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Mutations

By Jeremy D Johnson
Mutations is a podcast exploring latent futures in the radical present. We inhabit a time between times, between worlds—what are the emergent potentials, articulated visions, or, in a word, ‘mutations’ that can help us to pathfind our way into the future? What forms of integrative thinking and being are required for this leap? Author (Seeing Through the World), show host, and integral philosopher Jeremy D Johnson explores these questions through solo podcasts, readings, and with featured guests.
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21. The Acid Left w/ Adam Ray Adkins
Mutations speaks with Adam Ray Adkins of The Acid Left project on Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism, the felt sense of time and consciousness in our cultural phenomenology, and the role of creativity, art, and even spirituality on the Left for imagining a better world. The Acid Left on FB: https://www.facebook.com/theacidleft | On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLjoC_tct5byCV6JBoQPtA/featured | Support The Acid Left on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/acidleft ___ Mutations on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes Support Mutations on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Follow Jeremy's newsletter on Substack: https://jeremydjohnson.substack.com
01:17:52
January 12, 2021
20. The Aperspectival Body ft. Barbara Karlsen and Brandt Stickley
November 24, Barbara Karlsen and Brandt Stickley return to Mutations for a community call on embodying integral consciousness and exploring what they mean by the "aperspectival body." | Barbara Karlsen: http://www.barbarakarlsen.com, | Brandt Stickley: https://www.brandtstickley.com | Stay up to date on the next Mutations salon: https://jeremydjohnson.substack.com | Support Mutations: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson
01:48:12
November 28, 2020
19. Democratization of Time
Solo stream on Wednesday, Nov. 18 with Q&A. Talking about how we can make our way from globalization to planetization, my question for Noam Chomsky on the recent Stoa talk, reflections on P2P Theory, Gebser and decolonization, and generally exploring the "integral futurism" in next year's book (Fragments of an Integral Futurism). Event: The Aperspectival Body, ft. Barbara Karlsen and Brandt Stickley. November 24 @ 1 pm ET / 10 am PT. Register here (on Zoom). Mutations Podcast: https://anchor.fm/mutations Join the Mutations Patreon community: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Newsletter: https://jeremydjohnson.substack.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes Book: https://revelore.press/product/seeing-through-the-world/
01:29:29
November 19, 2020
18. Cultural Evolution and the Commons ft. Michel Bauwens
In this episode of Mutations, I speak with Michel Bauwens about the role of the commons for cultural evolution, the resurgence of P2P (Peer-to-Peer) networks during the global pandemic, and glimpses of integral, post-capitalist futures. Michel Bauwens is the founder and Vision Coordinator of the P2P Foundation and works in collaboration with a global group of researchers in the exploration of peer production, governance, and property. Michel is also the director of research of CommonsTransition.org. a platform for policy development aimed toward a society of the Commons and a founding member of the Commons Strategies Group, with Silke Helfrich and David Bollier, who have organised major global conferences on the commons and economics. Three recent books, amongst which (with Vasilis Kostakis), Network Society and Future Scenarios for a Collaborative Economy have been published in English, Dutch and French. Michel currently lives in Chiang Mai, Thailand and is currently finalizing a Commons Transition Plan for the city of Ghent in Belgium. https://twitter.com/mbauwens https://p2pfoundation.net https://commonstransition.org/peer-to... MUTATIONS: Join our Patreon community, which offers perks like weekly Zoom calls, Discord channel, and unpublished writing: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Listen to Mutations as a podcast: https://anchor.fm/mutations Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes Mutations on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mutat... #P2P #IntegralTheory #Commons
01:20:08
November 10, 2020
17. Talking with Ben Burgis on Canceling Comedians, the Future of the Left, and Democratizing Work
In this episode (cross-published with Growing Down) I talked with Ben Burgis. Ben is a philosophy instructor at Georgia State University Perimeter College, a Jacobin columnist, and the host of the “Give Them An Argument” podcast and YouTube show. He is also the author of Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left and the forthcoming Canceling Comedians While the World Burns: A Critique of the Contemporary Left. During the session, we touched on the cosmopolitan socialism of our mutual friend, the great Michael Brooks (Rest in Power), and why his vision of an integral left could be (or maybe ought to be) the future of international socialism. [NOTE: My audio was coming in low towards the beginning - I fixed that as we recorded].   https://benburgis.com // https://www.patreon.com/benburgis // https://twitter.com/GTAA_Show //#LeftisBest #CosmopolitanSocialism #Labor
01:28:16
October 22, 2020
16. Going Planetary - A Reading
A riff on the meaning of "planetary" culture, thinking, and ontology. This week I riffed on the nomenclature starting first with Eugene Thacker's via negativa and cosmological approach in In the Dust of this Planet and Lynn Margulis's biological approach in Symbiotic Planet.  Next week we'll explore the socio-political dimensions of this inquiry by revisiting Against the Web (Michael Brooks), Gaia, a Way of Knowing: Political Implications of the New Biology (William Irwin Thompson), and A Sociable God (Ken Wilber).  Support this podcast on Patreon | Watch Mutations Streams on YouTube | Podcast art by J. Andrew World
39:14
September 30, 2020
#05 Michael Brooks on Jordan Peterson, James Hillman, Integral Theory and Building Planetary Meshworks
For the fifth episode of MUTATIONS, I am pleased to bring you Michael Brooks. Michael is a political journalist, integral thinker, and host of The Michael Brooks show. Together we explore the Intellectual Dark Web (the subject of his upcoming book from Zero Books) and Jordan Peterson. We also consider the alternative depth psychologist, James Hillman (who arguably speaks more from the left), the applicability of Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory to politics, a need in the consciousness culture for a historic grounding in economic theory, and building towards authentic, bottom-up planetary meshworks. SHOW NOTES / FLORILEGIUM The Michael Brooks Show on Patreon Michael’s Twitter The Michael Brooks Show on YouTube Michael Brooks on Zero Books James Hillman, We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy—And the World’s Getting Worse James Hillman, Re-Visioning Psychology (Recommended) Rebel Wisdom with Doshin Nelson Roshi (apologies for the brain fog during the recording), “A Zen Master Talks About Jordan Peterson and the Shadow” Notes: This conversation and the heated, bifurcated response to it (200k+ views) is very interesting. So much so that there was a follow-up episode with Rebel Wisdom to reflect on why it hit such a nerve. Ken Wilber, in the late 90s and early 2000s, critiqued much of postmodern academia and the progressive left as “flatland reductionism,” “mean green meme” (via Don Beck’s Spiral Dynamics), and “aperspectival madness” (an unfortunate hijacking of Jean Gebser’s term, ‘aperspectival,’ which means something completely different) many years before the Peterson phenomenon in popular culture. There is some substance in these criticisms, (i.e. “true-but-partial”). As we noted in this episode by way of Mark Fisher’s essay, or Angela Nagel’s Kill All Normies, a critique from within the left is needed, and as Rebel Wisdom says often, “the left needs to get its house in order.” I’m in support of this. However, a knowledge and literacy of leftist“theory” is something I often sense is sorely lacking in the integral movement. This is something that Wilber shares with Peterson: a postmodern “allergy,” a lack of progressive metabolism. Integral oriented thinkers from the progressive left desperately need to step forward and bridge that gap.
01:18:06
September 19, 2020
15. Transcending Cancel Culture Critique [Stoa Talk]
This talk, “Transcending Cancel Culture Critique: An Integral Left with Jeremy Johnson,”  was presented at The Stoa on 8.25.20. Watch the video here. Thanks again to Peter Limberg for inviting me to present this talk and for permission to cross-publish on Mutations podcast. Please check out my accompanying article for this talk (read that here) where I break down the “three literacies” I think we need before we can have a substantive conversation about “transcending” cancel culture. Note: We’re about $5 from reaching a Patreon milestone. Please help spread the word and thank you for your support! // Connect with me on Patreon | Twitter | Mutations on Discord | Mutations Facebook Group //
01:04:03
August 28, 2020
14. Mutations, Temps, Pandemic
Livestreamed episode of Mutations Salon podcast on August 4, 2020. Riffing notes on my book writing process (Fragments of an Integral Futurism), review of literature (Byung-Chul Han’s The Scent of Time, Andreas Malm’s The Progress of this Storm, and James C. Scott’s Against the Grain particularly), integral temporics, climate and “temps” (as Walter Benjamin commented on), and regenerative futures. Thanks to all who participated in Q&A! Homepage // EPO (Ever-Present Origin) on Kindle // Seeing Through the World // Join the Patreon Community // Twitter
01:26:11
August 4, 2020
13. Michael Brooks Tribute - Towards an Integral Cosmopolitan Future [Crosspost]
[Crossposted from Growing Down podcast] Jeremy Johnson is joined by Ryan Nakade, Brent Cooper, Matthew T. Segall, Brad Kershner and Layman Pascal to honor the memory Michael Brooks (1983-2020) and discuss his contributions to integrative thinking in politics, "cosmopolitan socialism," and where we go from here in solidarity. Recorded on 7/25/20. Watch the YouTube livestream of this talk. The struggle continues. #LeftisBest. #RestinPower.   Show notes: Follow and support TMBS / TMBS Patreon / Against the Web by Michael Brooks / Jacobin's Michael Brooks Tribute / Featured Intro/Outro & Track "Nobita" by Smith the Mister. |  Mutations Notes: Support my work via the Mutations Patreon, and access to a great community, bi-weekly salon calls, Discord, research Q&A, and sneak peaks at book drafts. 
02:05:27
August 3, 2020
#12. Entangled Myths for Planetary Flourishing ft. Gordon White
In this episode, I am joined by Gordon White, host of Rune Soup podcast, a show about magic, culture and the paranormal. Gordon is the author of The Chaos Protocols, Star.Ships, and Pieces of Eight: Chaos Magic Essays and Enchantment. Note that I recorded this before the new year, in December 2019, but if you listen until the end you might notice some oddly prescient comments about health and wellbeing in 2020. I begin my discussion with Gordon exploring the rise of communities of magical practice during a time of planetary crisis, and naturally, we roll into a discussion on imagination and storytelling. What are the kinds of stories - the planetary myths -  we need to be tuning into right now, in the epoch of the Anthropocene/Chthulucene? Gordon talks about how to be “a pacifist in a living universe,” living artistically through a “non-tyrannical way of being in the world.” Authors like Ursula K. Le Guin and her Taoist-anarchic heroes (Georg Orr as depicted in The Lathe of Heaven, or Ged in A Wizard of Earthsea), or J.R.R. Tolkien’s Sam and Frodo in The Lord of the Rings, can teach us something about living this way. Gordon was a delight to speak to - and there’s much more in the conversation.  More show notes: Visit Rune Soup and check out Gordon’s community, where he hosts subscriber events, book clubs, and classes Get Gordon’s books Talking Creation, Faerie, and Facing 2020 with Dr Becca Tarnas (Rune Soup ep.) A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell Podcast music by Infinite Third, used with permission (thanks Billy) Join the Mutations Patreon community for access to early podcasts, Discord server, and book club. Next month we start our Phenomenon of Man by Teilhard de Chardin reading club. Join the Mutations Discord server (link may expire)
01:08:02
May 25, 2020
#11. The Meta-Crisis and Transitioning to a “Steady State” Civilization - Q&A [Friday Solo Show]
Mutations truly go on! As we wade further into the murky complexities of the meta-crisis, I bring you an update from COVID-19 quarantine. This is a recording from 4/2/20. Part riff, part Q&A discussion with viewers as we explore how to navigate the “meta-crisis,” including helpful ways of looking the current world state and navigating to (latent), more beautiful futures. Themes of liminality, metaxis (“betweenness”), and integral ontology come into the picture right now, as we collectively attempt to find our way to a new mode of sensemaking and culture building that is more akin to Teilhard de Chardin’s planetization, or Jean Gebser’s integral aperspectivity. Do tune in. This one definitely felt like climbing on a pulpit.  PS: There’s now a backlog of interviews, some recorded before the COVID-19 epidemic--from another era! But they are coming. Thanks, listener, for your gracious patience. "Corona and the Commons" by Michel Bauwens of the P2P Foundation "Notes on Metamodernism,” by Timotheus Vermeulen & Robin van den Akker Mutual Aid (Kropotkin) and planetary consciousness Join My Patreon for more discussions like this one, access to my private Discord server, and sneak peeks at upcoming writing projects and interviews
01:15:17
April 3, 2020
10. Talking Owen Barfield and the Evolution of Christianity with Mark Vernon
An episode for the Epiphany. I spoke with author, philosopher, and psychotherapist Mark Vernon about his 2019 book: A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling, and the Evolution of Consciousness. You may have already listened on Mark's YouTube channel. Great, but also be sure to tune in below for a new introduction. Mark has a PhD in ancient philosophy, with two other degrees in physics and theology. What brought us together was a mutual interest in the evolution of consciousness; Mark, by way of the Oxford Inkling Owen Barfield, and myself by way of the Swiss cultural philosopher and poet Jean Gebser. Mark read my book and I read his. We agreed that we simply needed to have a chat. To my knowledge, Gebser and Barfield never actually talked with one another in life, even though their ideas find many significant convergences; the theme of participation, for instance, plays a prominent role in both of their works. Mark's A Secret History of Christianity is also a history of religion, which is to say the history of consciousness. His documentation of pivotal transformations in the evolution of religion were highly illustrative. (For a direct reading of Barfield I recommend starting with Saving the Appearances: A Study in Idolatry). I mentioned earlier this year in the episode with Dr Becca Tarnas that J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth cosmology also has interesting synergy some of Gebser's ideas, particularly how the consciousness structures unfold (a series of gains and losses as we move further "away" from spiritual origin in time and becoming). We need a general "The Inklings and the Evolution of Consciousness ft. J. Gebser Remix" episode. Roundtable scholarly nerd-out imminent. Mark, Becca, and I are talking about making it happen. Stay tuned. MUSIC: Artist: Billy Mays III / Infinite Third. Album: Channel(s) Tracks: "Vision(s)" for intro/outro, "In(to)" for intermezzo PATREON: Join the Mutations Patreon community here for access to our Discord channel, Zoom salon calls, early podcasts and featured writing content. ARTWORK: Featured art by Archan Nair. Sponsorships: off for this episode
01:26:06
January 6, 2020
9. The Way of the Living Ghost with John Anderson, Brandt Stickley [Kitchen Sessions]
Greetings, mutants! During the Texts and Traditions colloquium in Seattle, WA, I stole away with John Anderson (author) and Brandt Stickley (foreword) to talk about The Way of the Living Ghost.  About the book: "This enigmatic work by Dr Anderson combs through the Daodejing, line by line, in new translation giving robust commentary to the dark side of the Dao." It’s something like a book written by a hungry ghost, about how we, the living, are already hungry ghosts too.  Forgive the sound quality... The microphone, alas, did not pick us up too well without some post-production audio boosting. Then there was the fridge turning on, midway. Hence, the kitchen sessions. Appropriate for hungry ghosts. If you can mind the sound, tune in with earphones and listen to what both John and Brandt have to say. It’s worth it! More Revelore recordings are on the way. Plus, these two fellows are contributors to the forthcoming anthology Mutations: Art, Consciousness and the Anthropocene. Grab the way of the Living Ghost on Amazon, or Revelore Press. It is also available in deluxe edition (check my instagram in a few weeks for snazzy pictures). 
26:11
September 26, 2019
#8 Building a Case for an "Integral Futurism" [Solo Show]
In this solo episode, Jeremy briefly reflects on his research for the upcoming publication, Fragments of an Integral Futurism (2019), and what that might mean for creating an integral culture. SHOW NOTES:  David Graeber, "How to Change the Course of Human History" Thomas Moore, Utopia, Verso Books Edition with essays by China Mieville and Ursula K Le Guin PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson
26:34
August 26, 2019
#7 Hyperilluminated Dark Ages with Michael Garfield
In episode 7 of Mutations podcast, I am joined by paleontologist-futurist Michael Garfield.  Michael is an artist, podcast host (Future Fossils), musician, painter, philosopher--am I missing anything? Like me, Michael wears many hats. We recorded a back-to-back episode. This is part one. You can find part two on Future Fossils.  Michael and I offer philosophical and existential reflections on the “Deep Adaptation” movement, popularized by Jem Bendell’s recent climate report paper, and Daniel Thorson’s Emerge podcast interview, by considering what we can learn from evolutionary and cultural catastrophes throughout history. While we don’t arrive at easy answers, I sense that there is a way of thinking and relating that is emerging in the age of the Anthropocene, as Sean Kelly writes, “beyond hope and despair.” This way of thinking and being leaves open the possibility of a hyper-illuminated dark age... as a way of seeing, like the owl-eyed Athena, into the dark places. LINKS: Michael Garfield on Twitter Santa Fe Institute Michael’s Homepage The Lindisfarne Tapes Sean Kelly, Living in End Times: Beyond Hope and Despair (Revelore Press) MUSIC:  Artist: Billy Mays III / Infinite Third.  Album: Channel(s) Tracks: "Vision(s)" for intro/outro, "In(to)" for intermezzo PATREON:  Join the Mutations Patreon community here for access to our Discord channel, Zoom salon calls, early podcasts and featured writing content. ARTWORK: Featured art by Archan Nair.
01:09:19
August 9, 2019
[Bonus] The Bison at the End of History - A Reading from William Gibson
A reading from the chapter, "Dead Man Sings," from William Gibson's essay anthology, Distrust that Particular Flavor. EPISODE CREDITS Featured artwork by Archan Nair Featured music by Lightbath Intro, “Guardian Suite” Outro, "The Magic Light of Tomorrow" Lightbath offers bonuses like patch notes, album downloads, livestreams, and one-on-one lessons at patreon.com/lightbath. Subscribe to Lightbath on YouTube for brilliant live performances and check out his Bandcamp page for more tracks. CONNECT WITH MUTATIONS LISTENERS ON PATREON: Join my Patreon. Become a “Mutant” and gain access to the community forum (hosted on a private Discourse page), unpublished writings, participation in the MUTATIONS book club, and our regular, Sunday MUTATIONS salon hosted weekly on Zoom Meetings.
05:27
June 19, 2019
#06 Solo Show: Sauron's Mythopoeic Eye and Perspectivalism
The inaugural solo show is finally live! I recorded this not long after my talk with Dr Becca Tarnas (episode 4). Glad it’s finally out there.CONSTELLATING “FIGURATIONS” OF MEANING Illustration by J.R.R. Tolkien In this episode, I’m linking Gebser’s insights on the phenomenology of awakening consciousness (Bewusstwerdung phänomenologie) to some of the existential problems of the hyper-mediated self, and how this all ties to the important mythopoeic image in J.R.R.’Tolkien’s Middle-Earth: Sauron’s eye. Facebook and social media seems only to rev up the cultural fragmentation of communities into smaller and smaller siloed identitarian groups in a “post-truth world” (which, alone, is worth discussing in another solo show). In the age of networks, why is it that communication is breaking down? As I argue, and as Gebser points out, or Douglas Rushkoff has been articulating in his recent Team Human book (and elsewhere, such as Life, Inc), much of this has to do with the underlying structure of consciousness we’ve been leaning on since the Western Renaissance: perspectival consciousness and its potent but immoderate capacity of ratio, to divide. Extractive capitalism, deficient mental-perspectivalism’s spatialized “eye,” and the mythopoeic image of Sauron’s eye all offer us different ways of looking (pun intended) at the phenomenology and crisis of culture (kulturphilosophie) in our own mediated moment. Illustration by J.R.R. Tolkien
32:00
February 28, 2019
#04 Dr Becca Segall Tarnas - Recovering the Imaginal with J.R.R. Tolkien and C.G. Jung
Becca is a scholar, artist, counseling astrologer, and editor of Archai: The Journal of Archetypal Cosmology. Her dissertation, which is the subject of our podcast this episode, is titled “The Back of Beyond: The Red Books of C.G. Jung and J.R.R. Tolkien.”
01:08:16
February 14, 2019
#03 J.F. Martel on Thinking Virtual with Deleuze and Past Presence with Bergson
Mutations interviews J.F. Martel, author, filmmaker, philosopher and Weird Studies podcast co-host. Together we discuss technology, mediation, Deleuze and the virtual (and virtual reality), puppets, and much more.
01:19:49
January 17, 2019
#02 Matthew T. Segall of CIIS on Consciousness, Cultural Evolution and Cosmic Celebration
Matt T. Segall, PhD is a longtime friend, philosopher, and professor over at the California Institute of Integral Studies, where he teaches in the Philosophy, Cosmology and Consciousness graduate program online. Together we discuss the evolution of consciousness through New Media, the "intellectual dark web," planetization through the Anthropocene, pansychism and a celebratory cosmology.
01:25:46
August 31, 2018
MUTATIONS - Episode 1: Le Guin, Fragments of Utopias, Deleuzian Flows, Teilhard
Cultural ecologies and the evolution of consciousness; Deleuze and DeLanda's geographical flows and Teilhardian super-organisms; political fragmentation in the Left and the Right and the push beyond cultural romanticism.
01:09:34
May 9, 2018