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Season 2- Episode 5 with Tom Sherrington @teacherhead on Rosenshine's Principles in action.

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By Phil Naylor
Podcast where my guests and I muse over the latest developments in teaching and learning . We look at research and evidence based teaching.

Guests discuss their favourite pieces of research and how they use them in their classroom.

We also look at CPD and guest discuss recent books they have read or written!

Any views expressed by me are mine and not necessarily those of my employers!




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Season 2 Episode 8 - with Ruth Walker
This week: Lead Practitioner, writer and rED presenter Ruth Walker  In this interview ahead of rED Rugby on Saturday 15th June, Ruth and I discuss the work of Professor Michael Young and the concept of  'Powerful Knowledge'. We also discuss curriculum development, Physics,Cognitive Science and implementation. About Ruth: Teaching Physics – Writing my own textbooks – War on the soft bigotry of low expectations – Team #cogscisci @Rosalindphys
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June 11, 2019
Season 2 Episode 7 with Oli Cav
In the week of the release of 'Dual coding for teachers' , we discuss the work of Paivio and Clark, Sweller and others. We talk about the recent popularity of cognitive science and how it has shone a light on dual coding . We natter about cog sci and graphic principles and how to ensure research can cater for both the busy teacher and the research hungry colleagues out there! We discuss how oliver has worked with 35 teachers, teacher developers, psychologists and information designers to share their dual coding practice. we also look at his collaborations with The Learning Scientists, Tom Sherrington and Stephen Tierney. A great episode (if I do say so myself) so like subscribe and share.  Thank you for listening About Oli Cav I used to be a headteacher of a special school, wrote several books on visual teaching strategies and was a trainer in schools and colleges for nearly a decade. After an inspired visit to the 2008 Berlin VizThink conference, I invented the HOW2s — visual step-by-step guides to teaching techniques. Now, I design and illustrate books, produce poster summaries of educational ideas, create visual branding, visualise CPD packages, and make the occasional presentation in the UK and Europe. oliver@olicav.com  |  @olicav The book:Dual coding with teachers  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dual-Coding-Teachers-Oliver-Caviglioli/dp/1912906252/ref=sr_1_1?crid=13PZRI630IG2W&keywords=dual+coding+for+teachers&qid=1559666319&s=gateway&sprefix=dual+coding%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-1 Research discussed https://www.csuchico.edu/~nschwartz/Clark%20&%20Paivio.pdf
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June 4, 2019
Season 2 Episode 6 with Mark Enser
In this weeks Natter I speak to Head of Geography, Research Lead and author Mark Enser. We discuss the following research paper and its application in schools: Retrieval-Based Learning: A Perspective for Enhancing Meaningful Learning http://memory.psych.purdue.edu/downloads/2012_Karpicke_Grimaldi_EDPR.pdf Jeffrey D. Karpicke & Phillip J. Grimaldi Abstract: Learning is often identified with the acquisition, encoding, or construction of new knowledge, while retrieval is often considered only a means of assessing knowledge, not a process that contributes to learning. Here, we make the case that retrieval is the key process for understanding and for promoting learning. We provide an overview of recent research showing that active retrieval enhances learning, and we highlight ways researchers have sought to extend research on active retrieval to meaningful learning—the learning of complex educational materials as assessed on measures of inference making and knowledge application. However, many students lack metacognitive awareness of the benefits of practicing active retrieval. We describe two approaches to addressing this problem: class- room quizzing and a computer-based learning program that guides students to practice retrieval. Retrieval processes must be considered in any analysis of learning, and incorpo- rating retrieval into educational activities represents a powerful way to enhance learning As usual we discuss  Why this is an important paper and hw its findings can inform teachers practice in their classrooms About Mark: I have been teaching for 14 years in a range of schools. I started in an inner city all girls school in Southampton before moving to an all boys CofE school in Worthing; this was less of a culture shock than I was expecting. I am currently a head of department at a wonderful 11-18 mixed comprehensive in rural Sussex. When I am not teaching or planning I am probably out walking or running in the hills. I regularly contribute articles to TES and you can find my author’s page here. My first book – Making Every Geography Lesson Countis out now and I am currently writing my second, Teach Like Nobody’s Watching. Mark's books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Every-Geography-Lesson-Count/dp/1785833391/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=mark+enser&qid=1559065742&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Like-Nobodys-Watching-essential/dp/1785833995/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=mark+enser&qid=1559065742&s=gateway&sr=8-2 Coming soon: Ruth Walker https://twitter.com/Rosalindphys Oliver Caviglioli https://twitter.com/olicav Jonathan Haslam https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Haslam and Professor Michael Young 
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May 29, 2019
Season 2 Episode 6 with Mark Enser
In this weeks Naylor's Natter I speak to Head of Geography, Research Lead and author Mark Enser. We discuss the following research paper and its application in schools: Retrieval-Based Learning: A Perspective for Enhancing Meaningful Learning http://memory.psych.purdue.edu/downloads/2012_Karpicke_Grimaldi_EDPR.pdf Jeffrey D. Karpicke & Phillip J. Grimaldi Abstract:  Learning is often identified with the acquisition, encoding, or construction of new knowledge, while retrieval is often considered only a means of assessing knowledge, not a process that contributes to learning. Here, we make the case that retrieval is the key process for understanding and for promoting learning. We provide an overview of recent research showing that active retrieval enhances learning, and we highlight ways researchers have sought to extend research on active retrieval to meaningful learning—the learning of complex educational materials as assessed on measures of inference making and knowledge application. However, many students lack metacognitive awareness of the benefits of practicing active retrieval. We describe two approaches to addressing this problem: class- room quizzing and a computer-based learning program that guides students to practice retrieval. Retrieval processes must be considered in any analysis of learning, and incorpo- rating retrieval into educational activities represents a powerful way to enhance learning As usual we discuss  Why this is an important paper and hw its findings can inform teachers practice in their classrooms About Mark: I have been teaching for 14 years in a range of schools. I started in an inner city all girls school in Southampton before moving to an all boys CofE school in Worthing; this was less of a culture shock than I was expecting. I am currently a head of department at a wonderful 11-18 mixed comprehensive in rural Sussex. When I am not teaching or planning I am probably out walking or running in the hills. I regularly contribute articles to TES and you can find my author’s page here. My first book – Making Every Geography Lesson Count is out now and I am currently writing my second, Teach Like Nobody’s Watching. Mark's books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Every-Geography-Lesson-Count/dp/1785833391/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=mark+enser&qid=1559065742&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Like-Nobodys-Watching-essential/dp/1785833995/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=mark+enser&qid=1559065742&s=gateway&sr=8-2 Coming soon: Ruth Walker  https://twitter.com/Rosalindphys Oliver Caviglioli https://twitter.com/olicav Jonathan Haslam https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Haslam and Professor Michael Young 
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May 28, 2019
Season 2- Episode 5 with Tom Sherrington @teacherhead on Rosenshine's Principles in action.
In this podcast Tom and I discuss Barak Rosenshine's Principles of instruction and his new book: Rosenshine's principles in action https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosenshines-Principles-Action-Tom-Sherrington/dp/1912906201/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2N3XDPVU0G9RL&keywords=tom+sherrington&qid=1558382763&s=gateway&sprefix=tom+sherring%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-1 In this book and podcast Tom amplifies and augments the principles and further demonstrates how they can be put into practice in everyday classrooms.The second half of the book contains Rosenshine's original paper 'Principles of instruction' as published in 2010 by the IAE. We discuss: 1) So why are Barak Rosenshine’s ‘principles of instruction’ so good? 2) The reason I started this podcast is to make research accessible for teachers through sharing the experiences of teachers engagement. To what extent does Rosenshine bridge the research-practice divide? Taking the ideas of the page and into action  3) How well do you feel that principles of instruction are supported by the learning models from cognitive science? 4) What role does a knowledge rich curriculum play in the implementation of Rosenshine’s principles? 5) Strand 1 looks at sequencing concepts and modelling. What relevant instructional procedures could teachers use here? 6) What repertoire of questioning strategies have you found useful for teachers? (Maybe some discussion of link to TLAC and Lemov) 7) How can teachers go about making daily, weekly and monthly review part of an effective and sustainable routine? 8) In conclusion, I know of many schools that have bought the book for all staff , how can schools use your book to support the process of professional development? Coming soon-Tom Curriculum thinking-Three masterclasses with John Tomsett and Mary Myatt https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/curriculum-thinking-three-masterclasses-manchester-tickets-58434928444?aff=ebdssbdestsearch Coming soon: Phil  EEF behaviour guidance report in Lancashire https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/improving-behaviour-in-schools-east-lancashire-teaching-school-alliance-tickets-61793630412?aff=ebdssbdestsearch rED Rugby- Escaping the Hamster Wheel- using research and CPD to change culture in schools  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/researched-rugby-2019-tickets-58503529632
37:44
May 20, 2019
Season 2 Episode 4 - Professor Daniel Muijs
In this episode Simon Cox and I talk to Professor Muijs about the new Education Inspection Framework 2019 . We ask him about his development of the research commentary underpinning the new framework and what research is important for teachers. We discuss the importance of CPD and the role of grassroots research movements like rED. Education inspection framework 2019 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/education-inspection-framework Research Commentary  https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/education-inspection-framework-overview-of-research EEF behaviour launch- ELTSA https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/improving-behaviour-in-schools-east-lancashire-teaching-school-alliance-tickets-61793630412?aff=ebdssbdestsearch rED Rugby https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/researched-rugby-2019-tickets-58503529632
33:03
May 16, 2019
Season 2 Episode 4 with Louise Lewis
In this episode, I ask Louise about her fantastic blog 'Research Leads-what's all the fuss about?' . We talk evidence, research and becoming critical consumers.  Louise is: Research Lead, biologist, AHoD, MCCT, AQA examiner and avid tea enthusiast.  Louise blog: https://missunderstandingeducation.school.blog Next week- Professor Daniel Muijs 
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May 9, 2019
Season 2 Episode 3A- Pritesh Raichura
Pritesh discussed this on the podcast: Link to paper: http://www.cogtech.usc.edu/publications/kirschner_Sweller_Clark.pdf Link to blog: https://bunsenblue.wordpress.com Twitter: @Mr_Raichura Michaela Community School Science Teacher: https://mcsbrent.co.uk/science-teacher/ Arrange a visit: https://mcsbrent.co.uk/visit-us/ Coming up: Speaking on metacognition  https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/evidence-informed-teaching/ Speaking on effective professional development  https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/teaching-professional-development/ Using digital technologies -EEF guidance report  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/using-digital-technology-to-improve-learning-tickets-59518422203?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
29:10
May 3, 2019
Season 2 Episode 3- Pritesh Raichura
Pritesh discussed this on the podcast: Link to paper: http://www.cogtech.usc.edu/publications/kirschner_Sweller_Clark.pdf Link to blog: https://bunsenblue.wordpress.com Twitter: @Mr_Raichura Michaela Community School Science Teacher: https://mcsbrent.co.uk/science-teacher/ Arrange a visit: https://mcsbrent.co.uk/visit-us/ Coming up: Speaking on metacognition  https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/evidence-informed-teaching/ Speaking on effective professional development  https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/teaching-professional-development/ Using digital technologies -EEF guidance report  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/using-digital-technology-to-improve-learning-tickets-59518422203?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
29:10
May 3, 2019
Season 2 Episode 2- Liam Webb
Season 2 of this fast-growing podcast where I discuss with teachers their use of academic research in their lessons.  Liam discusses  his use of Research including this paper: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1937-8327.1993.tb00572.x From Whole‐Part‐Whole Learning Model Richard A. Swanson  Bryan D. Law Liam also talks about his online presence and PE resource sharing via: https://twitter.com/MrWebb_PE and his work on webinars via https://twitter.com/ShareLearnT I also discuss: Inside Gov conference 9/5/19 London- speaking on behalf of Blackpool Research School https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/evidence-informed-teaching/ Inside Gov conference 14/5/19 Manchester- speaking on behalf of TDT https://www.insidegovernment.co.uk/teaching-professional-development/ ResearchED Rugby - 'Escaping the hamster wheel of accountability-using research to change culture in schools'  15/6/19 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/researched-rugby-2019-tickets-58503529632?aff=ebdshpsearchautocomplete More about me: twitter https://twitter.com/pna1977 facebook https://www.facebook.com/naylorsnatter Linkedin  www.linkedin.com/in/phil-naylor-069609174
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April 25, 2019
Season 2 Episode 1 with Amy Forrester
Amy on twitter https://twitter.com/amymayforrester Amy's blog https://defyingstarsteaching.wordpress.com rED Rugby  https://researched.org.uk/event/researched-rugby-2019/ rED Blackpool takeaways http://www.mrbartonmaths.com/blog/conference-takeaways-researched-blackpool-2019/ My latest article: https://www.teachertoolkit.co.uk/2019/04/09/early-career-framework/
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April 11, 2019
Episode 6- Bethan Hindley
In the episode, Bethan and I discuss her use of evidence and research in her teaching career . We discuss her new role with TDT and how listening to podcasts provided her with access to some research and evidence . Audio warning-its loud! My bad....... Here is a link  to the podcasts discussed  https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mr-barton-maths-podcast/id1067435342?mt=2 TDT website  https://tdtrust.org
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March 8, 2019
Episode 5 with Ben Gordon
Links to: Principles of Instruction paper - http://www.ibe.unesco.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Publications/Educational_Practices/EdPractices_21.pdf Principles of Instruction summary from American Federation of Teachers - https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/periodicals/Rosenshine.pdf Tom Sherrington's "Rosenshine Re-ordered" blog - https://teacherhead.com/2018/10/19/rosenshine-re-ordered-a-poster-by-olicav/ My fiive Meanings of direct instruction poster in collaboration with Oli Caviglioli - https://www.olicav.com/nacht/ My blog: www.teachinnovatereflectblog.wordpress.com Alphabetical Signposts to Teacher Excellence blog: https://teachinnovatereflectblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/alphabetical-signposts-to-teacher-excellence-contents-page/
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February 25, 2019
Episode 4- Jess Walmsley
Episode 4 discussing  "Why minimal guidance during instruction does not work" ttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1207/s15326985ep4102 with  https://twitter.com/mrsjw93
17:24
February 8, 2019
Bumper Episode 3- Dr Gary Jones
In this episode Dr Gary Jones natters with me about this article in the TES https://england.magazine.tes.com/editions/edition_edition_edition_5332.england/data/387761/index.html in which I propose a version of Disciplined Inquiry as part of teachers appraisal. Gary references the following articles: 1)Judgment and the Preparation of Educational Leaders Daniel L. Duke1 2)The Challenges of Practitioner Research: A Comparative Study of Singapore and NSW Neville Ellis UNSW, neville.ellis@unsw.edu.au Tony Loughland UNSW, tony.loughland@unsw.edu.au 3) https://www.ero.govt.nz/publications/teaching-as-inquiry-responding-to-learners/findings/ Gary's blog  http://evidencebasededucationalleadership.blogspot.com Gary on twitter  https://twitter.com/DrGaryJones?lang=en-gb Gary book  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evidence-based-School-Leadership-Management-practical/dp/1526411687/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1548799116&sr=1-1&keywords=gary+Jones I have drawn on these blogs in the formation of my TES article and this podcast Disciplined inquiry  Huntington Research School https://researchschool.org.uk/huntington/blog/developing-disciplined-inquiry John Tomsett https://johntomsett.com/2017/06/17/3511/ Durrington Research School  https://researchschool.org.uk/durrington/blog/developing-a-disciplined-inquiry-approach
53:38
January 29, 2019
Episode 2- Interview with TDT's John Collier
In this episode, I am talking to John about his work with his teaching school, his work with the Teacher Development Trust and his use of research and evidence . We also discuss his forthcoming presentation at rED Blackpool. Here is a link to the guidance report discussed:  https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/tools/guidance-reports/making-best-use-of-teaching-assistants John on twitter: https://twitter.com/FriendsUnitedUK Teacher Development Trust  https://tdtrust.org Me on twitter  https://twitter.com/pna1977
22:03
January 24, 2019
Episode 1 -Interview with Blackpool Research School Director Simon Cox
The first 'proper' episode in which I ask Simon about the impact research and evidence have had on him as both a teacher and the Director of Blackpool Research School . We also talk about the upcoming ResearchED event in Blackpool and Simon's role in pulling that together.
23:23
January 17, 2019
Taster episode 2- formulating interview questions
In this second taster, I will be looking at the questions I have drafted to ask our teachers . They focus primarily on the effect research has had on their practice, their professional development and their pupils. I am also inviting suggestions for unique questions to make Naylor's natter distinctive so please do share thoughts @pna1977  Interviews next week .....promise!
07:34
January 11, 2019
Naylor's natter-what's coming up in episode 1
A new podcast where teachers are asked about the influence research and evidence has had on their practice. Leaders in schools also discuss the importance of professional learning and how they provide high quality environments for their teachers and pupils. In this taster episode, I outline future guests which include presenters at the upcoming Blackpool ResearchEd conference. Next week I will be interviewing the organiser of the above conference, have a listen!
02:42
January 4, 2019
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