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Sounds Like A Plan

Sounds Like A Plan

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The climate crisis is the most urgent issue facing the planet right now. But can music help save the world? Sounds Like A Plan is the podcast series finding out.

Each episode chats to a name in the music world taking action – and not just those in front of the mic... from festival bosses to artists, record labels to data analysts.

Hosted by journalist Greg Cochrane and musician and activist Fay Milton, from the band Savages and co-founder of Music Declares Emergency.

Series 3 – March to May 2022.
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'Pause' – with musician + activist Fay Milton and journalist Greg Cochrane
Time to reflect, but also look into the future: We've reached the final episode of this series of Sounds Like A Plan. During this season-ending podcast your hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane unpack some of the topics, guests and moments we've shared over the past 10 weeks. We thank all of our guests: from AURORA to Nick Mulvey, Jaspher Ewany to Nicky Hawkins, discussing themes as varied as making a carbon neutral album to offering vegan food at gigs. This episode also takes a look ahead, and plug you into some climate/music action happening in the coming months (more info and links below). Until next time we meet, thank you to all of our fantastic listeners. We hope you've got lots of inspiration from tuning in.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on events including those in Gunnersbury Park, London, this summer. Tickets are available now on Ticketmaster.  Rex Orange County plays his only London show of the summer on August 13th.  https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/rex-orange-county-london-13-08-2022/event/37005C39E7E04F7A Rufus Du Sol, Jon Hopkins, Georgia and some of the best names in electronic music join forces for a show on Saturday 20 August.  https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/rufus-du-sol-london-20-08-2022/event/37005C3A92E44539 — Upcoming notable events in music and climate: Billie Eilish’s OVERHEATED at the O2 https://www.imoverheated.com/ Winner announcement of the Environmental Music Prize https://environmentalmusicprize.com/ Glastonbury Festival – Leftfield line-up https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/line-up/line-up-2022/ Coldplay’s Music Of The Spheres world tour reaches Europe https://sustainability.coldplay.com/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
24:24
June 07, 2022
'Co-exist' – with AURORA, singer, songwriter and activist
AURORA is one the leading voices when it comes to the topic of music, nature and our climate crisis.  Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane met up with the Norwegian singer + songwriter in London to talk about the restorative power of nature, why she thinks activism needs to be reframed as "sexy" and how she's gone from feeling like an outlier discussing climate in music to feeling surrounded by community. AURORA also discusses her hopes for the future, including the role of individuals – "we don't all need to be Greta Thunberg" – and the type of world she would like to be writing songs about in 10 years time.  Before we leave, Fay and Greg will also share with you some recommendations (more info below).  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Electric Picnic, taking place at Stradbally Hall, Ireland, between 2-4 September 2022. Keep an eye on Ticketmaster for returned tickets. https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/search?aid=30690&user_input=electric%20picnic&q=Electric+Picnic&tm_link=tm_header_search — Links to things discussed in the podcast: AURORA – The Gods We Can Touch  https://www.aurora-music.com/ Green Events & Innovations conference  https://www.agreenerfestival.com/green-events-innovations-conference-gei/ 'The Climate Stripes' on the cover of Greta Thuberg's forthcoming book of essays  https://www.reading.ac.uk/news/2022/Research-News/Greta-Thunberg-book-warming-stripes — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Gabrielle Walker: What you need to know about carbon removal  https://www.ted.com/talks/gabrielle_walker_what_you_need_to_know_about_carbon_removal?language=en Greg recommends: TedxLondon's Climate Curious podcast  https://tedxlondon.com/podcast/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
48:45
May 30, 2022
'Space' – with composer Max Richter and visual artist Yulia Mahr
Studio Richter Mahr is a multi-arts space recently opened by world-renowned composer Max Richter and award-winning visual artist Yulia Mahr. What they call their "art factory in the wood".  20 years in the planning, the space is carbon negative and created with sustainability at its heart – initiatives include generating their own clean solar energy to a kitchen garden serving food in the on-site cafe. Max and Yulia speak to hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane about the design of the Oxfordshire studio, how they're opening it to emerging artists and the challenge of creating art that's themed around the climate emergency. As always, we'll also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Reading Festival, taking place at Richfield Avenue, between 26-28 August 2022. Weekend passes are now sold out, but keep an eye on Ticketmaster for any returned tickets which become available. https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/reading-and-leeds-festival — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Studio Richter Mahr official website www.studiorichtermahr.com For photos of the studio, check out our podcast Instagram @soundslikeaplanpodcast — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Heart Wisdom podcast, with Jack Kornfield https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heart-wisdom-with-jack-kornfield/id923017416 Greg recommends: Billie Eilish's OVERHEATED event at The O2, London, June 10 onwards https://www.imoverheated.com/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
42:45
May 22, 2022
'Power' – with Tim Benson, live music energy consultant
Chances are you've probably not given much thought to the power supplying your favourite local venue or festival. It is, however, an area that's absolutely vital when it comes to live music forging a more sustainable future.  This week we're joined by live music energy consultant Tim Benson - Smart Power, ZAP and Powerful Thinking - to hear about where and how venues get their energy, the adoption of technology in live events and how measuring a production's electricity use is key to bringing down its environmental impact. He's also worked on Coldplay's current Music Of The Spheres world tour, and discusses their much-discussed kinetic dance floor and the transformative role sustainable technologies can play in creating culture change if they're incorporated into the audience experience at a concert.  Hosts Fay and Greg also leave you with some recommendations. More detail below.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Leeds Festival, taking place at Bramham Park, Leeds, between 26-28 August 2022. Tickets are available now: https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Tim Benson's work with Smart Power, ZAP and Powerful Thinking  https://www.agreenerfestival.com/speakers-gei13/tim-benson/ Survey report: 'Music fans care more about climate change'  https://www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_849057_en.html Coldplay's kinetic dance floor  https://nypost.com/2021/10/14/coldplays-eco-friendly-tour-to-run-on-fans-dancing/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Climate of Change podcast with Cate Blanchett and Danny Kennedy  https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Climate-of-Change-with-Cate-Blanchett-and-Danny-Kennedy-Podcast/B09WFBG7SM Greg recommends: Live event: Sounds Like A Plan x Outrage + Optimism, The Podcast Show, London, Wednesday 25th May 2022  https://www.thepodcastshowlondon.com/speaker-line-up?&azletter=C&searchgroup=AE8A92A2-speakers — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
54:51
May 16, 2022
'Commitment' – with In Hearts Wake's Jake Taylor, vocalist, film-maker and thrivalist
Green Is The New Black is something special – a new, impact documentary film that follows the story of a band confronting their environmental impact, and, crucially, doing something about it.  The band are the Australian metalcore outfit In Hearts Wake, and this time on the podcast we're joining by the band's vocalist and director of the movie, Jake Taylor. Green Is The New Black follows their journey to make a carbon neutral album.  Jake joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to walk about why the band wanted to share their story, the challenges of "carbon neutral recording" and the inspiring signals the documentary can send to the broader music community.  Before we sign off, Fay and Greg will also leave you with some recommendations [details below].  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Wilderness Festival, taking place at Cornbury Park, Oxfordshire, between 4-7 August 2022. Tickets are available now: https://www.wildernessfestival.com/tickets/ — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Green Is The New Black trailer  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NwCw9OF8Y Green Is The New Black – official website https://greenisthenewblack.film/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: No Music On A Dead Planet playlist on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4dBO958KosdjNFQ1OzsqBA?si=4b717939c89445a9 Greg recommends: REIMAGINING IBIZA – dreaming big  https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OnHXHUgtDq6OjpeRrN1J5?si=89a472d84c4d4d58 — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
43:23
May 09, 2022
'Feel-good' – with singer Pip Millett and vegan chef Rachel Ama
As the dust settles, your hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane take a look back Earth Day 2022. It was an extraordinary one for music responding to the climate crisis – we take at look at some of the highlights.  Meantime, in our on-going pursuit to look at all the ways the music community is responding we welcome two guests onto this week’s episode: rising Manchester singer Pip Millett and vegan chef and YouTube star Rachel Ama. Together the friends are the co-creators for Pip & Rachel’s Vegan Food Truck, a project they brought to life at one of Pip’s concerts in 2022. That opens up a discussion about the rise of vegan food at gigs and festivals, and how food and music both play an essential role in our physical and mental wellbeing. How they both make us feel good.  As always, Fay and Greg also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Latitude festival, taking place at Henham Park, Suffolk, between 21-24 July 2022. Tickets are available now: https://www.latitudefestival.com/tickets/ — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Pip Millett’s latest single 'Ride With Me' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdadFmZWl5I Rachel Ama’s One Pot: Three Ways https://www.rachelama.com/new-page-31 Rachel Ama's appearance in Seat At The Table https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxs_I_VnFrY Earth/Percent X Bandcamp campaign - 123 songs released for climate  https://earthpercent.bandcamp.com/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Bosh! – Henry Firth and Ian Theasby https://www.bosh.tv/book/bosh-the-cookbook Greg recommends: The Environmental Music Prize https://environmentalmusicprize.com/ And… Edwina Flock from The Environmental Music Prize guesting on the Outrage + Optimism podcast https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/earth-day-special-the-environmental-music-prize-edwina-floch?hsLang=en — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
38:30
April 25, 2022
EARTH DAY SPECIAL: with Nick Mulvey, songwriter and environmentalist
Earth Day is here – one of the busiest periods of the year when it comes to climate action and music. There is some incredible stuff planned for Friday 22 April 2022.  Your hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane plug you in to all the best stuff happening – including a preview of Earth Percent's Bandcamp campaign which will see everyone from Coldplay to The Weather Station, Declan McKenna to Anna Calvi – around 100 artists – release new music this week for Earth Day. And, in something special, our guest is celebrated British songwriter, singer and environmentalist Nick Mulvey, discussing his plans for Earth Day, his environmental heroes and how nature and spirituality have informed his songwriting. Plus, check out a podcast of specially extended Earth Day recommendations. Info below. — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Wireless Festival, being held outdoor at the NEC, Birmingham on 8-10 July. Tickets are available now: https://birmingham.wirelessfestival.co.uk/tickets/ — Greg and Fay's Earth Day recommendations: Earth Percent x Bandcamp for Earth Day  https://earthpercent.org/earthday/ Go Local for Earth Day  https://www.musicdeclares.net/gb/events/golocal-with-music-declares-emergency-and-music-venues-trust Resolution Song x Earth Day 2022 https://www.youtube.com/planetresolution Love Ssega's Home-Zero at National Gallery  https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/events/love-ssegas-home-zero-performance-by-love-ssega-22-04-2022 Reverb – favourite Earth Spots  https://www.instagram.com/reverb_org/?hl=en — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
32:02
April 18, 2022
'Preservation' – with Dealrafael Jsp-E (Jaspher Ewany), artist and founder Lango Indigenous Hip-Hop
When we talk about 'preservation' in the context of our increasingly volatile climate, we're not just talking about land, soil or oceans – but culture; the stories, practices and traditions that make us who we are. Many indigenous cultures are under threat with places becoming increasingly uninhabitable because of extreme weather or the effects that a changing climate has on basics like food and water supplies.  This week's episode is dedicated to someone working on the frontline in communities directly dealing with this – Ugandan rapper, lyricist, youth community organiser and self-proclaimed "Hip-Hop Practitioner" Dealrafael Jsp-E (Jaspher Ewany). Jaspher's the founder of Lango Indigenous Hip-Hop, an organisation who engage, educate and inspire local people using the power, joy and unity of music. By doing that, he's also preserving and creating indigenous stories, knowledge and culture. He also tells hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane about what it means to be a "true Hip-Hopper!"  As always we'll also leave you with some recommendations. Thanks for joining us.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Wireless festival, taking place at Finsbury Park, London, 8-10th July 2022. Tickets are available now: https://finsburypark.wirelessfestival.co.uk/tickets/ — Links to things discussed in the podcast: The Guardian: It's now or never to starve off climate disaster  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/04/ipcc-report-now-or-never-if-world-stave-off-climate-disaster Lango Indigenous Hip-Hop https://langoindigenoushiphop.org/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Following these two hashtags on your social feeds #Juststopoil and #Nomusiconadeadplanet  Greg recommends: Climate Solutions Bookclub  https://www.getrevue.co/profile/ClimateSolutionsBookClub?via=twitter-card&client=MobileWeb&element=publication-card — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
27:36
April 11, 2022
'Visualise' – with Prof. Ed Hawkins MBE, climate scientist and creator of The Warming Stripes graphic
It’s been a privilege to welcome some major names in music onto the podcast so far – on the flip side, Prof. Ed Hawkins MBE is one of the great modern figures in climate science. Not only is he one of the lead authors on multiple IPCC reports, he’s also creator of the world-famous Warming Stripes graphic. The striking visual charts our heating planet since 1850, and has crossed over into music, art, fashion and beyond. For example, former guests on this podcast Enter Shikari use the artwork in their live show. Ed joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss the extraordinary impact of the Warming Stripes, the role of public engagement in climate action and give an assessment on the latest science, and what action we can all take next.  Our hosts will also leave you with some recommendations (more info below). — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Wireless Festival, being held at Crystal Palace, London on July 1–3 2022. Tickets are available now: https://crystalpalace.wirelessfestival.co.uk/tickets/ — Useful links to things discussed in the podcast: Download and use The Warming Stripes https://showyourstripes.info/ Enter Shikari and Ed Hawkins at COP26 in Glasgow, 2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6QtbeiDEM Tesla car decorated in the Warming Stripes https://electrek.co/2018/07/27/tesla-model-3-wrap-climate-change-awareness/ This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Welsh language Music Declares T-shirt  https://www.musicdeclares.net/gb/shop Greg's recommendation Deep Time Walk  https://www.deeptimewalk.org/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
45:38
April 04, 2022
'Storytelling' – with Nicky Hawkins, On Road Media
The podcast is back! Series 3 of Sounds Like A Plan starts right here. Ten new weekly episodes coming your way.  We begin by welcoming Nicky Hawkins, communications director at On Road Media, onto the podcast. On Road are all about media storytelling around the climate crisis and other social issues, working with TV producers, documentary makers and – most relevant to our podcast – musicians.  She joins your co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss how language and storytelling creates progress in the climate emergency, the role of "framing" around those messages and what a "Don't Look Up" moment in music culture could look/sound like.  Greg and Fay also round up some major climate/music headlines from while they've been away, preview what's coming up on this series of the podcast and leave you with some recommendations (more info below).  — Sounds Like A Plan series 3 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including Download Festival, being held at Donington Park, Leicestershire on June 10–12th 2022. Tickets are available now: https://downloadfestival.co.uk/tickets/ — Useful links to things discussed in the podcast: On Road Media  https://onroadmedia.org.uk/about/ Six ways to change hearts and minds about climate change  https://onroadmedia.org.uk/2020/09/15/six-ways-to-change-hearts-and-minds-about-climate-change/ Don't Look Up https://www.netflix.com/tudum/dont-look-up This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Music Declares Emergency x Music Venue Trust – Go Local Earth Day project https://www.musicdeclares.net/ Greg's recommendation TOPIA Magazine  https://worldoftopia.com/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
54:09
March 29, 2022
'Nightlife' – with Clean Scene's Eilidh McLaughlin
In this final episode of series 2 of Sounds Like A Plan we're talking DJs, clubbing and dance music. Our guest is Eilidh McLaughlin co-founder of Clean Scene – a collective set-up to alternative pathways for dance music community in the face of the climate emergency. They published a report, Last Night A DJ Took A Flight, in 2021 which highlighted some of the environmentally damaging cultures and practices (e.g. a popular DJ flying between multiple countries in a weekend), and presented a series of solutions.  Here, Eilidh discusses the reactions to their work, and reflects on the experience of working with Stop Climate Chaos Scotland in Glasgow at COP26 in November.  And before the series is wrapped up, hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Isle of Wight festival, that will take place 16-19 June, 2022, near Newport, Isle of Wight. Weekend and day tickets are on sale now: https://isleofwightfestival.com/info/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Clean Scene 'Last Night A DJ Took A Flight' report https://cleanscene.club/report.pdf Clean Scene on Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/cleanscene.club/?hl=en — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: Tamsin Omond's book 'Do Earth: Healing Strategies For Humankind' https://www.waterstones.com/book/do-earth/tamsin-omond//9781914168000 Greg recommends: Future Energy Artists' 'Solar Slice' project  https://www.feat.ltd/post/introducing-the-solar-slice — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
50:49
December 07, 2021
'Injustice' – with Jess Kangalee, from Good Energy PR and the Black Music Coalition
We hear it time and again, the most impactful contribution music can make to the broader climate crisis is to shout about it.  Jess Kangalee is a leader in this area having founded her own PR company - her clients include Mykki Blanco to Rochelle Jordan, a space she specifically created to champion multi-genre queer artists and artists of colour - where she works with musicians to tell their stories and amplify their activism.  Set up following the murder of George Floyd in 2020, Jess is also an active member of the Black Music Coalition – an organisation dedicated to eradicating racial inequality and establishing equality and equity for Black executives, artists and their communities within the UK Music Industry. Jess discusses the parallels between activist movements - from climate to race - and how they can support each other, and raise each other's voices to build lasting change.  Co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some weekly recommendations.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Isle of Wight festival, that will take place 16-19 June, 2022, near Newport, Isle of Wight. Weekend and day tickets are on sale now: https://isleofwightfestival.com/info/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Good Energy PR https://www.goodenergypr.com/ Black Music Coalition  https://www.blackmusiccoalition.co.uk/ Cultural Intelligence training  https://culturalq.com/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay recommends: NO MUSIC ON A DEAD PLANET https://musicdeclares.net/ Greg recommends: Podcast: Life Sentence  https://www.magscreative.co.uk/2021/11/18/launching-life-sentence-our-newest-mags-creative-original/ — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
55:26
November 30, 2021
'Connection' – with Charlotte Church
Charlotte Church has a deep history with both activism and music – and right now she's putting her energy into two grassroots projects that bring together the strands of education, environment, wellbeing, sustainability and the future of our planet.  She joins co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss Rhydoldog – an area of outstanding natural beauty in mid-Wales – where, along with the community, she's building a healing retreat centre. She also explains how The Awen Project, the democratic school she co-founded, approaches topics like climate education. She also reveals her plan to become a gong bath practitioner!  It's all rooted in a deep passion for the natural environment and the urge to create a better future for the next generations.  Fay and Greg also reflect on the outcomes of COP26, and leave you with some recommendations.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: The Rhydoldog Project https://rhydoldog.wixsite.com/my-site The Awen Project https://www.theawenproject.com/ This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Hope In The Dark, by Rebecca Solnit  https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Rebecca-Solnit/Hope-In-The-Dark--Untold-Histories-Wild-Possibilities/19374305 Greg's recommendation The YIKES Podcast, hosted by Mikaela Loach and Jo Becker  https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yikes-podcast/id1498623503 — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
50:34
November 23, 2021
'Conviction' – with Architects' Sam Carter
As revenue models have changed, merchandise has become increasingly important to the livelihoods of many musicians.  But fashion is also a big polluter and can be massively wasteful. British metal band Architects take a responsible approach. With their online merch store they release limited drops to reduce overstock, carefully select materials and manufacture in the UK to cut down on distribution.  Singer Sam Carter joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss how and why they've taken these steps. Plus, he chats about his work as an ambassador for Sea Shepherd UK – a non-profit marine wildlife organisation dedicated to end the destruction of ocean habitats – whose profile was raised by Netflix's recent Seapiracy documentary.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Onto – flexible electric car subscription  https://on.to/ Massive Attack, Dale Vince and Bill Posters launch eco-bot.net  https://www.creativereview.co.uk/eco-bot-robert-del-naja-bill-posters-cop26-greenwashing/ COP26: Watch Julie’s Bicycle's 'The Missing Link' Green Zone event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLA0zbZkfFE&feature=youtu.be INSIDE: COP26 x Clyde Built Radio – listen to radio episodes  https://soundcloud.com/clydebuiltradio UMA Entertainment's COP26 event, featuring Aurora, Nick Mulvey + more  https://www.universe.com/events/cop26-special-event-digital-experience-gbp-tickets-london-Y4QLW0?utm_source=stabal&utm_medium=instagram&utm_campaign=cop26&utm_content=later-22123759 — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
37:37
November 16, 2021
'COP26' – with Enter Shikari's Rou Reynolds
Welcome to a very special episode of Sounds Like A Plan recorded in Glasgow during the UN’s historic COP26 climate summit. Outside of the official climate negotiations, the city has been buzzing with activity – and music has had a significant presence.  Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane chat about all the music action and gigs from the first week at COP26, plus their experiences of witnessing world leaders attending the 'Blue Zone' right through to Greta Thunberg's address at the Fridays For Future protest.  Enter Shikari were one of those gigs, in Glasgow for two night's supporting Music Declares Emergency's #NoMusicOnADeadPlanet. Singer Rou Reynolds joined the podcast to discuss his COP26 experience, his band's history of bringing climate action into their art and the response of their peers.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being held at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Fridays For Future speeches at Glasgow George Square, Friday 5 November 2021 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvVoROaXl-LFyyouEWw8Sw UMA Entertainment COP26 special event https://www.instagram.com/umaentertain/?hl=en Ed Hawkins' climate stripes, used by Enter Shikari https://showyourstripes.info/s/globe — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
48:39
November 09, 2021
'NFTs' – with Max Shand, creator of Serenade
NFTs are the most hyped new format the music space has seen in years – recently everyone from Grimes to Kings of Leon have got in on the act. However, traditional NFTs also have a tremendously harmful effect on the environment. But these digital collectibles don’t have to.  Max Shand is the creator of Serenade, a recently launched NFT platform who, via the technology they utilise, have a more eco conscious approach. And, in a world where these digital collectibles change hands for huge sums of money, he wants NFTs to be affordable and accessible to real music fans while creating a sustainable system that financially rewards creators. He's also very good at explaining what NFTs are, in case you're still thoroughly confused.  Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also share some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Serenade NFTs https://serenade.co/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Vestiaire Collective - buy second hand clothes  https://us.vestiairecollective.com/ Greg's recommendation Seat At The Table documentary series presented by Jack Harries  https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCz4fqxNcuDkYWH0A83DRQXBKJ4Ww2OO1 — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
47:01
November 02, 2021
'Impact' – with James Thornton, environmental lawyer + founder ClientEarth
The worlds of law and music may seem like unexpected companions in the climate crisis, but brought together they’re a formidable force for change. Here, environmental lawyer and founder of ClientEarth James Thornton discusses how his organisation’s work with Coldplay, Brian Eno and Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour has directly halted the coal-fired power plants, saved lives and preserved the planet. Client Earth are considered one of the most impactful climate organisations out there – and rightly so.  James is also a huge advocate for how art can help communicate urgency, but also build a vision of hope that'll encourage all us to contribute towards a better, healthier, fairer future.  He also shares his thoughts on UN’s pivotal COP26 summit in Glasgow - being held just days away now in Glasgow, UK - and hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Dave Gilmour’s viral message about the sale of his guitars and Client Earth  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrd8NUOVH4 ClientEarth summit https://events.hubilo.com/ClientEarthSummit2021/register — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation What a Wonderful World - Choir's Sing For Change  https://www.musicdeclares.net/ Greg's recommendation On.to – all inclusive electric car subscription https://on.to/ — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
56:19
October 26, 2021
'Groundwork' – with Lauren Sullivan, co-director REVERB
How can artists bring effective climate action to their shows? REVERB are one of the originators of this – they currently work with musicians ranging from Billie Eilish to Tame Impala, Harry Styles to The 1975. They help musicians green their tours, while also helping to bring fans into the conversation on the ground at their concerts. Lauren Sullivan - co-founder of the U.S. non-profit REVERB along with her partner Adam Gardner from the band Guster - joins us to talk about tangible actions like bringing eco-villages to gigs, sourcing food from local farmers and encouraging music peers to take action by sharing their learnings, data and resources. Co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also discuss Coldplay’s recently announced plans for their Music For The Spheres world tour – where they’ve taken 12 steps to become more sustainable, including the introduction of a kinetic dancefloor that’ll generate clean energy to power the concert. As ever, they’ll also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now: https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Coldplay reveal plans for a more environmentally conscious world tour https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-58907085 REVERB’s Music Climate Revolution and resources https://reverb.org/campaign/music-climate-revolution/ The No More Blood Wood campaign https://reverb.org/campaign/no-more-blood-wood/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Music Declares Emergency’s special collaboration with The 1975 https://musicdeclares.shop/ Greg's recommendation TED Talks Countdown Summit - resources https://www.ted.com/series/countdown — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
55:25
October 19, 2021
'Opportunity' – with Brian Eno, artist, producer and co-founder of EarthPercent
A legendary artist, and one of the music world's great thinkers - Brian Eno is our first guest on series 2 of Sounds Like A Plan. In spring 2021 Eno co-founded EarthPercent an organisation designed to help direct funds from the music industry towards some of the the most effective climate causes. Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane joined Brian in a cupboard (explained in the podcast) at his west London studio to hear about how the project aims to accelerate action on climate, while also hearing Eno's thoughts on the steps being taken by his peers including Coldplay, U2, Billie Eilish and others. He also shares his thoughts on climate "hypocrisy", how art can help steer the perception of the climate issue and how he believes we should be talking about the emergency in terms of "opportunity". — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the beautiful music, art and wellness festival Wilderness, being held in Oxfordshire in August 4-7 2022. Early bird tickets are available now: https://www.wildernessfestival.com/tickets/ — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Earth/Percent https://earthpercent.com/ ClientEarth https://www.clientearth.org/about/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Book: 'How To Spend A Trillion Dollars' by Rowan Hooper https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54823535-how-to-spend-a-trillion-dollars Climate Music Blowout, London, 17 October 2021 - tickets https://www.climatemusicblowout.com/ Greg's recommendation ClimateLive 2021 https://www.instagram.com/climatelive2021/?hl=en The Earthshot Prize on BBC iPlayer https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p09w80wb/the-earthshot-prize-repairing-our-planet — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
01:04:21
October 12, 2021
'Moment' – with Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane
Welcome back! As we enter a decisive few months for climate commitments (hello, COP26!), we’ll be bringing you a brand new collection of impactful conversations with climate/music change-makers. Here, your co-hosts Fay Milton (musician and activist, Music Declares Emergency + Savages) and Greg Cochrane (journalist and podcaster) preview the topics and the guests you can expect to hear from in the coming podcasts. We’ll also be looking back on some significant climate and music headlines from the past few months, and look ahead to what to expect from the vital, forthcoming few months of climate action. As ever, we’ll also leave you with some recommendations [scroll down for more]. — Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They organise festivals including the brilliantly eclectic Latitude, being held in Suffolk in July 2022. Early bird tickets are available now: https://www.latitudefestival.com/tickets — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Massive Attack x Tyndall Institute for Climate Research’s recent collaborative report https://www.tyndall.ac.uk/news/massive-attack-publish-tyndall-centre-climate-change-live-music-roadmap UK festivals recently affected by extreme weather https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/standon-calling-suspended-thunderstorms-heavy-5697656 — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Climate Music Blowout event, London, Sunday October 17 https://www.climatemusicblowout.com/ Greg's recommendation Your Brain On Climate podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/your-brain-on-climate/id1577093580 — This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7. https://pirate.com/en/ — More from us on social media: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
33:48
October 04, 2021
'Ownership' – with guest Nigel Adams, Full Time Hobby Records
For the final episode of series one, we're talking recorded music and its impact on the environment: from vinyl to CDs, cassettes to streaming. It's a massive, complicated subject full of nuance. Nigel Adams – boss of independent labels Hassle Records and Full-Time Hobby – has been learning about this area for more than a decade. He joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to break down topics including recycled vinyl, "energy intensive" streaming and "how we need more knowledge" to move forward with recorded music and sustainability. He's also part of the team who recently launched Near Mint – an initiative to make sure imperfect vinyl avoids destruction and still gets sold. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — Links to things discussed in the podcast: Near-Mint vinyl initiative https://musicdeclares.net/gb/campaigns/near-mint Full-Time Hobby https://fulltimehobby.co.uk/ Association Independent Music Climate Group https://www.prsformusic.com/m-magazine/news/aim-climate-action-group-launches/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation How green is your bank? Switch It Make My Money Matter https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/net-zero/ https://switchit.money/ Greg's recommendation BBC Sport 2050: Future news from a warmer world https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/56972366 — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
56:45
May 24, 2021
'Leadership' – with guest Melvin Benn, Festival Republic 
Melvin Benn – festival boss of Reading & Leeds, Latitude and many more – knows how to throw a party. For a long time he's also been a  committed environmentalist – having measured his festivals' carbon footprint for more than a decade, he's also employed a sustainability manager at his company for more than 10 years.  He joins our hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss his views on audience travel, foreign festivals and the difficult questions around event sponsorship, plus why he doesn't want to "burden" young music fans with climate anxiety. He also talks about "electrifying" his festivals, and introducing greener initiatives around things like food. Melvin's contribution has been significant – his leadership has helped shape the sustainability policy of one of the world's largest concert promoters, Live Nation. And as that statement says: "we have a responsibility to preserve the live music experience for generations to come." Before we go, we'll also leave you with our weekly recommendations. Thanks for listening.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Ecolibrium app https://ecolibrium.earth/introducing-the-ecolibrium-travel-log-app/ Greg's recommendation Signals Amidst The Noise newsletter https://globaloptimism.com/newsletters/signals-amidst-the-noise-april-6/ — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
01:01:07
May 17, 2021
'Grassroots' – with guest KAM-BU, musician and conservationist
We're talking local action on this week's episode. Our guest KAM-BU isn't just one of the UK's best new MCs, he's also a keen conservationist. The 24-year-old south London musician has been doing his bit for the local community, the environment and his own wellbeing by volunteering with The Conservation Volunteers – they spend time bringing people together to nurture neighbourhood green spaces, before handing their caretakership over to their newly established communities. Plus, he talks about how nature and sustainability makes its way into his art – and growing tomatoes at home. Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane discuss the balance between everyday, personal actions and the wider climate crisis and also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — KAM-BU's music 'Black On Black' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c67Nbr3ePu8 'Are You On?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2zzNZumGpo — The Conservation Volunteers https://www.tcv.org.uk/ Green Gym  https://www.tcv.org.uk/greengym/ — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation 'The Book Of Trespass' by Nick Hayes https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Nick-Hayes/The-Book-of-Trespass--Crossing-the-Lines-that-Divide-Us/24600439 Greg's recommendation 'Where's Our Climate Anthem?' podcast episode from How To Save A Planet https://gimletmedia.com/shows/howtosaveaplanet/llhl9xr — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
48:06
May 10, 2021
‘Community’ - with guest Heidi Lenffer from FEAT (Future Energy Artists) and Cloud Control
A couple of years ago musician Heidi Lenffer, keyboardist with the band Cloud Control, was shocked when she looked into her band’s touring carbon footprint. Her response was fantastically positive: she formed FEAT. (Future Energy Artists) an investment scheme created by musicians that funded the build of a clean energy solar farm. It was a way for some of Australia's best known acts to offset their touring, but also invest in their future along with everyone else's. It's an example of music and climate action colliding with true innovation and the power of collective thinking. And who knows, maybe it's a scheme that can make its way around the world? Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also discuss the latest headlines in music/climate, and leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Shesaid.so https://www.instagram.com/shesaid.so/?hl=en Black Lives In Music  https://www.instagram.com/blacklivesinmusic/ Greg's recommendation Co Go app https://cogo.co/ — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
57:54
May 03, 2021
'Determination' – with guest The 1975's manager Jamie Oborne
The 1975 have been one of the biggest and most influential voices in music and climate action the past couple of years – from organising reforestation campaigns to collaborating with Greta Thunberg. Their record label, Dirty Hit, have also taken industry-leading steps to become more sustainable. On this episode the band's manager Jamie Oborne talks about how their 2019 collaboration with Greta came about, the story of meeting the "punk" climate activist for the recording session in Sweden and some of the subsequent criticism the group received from certain areas of the media. Jamie also discusses The 1975's current plans to develop a new light-weight, less carbon-heavy live show, the influence of his children on his climate passion and his thoughts on this year's UN COP26 summit in Glasgow in November. Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also look back on Earth Day 2021 and what was a massive week for music and climate action, and leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Kerrang! cover feature: 'How rock music is answering the climate crisis call' https://www.kerrang.com/features/no-music-on-a-dead-planet-how-rock-is-answering-the-climate-crisis-call/ Greg's recommendation 'The Future We Choose' by Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac. https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Christiana-Figueres/The-Future-We-Choose--Everyone-should-read-this-book-MATT-HAIG/25586844 — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
01:05:46
April 26, 2021
'Understanding' – with guest Chiara Badiali, from Julie's Bicycle
We're at a point where the music world is full of people who want to be more sustainable and take some form of climate action but don't know where to start. The route to making a useful contribution begins with understanding... then making a plan. The UK not-for-profit organisation Julie's Bicycle are all about education – they help the creative industries understand their environmental impact (measuring their carbon footprint, for example) and then work with them to create their own green strategies. They've collaborated with artists, festivals and venues. On this episode Chiara Badiali joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss the tools and guidance Julie's Bicycle provide, hear about the most common questions they get asked and take a peek at what a more sustainable music industry looks like – electrified festivals and pints of lager made from recycled urine could become more common! Cheers! Fay and Greg also look ahead to a momentous week of music/climate action, and leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — This episode's recommendations: Fay's recommendation Rough Trade and Music Declares Emergency present Music in the Climate: How can record labels, record stores, and artists respond to the climate crisis? Wednesday 21 April 2021, 7pm GMT. Livestream event: https://bit.ly/3261PSz Greg's recommendation #PlaylistsForEarth – listen to playlists from Coldplay to Anna Calvi, Kelly Lee Owens to Squid. It's all about raising awareness around the work of Client Earth, an organisation using the law to protect our planet.  playlistsforearth.com — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
01:02:23
April 19, 2021
'Influence' – with guest Ed O'Brien, from Radiohead
Radiohead have spent almost two decades supporting green causes and writing about the ecological emergency in their music. On this podcast, we speak to guitarist Ed O'Brien about his band's longterm interest in sustainability, the impact of nature on his mental health and the music community's response to the climate crisis. Clue: he's watching Coldplay with interest. He also does a very passable impression of Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Fay and Greg also look ahead to a busy month of climate action, and leave you with some recommendations.  — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — Recommendations: Fay's recommendation Surfers Against Sewage's clean up campaign  https://www.sas.org.uk/ Greg's recommendation It's Freezing In L.A.  https://www.itsfreezinginla.co.uk/ — Useful links: Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast Fay Milton Twitter – @faymilton Instagram – @faymilton Greg Cochrane Twitter – @Gregcochrane
50:03
April 13, 2021
'Action' – with guest Fay Milton, from Savages and Music Declares Emergency
Welcome to Sounds Like A Plan. The guest on our debut episode is none other than our podcast co-host Fay Milton from the band Savages. Where better to start than hear from a leading voice in music and climate activism? Fay speaks to Greg Cochrane about the beginnings of Music Declares Emergency – a movement bringing people from across the music industry together to make progress on climate – how she personally got into environmental action, and what urgently needs to happen next. We'll also leave you with some recommendations. — Sounds Like A Plan series 1 is supported by Bulb – the green energy company. Listeners of the podcast can take advantage of £50 credit when they switch to Bulb's renewable energy, via this link. https://join.bulb.co.uk/refer/soundslikeaplan — Useful links: Sounds Like A Plan Instagram Fay Milton Twitter / Instagram Greg Cochrane Twitter Recommendations: Fay's recommendation  Music Declares Emergency Official website / Instagram / Twitter Greg's recommendation A Matter of Degrees podcast – 'Give Up Your Climate Guilt' 
53:15
April 05, 2021
Introducing... Sounds Like A Plan
The climate crisis is the most urgent issue facing the planet right now. But can music help save the world? Sounds Like A Plan is the new podcast series that'll find out.  Each episode chats to a name in the music world taking action – and not just those in front of the mic... from festival bosses to artists, record labels to data analysts.   Hosted by journalist Greg Cochrane and musician and activist Fay Milton, from the band Savages and co-founder of Music Declares Emergency.  Series One coming 6 April 2021. 
02:21
March 30, 2021