lessons that regret can provide, while sharing with us her 7 Questions for managing Fear of Success/Fear of Failure.  This episode is also a blog post and is available at https://drkeciab.com/2021/02/06/when-regret-teaches-take-notes/. Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on the air! Excerpt of "Just As I Am" narrated by Cicely Tyson. Copyright 2021 by Libro.fm
12:19
March 7, 2021
Episode 5: My Valentine's Gift to You
This episode is a showering of love during a time when it feels like love is slipping away. This reminder, written on Valentine's Day 2021, is also available as a blog post: http://drkeciab.com/2021/02/14/my-valentines-gift-to-you/. Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on air!
05:45
March 7, 2021
Episode 4: Breathe Again
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This episode was based on my reflections after the November 2020 Presidential election, with an audio cameo by the great Dave Chappelle (a.k.a. Cousin Dave) and his SNL monologue after the election. The original blog post can be found at https://drkeciab.com/2020/11/08/breathe-again/. The "Breathe Again" YouTube video is available here.   Disclaimer: No copyright infringement intended. All rights and credits reserved to Dave Chappelle, Saturday Night Live and NBC/Peacock TV. Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on air!
08:17
March 7, 2021
Episode 3: Fire Lit: The More Than Metaphors Podcast
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In this episode, Dr. Kecia talks about the importance of taking risks/stepping out on faith/stepping into the flow after being encouraged by her "Sisterfriend" author, scholar and activist, Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz. This episode is also a blog post and is available at https://drkeciab.com/2021/02/27/fire-lit-the-more-than-metaphors-podcast/.  Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on air!
09:04
March 7, 2021
Episode 1: Allow Us to Introduce Ourselves: More Than Metaphors Podcast!
"More Than Metaphors" is a virtual love space for those poetic and poetic-ish voices to examine the question: What happens when we find the courage to live our poetry out loud? A conversation led by Author, Educator, Entrepreneur and Poet Dr. Kecia Brown (“Dr. Kecia”); More Than Metaphors combines guest interviews and posts from Dr. Kecia’s blog which focuses on transformative learning, love, justice, and liberation. Each episode of this podcast will provide encouragement for leading more meaningful, spirited and poetic lives. The hashtag for the podcast is #mtmetaphors. You can find us on Twitter and Instagram @mtmetaphors. For more information and other valuable resources, make sure to visit us at www.drkeciab.com. Interested in hearing a particular post brought into the podcast? Email Dr. Kecia: dr.kecia@drkeciab.com or leave a message at https://anchor.fm/mtmetaphors/message. Who knows, we might even play your message on air! Music produced by Tim Moor. Re-mix of Intro by Missy Sumoski 
03:08
March 4, 2021