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Nevin & Fred

By Nevin Adams

Irreverent, but relevant. Nevin Adams and Fred Reish offer listeners their perspectives on all things retirement.
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“May” Way? The New DOL ESG Regulation

Nevin & FredDec 06, 2022

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Season 4, Episode 5: Live from Music City

Season 4, Episode 5: Live from Music City

On April 7, 2024, Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) took their popular podcasting platform on the road to Nashville, Tennessee, for a live version at the NAPA 401(k) Summit—in the middle of a solar eclipse!

During an expanded session, the prolific podcasting pair pointed to some takeaways from recent litigation trends including:

Why it’s important to know/read your plan document (forfeiture reallocation suits); Why you may not need an investment policy statement (but should have an investment policy and an engaged committee);   How participant demographics could (should?) influence your target-date fund selection.


May 01, 202430:50
Season 4, Episode 4: Could a Predominant PEPs Prediction Prove Positive?

Season 4, Episode 4: Could a Predominant PEPs Prediction Prove Positive?

In a recent article on NAPA-Net, Fred Reish opined that PEPs—pooled employer plans—would come to dominate new plan adoption in the next five to 10 years. In this episode, Nevin (Adams) and Fred explore that possibility.

To make his case, Fred posed a counter-intuitive argument, supposing that if we had started with a PEP architecture—one in which most of the liability (and decisions and administrative work) was left to others—and holding forth an opinion that if we HAD started there, would plan sponsors have ever wanted to take on that “extra” work and liability. 

Well, regardless of what you think about that premise, the reality is that we didn’t, and that might well change the outcome—or will it? In this episode Nevin & Fred will talk about PEPs’ prospects, the possibilities, the potential problems, and more.

Apr 02, 202429:33
Season 4, Episode 3: More Proof Prudence Prevails in 401(k) Litigation

Season 4, Episode 3: More Proof Prudence Prevails in 401(k) Litigation

Some recent suits – and federal court rulings – provide some timely reminders about the importance of a prudent process and following the plan document. 

In this podcast episode, Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) discuss the background, issues, and implications behind:

(1) Suits regarding reallocation of forfeitures  - offsetting employer contributions: 401(k) Forfeiture Fiduciary Breach Suit Now Targets Tetra Tech | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(2) The importance of following the plan document:  DOL Successfully Sues Employer for Misuse of Forfeitures | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(3) Fiduciary defendants prevail in two separate (and very different) cases because they had prudent, documented rocesses in place: Prudent Process Prevails (Again) in Proprietary Fund Suit | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

Breaking News: flexPATH Prevails in Suit Brought by Schlichter | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(4) Participant suit challenging ESG “bias” of investment manager proxy voting clears motion to dismiss American Airlines Pilot’s 401(k) ESG Suit Clears Motion to Dismiss | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

UPDATE:  American Airlines Moves (Quickly) for Summary Judgment in ESG 401(k) Suit | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

 

Some recent suits – and federal court rulings – provide some timely reminders about the importance of a prudent process and following the plan document. 

In this podcast episode, Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) discuss the background, issues, and implications behind:

(1) Suits regarding reallocation of forfeitures  - offsetting employer contributions:

401(k) Forfeiture Fiduciary Breach Suit Now Targets Tetra Tech | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(2) The importance of following the plan document: 

DOL Successfully Sues Employer for Misuse of Forfeitures | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(3) Fiduciary defendants prevail in two separate (and very different) cases because they had prudent, documented processes in place>

Prudent Process Prevails (Again) in Proprietary Fund Suit | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

Breaking News: flexPATH Prevails in Suit Brought by Schlichter | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

(4) Participant suit challenging ESG “bias” of investment manager proxy voting clears motion to dismiss

American Airlines Pilot’s 401(k) ESG Suit Clears Motion to Dismiss | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

UPDATE:  American Airlines Moves (Quickly) for Summary Judgment in ESG 401(k) Suit | National Association of Plan Advisors (napa-net.org)

 

Mar 05, 202432:44
Season 4, Episode 2: Glidepaths and “Guide” Paths

Season 4, Episode 2: Glidepaths and “Guide” Paths

Another of the BlackRock TDF suits comes to a conclusion, the WSJ takes a peek at managed accounts—and Nevin and Fred ponder the implications for glidepaths.

To date only one of the dozen or so suits filed against plans that had BlackRock’s LifePath TDFS have gotten past the motion to dismiss—suits that charged plan fiduciaries with “chasing low fees” and being inattentive to poor performance. 

In this episode, Nevin & Fred discuss those outcomes, the issue of TDF glidepaths generally, and the possibilities—and complexities—with a managed account solution, and what they should include to be more than “just an expensive target-date fund.”

Feb 02, 202424:40
Season 4, Episode 1: Forfeit “Sures?”
Jan 09, 202429:59
Season 3, Episode 15: A New Fiduciary Proposal

Season 3, Episode 15: A New Fiduciary Proposal

Nov 26, 202324:55
Season 3, Episode 14: Nevin & Fred Focus on ERISA 403(b)s – Litigation
Nov 21, 202314:07
Season 3, Episode 13: Focus on ERISA 403(b)

Season 3, Episode 13: Focus on ERISA 403(b)

At the 2023 NAPA/NTSA ERISA 403(b) conference, Nevin & Fred took the podcast LIVE to focus on the differences in SECURE 2.0 for 403(b) and 401(k) plans – with a special guest. 

Nov 02, 202340:08
Season 3, Episode 12: DOL Makes Another Fiduciary Foray

Season 3, Episode 12: DOL Makes Another Fiduciary Foray

Late one recent Friday afternoon, the Department of Labor dropped off a package that would redefine fiduciary investment advice under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA).  In this episode Nevin (Adams) and Fred (Reish) explore the possibilities – the history and potential future – of this initiative.

Known officially as “Conflict of Interest in Investment Advice,” according to a post on the Office of Management and Budget’s website, “this rulemaking would amend the regulatory definition of the term fiduciary...to more appropriately define when persons who render investment advice for a fee to employee benefit plans and IRAs are fiduciaries within the meaning of section 3(21) of ERISA and section 4975(e)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code."

As part of that, it purports to consider advisor practices, plan sponsor and participant expectations, and IRA owners who receive investment advice. It would also consider “developments in the investment marketplace,” including compensation structures that could expose advisors to conflicts of interest – and evaluate available prohibited transaction class exemptions and propose amendments or new exemptions.

Attempts to update the regulation – given foundation by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (a.k.a. ERISA) and structure by regulations issued in 1975 (from which the 5-part test came) – are not new.  No fewer than four attempts to do so have been made in the past decade across three Administrations.

In this episode, Nevin & Fred look at those developments – both where we’ve been (and why), what’s changed (and hasn’t), and what the future for this latest iteration and its potential import might be. 

Episode Resources:

Breaking News: New Fiduciary Rule Sent to OMB by Department of Labor  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/breaking-news-new-fiduciary-rule-sent-omb-department-labor

Court Rolls Back Rollover Rule in 401(k) Fiduciary FAQ Fight  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/court-rolls-back-rollover-rule-401k-fiduciary-faq-fight Rollovers, Regular Basis Focus of DOL Guidance  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/rollovers-regular-basis-focus-dol-guidance DOL Confirms Investment Advice PTE  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/dol-confirms-investment-advice-pte DOL Unwraps New Fiduciary Standard as a PTE  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/dol-unwraps-new-fiduciary-standard-pte

Sep 19, 202331:60
Season 3, Episode 11: Hot Topics – Roth Relief, Fiduciary Filings, & Crypto Calls, Oh My!
Sep 13, 202336:32
Season 3, Episode 10: Suits Strike Polarizing Positions on ESG

Season 3, Episode 10: Suits Strike Polarizing Positions on ESG

Amidst a highly politicized environment, retirement plan litigation focused on the inclusion of ESG (environmental, social & governance) factors – or the lack thereof.  Nevin (Adams) and Fred (Reish) examine the issue(s) and implications.

While the Biden Administration’s final rule on ESG investments (more properly “prudence and loyalty in selecting plan investments”) seems to have landed pretty much where the Trump Administration’s final rule on ESG investments did (save for the reliance on the term “pecuniary”), the issue remains polarizing (almost as though people hadn’t actually read the final regulation), triggering a number of suits involving retirement plans – most recently one brought by an American Airlines pilot-participant regarding investment options in that plan’s 401(k). However, American Airlines has moved to dismiss that suit – on interesting grounds.  Come check it out!

Aug 30, 202327:49
Season 3, Episode 9 - Reenrollment: If At First You Don't "Succeed"

Season 3, Episode 9 - Reenrollment: If At First You Don't "Succeed"

There’s an old practice getting some new attention these days – “reenrollment." In this episode, Nevin and Fred take a look at the trend and its implications. 

Let’s face it, just because circumstances weren’t right for joining the plan a year ago doesn’t mean they should be overlooked forever. Said another way, if at first you don’t “succeed” in enrolling them in the plan, this presents another opportunity to do so. The increase in participation rates proves the success. 

Aug 02, 202327:06
Season 3, Episode 8 - Hot Topics

Season 3, Episode 8 - Hot Topics

It’s been a hot summer here – and there’s been so much going on lately that our brief recap wound up being a podcast episode unto itself.  In this episode Nevin (Adams) and Fred (Reish) discuss: 

  • The jury trial outcome of the Yale University 403(b) excessive fee suit
  • New litigation – and legislation – regarding fiduciary issues with regard to healthcare
  • Latest updates on the BlackRock LifePath TDF suits where fiduciaries were accused of "chasing" low fees.
Jul 17, 202324:41
Season 3, Episode 7 - Managed Account-Ability

Season 3, Episode 7 - Managed Account-Ability

According to Cerulli’s “U.S. Managed Accounts 2022: The Future of Personalized Portfolios,” assets in managed-accounts programs grew nearly 24% in 2021, reaching a high of $10.7 trillion.  In this episode Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) take a look at the trends, the issues, and the considerations underlying managed accounts.  Certainly these structures have proliferated in recent years, doubtless driven in no small part by the development/adoption of these solutions by advisory firms, though many advisors continue to see these as little more than “expensive target-date funds.” 

Jun 06, 202329:26
Season 3, Episode 6 - An "Obstacles" Course in Retirement Income

Season 3, Episode 6 - An "Obstacles" Course in Retirement Income

There’s little argument that retirement income solutions are a need – but no real consensus that providing it is, or should be, a plan sponsor’s responsibility.  Nevin & Fred discuss what's (still) standing in the way... 

May 16, 202339:46
Season 3, Episode 5: Nevin & Fred Live and In Person – Part 2

Season 3, Episode 5: Nevin & Fred Live and In Person – Part 2

On April 3, the Nevin & Fred podcast went on the road to San Diego for a live appearance in front of a standing room only crowd at the NAPA 401(k) Summit. 

Apr 25, 202326:57
Season 3, Episode 4: Nevin & Fred Live and In Person – Part 1
Apr 17, 202326:39
A Changing Recordkeeper Checklist

A Changing Recordkeeper Checklist

There are few things more disruptive to the peace or clarity of a 401(k) plan than a switch in recordkeepers.  But—whether for good or ill—a change in recordkeepers is one of those “choices” that plan fiduciaries are expected under ERISA to evaluate as a prudent expert.  In this episode, Nevin & Fred cover the key factors.

Mar 27, 202324:17
“Plausible” Denials – New Twists & Turns in ERISA Litigation

“Plausible” Denials – New Twists & Turns in ERISA Litigation

Over the past several months –following the United States Supreme Court’s decision in Hughes v. Northwestern University – a number of cases, notably the Oshkosh case—and those of CommonSpirit and TriHealth—have brought with them what appears to be a higher standard of “plausibility” in asserting claims that can get past the standard motion to dismiss.

In this episode Nevin & Fred take a look at the new litigation landscape for ERISA plans, as well as providing updates on a series of suits involving the BlackRock LifePath target-date funds, as well as a surprising decision regarding rollovers and the fiduciary rule – and a flurry of legislation regarding the Labor Department’s Prudence and Loyalty in Selecting Plan Investments and Exercising Shareholder Rights” – a.k.a. the so-called ”ESG rule.”

Oshkosh Lays Down a New Standard
Gosh! Oshkosh Wins Dismissal of Excessive Fee Suit  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/gosh-oshkosh-wins-dismissal-excessive-fee-suit

BlackRock TDFs
Another BlackRock TDF Suit Dismissed https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/another-blackrock-tdf-suit-dismissed

Rollover Rule(s)
Court Rolls Back Rollover Rule in 401(k) Fiduciary FAQ Fight  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/court-rolls-back-rollover-rule-401k-fiduciary-faq-fight

ESG
Excerpts from ARA CEO Brian Graff’s interview with EBSA’s Tim Hauser.  https://www.napa-net.org/search/site/hauser
Participants Challenge ESG Rule in Different Venue  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/participants-challenge-esg-rule-different-venue

Mar 07, 202332:22
Unfinished Business for SECURE 2.0?
Jan 31, 202329:35
Even More SECURE...

Even More SECURE...

In the waning days of 2022, President Biden signed into law legislation that had moved through the House and the Senate on a strong bipartisan basis that greatly expands retirement savings opportunities for working Americans.

In this episode Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) unpack some of the major provisions, and their implications for retirement.

Episode Resources

SECURE 2.0 Resource Page
As a top priority of the American Retirement Association, the SECURE 2.0 Act of 2022 was signed into law by President Biden on Dec. 29, 2022.  The legislation, which was included in Division T of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023 (H.R. 2617), builds on the foundation laid by the 2019 Setting Every Community Up for Retirement Enhancement (SECURE) Act to further improve upon the success of the private employer-based retirement system by making it easier for businesses to offer retirement plans and for individuals to save for retirement.  
https://www.napa-net.org/secure-20

The 10 Highest Impact Provisions of the SECURE 2.0 Act
There are 92 provisions in the new SECURE 2.0 Act—and by at least one assessment, they are “almost universally good, with ‘good’ being defined as ‘helpful to the cause of promoting retirement security.’” Group Plan Systems’ Pete Swisher and Cherisha Chapman rank the Top 10 Impact Provisions—and Top 5 new burdens.  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/10-highest-impact-provisions-secure-20-act

It’s Official: SECURE 2.0 Enacted into Law
Capping off months of anticipation and hard work, the SECURE 2.0 Act of 2022 is now law, thanks to President Biden signing the legislation Dec. 29 after it was flown down to him while on vacation in St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands.  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/it%E2%80%99s-official-secure-20-enacted-law

Jan 03, 202331:16
“May” Way? The New DOL ESG Regulation
Dec 06, 202231:47
 Targeting Target Date Funds?
Oct 24, 202228:52
5 Dangerous Fiduciary Assumptions
Sep 21, 202229:12
PTE 2020-02: What to do When You Didn’t do What You Were Supposed to Do.

PTE 2020-02: What to do When You Didn’t do What You Were Supposed to Do.

With the written best interest documentation requirement now in place (as of July 1), and with some evidence that some advisors might not have focused on that deadline (or a series of others that took effect in February), in this episode Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) look at some new ways to “fix” non-compliance issues.

Episode Resources

Best Interest Standard of Care for Advisors #93: Correction of Failures to Satisfy PTE 2020-02  https://fredreish.com/best-interest-standard-of-care-for-advisors-93/

IRS Pilots Pre-examination Retirement Plan Compliance Program  https://www.asppa-net.org/news/irs-pilots-pre-examination-retirement-plan-compliance-program

Morningstar Urges DOL to Revisit TDF Guidance  https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/morningstar-urges-dol-revisit-tdf-guidance

Jul 26, 202234:12
EARN, RISE & SHINE, Auto-Portability & the Way(s) Forward
Jul 05, 202228:14
New Role(s) With Rollovers

New Role(s) With Rollovers

The Labor Department’s expanded definition of fiduciary advice is described in the preamble to PTE 2020-02. The PTE then provides relief for conflicted non-discretionary recommendations (for example, rollover recommendations), IF its conditions are satisfied.

In this episode Nevin & Fred discuss the new parameters, how they’re applied, the conditions that might (and might not) be sufficient to warrant rolling money out of a qualified plan and into an IRA – and the “new” requirement that the justification as to why that move is in the interests of the plan participant – and be in writing, effective July 1.

Episode Resources

Best Interest Standard of Care for Advisors #92: Consideration of Costs in the Evaluation of Rollovers: https://fredreish.com/best-interest-standard-of-care-for-advisors-92/

Best Interest Standard of Care for Advisors #89: Rollovers and the Information That Is Needed About the Participant: https://fredreish.com/best-interest-standard-of-care-for-advisors-89/

Best Interest Standard of Care for Advisors #84: Compliance with PTE 2020-02: Special Issues: Monitoring: https://fredreish.com/best-interest-standard-of-care-for-advisors-84/

DOL Official Sheds Light on Rollover Recommendations: https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/dol-official-sheds-light-rollover-recommendations

Rollovers, Regular Basis Focus of DOL Guidance: https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/rollovers-regular-basis-focus-dol-guidance

DOL Delays Enforcement of Fiduciary Investment Advice Exemption: https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/daily-news/dol-delays-enforcement-fiduciary-investment-advice-exemption-0

Jun 07, 202229:10
7 Things ERISA Fiduciaries Should Know
May 19, 202238:45
Nevin & Fred: LIVE! Part Two
Apr 19, 202224:51
Nevin & Fred: LIVE! Part One
Apr 12, 202227:13
Alternative Investment Alternatives
Mar 23, 202235:01
SCOTUS Takes on Excessive Fee Suit
Jan 26, 202227:56
2022 Preview: Game Changers or Much Ado About Not Much?
Dec 07, 202137:33
Episode 7 - ESG – What’s Now and What’s Next?
Nov 09, 202124:04
Episode 6 - Five Missteps that Plan Committees Make (and How You Can Avoid Them)
Sep 28, 202132:11
Episode 5 - Limiting Fiduciary Liability
Aug 23, 202133:30
Episode 4: Hacking Your Retirement
Jul 20, 202134:05
Episode 3 - Committeed Relationships
Jun 18, 202129:12
Episode 2 - Scrutinizing SECURE 2.0
May 21, 202131:12
Episode 1 - Unpacking the Fiduciary Rule

Episode 1 - Unpacking the Fiduciary Rule

Join Nevin Adams & Fred Reish for the inaugural episode of "Nevin & Fred: Fresh & Best Perspectives." 

Technically, it’s not a “rule”—but after years of debate, hearings, comments, litigation and preparation, there are some new rules regarding investment advice—and some help for retirement plan advisors. Nevin Adams and Fred Reish take a look at the implications. And have some fun doing it.

Episode Resources:

DOL PTE 2020-02: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-12-18/pdf/2020-27825.pdf
The DOL’s Prohibited Transaction Exemption 2020-02 provide relief from prohibited compensation resulting from nondiscretionary fiduciary advice.  And, in the preamble to the PTE, the DOL explains that it is reinterpreting the regulatory definition of fiduciary advice so that many more recommendations to plans, participants and IRA owners will be fiduciary advice.

FAQs for Fiduciary Advice Exemption: https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ebsa/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/faqs/new-fiduciary-advice-exemption.pdf
The DOL has issued guidance on understanding and interpreting its expansion of the definition of fiduciary advice and on the exemption from prohibited transactions resulting from nondiscretionary fiduciary advice.

DOL guidance to selecting an advisor:  https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ebsa/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/faqs/choosing-the-right-person-to-give-you-investment-advice.pdf
The DOL has issued guidance to help IRA owners and plan participants select advisors to help with rollover decisions and IRA investing.  This publication offers “Questions to Ask an Investment Advice Provider”.

Apr 20, 202128:30