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ClimateGenn hosted by Nick Breeze

By Nick Breeze
Interviews with environmental / climate change experts discussing the choices we collectively face in determining what future we will shape for ourselves, future generations, and all other life within the biosphere.

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Sunny Morgan: Cancel the debt... take your knee off the neck of the Global South!
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with Sunny Morgan in South Africa about the Debt for Climate Campaign that is calling for the global north to cancel the debts of the global south, which are both crippling the economies in developing nations and financing huge fossil fuel projects that we desperately need to get rid of. [Support the work of ClimateGenn] Sunny outlines how these institutions work with corporations to lock in hugely destructive projects that are destroying natural ecology, trashing the climate, and ruining people's lives. This is a system of corruption that must be stopped as part of the just transition to a fairer and cleaner world. There simply is no place for what equates to a contemporary form of colonialism and the campaign will be making its case at the G7 meeting later this month in Germany and again at COP27 in Egypt in November. Check out their website at Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn. You can watch, listen and subscribe on Youtube and all podcast channels. To get episodes early and also access additional content relating to the future we are facing, you can subscribe via Patreon which also supports this project. Thank you.
June 20, 2022
Dr John B Cobb | Living Earth Movement to unite China and the US for climate and ecology
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with the theologian, environmentalist and philosopher, and author of over 50 books, Dr John B Cobb, about his efforts to bring into being a Living Earth Movement. [Join ClimateGenn for early episodes + extra climate focussed content] The Living Earth Movement asks us all to look at how we can reshape humanity to act as part of the ecosphere and not against it. A major part of John’s mission is to call on the US and China to stop competing and start working together as leaders in the change we need to end the destruction of our planet. John implores all of us as individuals to think about the way we live and not take anything for granted, especially now that we are committed to devastating impacts from the ecological destruction we are bringing on ourselves. The Living Earth Movement ( was founded in February, this year at the same time that John turned 97 years old, clearly demonstrating that it is never too late to take action to strive for a better world for all ecology. Action and activism are hot topics at the moment and in the next episode I am speaking Sunny Morgan in South Africa about a new campaign called Cancel The Debt - a call from thousands of activists in the global south demanding the global north cancel the very debts that are preventing them rising out of poverty and accelerating a green transition. Thank you for listening. Please subscribe and share on Youtube, or any major podcast channel. If you want to access episodes early, and gain access to unseen interviews, please consider becoming a member on Patreon where more climate emergency interviews and insights will be posted in the months to come. Thank you.
June 15, 2022
Prof Kevin Anderson |Worst of both worlds - dire impacts + less carbon budget
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with professor Kevin Anderson from the Tyndall Centre at Manchester University. [Support this channel and access episodes early with additional content segments, articles, etc - ] This is a longer interview with many, I believe, crucial points for consideration. We discuss our current usage of the available carbon budget for 1.5ºCelsius at just under 1% per month. Also the dangerous and foolish behaviour of UK Secretary of State for Energy, Kwasi Kwarteng, in trying to reclassify natural gas (methane), as a green gas in order to increase investment. Download the Phase-Out Paper being discussed: Kevin Anderson Quotes: “Practically and morally, we are obliged to help [poorer nations] leapfrog over their fossil fuel period.” “Every month we are using just under 1% of the carbon budget.” “Senior academics are the new climate skeptics in my view!” “Natural gas - Methane is a transition fuel… to 4ºC” “We all paint a picture that fits with our world view but as we reassess that world view repeatedly, eventually it doesn’t sit with our world view.” “It is disturbing and interesting in the law that we will protect things that are causing incredible damage and we will prosecute things that are trying to stop that incredible damage being caused.” “Particularly academics, we are paid to be honest and direct about our research and we will sweeten the pill, hugely sweeten the pill in public and I think that is deeply arrogant, of often very decent people, fast we think the public can’t deal with it” “The policymakers are simply not up to the job.” In March, Kevin and colleagues at the Tyndall Centre released a research paper titled: Phaseout Pathways for Fossil Fuel Production within Paris-compliant Carbon Budgets. I begin by asking Kevin to clarify the critical points of this paper as he can do this much more clearly than I can! Please do comment and send feedback. You can support this channel on Patreon to access interviews earlier and with extra content. You can also subscribe for free on Youtube, and all major podcast channels. Thank you.
June 05, 2022
No. 1 Climate vulnerable wine region, Alentejo in S Portugal, focuses on true sustainability & regenerative agriculture
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am introducing Alentejo in Southern Portugal, declared in 2005 as one of the most climate-vulnerable wine regions in the world. The Alentejo region has been seeing temperatures rise and drought conditions intensify as rain patterns become more erratic and extreme. [Please support this channel on] In June I will be releasing a series of 9 recordings from my visit and interviews with producers and members of the Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme, looking at how they are responding to the emergent climate challenges. In the next ClimateGenn episode out this week, I am speaking with Professor Kevin Anderson about his recent research paper on phasing out fossil fuels to stay within the 1.5ºC obligation that governments set in Paris in 2015. This is a detailed conversation where Kevin talks about our current predicament being ‘The worst of both worlds with dire consequences and less carbon budget available to transition to clean energy’. What follows is the narration of the typescript of my overall response to the presentation given in London by the Wines of Alentejo producers.
June 02, 2022
Sir David King on Heatwaves, Action, and Activism: "No one will escape.."
The current heatwave in India and Pakistan sets the scene for this ClimateGenn episode, speaking with Climate Crisis Advisory Group Chair, Professor Sir David King about their new report on what we must do to have the best chance of averting climate and ecological collapse. [Support this work and listen/watch episodes early by backing on Patreon: Sir David makes it very clear that nobody will escape these impacts as the climate emergency worsens and what we are seeing in India continues to spread around the world. Sir David emphasises the need for solidarity and pulling together to meet the challenges at the global level. He also highlights that wealthier countries must pay-up on adaptation costs for vulnerable and poorer nations. As someone with first hand experience of the climate negotiations, Sir David points the finger at the United States for its lack of global leadership on appropriate climate action at the political level. Activism around the world is stepping up as people realise the failures of governments to take appropriate action. Even the UN Secretary General is calling out the failures of world leaders, declaring that activists are rational actors compared to those entrusted with power. Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn. To get episodes early as well as unpublished archive material, you can support the channel via Patreon or become a member on Youtube. You can also subscribe for free on Youtube, or all major podcast channels. Thank you.
May 21, 2022
Dr Delton Chen | Ministry For A Living System Economy
In this ClimateGenn episode I speak with Dr Delton Chen, the originator of the ‘Chen Paper’ concept made famous by Kim Stanley Robinson in his book, Ministry For The Future.  Delton is an engineer by training but has take almost a decade out to study economics to see if his Carbon Reward Coin concept, the idea of a reward for mitigating carbon, could provide the missing link needed to rebalance the human economy.   Support ClimateGenn on Patreon: The Global Reward Coin would be backed by central banks around the world in order to provide stability and a mechanism to account for what he calls, The Living Systems Economy.   By making a comparative analysis of this concept with other economic proposals, Delton asserts that de-growth and circular economy proposals are inadequate to solve the climate emergency when placed in the context of the current paradigm of human civilisation.  Please do comment or send feedback as I will be interested to hear what people think.  Also, thank you for listening and subscribing. If you do want to support this work then please share the episode on whatever available channel, or you can back it on Patreon. Thanks.
May 10, 2022
Dr Paul Behrens - Food Security In A Vulnerable World
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with Dr Paul Behrens about how the global food system is vulnerable to the domino effects that arise from conflict, climate impacts and other pressures. Please support this channel via Patreon: or follow via: Over 70% of land use on the planet is given over to animal agriculture and vast amounts of plant-based crops are being used to feed that livestock, we are emitting vastly more carbon than we need and leaving ourselves wide open for uncomfortable and unaffordable shocks. Paul talks about the changes that we can and should make in order to build resilience and make the food system actually work for all. Emerging science is showing that we are now vulnerable to multiple extreme events in bread baskets around the world happening at the same time. With 10% of the world’s population already struggling to feed itself, is now the time for us all to take the action required causing a social tipping point that, for a change, moves in our favour? Thanks for listening to ClimateGenn. In the next episode, I speak with Dr Delton Chen. Dr Chen is the creator of the Global Carbon Reward coin, a concept made famous in Kim Stanley Robinson’s climate fiction novel, Ministry For The Future. Through the creation of the Living Systems Economy, Chen believes he has a winning formula to finance the restoration of the biosphere, including tackling ecological breakdown and reducing atmospheric carbon. You can subscribe via any podcast channel, plus Youtube, and if you want to support this work you can also back it via my Patreon page. Thank you.
April 14, 2022
Stemming The Rise Of Ecofascism with Sam Moore & Alex Roberts
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking to authors, podcasters, and activists, Sam Moore and Alex Roberts whose recently published book, The Rise Of Ecofascism, explores the characteristics of past, present, and potentially future ‘ecofascism’. The risks posed to society from extreme politics on the right and the left has been rising in recent years. Even in the last week or so, a cache of information was leaked via the Anonymous hacking group linking Putin’s regime to the financing of far right-wing groups across Europe. More evidence of the rise in far-right and fascist groups is seen in places like the UK, France, Italy, or Hungary, where political ground can become an objective. Sam and Alex’s work aims to be a pragmatic guide to identify these tendencies and emerging ideas in order to be able to stop them from rising into dominant movements, which as they evidence in the book, never deliver on the grand promises they make. They also provide a long history of how the far-right have developed relationships to nature that recur in history and are also echoed today in political narratives around climate denialism and delays in ridding ourselves of the fossil fuel era that is destroying the world as we know it. Thank you for listening to the ClimateGenn series. In the next episode I am speaking with Dr Paul Behrens on the risks of food system shocks arising from the Ukraine crisis and how this is a signal of how vulnerable our overall food system is in a worsening climate and ecological crisis. Please do subscribe on any podcast channel or back ClimateGenn via Patreon to get episodes early.
March 31, 2022
David Spratt | Cascading Tipping Points & Existential Risk Management
In this ClimateGenn episode I am speaking with Research Director of the Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration in Melbourne, David Spratt, about assessing climate risk and why incremental tweaks to reduce emissions are failing us. [Please support httpss:// via We also discuss IPCC forecasts, political failure, and how change is possible but it requires a huge mobilisation of resources, coupled with public and political participation and leadership of the Zelensky variety. The clock is ticking, parts of the system are tipping, whether you call it: code-red, an emergency, or blah blah blah, no one is immune from the cascade of climate impacts that we will face if we continue to do nothing to avert the growing threat of climate change this decade and into the future. Thanks for listening to ClimateGenn, especially at a time when there is so much violence and the threat of escalation of war. The pain that this is causing so many is inextricably linked to corruption and fossil fuels that extend well beyond Putin’s regime. I would very much like to express solidarity with the Ukrainian people, as well as with Russians who are standing up to the regime.
March 19, 2022
Dr James Hansen | A decade old and fresh as hell
In this ClimateGenn special episode, I publishing my first interview with Dr Jim Hansen who was at the time Director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. This was recorded in 2012 at the European Geophysical Union, the annual conference that takes place every year in Vienna. Please support at or follow on In recent weeks I have exchanged emails again with Dr Hansen to discuss his recent work that has a working title of ‘The Big Climate Short’. Hopefully this will be recorded once his latest work is submitted for publication. What strikes me about this decade old interview is that the language is so clear and the warnings regarding urgent action are in the timeframe of the next 1-1.5years. He even states the danger of waiting a decade to what would be 2022. Hansen made international news in the late 80’s when he testified to US Congress about the need to change our energy system and reduce atmospheric greenhouse gases. He is straight pragmatic speaker who has consistently issued warnings that have been ignored despite the rising cost inflicted by such ignorance. Here he gives very clear definitions of what tipping points are and the danger of crossing them. He discusses the challenges that scientists face in communicating these problems. He also highlights evidenced strategies that could have significantly dealt with them at the time but with each passing year create an ever growing challenge. We are now where we are. The recent IPCC report talks about the closing window of opportunity to act. Coming at a time of extreme chaos and suffering in Europe, it is hard to see how we will navigate the coming weeks, months and years. How we deal with our own fear and concern regarding these issues is very important. War is obviously not the answer and neither is any sense of nihilism. Being able to focus on the problems and act with a broader sense of community is far more rewarding. In the next episode I am speaking to climate and policy analyst, David Spratt, Research Director at the Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration in Melbourne, Australia. We will be discussing a range of subjects including the accelerating rate of impacts, what climate models don’t tell us, as well as the tipping point risks we can’t see or measure and that may already have been crossed. Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn. I have many more episodes to produce so please do subscribe. Thank you to all who are supporting the channel via Patreon. You can also drop me a note or comment on my website and I will always try to respond. Thank you.
March 13, 2022
Sir Tim Smit | Eden Projects for the future (come the revolution!)
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with Eden Project founder, Sir Tim Smit about the stories that need to be told to create the future we want to have. Please consider supporting this work via a small subscription via Sir Tim sees the now as a moment of great revolution that is emerging from what he calls the new green enlightenment. With world leaders of low-calibre and backward thinking, it is right to ask from whence will these great game-changers emerge? If you have just got your head around exponential climate change then why not have a go at exponential biosphere healing? With 20th century style aggression erupting in Europe, it will take a leap of great faith and hope to keep the lantern burning in these dark dystopian times. Some key quotes: i. “I am at a real sea change with Eden." ii. “A very rapid reappraisal is necessary of the whole world of science, of scientific research, the way it is funded…” iii. “Our disrespect for biology has led to many of the pickles we are now in.” iv. “I think we are living at a time of great revolution… in twenty years time we will be looking at this as the start of a new green enlightenment.” v. “I know many many top business people who feel they would not like to do anything other than have a shower after they have been with many bankers!” vi. “I have met very few leaders who are champions of citizenship. They see leadership as being about being decisive!” Vii. “I see us a shop window on a future that is still ours to make!” Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn where we explore the reality of what to do, and how to come to terms with such a severely changing world. You can support this work via or by subscribing on any major podcast channel and Youtube. Please also consider sharing any episodes of interest.
February 25, 2022
Dr Min Hee Go | Rethinking Community Resilience after Climate Catastrophe
In this episode of ClimateGenn I am speaking with Dr Minnie Go about her recent book ‘Rethinking Community Resilience’ looking in detail at how the city of New Orleans emerged from the destruction of Hurricane Katrina. Support ClimateGenn on Patreon: and visit our website at Minnie’s work looks at how the dynamics between civic groups and governing bodies can determine very different outcomes. Distrust of government by those most impacted communities meant they worked hard and fast to repair the damage to the same standards experienced before Katrina hit. A better-informed approach would have looked at what was necessary to protect them against future impacts that the science tells us are increasing in power and frequency. Minnie’s work gives us insight into how civic groups and communities are likely to become more resilient based on the characteristics and efficacy of regional government. In the next episode, I am speaking to Sir Tim Smit, who created the Eden Project in Cornwall, UK just over 20 years ago. Sir Tim discusses how the Eden Project has developed and become a shop window for initiatives that are going to be key to our survival in the coming years as climate closes in. Thanks for listening to ClimateGenn - please do consider supporting the series via Patreon and/or following on any of the podcast channels or Youtube. Feedback is always welcome too so don’t hesitate to get in touch. I will try my best to respond.
February 18, 2022
Population, Consumption & Climate Change | Dr Paul Behrens
In this episode of ClimateGenn I am speaking to Dr Paul Behrens about the complexity of population, consumption and climate change. Support this channel on Patreon: (website: In his book, ‘The Best of Times, The Worst of Times’ Paul addresses population, presenting both a pessimistic potential outcome, and also a more hopeful outcome based on a set of choices that we, especially those of us in wealthier high emitting countries, can make to improve the chances for a better future. One big barrier to a better future is the growing narrative that stokes fears about migration. The propagating of these myths falls under the title of econativism, a term that Paul both defines and discusses in some detail. Population and migration are critical and controversial issues and when placed in the context of continually rising emissions and consequent impacts, they stress the need for reflection on how we value our own life and the lives of all those around us. In the next episode I am speaking to Dr Min Hee Go in South Korea about her recent book ‘Rethinking Community Resilience’ that looks at the politics of disaster recovery in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Minnie’s research highlights the necessity to not just build back from catastrophe but also how we must ensure community resilience, as the frequency and extremity of these events increase. Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn. You can follow this series on all major podcast channels, on Youtube, on my website at and you can follow and support on Patreon.
February 07, 2022
Professor Katharine Hayhoe: [Who Is] Saving Us[?] - ClimateGenn Podcast
Please do subscribe on and be sure to comment or send me your feedback by email. You can also support this series via   In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking to author and chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy, Professor Katharine Hayhoe about how her recent book ‘Saving Us’ addresses issues relating to personal agency.    2022 has advanced out of the gate with threats of war, massive volcanic eruptions, economic and political upheavals, conspiracy theories, and the worsening accelerating degradation of the biosphere upon which we are all entirely reliant.   Awareness is growing and people from all walks of life are awakening to the need for emergency action. It now feels like we are simply being held back by an adherence by the few to the value systems and aspirations of the last century.   Thank you for listening to ClimateGenn, we have a programme of interviews for this year looking at the multi-faceted problem of rebalancing life in the biosphere.  Please do subscribe and be sure to comment or send me your feedback by email.  You can also support this series via
January 19, 2022
MEER | Mirrors For earth’s Energy Rebalancing with Dr Ye Tao at Harvard University
In this ClimateGenn episode, I speak to Dr Ye Tao at Harvard University who is head of the Mirrors for Earth Energy Rebalancing (MEER). You can follow/support/get in touch via + back via Addressing climate threats With global agriculture across the world at high risk from rising temperatures and associated impacts, Ye’s team are proposing increasing the Earth’s reflectivity in order to reduce the temperature within the biosphere. In this interview we go into some detail about how it works, resource requirements, where it would be deployed and the pathway to scaling up. Social response is critical Ye also highlights the need for more understanding of psychology in order to be able to align the growing numbers of people around the world who are realising that our future is in a perilous state. By bringing people together, putting our wellbeing and safety before profit and extractive endeavours, only then do we really stand a chance of seeing these grand ideas tested and eventually deployed. So much to lose, all to play for A special thank you this week to Marion Troia who sent in a transcript of my last interview with Dr Tero Mustenon. This is interview received terrific feedback and resonated with a great many people, not least myself, so I am really grateful for this support. Thank you to all my new Patrons who are supporting this series and to everyone for listening, commenting and getting in touch.
January 01, 2022
Dr Tero Mustonen | Cascading Arctic Changes will create new planet soon
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking Dr Tero Mustonen who is based within the Arctic Circle about the enormous changes happening there today and that are going to cascade across the globe impacting every one of us. Follow and support at: and Tero works with indigenous peoples inside the Arctic Circle and beyond, utilising what is called Traditional Knowledge Systems that include the linguistic, cultural and natural environments that are complex and holistic. These ancient ways of understanding the world also hold the key to solving many of our systemic problems and yet they are being extinguished, along with the broad swathe of life on Earth. This is all a result of centuries of extraction and consumption, that underpin our contemporary experience of living in developed nations. Despite Tero’s despairing message, he also suggests a pathway to planetary repair through rewinding and by deepening our custodial relationship with nature. Thank you for listening. Please do subscribe if you want to stay up-to-date. You can also support ClimateGenn via Patreon and please do leave feedback which I am always interested to receive.
December 23, 2021
Author Tom Rosenstiel Discusses New Political Climate Thriller: The Days To Come
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with author Tom Rosenstiel about his new political thriller, The Days To Come. Tom has switched hats from journalist to fiction writer, possessing a depth of insight into how both disciplines interact with the public and our experience of reality? Please visit for series information, or to support my work. The Days To Come is a thriller with a climate change theme that touches on many of the complex factors that can either accelerate or undermine our progress in tackling the climate crisis. In this interview we discuss how the book intersects with contemporary reality and also how fiction and journalism contribute to shaping the narrative we internalise that helps us for envision the future. In the next episode I am speaking with indigenous Sámi scholar Dr Tero Mustonen, who is based in the Finnish Arctic, about the climate changes that threaten his communities existence and by extension, our own. We will also discuss what we can do to try and reverse the extreme nature of change in these critical and vulnerable regions of the world. Thank you for listening. Please do subscribe, comment or send feedback because I do read as much as I can and try to respond where possible. Thank you.
December 12, 2021
Prof. Peter Wadhams | Can we remove billions of tonnes of CO2? And methane?
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking to professor Peter Wadhams from the University of Cambridge about his recent research for a book he is writing on the viability of greenhouse gas removal from the atmosphere.   Subscribe at Visit for more information.   Some of these proposals are also referred to as negative emissions technologies, or ‘nets’  and are widely included in national emissions reduction plans despite none being proven at scale today.  We discuss the viability of various proposed techniques including tree planting, bioenergy capture and storage as well as direct air capture and ocean proposals including farming kelp and the use of diatoms for large-scale sequestration.  In the last segment we discuss the risks posed by Arctic methane releases and two proposed techniques for dealing with a potential methane emergency, whereby multiple   billions of tonnes of the potent greenhouse gas are released at once.   These are controversial proposals despite policymakers assuming they will work in the future. The danger of these suppositions is compounded by the fact that many research projects are embryonic and underfunded.   Thank you for listening.  In the next episode, I speak with author Professor Tom Rosenstiel about his new political thriller, The Days To Come. In this interview, we discuss fiction writing and journalism and how these both intersect with reality to shape our world.  You can subscribe on all major podcast channels or Youtube and you can also support my work via Visit for more information.  Thanks for listening.
December 08, 2021
Secretariat Susie Townend: Scotland’s Climate Assembly informs both people & policy
Political elites in the UK have never looked more out of touch than they do today. Despite this, in Scotland, we see a Climate Citizens Assembly that is working with experts to come up with ideas for achieving a lower carbon, cleaner and fairer society. back my work and access more content at and In this episode, I am speaking with the Secretariat of the Scottish Climate Assembly, Susie Townend, who has overseen the creation of the first report to the Scottish Parliament guided by experts but very much created by ordinary folks from across the country. The Scottish Parliament is reviewing the report submitted by the assembly and will respond with feedback by the end of this year. Given the Scottish government’s positive signals given during COP26 in Glasgow, on their commitment to Loss and Damage funding for vulnerable nations, there is some confidence that they are taking the assembly’s input seriously. This kind of informed approach, places empathy, justice, and inclusion at the heart of the policymaking process. It also acknowledges that involving citizens increases momentum towards shaping a world we actually want to live in. Thank you for listening. This whole project is now under the name of ClimateGenn and the archive of work can be seen at You can support this work via - you can also subscribe on Youtube and all of the main podcasts & social media channels.
December 01, 2021
Dr Saleemul Huq | "Vulnerable Countries Left Glasgow with Tears In Their Eyes"
In this ClimateGenn podcast episode, I am speaking to Dr Saleemul Huq about the true outcome of COP26 highlighting how the UK Presidency abandoned the world's most vulnerable nations in order to tow the line of the USA. Follow on | Become a Patron at Saleem also makes it clear that 1.1ºC, where we are today, is the new 1.5ºC - climate impacts are here and they are devastating lives and also taking lives. We must stop thinking about climate action in the future tense and start taking action in the present before it is truly too late to adapt to what we now know is coming. Once highly regarded as a nation that wielded great strength in diplomacy, COP26 will be remembered for the British government's disastrous inability to manage events of global importance. As we move away from Glasgow the threat of extreme impacts grows all the time around us and in response we commit to increasing greenhouse gas emissions that are driving us off the cliff. The pledges made cannot be trusted on the basis that previous pledges have been broken. If as Saleem says, the rich countries continue to bully the poorer nations while consuming the remaining carbon budgets, then our own moral integrity is what is in question. At what point do we say 'no more'? Thank you for listening to the ClimateGenn podcast - you can catch up with my work on my website at or support it via
November 25, 2021
Dr Paul Behrens New Book: Best of Times, Worst of Times | Choosing The Future We [don't] want
In this episode, recorded in Glasgow, I speak to Dr Paul Behrens from Leiden University about how, regardless of what choices we make, humanity is now committed to passing through the eye of the metaphorical needle. What we can expect on the other side may well be in our gift to decide but with each strike of the clock, the forecasts for humanity get bleaker. In his new book, ‘The Best of Times, The Worst of Times’, Paul presents realistic outcomes based on the best case and worst-case scenarios. As he says, the worst case does not necessarily mean a 4ºC world. Tragedy can come long before this and in many parts of the world, it already has. To illustrate this point further, I have put an excerpt of Sir David King speaking about why we must take climate repair seriously, at the end of this podcast. I am planning to catch up again with Paul in the near future to record a population special, based on his research that is also profiled in the book. These are important perspectives worth grasping in an ever more complex and treacherous world. Thanks for listening to this COP notes mini-series. In the next episode, I will be speaking to Dr Saleemul Huq as we look forward from the wreckage of COP26. I will also be publishing my interview with Scottish Climate Assembly Secretariat, Susie Townend. Susie has overseen the creation of the Climate Assembly report to the Scottish parliament that is currently in review. This is an exciting insight into how citizens, experts and policymakers could shape a fairer, more equitable, landscape for change. Please do consider subscribing to You can also view my whole archive on
November 23, 2021
COP26 Wrap Up | Is the process for purpose? Sir David King & Professor Kevin Anderson
In this special podcast edition, I have combined the two interviews with Sir David King and Professor Kevin Anderson to create a wrap-up commentary on the COP that I think is insightful and multifaceted. | | Both interviewees come with a wealth of insight and experience and whether you agree or disagree with what they say, there is no doubt that both scientists force us to think deeply about the way forward from this crisis point in the human journey. Both speakers also touch on common themes about how we think of the COP process and what a successful or failed COP actually looks like. If the politics is failing then what are the positive aspects that we should keep or even exponentiate? Hopefully, guidance towards those answers emerges from these interactions. Thank you for listening. We are nearing the end of COP26 specific content. I have one more interview to upload with Dr Paul Behrens where we discuss some of the themes in his fascinating new book, ‘Best of Times, Worst of Times’. I am also scheduling another call with Dr Behrens to discuss his fascinating chapter on population dynamics as they apply to the Earth’s carrying capacity. If you enjoy this series then please consider joining via - where more subscriber-only content will be published.
November 22, 2021
COP26 Notes: Adaptation Panel with F4F Jakapita Kandanga, Prof Alice Hill, Prof Kevin Anderson, Prof Sir Kavid King
Welcome to the shortened edit of the Adaptation panel that I moderated during COP26 in Glasgow with Pooran Desai. Main links: + + On the panel we had Professor Alice Hill and Professor Sir David King, as well Namibian ‘Fridays 4 Future’ Activist Jakapita Kandanga, as well as Professor Kevin Anderson. In this session we are focussed largely on the UK, USA and Namibia and delve into the complexity of social change, education, building resilience in our cities and how the global middle classes have an obligation to consume less and lead by example as millions more are lifted out of poverty. Other subjects such as greenhouse gas removal, electrification and the role of nuclear also enter the discussion. We were very grateful to such an engaged audience and to the panel and partners who made this happen. The unedited film version is on my Youtube Channel at Nick Breeze ClimateGenn. There are two more COP26 focussed podcasts to upload in the next couple of days which I think offer unique insights. I will also be recording the next round of forward looking interviews with special guests starting this week. Please do subscribe on all the main channels including Youtube where these can be watched. You can also support my work via Patreon or subscribe at
November 21, 2021
Professor Jason Box Addendum: How is Denmark doing on its climate pledges?
After filming the Greenland interview on the Denamrk pavilion in the Blue Zone at COP26, we recorded this short segment on Jason's view on how Denmark, his adopted country, is doing on their climate pledges. Follow my work in more detail at or support my work (and stay up to date on
November 17, 2021
COP26 NOTEBOOK | The Threat of Ice | Prof's Box, Bamber & Huss
In this miniseries of podcasts, I am uploading a selection of the recordings that I took from COP26 starting with this one with 3 ice scientists, Professor Jonathan Bamber, Professor Jason Box, and Professor Matthias Huss. LINKS: | Patreon for support: | Twitter: @ClimateGenn + @NickGBreeze The Cryosphere pavilion in the blue zone at the COP provided the context I needed to be able to understand whether the word ‘Ambition’ truly correlated to the safety of the citizens that negotiators were tasked to defend. It worth noting that we are now decades into the COP process that aims to prevent a catastrophe on Earth but the process itself appears to be broken. The COP where the scientists discuss climate and ecological threats is a solar system away from the jargon in the surrounding rooms that eventually formed the Glasgow Pact. In the next episode, I will upload the audio of the Adapt Now Panel session that I moderated with guests Professor Alice Hill, Professor Sir David King, Professor Kevin Anderson, as well as special guest, youth activist from Namibia, Jakapita Kandanga. This session was co-hosted by Pooran Desai OBE from One Planet. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - please subscribe or follow my work on - all the links and socials are in the notes.
November 16, 2021
Inside COP26Glasgow; is this the ambition needed to avert disaster? Nick Breeze with Prof's Kevin Anderson & Jonathan Bamber
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am inside the COP attending talks and speaking mainly to scientists but also half listening to the pledges and commitments being made. What is striking is the sense of foreboding from people who have followed these negotiations for many years. Contents: 00:00 Intro by Nick Breeze 01:00 John Kerry speaking to C40 mayors 01:23 Professor Richard Bamba (excerpt) 02:09 Kevin Anderson discussing ‘inside the cop’ The noise of the globetrotting political class presents an image of absolute urgency and seemingly sincere desire to do something about it, however, the pledges being put forth, not only fall short of the level of action the science says we need, it also is non-binding. ‘Mission' accomplished? History has shown us that what is said at COP stays at COP. The fanfare and celebrations that many are seeking at the end may well and UK Prime Minister Johnson may well get his opportunity to smirk at the cameras and declare his mission accomplished. Ironically, the word ‘mission’ is attached to lots of initiatives in the climate action sphere but perhaps submission is a more worthy moniker, as the much-vaunted ambition slumps into a commitment that will see ice sheets and glaciers succumb to rising temperatures in the atmosphere and the oceans. Eyes & ears on the science More interviews discussing the science will follow and serve as a brief intro into the reality that we are facing. If we don’t radically change direction then society will enter a phase of chaos and collapse in the face of destabilised weather and rapidly rising seas. What this may look like has been widely speculated and everyone has their own version of the nightmare to contemplate. Who possesses the agency to act? This being the case, now is the time to question the direction that our leaders and the powerful in society are taking us. Failure is not assured and the angry voices of people outside the COP are starting to be heard. Currently, the politicians and the powerful control the narrative and possess the agency of divination but is anyone truly listening anymore? We have heard for decades, the promises that are founded on urgency and deception. The agency that has been taken away from people in terms of a top down ruling of society, with people clambering up the greasy pole to wag their fingers at those below, has now had its day. Every one of us is in a position to contemplate the agency that we possess in our daily lives and in the communities we inhabit. It is essential now that we use that agency in whatever way we see fit to raise the level of real action to a point where apocalyptic visions of the near-future can be consigned to fiction. Find out more on or back my work on Patreon:
November 04, 2021
Professor Rupert Read | Denial On Trial & What To Do When The COP fails
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking to professor Rupert Read on the eve of his trial that has since taken place resulting in a guilty verdict and a very modest fine handed down. Links: Live Event 8 Nov '21 in Glasgow - Patreon: My site: Here we discuss the role of disinformation organisations like the Global Warming Policy Foundation who have spent the last decade denying the threat that climate change poses to ordinary people. As we head to COP26 Glasgow, many politicians, let alone climate scientists are calling this summit: 'a last chance to save the future of humanity'. Despite this, pundits and mainstream media outlets such as The Economist are warning us to prepare for disappointment. This should come as no surprise, thus confirming the successful work of climate denialism over the last decades. The job ahead is too unpalatable for policymakers to sell to civilians despite the growing eco-anxiety among us all. From Sunday I will be reporting from the COP speaking to many people who I have interviewed for this podcast and many more. We will also be live-streaming an event on the 8th of November titled Adapt Now - on my Youtube Channel, so please do join us. I have 2 more interviews to present very shortly but time is making it hard to turn these around but I’ll do my best. Thanks for listening to all these interviews and sharing your feedback which I always try to read. You can subscribe on Youtube or any major podcast channel. You can also support my work via Patreon.
October 28, 2021
Professor Kevin Anderson: “To hell in a hand cart”
In the run-up to COP26 we face a new onslaught of mainstream media coverage of how this conference will decide the fate of humanity. The truth is that even the best outcome being sought by policymakers is far short of what the science tells us is needed to stabilise the global climate. Since the Rio Earth Summit in 1992, where the accelerating decline of planetary systems was acknowledged and leaders expressed the need for change, nothing has been achieved to stop the catastrophic circumstances that we are facing today. In this episode of Shaping The Future I am speaking with Professor Kevin Anderson about his (and colleagues) new paper to be published on the 17th October titled, Three Decades of Climate Mitigation: Why Haven’t We Bent the Global Emissions Curve? In this analysis also emerges potential opportunities that could shift the locus of where we are in entrenched greed by a powerful few, towards a better prepared and resilient future for the majority of us. In the next episode, I am speaking with Jakapita Nanganda on her struggle to oppose oil drilling and the contamination and destruction of forests in Namibia, and the struggles her family is confronting in the face of severe drought. Jakapita will be traveling to COP26 as part of Fridays For Future International to demand a brighter future for her generation. You can subscribe to Shaping The Future on all major podcast channels and Youtube and you can also support my work via Patreon. Please visit for more information.
October 01, 2021
Saleemul Huq | “We have crossed a climate threshold” | ADAPT NOW
Support channel on: or visit: Dr Saleemul Huq is a highly respected climate scientist from Bangladesh who has worked for decades to progress the safety of the most vulnerable people up the climate policymaking agenda. Traditionally the most vulnerable people have been from places like Saleem's own country, Bangladesh, but in this interview, he stresses that we have crossed a new threshold. What we have been seeing in the US and Northern Europe clearly shows that the most vulnerable could be ourselves, our neighbors, or our loved ones. Global climate extremes have arrived at our door and the time to adapt and build resilience is now. As an expert in this field, Saleem gives us some pertinent insights into what makes resilience really work. It is not technology and it is not wealth. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future, there are many more episodes being produced in which we are striving to increase our own understanding and help create a future that we all want to live in. Subscribe on any podcast channel or Youtube and you can also back my work via Patreon.
September 10, 2021
Climate Famine In S. Madagascar | "...a crisis that should not happen!"
Support this Podcast via Patreon: or visit main site at Support the work of the World Food Programme on the ground: click here In this special episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Menghestab Haile, Regional Director for the World Food Programme in Southern Africa, In particular, we are discussing the climate driven drought in southern Madagascar that has over 1 million people on the brink of starvation, including many children in a state of malnutrition. The situation is a dire emergency and very much deserves our attention because the drought that is causing the famine is caused directly by emissions from those of us in developed countries. However, there is a direct link to the previous episode in this series with Alice Hill discussing the need for adaptation and readiness for climate extremes. As Menghestab points out, southern Madagascar is in a period of transition, and given the right support, they can continue to grow crops here and adapt to new emergent conditions. I initially contacted the WFP to do this interview to highlight the humanitarian emergency, however, it has been striking that this is what a real-time climate red alert really looks like. This is a region where many people live by subsistence farming and, no matter the outcome of climate conferences, adaptation is critical.
September 02, 2021
Alice Hill | Adaptation Critical To Our Global Climate Preparedness Strategy
Please visit for more content or support my work via In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Alice Hill who was Special Assistant to President Obama at the White House and Senior Director for Resilience Policy at the National Security Council, working on climate change and pandemic preparedness. In her new book, ‘The Fight For Climate After COVID-19’, to be published on the 5th September, Alice makes the case for why it is imperative that we begin the necessary planning for adaptation for concurrent and consecutive climate extremes that threaten society the world over. With COP26 on the horizon, we are seeing decades of climate policy on mitigation come to virtually nothing as emissions still rise. Timestamps based on interview Questions: 01:20 Most of the narrative around our climate change response at the moment is very focussed on mitigation and debate rages on, regarding whether we are doing enough, fast enough. Your book is a very pragmatic and, in many ways reassuring, breakdown of what we need to do to adapt to climate impacts. Can you start by giving us some background on what led you to write a book that is essentially a global climate preparedness strategy? 03:16 Early on in the book you refer to failures of imagination that mean we cannot prepare effectively. Can you elaborate on what this means and the tools that will need to be developed and deployed in order to fill the imagination gap? 06:40 We are getting strong signals now of what extreme climate-driven impacts look like. You discuss preparedness for concurrent and consecutive disasters. Can you give an example of this kind of scenario and the resilience that would be needed? 09:00 If you take the US, or Europe, for example, we don’t seem to hear much talk about preparation for adaptation, compared to places like Bangladesh, despite the impacts becoming more severe and widespread. Why is it so hard for developed nations to get ahead on this? 14:10 You outline some excellent examples of leadership success and leadership failures, making the point that leadership matters. Looking at how countries have responded to the pandemic, there are obvious winners and losers but, generally, are you seeing the leadership qualities we need to steer us through the critical resilience building years ahead? 15:40 Another major theme you highlight is the borderless nature of climate change and how our response should be equally borderless. If you take a country like the UK and even the US, it seems that we have an unhelpful obsession with borders. How does greater resilience relate to greater cross-border cooperation? *Include water sharing (17:25). 19:10 You use the term ‘survival migrants’ in the book - what are these and how do they fit into the landscape of global change we are entering? 20:05 Is this one issue perhaps a great test of our empathy and humanity? 28:00 How close are we to the point where insurers (and re-insurers) stop insuring? 31:25 In a press conference a few days ago with an agricultural producer in the US I asked how much of their climate strategy was allocated towards adaptation. The answer came back that the focus was purely on mitigation. Can you end by summarising why adaptation planning and mitigation strategies must be treated with equal seriousness right now?
August 24, 2021
How Climate Change Intersects With Global Security | Dr Chad Briggs
Visit: for more information or Contents with Timestamps Hybrid Warfare 01:35 Resilience targeting 4:35 Politics, economics and fossil fuel interests 5:30 Sources of disinformation are a national security threat 8:00 Cyber Aggression 9:00 Climate migrants and nationalist politics 10:30 Tackling societal breakdown due to climate resilience failure at source 12:40 Local knowledge versus models and remote assessments CUT Dependency on fossil fuel supports regimes responsible for disinformation 14:40 Geoengineering, risk and attribution CUT A UN Security Council Specifically for Climate Change 17:35 Opportunities for positive diplomatic solutions | Building trust in time 19:10 Planning a pragmatic route to the future from Phase Zero 21:08 In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking to Global Security expert, Dr Chad Briggs at the University of Alaska Anchorage. Chad advises many global organisations on the intersection between climate change and national and regional security issues. His clients include the US State Department, US Air Force, the Swedish Armed Forces, the European Union, as well as US Dept of Energy, among others. Chad explains the linkages between climate change and hybrid warfare situations that are going on now and will continue to pose a massive threat to societies around the world. These include government level sources of disinformation, such as the Global Warming Policy Foundation in the UK or the Heartland Institute in the US, who are funded by fossil fuel interest groups to sow doubt and chaos that drive us further down the road of climate catastrophe. I want to thank the Global Military Advisory Council on Climate Change (GMACCC) for their help in organising this series of interviews with security experts. The next interview will be with former Obama White House advisor and Head of the US National Security Council for Climate, Alice Hill about her new book due out in September. Additional segments on Geoengineering and models versus first-hand knowledge from this interview with Chad will be available later this week to Patreon backers via This will be accompanied by an overview of the forthcoming interviews and reflections on key points that are emerging from the series. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future - you can subscribe on Youtube or any podcast channel and sign up for email updates on I will also be covering COP26 in Glasgow and conducting interviews with a wide range of participants. So do stay tuned and if you can, please support my work via Patreon. You can also subscribe via the Cambridge Climate Lecture Series at
August 16, 2021
Centre For Climate Repair Cambridge, Dr Shaun Fitzgerald OBE | Flipping buildings from carbon source to sink
Back on Patreon: Visit website: Centre for Climate Repair: In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with the Director of the Centre for Climate Repair in Cambridge, Dr Shaun Fitzgerald about how buildings can be adapted for climate resilience and the potential for flipping them from carbon sources to carbon sinks. With many of the world's largest future cities yet to be built and much of the existing infrastructure in developed countries being unfit for extreme climate scenarios, it is essential that building development projects and innovation are able to meet and beat the challenges that lay ahead. Recent extreme climate catastrophes demonstrate that we need to start adapting to climate change right now and at scale. The theme of adaptation planning is one that I will be exploring more in the coming weeks. If you are listening on Youtube or or another podcast channel, please do post your thoughts on the content in the comments and I will always read and try to reply. Your feedback is most appreciated. Please do subscribe to Shaping The Future at where you can also see the whole podcast archive as well as interviews, panels and articles from the last 5 COP’s as we head towards COP26 Glasgow. If you want to support my work please do so via the Patreon links on I’ll be covering COP26 with filmed interviews and lots of additional content throughout the 2 weeks.
August 03, 2021
Arctic Briefing | Sir David King Interview | Climate Crisis Advisory Group
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with former UK Government Chief Science Advisor, Sir David King. Sir David has recently set up the Climate Crisis Advisory Group (CCAG) to respond with agility to the real-time climate crisis. The first report is linked in the notes and focuses on the Arctic as a key regulator of global climate stability and more recently, chaotic disruption. Please consider supporting this work at: and subscribing at Key points: Jet Stream Omega Event Johanne Rockstrum: Arctic tipping point has passed. Are accelerating impacts at risk of outpacing action? Scientists have mismanaged the modelling of climate change events. Greenland ice sheet is sitting in warm air and losing ice rapidly. We are not prepared for what we are currently seeing! We need a UN Security Council For Climate Change. Our future as a civilisation depends on a rapid response to the situation. UK Policy on China: Timing-wise it could not be worse! The EU, China and US are all talking together. Greenhouse Gas Removal: Build up oceans to what they used to be and we could absorb 30-40 billion tonnes per annum. Refreezing the Arctic: If we don’t manage this we are cooked! The CCAG Report is for Governments, Businesses and Financial operations. The time for action is now! Sir David discusses the mantra they are trying to get into the mainstream consciousness of climate action: Reduce, Remove and Repair. The message is clear that climate is now the main issue threatening our civilisation across the globe. We are now crossing tipping points and the time rapid scaled up action is now. Sir David also suggests the creation of a UN Security Council for Climate Change to deal specifically with the international efforts of nations and regions to tackle arising issues. This connects to my interview next week with NATO and US Government Security Advisor on Climate Change, Chad Briggs. Next week I will also be talking to Dr Shaun Fitzgerald OBE, Director of the Centre for Climate Repair in Cambridge about how we need to flip our building infrastructure from a massive carbon source to carbon sink. This includes existing buildings and the colossal amount that needs to be built with resilience around the world to weather the tide of climate adversity. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. You can see the full archive of podcast interviews and reporting from the last 5 COP’s at Please subscribe to the podcast on any of the main channels and please do consider backing my work on Patreon.
July 30, 2021
Facing The Future | Climate Psychology + Deep Adaptation
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Adrian Tait, co-founder of the Climate Psychology Alliance about his contribution to the new Deep Adaptation book. Links to buy Deep Adaption: Support this channel: Cambridge Climate Lecture Series - Shaping The Future: Nick Breeze's site with full archive: Climate Psychology Alliance: This newly published volume edited by and contributed to by Jem Bendell and Rupert Read includes an updated version of the original Deep Adaptation paper as well input from a total of 20 contributors across a range of fields that deal with issues related to Deep Adaptation and the subject of collapse. Deep Adaptation, with its subheader of ‘Navigating The Realities of Climate Chaos’ is divided into 3 parts: The Predicament, Shifts In Being and Shifts In Doing. Adrian’s contribution gives a broad overview of the evolving field of climate psychology, including the symptoms of distress and denial assisting us to recognise and empathise when we detect them in peers and/or colleagues. Deep Adaptation covers a range of subjects including the future of activism, leadership, the study of collapse itself and related ideas. It is itself a starting point to explore themes around feeling, assimilating and responding to systemic as well as ecological collapse. This subject of this book contrasts and compliments another book that will be published later this year titled ‘The Fight For Climate After COVID-19’ by Alice Hill. Alice has previously served as special assistant to President Barack Obama and senior director for resilience policy on the National Security Council staff and will be discussing her new book here in late August just ahead of publication. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. You can now see the full archive of episodes at along with the archive of interviews and footage recorded at the last 5 COP’s. As we prepare for COP26 in Glasgow, it is worth considering that the climate threats anticipated 30 years ago at the Rio Earth Summit are now among us creating suffering and loss on a daily basis, while not one policy fit for purpose has been implemented to prevent them. Someone might have warned George Bush Senior when he stated that the American way of life is not up for negotiation, that nature cares not for political grandiosity. You can subscribe to Shaping The Future on all the usual channels and also support my work via Patreon. Thank you.
July 27, 2021
Martin Bunzl | Thinking While Walking | Are we delusional about our perception of nature?
In this episode, I speak to the philosopher, Martin Bunzl, about his new book, Thinking While Walking, Reflections on the Pacific Crest Trail. As Martin traverses the 2650 mile trail from the Mexican-US border to the US-Canada border, questions emerge around our own relationship with what we call the natural world. If humanity has curated the landscape for thousands of years, both for-profit and pleasure, what are the impasses and delusions that we are to face in solving the huge ecological and climate problems that currently block our road to the future? These ideas have been discussed before in terms of man versus nature but Martin gives concrete examples of where our romantic view of nature has already shaped the world around us. Thinking While Walking is a fascinating book that considers many of the entrenched positions that many of us hold when we think or speak about action on climate change. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. There are many more episodes on the way, so please consider subscribing via our podcast or Youtube channels. You can also support my work by backing it at Timestamps: 00:00 Intro by Nick Breeze 01:21 Role of philosophy in responding to climate challenges. 05:00 Tension between stemming energy and stemming population among global poorest. 07:00 Our relationship with nature. “We forget that human beings started changing nature at least ten thousand years before the Christian era.” 11:20 Manmade versus nature-based solutions. 13:50 We need to remove 8 billion tonnes of CO2 for every part per million of carbon dioxide that we want to remove from the atmosphere. 16:15 Does the precautionary principle as a term oversimplify the reality of the climate predicament or is it an apt term given there are so many vulnerable people? 20:30 Manmade interventions that create winners and losers. 25:40: Genetical engineering for greenhouse gas removal that could see 40% of our emissions removed by agriculture. Is the potential risk too unpalatable? 31:02 Are we saving the world or creating an idea of nature that fits our anthropocentric interest? Visit the main site at More on
July 06, 2021
Measuring Impact; don't know? Don't care! Margaret Kim, CEO, Gold Standard
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Gold Standard CEO, Margaret Kim. Gold Standard sets the standard for climate positive implementation of a wide range of global-scale projects. The global push to eradicate emissions means that activities and processes must be credible and effective if they are to build trust that we are on target to avert overshoot due to the billions of tonnes of human greenhouse gases emitted annually. Margaret has enormous expertise in understanding the processes that solve these issues and also the reality of what it means if we fail to deliver. Recent heatwaves and storm events are causing devastation across the world regardless of where people are located. The need for accelerated transformation of our society to one that absorbs rather than emits carbon has never been greater. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future. You can support this channel via my Patreon page or by subscribing to channels and giving feedback. There are many more episodes on the way discussing a wide range of climate issues so please stay tuned. Time Stamps: 00:00 Intro by Nick Breeze 01:30 Ensuring carbon reduction project manage negative environmental risks 03:30 Establishing public trust in the fight against greenwashing 07:20 Assessing impacts: “If you don’t know, you don’t care!” 14:00 On policy shifts: “We have seen huge movements from civil society groups, youth communities, making more progress than the 198 negotiators and governments supporting that. I really hope that COP26 shows leadership that is badly needed. 16:00 “Scope 3 emissions are key to Net Zero… but there is still a large gap…” 19:00 “We have clear science-based mile stones…. This is not something we can say is nice to have. It is a must.” More: Support this work:
July 03, 2021
Climate As A Driver Of Conflict | General Ghazi
Support this channel via or This episode features an interview with former Pakistani Defence Minister General Ghazi. I recorded this at COP25 in Madrid and am replaying here because General Ghazi identifies with great clarity, a stage process that can lead a nation or region into conflict. General Ghazi also outlines the critical role of the military as first responders, when climate extremes create society-wide suffering. The question is here, what more can we learn from experts in risk that can help us build societal resilience and promote cooperation as opposed to conflict in the face of a challenging future? General Ghazi is a member of the Global Military Advisory Council On Climate Change (GMACCC). Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future - I will be posting more in this series on ‘Preventing Human Chaos’ in the coming weeks. Please subscribe to any of the podcast channels or Youtube. You can also support this work via Patreon and do send feedback or comment on Preparing younger officers for climate-related conflicts and perturbations How water represents a huge risk to societal stability and what can be done Need for cooperation instead of conflict? Politicians lead by numbers so the military is well placed to translate risk into actionable plans? Military as first responders in climate chaos and can be prepositioned for disaster management despite the increasingly erratic nature of climate-driven impacts. The biggest concern is catastrophic conflict over resources that cross geopolitical lines. Future stresses from overpopulated urban areas to pandemics and conflicts.
July 01, 2021
The Climate Coup | Mark Alizart
View more at  Back this channel at   In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with French philosopher Mark Alizart about his new book The Climate Coup.   The Climate Coup makes for fascinating reading as Mark identifies the forces of financial and self-interest who are either actively profiting or seeking to gain power from the misery and suffering that is a result of regional and global ecological and climate disasters.  I n identifying these Carbofascists, Mark suggests there are parallels between events such as the Nazi burning of the Reichstag in 1933 and President Bolsonaro’s more recent wilful burning of the Amazon rainforest that has shocked the world.    Linking this seeming madness to the rise of populism, Mark suggests key responses that those of us interested in saving the global commons must consider if we are to win the struggle for a stable future.  The book is only 60 pages and available to buy online at the usual places. I would welcome any thoughts or feedback about The Climate Coup, so please do comment or get in touch with your thoughts.   Following this episode, I am going to post an interview I recorded at COP25 in Madrid with retired General Ghazi from Pakistan. General Ghazi was also formerly the Pakistani Defence Minister and explains how current trends of climate disruption increasing pressures on water supply, are a key indicator of future conflict in the region.   Conflict risk and human suffering are only going to increase as the world becomes hotter and resources more restricted. How we behave in the face of such pressures will be the true test of our humanity.   Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future - please subscribe on any of the podcast channels or Youtube, or if you can, support my work via Patreon.
June 22, 2021
Ecosia Search Engine Founder/CEO, Christian Kroll | Turning profits into trees
In this episode of Shaping The Future. Am speaking with Christian Kroll, founder, and CEO of Ecosia, the world’s largest not-for-profit search engine that actually uses profits to plant trees. Christian has built a true 21st-century enterprise that sees profit in terms of how much carbon they can lock up while respecting privacy and paying taxes. To paraphrase Christian: no one should be able to call themselves a billionaire until they absorb a billion tonnes of carbon from the atmosphere. Every Ad clicked on the Ecosia search engine means that trees get planted that support communities and the environment. It is a simple choice that all of us can make, to switch a daily activity, like web searching, to actually having a positive impact on the climate. Christian also talks about a growing generation of green technology innovators who are doing things differently. Forget the usual billionaires with macho space toys and start listening to the next generation who are focused on repairing the Earth and shaping a world that is actually better for all of us. Support this channel: - visit our main site: Time Stamps: 1.45 – Big versus small, Google versus Ecosia, on the eco-scale 3.30 – More users can help drive Ecosia to plant 1 trillion trees 4.30 – Tech companies have a role to play in becoming fully regenerative in terms of repairing climate – carbon neutrality was for the 1980’s! 6.30 – inspiring young people going into the workplace to be part of the transformation of society 9.05 – Tech billionaires look ridiculous in this current age. ‘If you are in the 21st Century, I think you should only be allowed to call yourself a billionaire if you have actually absorbed a billion tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere!’ 9.45 – Young entrepreneurs starting businesses that centralise the climate impact 11.55 – Overall we need to switch from focus on profit to what is important for our wellbeing and happiness – what is the new GDP that we should aim for? 14:40 – Sticking to search tools, protecting privacy and planting trees 16.00 – 80% of users under 30 and engage with Ecosia stories via social media like Instagram/Youtube 17.00 – Message to young innovators: “If people say change is hard, we have to think about what will happen if we don’t change… young people have understood [climate change]… and that is a good thing!” 20.00 – Sharing the knowledge by speaking to large corporations or any entity where change can happen on a meaningful scale. We have to do this fast or we fail.
June 18, 2021
‘Plastic – An Autobiography’ | Allison Cobb discusses facing existential threats
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I speak with the author, Allison Cobb, about her new book titled ‘Plastic - An Autobiography’. With poetic sensitivity, Allison explores the complexity of how plastic has become part of our lives and how this material, that can endure for generations, has been wilfully categorised as a ‘single use’ disposable product becoming as ubiquitous as food with a highly toxic indigestible after-life. This autobiography is also personal, linking the horrendous WW2 invasion of Poland with her ancestors who also worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory on the now infamous Manhattan Project to create the first atomic bomb. This is a story about complexity, personal journey and the plasticity of all life as we venture forth into the next big existential challenge of preventing climate and ecological collapse. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - there are many more episodes coming so please do subscribe and also consider supporting this work via Patreon. Timestamps: 1:30 - ‘I wanted to write about the Anthropocene, the geologic scale human impact on the planet, in a way that made it personal’ 3:00 Dupont, “See to it that American’s are never satisfied” - consumer capitalism has proliferated across the world. 5:20 - Heidegger’s essay ‘The Thing’ - technology reduces everything to its use-value. 7:30 The baby albatross with ingested plastic is emblematic of the disposable culture. 10:00 Complexity through personal stories that give us hope through empathy. 13:00 How are we doing in terms of the global collective tackling these huge ecological challenges. 15:00 The role of artists and creators along with every human to make the global shift. Buy on Amazon: Visit our main site: Back us on Patreon: Visit Cambridge Climate Lecture Series Page:
June 15, 2021
Russian Arctic Methane Releases & Subsea Permafrost Degradation | Professor Örjan Gustafsson (Part 2)
In this second episode of the methane miniseries, I speak to Professor Orjan Gustafsson from Stockholm University about his team's ongoing collaboration with the Russian research team, led by Professor Igor Semiletov, investigating the Siberian Arctic. Orjan has published over 80 research papers jointly with his Russian colleagues on their findings in the Russian Arctic over the course of more than a decade. In this episode, he highlights why understanding this region is among one of the most important research areas in climate change today. Despite the complexity of geopolitics that often infects peoples thinking in dealing with Russia, the opportunities for scientific collaboration in pursuit of critical knowledge can, in the long run, prove more beneficial than any short term political aims. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. More interviews and podcasts can be found on, GENN.CC and on all major podcast channels and Youtube. There are many more episodes being recorded. In fact, I am working really hard to turn them all around. Please do subscribe and all feedback is much appreciated. CONTENTS: Interview contents by Timestamp[min:sec]|Subject 00:00 Overview of research programme looking at how carbon feedback processes work. 03:50 Degradation of subsea permafrost. 07:00 Different sources of methane. 09:00 Subsea permafrost not a risk? 11:30 Quantity of thermogenic methane. 13:30 Why this matters for policy. 14:40 Defining megaseeps. 17:00 Extrapolating estimates of megaseeps. 18:38 Is there a known countervailing force? 20:30 Is policy and rate of research in the area sufficient? 21:00 Is the Russian Presidency of the Arctic Council good for research? 21:50 Why what is happening in Siberia should be considered top scientific priority. 23:45 Slope hydrate vulnerability due to Atlantification of Arctic (warm inflow of water). 26:35 Russian Presidency a good opportunity for collaboration. 26:58 Research to be published in 2021. 27:38 New open access database live - CircumArctic Shelf Carbon database, “CASCADE”. 30:45 Science as diplomacy. Support on Patreon: Visit & subscribe to
May 26, 2021
Glaciologist Dr Heidi Sevestre | Fight Hard For 1.5ºC | Have We Crossed Permafrost Threshold?
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Glaciologist, Dr Heidi Sevestre, about the changing state of the Arctic, the outlook for the Russian Chairmanship of the Arctic Council, of which Heidi herself is an advisor, and how thawing permafrost could be past the threshold of irreversibility. Heidi combines the spirit of the modern polar explorer with the weight of important scientific work. She is also an excellent communicator and will be speaking at the ChangeNow climate summit later this month in the company of Sir David Attenborough and world-renowned scientist, Johan Rockström, who will be premiering their new documentary, Breaking Boundaries, as part of the virtual summit. Heidi also gives her perspective on why we literally must fight hard to limit global average warming to 1.5ºC, giving a rare insight into how someone who wanted to be a glaciologist from a very young age actually feels about the rate of loss of the world's glaciers. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - please subscribe and share the podcast as we have many more episodes on the way exploring the change needed to avert the worst impacts of climate change. Links: More interviews and transcripts: Change Now Summit:
May 16, 2021
Arctic Methane Releases In Siberia | Professor Igor Semiletov PT 1
This can also be seen as a video edit with previously unseen footage from the last voyage in late 2020: The transcript will also be posted on and This is part 1 in series of three posts on methane releases from the East Siberian Arctic Shelf recorded in 2021.  This is the first in a miniseries discussing the ongoing work in the Russian Arctic talking to Dr Igor Semiletov, one of the lead scientists who has been studying the region for over twenty years.    Old deep thermogenic pool   In assessing whether the potential for increased climate warming is a significant risk, scientists look at the size of the carbon pool and also the origin of the methane.   In many cases where methane is produced from biogenic sources, such as animals and plants, it is created by microbes and although has the same global warming potential, it is created very slowly and is often broken down to CO2 before it reaches the atmosphere.    The other source is thermogenic methane that occurs due to the decay of organic matter at high pressure and temperature. For these conditions to occur, the sediments where they are found are older and deeper.  In terms of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, many scientists have believed that the methane emissions are from biogenic sources. This means they would be slower to form and overall a lesser risk to the global climate. This article has been created using extracts from recent interviews with Dr Semiletov. In part 2 I speak to Professor Orjan Gustafsson from the Department of Environmental Science at Stockholm University. Orjan has been visiting the East Siberian Shelf for many years working alongside an international group of scientists including the Russians. He discusses how research into the escaping methane and thawing permafrost in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf should be greatly expanded considering the magnitude and changing stability of the carbon pool. He also suggests that this research could have enormous ramifications for how carbon budgets that inform policy, are calculated.
May 12, 2021
Striving for an equitable pathway to the future | Saffran Mihnar
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with the Director of Development and Communications at EarthLanka, Saffran Mihnar. Saffran is an advocate for climate solutions focused on communication, campaigning, and policy negotiations. In this discussion, we discuss the struggles ahead for any journey towards zero or even net emissions. The UN Conference of the Parties (or COP) process is over a quarter of a century old and has achieved little by way of reducing global emissions but as a regular participant, Saffran offers a voice that speaks to people like me as to why we have to redouble our efforts and start on a real journey to try and save the global commons. A big part of this journey is about climate justice for those in the least developed and developing nations. Consumption in rich countries is currently a death sentence, first for the poorest on Earth and eventually the majority of us. We discuss why aligning our personal and human interests with those of the wider world and ecology is, in the long run, good for all of us. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future. There are many more episodes being produced so please do subscribe to be a part of the conversation. Find out more at: Also at:
May 05, 2021
Dr Wolfgang Knorr | Net Zero Is A Trap
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am talking to DR Wolfgang Knorr - a climate scientist with over 25 years working for many agencies and laboratories around the world. Currently, Wolfgang is a Senior Research Scientist at Lund University measuring CO2 fluxes from terrestrial vegetation and human activities among other things. This conversation is to discuss the concerns that he and his colleagues have about the use or misuse of the term Net Zero and their concern that collectively we are setting ourselves up for failure in tackling the climate crisis. The safest pathway to the future means a radical transformation of our societies and yet the net-zero narrative is one of incremental changes and technology that does not exist. In this critical moment when we are expected to do what is necessary, we have instead collectively chosen to ignore the risks and lock in a business-as-usual approach. A link to the article we are discussed is included here: Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - there are many more episodes coming. Please do subscribe on any major podcast channel to hear more.
April 28, 2021
Earth Day Special | Flipping Agriculture from Carbon Source to Sink
Welcome to Shaping The Future - in this special Earth Day Episode I am discussing the exciting prospect of how we can turn the global agricultural large-scale carbon source into a potential carbon sink. This would mean bringing back our soils that have lost an estimated 50 billion tonnes of carbon since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Agriculture accounts for over 20% of our global carbon footprint so this is a big subject. I am speaking to Julien Gervreau, Vice President of Sustainability at Jackson Family Wines, a company that has committed to the UN-backed pledge to Race To Zero emissions by 2050, if not then much sooner. International Wineries For Climate Action (IWCA) One business with the best intentions amounts to very little when we are talking about the scale of the climate issue. Jackson has joined forces with Familia Torres in Spain, and Symington Family Estates in Portugal as well as a growing number of other wineries committed to going beyond carbon neutral and turning agriculture green. Here we discuss how the wine industry, which amounts to only 1.8% of global agriculture, can play an important role in driving a new trend of regenerative farming that is better for the biosphere and better for us as consumers. Find out more about International Wineries For Climate Action on their website by click here: More about the podcast: Support this channel on Patreon:
April 22, 2021
Tipping Points In Antarctica’s Pine Island Glacier
Welcome to Shaping The Future. In this episode, I am speaking with Dr Sebastian Rosier about his work studying the tipping points in Antarctica’s Pine Island Glacier. Antarctica is of course absolutely huge and the Pine Island Glacier is just one part of it. If Pine Island collapsed into the ocean it would raise sea-levels by several metres which would be catastrophic for many coastal areas around the world. Sebastian discusses his view of whether we have crossed this tipping point that is part of this complex system being impacted by the billions of tonnes of carbon pollution we pump into the atmosphere each year. This all highlights that this is the decade we must get to work restoring the biosphere if we are avoid the consequences of extreme global heating. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future - subscribe to the climate series on any podcast channel or Youtube. The next episode will be on Earth Day, 22nd April, discussing how regenerative agriculture has the potential to begin restoring the estimated 50 billion tonnes of carbon lost from our soils since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Taken to scale we have the potential to flip the soils from their current carbon source to carbon sink and sequester more carbon than we currently emit annually. The UN tells us to raise our ambition, so why not start with thinking big. Visit: Visit: Visit:
April 20, 2021
Professor David Keith | Hacking The Climate
This was recorded as a collaboration between my podcast Shaping The Future, Cambridge Zero and the Cambridge Festival. Below is more information. Includes excerpt with Dr Rowan Williams, Former Archbishop of Canterbury, on his thoughts on geoengineering research. New Patreon Page: You can now support this channel via Patreon: - Patreon backers will access content earlier and much more of it. For more information on the podcast visit: Topic: Professor David Keith speaks about why solar geoengineering must be researched to see if it can secure a safe climate of 1.5ºC as a high-value benefit to humanity. David Keith: David Keith is the foremost expert on solar geoengineering in the world having been involved in research for over 30 years. As well as being an adviser to Bill Gates, he is also on the Scope Ex team that is planning to carry out preliminary research this year to test the viability of aerosol particle injection into the stratosphere to cool the Earth. This research has attracted widespread criticism from many prominent environmentalists and activists who say the unknown risks of geoengineering are too great. In this interview with climate journalist, Nick Breeze, Keith counters claims that are presented and places solar geoengineering in the context of emissions reduction and carbon dioxide removal as a viable pathway to stabilising the climate. DK: ”Carbon dioxide removal looks easier because people aren't looking seriously at who pays and what the environmental consequences are. I think now we will be starting to look at what deep emissions cuts look like, we will begin to see how hard it is going to be... Carbon Dioxide Removal is not there yet, it is not happening at large scale so it is easy to imagine this technological thing that allows us to do something in the future helps. I think the moral hazard is absolutely real." DK: ”Solar geoengineering could be effective if you put reflective aerosols in the upper atmosphere. If it was ever done, it ought to be done in a way that was very even, north to south, south to west and technically that is doable... The evidence from all climate models and from other analogues is that if one did it in combination with emissions cuts that the climate risk could be reduced in ways that they could not be reduced by emissions cuts alone." DK: ”We could, with solar geoengineering, keep temperatures under 1.5ºC with confidence and we could prevent the loss of the major ice sheets and keep the Arctic more the way it is. I think that is pretty high-value thing!"
April 04, 2021
Rupert Read discusses Philosophy Public Lecture Series 2021: Bad News is Good News? The Upside of Down
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking to philosopher, author and climate activist Professor Rupert Read. Rupert has organised the ‘Philosophy Public Lecture Series 2021: Bad News is Good News? The Upside of Down’ The series seeks to ask if there is any silver lining from the tragedy of Covid and what can be learned in the context of living through ecological break-down. Here we discuss some of the underlying themes and also what exactly is meant by the term ‘transformational adaptation’. Other participants include the author of The Great Derangement, Amitav Ghosh, as well Richard Horton, Editor of the Lancet, and Sophie Scott-Brown, Nick Brooks and Joanne Clark. To register for the series you can get tickets for free from the University of East Anglia website which I have linked to here. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future. Do subscribe on any major podcast channel to stay up to date. Event details: Tue 9 February 2021 | 18:15 - 20:15 | Online Silver Linings From the Ecological Emergency - Amitav Ghosh (Author, The Great Derangement) in conversation with Rupert Read (UEA) Tue 23 February 2021 | 18:15 - 20:15 | Online Silver Linings From the National Scandal of Covid-19 - Richard Horton (Editor of the Lancet) Tue 9 March 2021 | 18:15 - 20:15 | Online Making the Most of Our Flawed Education System, At a Time of Global Crisis - Sophie Scott-Brown (UEA) Tue 23 March 2021 | 18:15 - 20:15 | Online Can We Adapt Transformatively To Climate Decline? - Round table discussion: Nick Brooks, Joanne Clarke and Rupert Read (all UEA) UEA Registration:
January 29, 2021
Antarctic Ice Melt: A Recipe For Global Catastrophe Unless We Act Now | Professor James Renwick
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking to climate scientist Professor James Renwick, about the scale of the risks posed by the melting of the East and West Antarctic ice sheets due to human emissions from our relentless burning of fossil fuels. Sea-level rise is the most obvious impact that will destroy cities around the world but there are also other less obvious impacts on agriculture and population displacement that can also lead to conflict if we choose to continue to do nothing. James is based at Victoria University in New Zealand specialising in large-scale climate variations and was awarded the Prime Ministers Science prize by Jacinda Ardern in 2018. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future. In the next episode, I will be speaking to Philosopher Rupert Read about the University of East Anglia’s forthcoming Philosophy Public Lecture Series 2021: Bad News is Good News? The Upside of Down. Related article: More on this podcast:
January 28, 2021
COVID & Climate | mental Health Crisis Among The Most Vulnerable Needs Us To Cooperate | Saima Wazed
Welcome to Shaping Te Future - in this episode, I am talking with Saima Wazed who is one of the 25 experts advising the World Health Organisation’s panel on mental health and she is also the founder of the Not For Profit Shuchona Foundation. Recently Saima has also taken up the role of the Thematic Ambassador for the Climate Vulnerable Forum (CVF), which represents 48 countries and 1.2 billion people, who are on the frontlines of climate change. There is a widespread tendency among many of us to view the climate crisis as a future issue. Many people feel extreme anxiety about what the future holds and the lack of progress being made to change to a sustainable course. The Climate Vulnerable Forum represents countries where populations are experiencing extreme impacts today, losing loved ones, livelihoods and their homes. Saima highlights the parallels between the impact of extreme climate and the pressures that vulnerable people from all walks of life are faced with. The question we must ask is whether we can now start to use empathy as a tool to make the big leaps towards true sustainability beyond the confines of empty rhetoric? Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - we have many more interviews to follow in this all-important year. Please subscribe on your preferred channel to catch each episode. Podcast: Climate Vulnerable Forum:
January 24, 2021
Decoding NOAA’s Arctic Report Card With Contributing Climate Scientist, Dr Zack Labe
In this special inserted episode of Shaping The Future, we are discussing the 15th National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (or NOAA) Arctic Report Card that was published this week giving a detailed overview of how climate is changing the Arctic. Zack helps to break down the complexity of this annual report and highlights some of the major impacts that climate change is bringing to the polar Arctic region. With melting sea ice, extreme wildfires and the expanding population of Bowhead whales, the Arctic is a region changing before our eyes and one that has direct implications for weather patterns at lower latitudes. What is happening in the Arctic is literally the bellwether for the accelerating climate trends we see throughout the biosphere. It is also a ringing reminder for why we need to drastically cut emissions immediately and reduce atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases. Zack also gives us his personal view on whether geoengineering should be considered as part of a wider strategy for cooling or refreezing the Arctic. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - the Arctic report card is linked to in the notes below. Subscribe to the podcast on any of the main podcasting channels. Download the Arctic Report Card: Follow Zack on Twitter: @ZLabe ( More about the podcast: and follow Nick Breeze on Twitter: @NickGBreeze
December 10, 2020
Dr Jennifer Francis - Abrupt cooling in the Arctic?
In this episode of Shaping The Future, we discuss the abrupt cooling of the Arctic in the late summer months that is preventing the widely anticipated further collapse of summer sea ice, whilst intensifying heatwaves at lower latitudes. This new hypothesis was recently published by Professor Jennifer Francis from the Woodwell Climate Research Centre in Falmouth, Massachusetts and Dr Woo from Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, and Institute of Atmospheric Sciences, Fudan University, in Shanghai. It is not often anyone ever mentions negative feedback mechanisms when it comes to sea ice but this is exactly what is being suggested. Jennifer Francis has also been involved in research that links sea ice loss to changes in jet stream patterns that impact our weather in the northern hemisphere, and this work further unpicks the complexity of how the Arctic climate system interacts with the rest of the world. Thank you for listening to this podcast. In the next episode, I will be speaking with Dr Saima Wazed, who is the thematic ambassador of the Climate Vulnerable Forum representing Bangladesh. Dr Wazed discusses how extreme climate events can render people immediately vulnerable from a mental health perspective as they struggle to come to terms with the losses that these incur from livelihoods to suffering the loss of loved ones or both. A link to Dr’s Woo and Francis scientific paper is provided in the notes below. Download: Why has no new record-minimum Arctic sea-ice extent occurred since September 2012?
December 08, 2020
Will Biden’s climate plans bear fruit? - Dan Lashof, World Resources Institute US Director
In this episode of Shaping The Future, we are discussing the incoming Biden administration’s agenda on climate change and whether they can achieve it. Dan Lashof is the US Director of the World Resources Institute based in Washington and has a long history spanning decades working in environmental policy. In this interview, Dan discusses the need for an integrated action plan that tackles the pandemic, racial inequality, and the economy, with environmental policy being a key driver of change. He also outlines the damage caused by the outgoing Republican administration across over 100 environmental safeguards, while stressing that the challenge going forward will be in achieving a transformation of society within the timeframe that science tells us we have. The US is a key component in global climate action and the leadership they take now will set the pace for change going forward. The issues discussed here will be the basis of a struggle that will span the next few decades of this challenging century. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. In the next episode I am speaking to Professor Jennifer Francis about her recent research looking at Arctic sea ice and northern hemisphere warming mechanisms. Please do subscribe on the podcast on all major channels. Dan's post:
December 02, 2020
The Vatican’s head of Ecology, Father Josh, ‘Pandemic is a warning to humans’
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking to the Vatican’s head of ecology, Father Josh, who also happens to be coordinating the COVID-19 response within the Holy City. In May 2020 Pope Francis declared a year of Laudato Si, building on the work of his encyclical on climate change in order to inspire exponential change across all walks of life, including all forms of Christianity, other faiths, and like-minded people around the world. Through many advisors that make up the Pontifical academy of sciences among other advisers, church leaders are informed on climate and ecological science from some of the worlds most respected experts. Father Josh iterates the connection between nature, humanity and climate, while emphasising that the poor who have not caused this crisis are often the worst impacted and that a just response to climate change, means putting their needs at forefront of our actions. In this interview, Father Josh also reminds us that we must learn from the pandemic in order to reform our relationship with nature and live within planetary constraints. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - the next episode will feature the director of the World Resources Institute in Washington, Dan Lashof, discussing how impactful President-Elect Biden’s climate plans will likely be. Here is the link about the Laudato Si' Year and LS Action Platform (you can find the brochure in seven languages): Cambridge Climate Series & Shaping The Future:
November 27, 2020
Turning Oil Green | Wall Street Energy Analyst Dan Dicker Discusses His New Book
In this episode of Shaping The Future I am talking to Wall Street energy analyst Dan Dicker about his new book, Turning Oil Green- A market based path to renewables. Dan’s book gives us a lot of fascinating insights into how the oil markets work and how we should use the existing infrastructure of the markets and this toxic industry to literally turn oil green. Like many of the complexities around the climate crisis, pathways to progress often appear counter-intuitive at the outset. What I found revelatory in Dan’s perspective is that collapsing the oil price can destabilise nations, increase poverty and potentially derail the uptake of renewables in parts of the world where energy demand is only ever going to rise. One of the key issues around the emissions reduction and the transition to clean energy is the sheer scale of the challenge ahead. To successfully pass through the eye of this needle of opportunity and transform our world we must maximise our ability to meet these scales of enormity. Could Dan’s approach set out in his book get us some of the way there? We surely cannot at this point, take anything off the table. The book is available from Amazon and I have placed a link below. Thank you for listening to this episode of Shaping The Future. With the Pandemic causing devastating spikes in cases and deaths around the world, now could never be a more prescient time to reconsider the human journey. In the next episode, I speak to The Pope’s Coordinator of the Sector on Ecology at the Vatican, Father Joshtrum, about the pandemic, climate change and how this is the year of Laudato Si, the Pope’s encyclical on climate change. Turning Oil Green By Dan Dicker: More about The Cambridge Climate Lecture Series and Shaping The Future Podcast
November 19, 2020
Skyseed | What can fiction teach us about climate catastrophe? Interview with author, Prof. Bill McGuire
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I’m discussing the risks posed by Geoengineering in the context of averting worst-case climate change, with author Professor Bill McGuire. Bill's new book, Skyseed, is his first full length foray into writing fiction, from a distinguished career as Emeritus Professor of Geophysical & Climate Hazards at University College London as well as being one of Britain's leading volcanologists. Skyseed presents the reader with a narrative of when humanity’s failure to address the climate crisis coupled with the political failure to say no to dangerous engineering interventions are gambled to reduce the impact of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. The scenario in the book is extreme but the story itself holds together very well as an existential consideration for where we are as an intelligent species on a living planet. Reducing our carbon emissions in every aspect of life, from agriculture to transport, travel, or heating our homes, is of critical importance in trying to stabilise our climate. Without an immediate thorough rethink, the risks of climate catastrophe, either by allowing global heating to run wild or by interventions that unleash any number of unintended consequences grow greater every day. Thank you for listening to this podcast. We are recording more interviews with a wide range of experts, so please do subscribe on any of the major podcast channels or Youtube, all accessible from Buy Skyseed by Bill McGuire: Find out more about the Cambridge Climate Lecture Series:
November 09, 2020
Laptev Sea Not Refreezing & Other Arctic Climate Notes With Dr. Zack Labe
Welcome to Shaping The Future. In this episode I am speaking with Dr Zack Labe at Colorado State University’s Department of Atmospheric Science about the perilous heat trends reshaping the Arctic. Zack is very well known on social media for bringing the climate data to life, in a series of visualisations and charts that depict extremes, such as we have seen recently in the Laptev Sea where the start of the sea ice formation is yet to begin. In this discussion also we talk about improving the general publics’ overall literacy on climate change and why panicking is not the preferred course of action. This is one in a series of interviews that seeks to gain insights into how scientists consider communicating the changes in the Earth system to wider audiences in order to promote greater awareness and understanding. Thanks for listening to Shaping The Future. In the next episode, I will be speaking with Professor Bill McGuire about his new book Sky Seed. This novel tells the fictional-apocalyptic-story of a geoengineering experiment that has a chilling outcome. You can subscribe on any major channel or listen on Youtube. For more information on CCLS and this series please visit Follow Zack's live updates on Twitter: His personal website: #climatechange #climatecrisis #arcticchange #arctic #climatechangepodcast
November 04, 2020
Climate Psychology Podcast | US Election, COVID19 and Climate & Ecological Breakdown |CPA’s Adrian Tait discusses
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Adrian Tait, a founding member of the Climate Psychology Alliance, (the CPA). Adrian discusses how the linkages between events such as the US election and COVID-19 are compounding the anxiety that many people feel about the climate and ecological crisis. In particular, he discusses Through The Door, a CPA initiative that has been utilised to help create a space where people who share anxieties about climate and ecology can come together. These groups are self-sustaining and may well offer the foundations of psychological resilience needed in ever more troubled times. One key observation is that the pandemic offers insights into how a society under pressure responds. In particular, Adrian highlights how necessary it is to discern the conflicting desires between a return to a pre-COVID world founded on unsustainable principals and the opportunity to reset our value systems and gear them towards a more balanced and sustainable world. Thank you for listening to ‘Shaping The Future’ - we have more episodes covering climate science, psychology, policy among the many complexities surrounding climate change. Please do subscribe on any of our channels to stay up to date. Find out more about the Cambridge Climate Lecture Series (CCLS and Shaping The Future Podcast Find out more about the CPA: Shaping The Future is now ranked in the Top 3 of Feedspot's Global Climate Change Podcast List
November 02, 2020
Rabbi Yonatan Neril | New Book EcoBible | Spiritual Beings In A physical World
Welcome to Shaping The Future - In this episode, I am speaking to Rabbi Yonatan Neril in Jerusalem about his newly co-authored Eco-Bible, a book that reaches back through more than 2000 years of religious texts. At a time when religion in the US is being politicised and views are expressed about Gods will in consuming the Earth, Eco Bible uses 450 identified texts that clearly demonstrate the role religious teachings have had in promoting stewardship of the Earth. It has been my experience on numerous occasions of climate reporting that these underlying teachings exist across the multiple schools of faith that exist on the planet, from Christianity to Judaism, Islam and far far beyond. With 6 billion humans today identifying with some form of religion, what Yonatan has to say about our existence as spiritual beings in a physical world, carries a lot of weight. Thanks for listening to the Shaping The Future series. There are more podcasts being edited as we speak as we delve deeper into learning to live with and respond to the climate crisis. Please subscribe on any preferred channel to stay up to date. Eco Bible shows how the Bible and its great scholars embrace care for God's creation as a fundamental and living message. It is co-authored by Rabbi Yonatan Neril, who founded and directs The Interfaith Center for Sustainable Development (ICSD), and Rabbi Leo Dee. who directed ICSD's faith and ecology programs, and graduated from Cambridge with a Masters in Engineering. Purchase EcoBible on Amazon: More about Cambridge Climate Lecture Series and Shaping The Future:
October 29, 2020
Food & Climate Change Without The Hot Air - Prof Sarah Bridle discusses
Welcome to Shaping The Future - in this episode, I am speaking with scientist and author, Professor Sarah Bridle, about her recently published book, ‘Food & Climate Change Without The Hot Air’ - Sarah’s book provides an invaluable perspective on the reality-versus-perception of the impact on climate change that our diet actually has. Sarah not only gives examples of how misleading, ideals about food buying, preparation and consumption can be, she also explains how the UK government (and I suspect many others) could implement policies that would please local food producers, whilst bolstering public support and reducing climate emissions, all at the same time. We are what we eat and our diets must be as sustainable as every other component of modern life. Sarah’s book is based on hard science but really does belong in the kitchen with all of our other reference books. It’s available from all major retailers and the Ebook is actually a subsidised free download so there is no excuse for not digesting this important work. Thank for listening to the podcast - please do subscribe on any of the major channels - we have plenty more interviews on the way and all of them have something positive to say around the discussion of how we shape a better future. Note again that the Kindle edition is free:
October 25, 2020
How We Can Use Meteorology as a tool for a safer future and save vulnerable lives in the face of climate change
Welcome to Shaping The Future - in this episode, I am talking with meteorologist Scott Duncan, about how weather data is used to inform both the public and the organisations we rely on to insure us against the worst of life’s low-probability high-impact events.. We also discuss the recent Storm Alex that struck parts of western and southern Europe, in the context of frequency & extremity, as well as how the findings of meteorology can be used to alert those people who are in the path of future storms. It can be easy to exist in a bubble of climate communications and forget that the vast majority of people have no idea of why and what we should be doing to prepare for and prevent the worst of future impacts. The climate crisis means that many parts of the world will become uninsurable and this could be more closer to home than we think. Greater literacy in critical weather and climate science will help forge a better dialogue between people who are going to be impacted and the companies that realise future insurance is no longer viable. I have added the links in notes so that you can follow Scott on Twitter and Instagram. Thank you for listening - please do subscribe to Shaping The Future on any of the major podcast channels, or you can also listen on Youtube. The next interview in the series will be with author Professor Sarah Bridle at the University of Manchester about her recent book ‘Food and Climate Change Without The Hot Air’ - a really worthwhile source of information for anyone interested in the links between food and climate emissions. Follow Scott Duncan on Twitter here: @ScottDuncanwx Follow Scott Duncan on Instagram here: @scottduncanwx Find out more about Climate Series and the Shaping The Future Podcast here:
October 20, 2020
ICOS: a system that spots collapsing carbon sinks & is a vital tool for our future
Welcome to Shaping The Future and in this episode, I am talking to the Secretary-General of ICOS - The Integrated Carbon Observation System, Dr. habil. Werner L. Kutsch. ICOS is a network of ocean and ground-based carbon monitoring stations that is giving us a wide spread of open-source scientific data, expanding our understanding of our changing environment. Werner talks about how ICOS data can explain the collapse of a carbon sink from summer drought, as much as it can lead us towards cleaner air in cities and resilience to the climate impacts coming our way. Also in the making,  is a global system measuring & analysing atmospheric gases, that will, politics permitting, progress humanity towards a future that benefits all living creatures within the biosphere. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future - our mission is to be as informed as we possibly can, to overcome the challenges wrought by human existence to date. There are many more interviews in the pipeline, please subscribe and share to stay up to date. Find out more about ICOS: Shaping The Future is hosted by Nick Breeze as part of the Cambridge Climate Lecture Series.
October 15, 2020
The Climate App | A new innovation for the people, by the people
Doing our bit to avert the very worst of climate change means going beyond nodding along in agreement with those who are sounding the alarm about the dangers we all face from pumping hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon pollution into the atmosphere. It means we individually and collectively have to make drastic changes in our lives to reduce carbon emissions to beyond zero. How many of us cast our guilt into the recesses and shadows of the mind as we book that next flight, or order one more juicy beef steak that we lament is becoming harder to conscience? A new initiative, The Climate App, is currently in development and aims to help all of us reduce our carbon consumption by socialising and gamifying the task of adjusting our lifestyles for the greater good. There is much more to the Climate App than this and so in this special episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with project founder Sam Naef about who they are, what they need and when we can expect to participate in this unique effort to help mainstream positive climate action. Please support the Indiegogo campaign to make the Climate App a reality and affirm our willingness to try everything possible to shape a better future. Full URL to help fund this project: Full Climate App URL: My URL for Shaping The Future Podcast:
October 08, 2020
Professor Peter Wadhams | Climate Vaccines, Carbon Removal & COVID-19 Go Exponential
Welcome to Shaping The Future - this interview is with author and Cambridge polar ice scientist Professor Peter Wadhams. WE discuss the common exponential factors that exist between the COVID-19 pandemic and in the positive feedbacks of the changing climate system. WE also discuss the urgent need for carbon drawdown or greenhouse gas removal as it also known, to tackle the excess burden of 1 trillion tonnes of pollution that humanity has pumped into the biosphere. Professor Wadhams is a leading authority on polar ice climate and is currently guest lecturing in Turin Polytechnic in Italy. This interview was recorded in May 2020 during the lockdown but has relevant input from Peter about how we must consider action to shape a better future. Thanks for listening to this podcast series. We have many more interviews being recorded, discussing the most pressing challenges that humanity faces regarding our own survival. Subscribe on any major podcast channel or on Youtube to stay up to date.
September 24, 2020
Sir Jonathan Porritt discusses his new climate change book, Hope In Hell
Welcome to Shaping The Future - this week I am speaking with long-term environmental campaigner and author, Sir Jonathon Porritt, about his new book ‘Hope In Hell’. I urge anyone looking for a comprehensive overview of the multifaceted subject of climate change, to read this excellent piece of work. The book covers the science, policy, policy obstructions, as well as current and future challenges and the impact on the human psyche that we see emerging as a result. In this interview, Sir Jonathon discusses the limits of the Paris Agreement and its roadmap of unbinding incremental change. By its design it allows governments to play loose with their Nationally Determined Contribution to reducing carbon emissions. He also discusses the perilous threat of melting polar ice-caps and glaciers that we are now watching in real-time. In the midst of political ineptness, Jonathon has one final suggestion for how we can each take action in our own ways and in our own lives. Thank you for listening to Shaping The Future. There are many more podcasts in the pipeline so please do subscribe on any major podcast channel or on Youtube.
September 17, 2020
University Of Cambridge’s Hugh Hunt On Geoengineering The Arctic: ‘crazy ideas have potential’
“Surely if you are going to be intervening with some risk in something where the risk is greater if you don’t intervene then let’s research the intervention!” Welcome to this episode of Shaping The Future - From Pandemic to Climate Change. In this episode, I am speaking with Cambridge University’s Dr Hugh Hunt who is also working as part of the Centre For Climate Repair In Cambridge looking at ways to repair the climate. Hugh makes the point that the risks of Geoengineering are less than the impacts from climate tipping points that we are facing if we don’t do it.  He also gives us an overview of the Centre For Climate Repair set-up by former UK Chief Government scientist, Sir David King, and discusses why funding on a scale to meet the enormity of the climate crisis means unconventional sources maybe be necessary. The paper that this interview is based on coauthored by Hugh Hunt and Dan Bodansky can be downloaded free here: Thanks for listening to the podcast. Find out more here:
September 09, 2020
Extinction Rebellion Cofounder Gail Bradbrook | It's Time For Autumn Rebellion
In this episode of Shaping The Future, I am speaking with Gail Bradbrook, environmental activist and co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, as the Autumn rebellion gains momentum in major cities across the UK.  Gail talks about the XR demands for this rebellion and the power of activism for the individual and how that can lead to systemic change at the societal level.   We finish discussing the potential for a global citizens assembly to be held in parallel during next years UN climate conference, COP26, that will be hosted in November in the UK.   Thanks for listening, this podcast is available on all major podcasting channels and on Youtube. All the links are on Follow on Twitter: Find out More at 
September 02, 2020
Climate Scientist & Author Peter Kalmus speaks out
In this episode, I interview NASA climate scientist and author, Peter Kalmus, about the extreme fires in California and Hurricane Laura that struck Louisiana.   Peter talks about the underlying drivers of these frightening impacts that stem from our collective addiction to burning fossil fuels.  He also talks very personally about his conscious decision to speak out about how terrified he is with regard to the worsening climate breakdown.    Thanks for listening.  
August 29, 2020
How Big data is a vital resilience tool in responding to in creased frequency & intensity of climate impacts
Welcome to Shaping The Future - In this episode, I am talking to Kontur CEO Arben Kane about How Big data is a vital resilience tool in responding to increased frequency and intensity of climate impacts. Kontur was born out of a research project at the Office of Naval Research (ONR) in the US and is still evolving new perspectives for viewing information that can enhance how we live on Earth at a time when the viability of life itself is being called into question from Climate Change. Arben and his team have been involved in mapping huge global disasters from earthquakes and hurricanes, with their work building the Pacific Disaster Centre, to more recently the spread of COVID-19 across the communities that span the globe. Arben talks about how big data is a vital tool that when used correctly can be a huge asset to humanity and how his team are aiming to get around manipulation and security breaches by utilising distributed ledger technology among many other innovations. There are many more episodes of the podcast being produced so please do subscribe on any of the main podcasting channels. Thanks for listening. Visit the podcast website:
August 22, 2020
Climate Psychologist Dr. Renée Lertzman - Principals for attuned thinking in a time of crisis
Welcome to Shaping The Future - from pandemic to climate change and in this episode I am speaking with Dr. Renée Lertzman, a pioneer in bridging the gap between human psychology and the environmental and climate crisis. Renée talks here about how climate professionals can become better leaders and show guidance by becoming attuned to those whom we engage with. Renée also offers a set of principals developed as a tool-set for psychological survival at a period in time when uncertainty about the future can lead to existential anxiety. Of course, this is also a time of opportunity, when radical new thinking can shape a vastly better future than the current horizon suggests. Thanks for listening and please subscribe to the podcast to hear more in this series. Dr Renée Lertzman's website.
August 13, 2020
Rupert Read discusses new book- Extinction Rebellion: Insights From The Inside
Welcome to Shaping The Future - from pandemic to climate change (More info on the podcast series: Cambridge Climate Lecture Series website here) In this episode, I am speaking with Philosopher and prominent Extinction Rebellion spokesperson, Dr Rupert Read, about his new booked titled, ‘Extinction rebellion: Insights from the inside’. This is a collection of works, including essays, interviews, and internal XR memos, reflecting Rupert’s thoughts on what has been and what next for XR. We discuss key concepts in the book including, how critical this time we are in right now is, and, how each one of us, as individuals and in collective groupings, can find agency to make a difference amid complex and disturbing times. A link to purchase the book is here and proceeds from the book will be donated to Extinction Rebellion. Thanks for listening.
August 02, 2020
Warm Holes & Cold Blobs in the North Atlantic due to climate change
Welcome to Shaping the Future. In this episode, I am talking to Paul Keil who is a PhD candidate at the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology about the mysterious cold blob in the northern Atlantic Ocean. This cold blob appears conspicuously on global temperature anomaly charts located south of Greenland. It is currently the focus of a lot of research looking at the mechanisms that contribute to climate change and how these are being impacted by the billions of tonnes of CO2 we add annually to the atmosphere. I have also added links below to two recent articles posted by the Carbon Brief and Mashable that look at Paul and his colleagues' research in more detail. Visit for more information on Shaping The Future podcast.
July 23, 2020
Climate computing with Met Office Chief, Prof. Penny Endersby
In this interview, I am speaking to Professor Penny Endersby, the Chief Executive Officer of the UK’s Met Office who is in charge of one of the most important climate change modelling computers in the world. Penny takes us inside the climate model and reflects on the hard truths that the data outputs are telling us. It is worth listening to Penny talk us through the Earth system simulator the UK has developed to navigate us through what is currently an undecided and uncertain future. Quotes: "...we can say, ‘this thing you might have seen once every 200 years in preindustrial times you are now going to see once in 50 years’, which I think was roughly the frequency for the Australian wildfires as we are at the moment, and in the future you are going to see them once in 10 or once in 5 years, depending on the particular emissions pathway." " headline message to anybody is, the faster we can undertake the mitigation, the better it will be and if we can’t hit 1.5ºC we still want to hit 2ºC and 2 is better than 3 and 3 is better than 4! So we should try and the time for action is now. It is urgent to do something."
July 10, 2020
Professor Jason Box - Greenland and the climate system
Prof. Jason Box: "It's not too hyperbolic to talk about Mad Max!" Welcome to Shaping The Future Podcast. In this episode, I am speaking to Professor Jason Box at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland. We are discussing how the colossal Greenland ice sheet is changing as the Earth warms and what impact this will have on the global climate system. So much of Jason’s work bridges the void between climate science in obscure corners of the planet, and the risks posed by pollution from industry, as well as how we in wealthier countries conduct our lives. Shaping the future means envisioning the world we want and committing to a pathway to achieve it. In that vane, we end this discussion by considering the social movements that are emerging as part of the growing awareness of the necessity to change. Thank you for listening, please do subscribe on whatever podcast channel you use to hear more forthcoming episodes.
June 12, 2020
Prof. Kevin Anderson - Climate action failure, equality and the climate crisis
Welcome to Shaping The Future climate change podcast - In this episode, I speak with Professor Kevin Anderson who is Deputy Director of the UK’s Tyndale Centre for climate change research, he is also a part-time professor at the University of Uppsala in Sweden and even squeezes in a day a week at a university in Norway. In this episode, we discuss who are the culprits of climate action failure, how coronavirus has shown us we are all equal in society and how solving current inequality is an essential component of solving the climate crisis. In picking these complex topics apart, we discuss the evolving role of civil society and climate activism by academics that is actually reinforcing the status quo and committing us to fail on our Paris commitments. Kevin, like Katharine Hayhoe in the previous episode, highlights the job losses and those suffering in industries that are high polluting but nonetheless provide incomes for families. In terms of post-lockdown, Kevin emphasises that it is a choice whether we go back to high emitting business as usual. Importantly Kevin is not confident that we can hold the temperature rise to 1.5ºC and that it would require serious mitigation efforts combined with effective carbon drawdown technologies (that do not currently exist) in order to achieve it. Most of all we have to take on board that change in society required to meet these emission reduction challenges are only needed by the top ten per cent. The majority of people are not emitting high amounts of carbon. This again feeds into the need for an agenda of equality and a new narrative of fairness that perhaps the pandemic can make us more aware of. In the next episode in the series, I will be speaking to Professor Jason Box from the Geological Survey of Denmark. Jason is a Greenland ice sheet expert and is going to share his insights into the changes happening in Greenland and the impact this could have on the overall climate system. You can also follow Nick Breeze on Twitter here: @NickGBreeze
May 29, 2020
Prof. Katharine Hayhoe - COVID & Climate Linkages To A Better World
Professor Katharine Hayhoe is well-known the world over for her clear communications on the risks posed by climate change and why these risks and can be addressed in a non-political and non-partisan way. Katharine is an atmospheric scientist, the Political Science Endowed Professor in Public Policy and Public Law at Texas Tech University in the US and directs their Climate Center. Life on Zoom In the period of lockdown, Katharine discusses how technology has played a critical role human interactions, from the emotional experience of her grandmother's death to more passive interactions such as knitting or just staying in touch with family and friends. This all leads her to rename social distancing so it becomes physical distancing with social connectivity. COVID-19 and carbon emissions There is much talk about how the pandemic is good for the environment but, as Katharine points out, this has to be taken in context. Because we are not pumping out so much pollution as normal, we are still adding to the atmospheric burden of greenhouse gases. Air quality linked to human suffering Another linkage from the pandemic pause is the cleaner air that has been a tangible benefit of reducing nearly all transport to a small fraction of what it was before. Low-balling climate change Climate scientists have always produced scenarios based on different estimates of outcomes from climate forcing and Earth system sensitivity. Katharine explains how typically scientists have been low-balling the speed and severity of climate change. The 3 choices that humanity has to select from are mitigation, adaptation, or suffering. It turns out we will likely be forced to select all three but the balance of each is still up to us. Katharine gives her view on how this current crisis informs us to best face the future. Climate change and politics In the US and UK especially, climate change has been forced into a political framing in order to try and make conservatives think that the threat is not real or very serious. Now, with impacts so tangibly in our faces, from the loss of the polar ice caps and ice sheets like in Greenland, or the fires in the Amazon, Australia among many other places, people are realising this is real and anxiety about the future is commonplace. What can we do about it? The world won’t end in 2030 There is an emerging narrative that if the world does not decarbonise by 2030 then we will experience the apocalypse. Katharine Hayhoe discusses the importance of having a vision of the future that balances the reality of climate change with the outcome that we want to see and that we can collectively and individually work towards. Collapsing oil, personal suffering and policy Katharine discusses how the collapse of the oil price is impacting thousands of people in the oil industry who are losing their jobs and facing financial hardship in a very uncertain time. These are not bad people but rather a part of our society who are trying to support their families. What can we do to help them transition to new sectors? Despite this, lobbyists for oil-producing regions like Alberta in Canada are trying to roll back environmental taxes aimed at starting the transition to clean energy. Katharine explains why carbon taxes are still part of the solution, perhaps more so than ever before. Official webpage:
May 26, 2020