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Open Div Podcast

By Casey Rosengren
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Rewilding Ep. 12 - Spiritual Reparations and the Nature Gods of Regla de Ocha Ifá
Nadia Milad Issa (they/them) is a scholar-practitioner, dance educator, and an Iyalochá—a fully initiated high priestess of Regla de Ocha-Ifá. They graduated from Harvard Divinity School with a Masters of Theological Studies and is starting their PhD. at UT Austin with a focus on spiritual reparations. A lifelong dancer and member of a Haitian Contemporary Dance Company, Nadia fuses art and activism and focuses their studies on Afrikan-derived traditions in the Afro-Caribbean diaspora, particularly Afro-Cuban and Afro-Brazilian traditions of Regla de Ocha-Ifá, Candomblé, and Umbanda. In this episode, Nadia and Daniel discuss: - Spiritual reparations, what that is, and what it might look like - The misrepresentation of and prejudice against their tradition, Regla de Ocha-Ifá, popularly known as “Santería” - Relating to trees or bodies of water as the literal bodies of divinity And much more!
July 26, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 11 - The Wild Christ
In this episode, Brian and Daniel discuss: Rethinking the archetype of Jesus Christ How to bring Christians and Christianity in touch with nature again Wilderness guiding and soul encounter And much more.
July 26, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 10 - Wilderness Fasting for Soul Encounter
In this interview, Emerald and Daniel discuss: How she leads groups into the wilderness to fast Soul encounter in the wild Entering nature as a sacred space And much more.
July 26, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 9 - From the Prison Cell to the Campfire
Raul Espinoza is an activist and Life Coach with 12 years of experience. Raul has traveled over 40 countries worldwide consulting and storytelling for conscious brands/impactors who are helping their communities thrive. In this episode, Raul and Daniel discuss: How All Kings provides men exiting the justice system in New York City access to transformative, healthy initiation and healing Nature as a space of healing and transformation And much more.
July 19, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 8 - Archetypes of Healthy Masculine Initiation
Boysen is the author of “The New Macho,” a 21st century credo for the mature masculine, and a co-creator of MKP’s “The Men’s Work” 3-week course. He’s on a mission to transform culture; with nearly two decades experience nurturing emotionally grounded, accountable, and purpose driven men. In this episode, Boyson and Daniel discuss: Why we need positive examples of masculinity right now The Mankind Project as one space for transformative men’s work Nature as a traditional space of initiation from boyhood into manhood And much more.
July 19, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 7 - Stewarding Land Sanctuaries by and for POC
Rebeka Ndosi is the founder of Maji ya Chai Land Sanctuary. She is a healer, teacher, public speaker and community coach dedicated to serving youth of color and their support systems, including the adults in their lives. In this interview, Rebeka and Daniel discuss: Nature as an automatic place for healing and relaxation The pervasive stress and anxiety of being a POC The need for Black- and indigenous-owned land sanctuaries for rest and rejuvenation And much more.
July 19, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 5 - Sacred Indian Dance as Embodied Philosophy
Padma Menon is a pioneer in reviving the ancient practice of dance contemplation. She helps those seeking to reclaim their sacred selves by sharing her lifetime’s knowledge in sacred Indian dance, philosophy and ritual. In this interview, Padma and Daniel discuss: How Padma teaches people to channel the archetype of the goddess through traditional Indian dance How dance and movement can be considered a form of embodied knowledge The ineffable and consciousness-shifting quality of dance And much more.
July 12, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 4 - Nature-Based Rituals for Loss & Change
Day Schildkret is an award-winning queer author, artist, ritualist, teacher and is internationally known for Morning Altars, a practice in nature, art and ritual. In this interview, Day and Daniel discuss: Day’s new book: “Hello, Goodbye: 75 Rituals for Times of Loss, Celebration, and Change” The practice of creating morning altars out of natural material And much more.
July 12, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 6 - Judaism’s Forgotten Folk and Feminine Nature-Rites
Rabbi Hammer is an author, educator, midrashist, and ritualist committed to an earth-based and wildly mythic view of the world in which nature, ritual, and story connect us to the body of the cosmos and to ourselves. She is the co-founder of Kohenet Institute and the Director of Spiritual Education at the Academy for Jewish Religion. In this interview, Jill and Daniel discuss: Lost folk traditions of Judaism The role of women in traditional Jewish ritual Reclaiming Jewish nature-rites And much more.
July 11, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 3 - Becoming Yourself in a Troubled World
Michael J. Meade is a storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He’s the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation and the author of Awakening the Soul, The Genius Myth, and other works. In this episode, Michael and Daniel discuss: How our childhood coping strategies inform the way we respond to stress as adults. How to find our unique calling in life How to “suffer in the right direction” to make our suffering meaningful And much more.
July 05, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 2 - Fighting Environmental Racism 101
Dr. Ingrid Waldron is a professor at McMaster University whose research and advocacy focus on environmental racism, climate justice, mental illness, and the structural and environmental determinants of health disparities in Black, Indigenous, immigrant and refugee communities. She is the author of There’s Something in the Water: Environmental Racism in Indigenous & Black Communities, and co-produced the 2019 Netflix documentary of the same name. In this episode, Ingrid and Daniel discuss: Preventing burnout while campaigning for environmental change Environmental racism, what it is and how it works Stories of communities that fought back (and eventually won) against industrial pollution in their communities And much more.
July 05, 2022
Rewilding Ep. 1 - We Were All Indigenous Once
Tyson Yunkaporta is a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne and member of the Apalech Clan. He is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World. In this episode, Tyson and Daniel discuss: Can indigenous ways of knowing change our way of thinking? Are cities, and the societies that build them, fundamentally unsustainable? How can non-native people reconnect to the land and their indigeneity? And much more.
July 05, 2022
Artist Interview with Jay Stolar
Join us for a conversation with Jay Stolar, a songwriter and producer known for developing signature sounds for artists in multiple genres. In the 2 years since he shifted his main focus from being an artist to a writer/producer his songs have amassed over 200 million streams and been recorded by artists ranging from Selena Gomez to John Legend.
February 28, 2021
Rationalism and Re-Enchantment with Daniel Shkolnik and Casey Rosengren
Join us for a conversation on rationalism and re-enchantment with Daniel Shkolnik, a Humanist speaker, community organizer and host of the Re-Enchantment podcast, and Casey Rosengren.
February 28, 2021
The Psychedelic Peer Support Line & Why We Need It with Hanifa Nayo Washington
Join us for a conversation on the psychedelic peer support line & why we need it with Hanifa Nayo Washington, award winning cultural artivist and the Cultivator of Beloved Community for the Fireside Project, which aims to help people fulfill the potential of their psychedelic experiences by providing compassionate, accessible, and culturally responsive peer support, educating the public, and furthering psychedelic research.
February 28, 2021
Reimagining the Role of Religion in a Changing World with Elan Babchuck
Join us for a conversation on reimagining the role of religion in a changing world with Elan Babchuck, Founding Director of Glean Network, an incubator and network for entrepreneurs who are building new models of faith in action, and Director of Innovation at Clal, a think-tank focused on the future of faith in America.
February 28, 2021
Prosocial Spirituality with Jeff Genung
Join us for a conversation on prosocial spirituality with Jeff Genung, co-founder of Contemplative Life, a non-profit organization that connects people and communities with transformative practices, and co-founder of, an experiential practice network.
February 28, 2021
Wisdom for Rebels with David Fuller
Join us for a conversation on wisdom for rebels with David Fuller, a multi-skilled journalist, filmmaker and the founder of Rebel Wisdom, a platform to make highly complex ideas accessible to as many people as possible.
February 28, 2021
The State of Religion and Young People with Dr. Josh Packard
Join us for a conversation on the state of religion and young people with Dr. Josh Packard, Executive Director of Springtide Research Institute, accomplished researcher and academic with an expertise in the sociology of religion and new forms of religious expression.
February 28, 2021
Contemplative Spirituality for the 21st Century with Fr. Adam Bucko
Join us for a conversation on contemplative spirituality for the 21st century with Fr. Adam Bucko, director of The Center for Spiritual Imagination at the Episcopal Cathedral of the Incarnation in Garden City, NY and member of The Community of the Incarnation, a "new monastic” community dedicated to democratizing the gifts of monastic spirituality and teaching contemplative spirituality in the context of hearing and responding to the cry of the poor and the cry of the earth.
February 28, 2021
How to Create Equitable Spiritual Spaces with Christian Watkins
Join us for a conversation on how to create equitable spiritual spaces with Christian Watkins, Associate Minister in the United Church of Christ in Connecticut and a Global Co-Missioner with Global Ministries in Istanbul, Turkey.
February 28, 2021
Monasteries 2.0 with Tasshin Fogleman
Join us for a conversation on monasteries 2.0 with Tasshin Fogleman, a resident at the Monastic Academy in Vermont.
February 28, 2021
Religion, Conflict and Values with Drew Rau
Join us for a conversation on religion, conflict and values with Drew Rau, writer, theologian, teacher, and spiritual entrepreneur.
February 28, 2021
ACT for Clergy and Pastoral Counselors with Dr. Jason Nieuwsma
Join us for a conversation on ACT for clergy and pastoral counselors with Dr. Jason Nieuwsma, a clinical psychologist who is an Associate Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Duke University Medical Center and who serves as the Associate Director for VA Mental Health and Chaplaincy.
February 28, 2021
Technology, Psychedelics, and the Future of Religion with Erik Davis
Join us for a conversation on technology, psychedelics, and the future of religion with Erik Davis, an author, independent scholar, podcaster and teacher based in San Francisco.
February 28, 2021
Reimagining Modern-day Jewish Life with Daniel Libenson
Join us for a conversation on reimagining modern-day Jewish life with Daniel Libenson, founder and president of the Institute for the Next Jewish Future and co-host of the Judaism Unbound podcast.
February 28, 2021
How to Revive Pilgrimage with Guy Hayward
Join us for a conversation on how to revive pilgrimage with Guy Hayward, co-founder of the British Pilgrimage Trust (, who leads guided pilgrimages around Britain.
February 28, 2021
The Formation of Lay Chaplains with Arelis Benítez
Join us for a conversation on the formation of lay chaplains with Arelis Benítez, a graduate student in Religion, Psychology, and Culture at Vanderbilt University.
February 28, 2021
Building One Spirit Interfaith Seminary with Rev. Diane Berke
Join us for a conversation on building One Spirit Interfaith Seminary with Rev. Diane Berke, the Founder and Spiritual Director of One Spirit Learning Alliance.
February 28, 2021
Financial Models of Spiritual Community with Elan Babchuck
Join us for a conversation on financial models of spiritual community with Elan Babchuck, Founding Director of Glean Network, an incubator and network for entrepreneurs who are building new models of faith in action, and Director of Innovation at Clal, a think-tank focused on the future of faith in America.
February 27, 2021
Storytelling and Organizing with Marshall Ganz
Join us for a conversation on storytelling and organizing with Marshall Ganz, the Rita E. Hauser Senior Lecturer in Leadership, Organizing, and Civil Society at the Kennedy School of Government, where he teaches, researches, and writes on leadership, organization, and strategy in social movements, civic associations, and politics.
February 27, 2021
Zen Buddhism and Religious Violence with Brian Victoria
Join us for a conversation on Zen Buddhism and religious violence with Brian Victoria, who holds a M.A. in Buddhist Studies from Sōtō Zen sect-affiliated Komazawa University in Tokyo, and a Ph.D. from the Department of Religious Studies at Temple University.
February 27, 2021
Building the Sacred Design Lab with Casper ter Kuile
Join us for a conversation on building the Sacred Design Lab with Casper ter Kuile, co-founder of Sacred Design Lab, a co-host of the podcast Harry Potter and the Sacred Text and a Ministry Innovation Fellow at Harvard Divinity School.
February 27, 2021
Spiritual Direction for the Non-Religious with Sarah Cledwyn
Join us for a conversation on spiritual direction for the non-religious with Sarah Cledwyn, a spiritual guide and healer who holds a Master of Arts in Theology and a Certificate in Spiritual Direction from St. Catherine University.
February 27, 2021
Spiritual and Religious Coping in the Non-religious with Julie Exline
Join us for a conversation on spiritual and religious coping in the non-religious with Julie Exline, Professor in the Department of Psychological Sciences at Case Western Reserve University.
February 27, 2021
Nuns, Nones, and Modern Day Expressions of Benedictine Spirituality with Katie Gordon
Join us for a conversation on nuns, nones, and modern day expressions of Benedictine spirituality with Katie Gordon, co-founder, national organizer, and network weaver with Nuns & Nones, a collaboration between Catholic Sisters and spiritually diverse millennials that seeks to create communities of care, contemplation, and courageous action.
February 27, 2021
Journaling as a Spiritual Practice with Christina Baldwin
Join us for a conversation on journaling as a spiritual practice with Christina Baldwin, a writer and seminar presenter of 30+ years experience. She has contributed two classic books to the renaissance of personal writing, including the well-known classic, Life's Companion, Journal Writing as a Spiritual Practice, revised and reissued in 2007 after 100,000 original sales.
February 27, 2021
After World Religions with Chris Cotter
Join us for a conversation on religious studies after "world religions" with Chris Cotter, a Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Chester, and IASH-CTPI Duncan Forrester Research Fellow at the University of Edinburgh.
February 27, 2021
The Story of the Nomadic School of Wonder with Barbara Groth
Join us for a conversation on the story of The Nomadic School of Wonder with Barbara Groth, founder and creative director of the Nomadic School of Wonder, who also handles Experience Design for the immersive art project known as Meow Wolf in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
February 27, 2021
Chaplaincy for Spiritual Rebels with Rev. Sarah Bowen
Join us for a conversation on chaplaincy for spiritual rebels with Rev. Sarah Bowen, an interfaith/interspiritual minister serving on the academic staff of One Spirit Interfaith Seminary in New York City, where she teaches both interspecies and 12-step spirituality.
February 27, 2021
Nontheistic Sanctification with Gina Magyar-Russell
Join us for a conversation on nontheistic sanctification with Gina Magyar-Russell, a licensed psychologist in Maryland who specializes in psychological and spiritual adjustment following adverse life events, with emphasis on the treatment of anxiety, mood, and spiritual problems.
February 27, 2021
Attention Collections with Anthony Garcia
Join us for a conversation on attention collections with Anthony Garcia, a writer, storyteller, and gifted public speaker.
February 27, 2021
The Sunday Assembly with Josh Bullock
Join us for a conversation on the Sunday Assembly with Josh Bullock, a criminology and sociology lecturer at Kingston University, London who did his thesis on Sunday Assembly.
February 27, 2021
Faith & Crossfit with Alexander Darius Ornella
Join us for a conversation on faith and Crossfit with Alexander Darius Ornella, who holds a PhD in Theology (Dr. theol.) and a Master in Theology (Mag. theol.) from the University of Graz, Austria.
February 27, 2021
The Future of Belonging with Vanessa Mason
Join us for a conversation on the future of belonging with Vanessa Mason, the research director at the Institute for the Future, a 52 year old nonprofit organization that helps individuals, organizations and communities think systematically about the future.
February 27, 2021
Finding Your Path Outside Tradition with Jillian Richardson
Join us for a conversation on finding your path outside tradition with Jillian Richardson, a writer and coach, teaching people how to connect more deeply with themselves and others.
February 27, 2021
ACT, Spirituality and Cultivating Prosociality with Steven C. Hayes
Join us for a conversation on ACT, spirituality and cultivating prosociality with Steven C. Hayes, a Nevada Foundation Professor in the Behavior Analysis program at the Department of Psychology at the University of Nevada.
February 27, 2021
Belonging and Culturally Sensitive Spiritual Practice with Sebene Selassie
Join us for a conversation on belonging and culturally sensitive spiritual practice with Sebene Selassie, a teacher, author and speaker who explores the themes of belonging and identity through meditation, creativity and spirituality.
February 26, 2021
Spirit Tech with Wesley J. Wildman
Join us for a conversation on spirit tech with Wesley J. Wildman, a Professor of Philosophy, Theology, and Ethics and Professor in the Faculty of Computing and Data Sciences at Boston University.
February 26, 2021
Formation in Small Groups with Angie Thurston
Join us for a conversation with Angie Thurston, co-founder of Sacred Design Lab and a Ministry Innovation Fellow at Harvard Divinity School.
February 26, 2021
Purpose Driven Campaigning with Nick Moraitis
Join us for a conversation with Nick Moraitis, CEO at the Foundation for Young Australians, Australia's leading philanthropic organisation dedicated to young people's social action.
February 26, 2021
Community and Tech, Community and Healing with Serena Bian
Join us for a conversation with Serena Bian, a community builder and strategist, building social healing across America.
February 26, 2021
Experience Design for Transformation with Ayden LeRoux and Abraham Burickson
Join us for a conversation with Abraham Burickson, the co-founder and Artistic Director of Odyssey Works, an interdisciplinary performance group that makes bespoke performances for one-person audiences, and Ayden LeRoux, the Assistant Director of Odyssey Works and the author of two books related to their work, Isolation and Amazement (Samsara Press, 2013), and Odyssey Works: Transformative Experiences for an Audience of One (Princeton Architectural Press, 2016) co-authored with Burickson.
February 26, 2021
Conspiracy Theories and New Age Spiritualities with David G. Robertson
Join us for a conversation with David G. Robertson, a Lecturer in Religious Studies at the Open University, co-founder of the Religious Studies Project, and co-editor of the journal Implicit Religion.
February 26, 2021
The Future of LGBTQ Spirituality with Chris Stedman
Join us for a conversation with Chris Stedman, author of IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives (2020) and Faitheist (2012), who has written for publications including The Guardian, The Atlantic, BuzzFeed, Pitchfork, VICE, The LA Review of Books, and The Washington Post.
February 26, 2021
Deconversion with Sergio Perez
Join us for a conversation with Sergio Perez, who has a degree in Psychology from Trinity College Dublin and recently finished a M. Sc. in Applied Social Research, also at the same university.
February 26, 2021
Ritual Design with Ezra Bookman
Join us for a conversation with Ezra Bookman, founder of Ritualist, a boutique consultancy designing more meaningful work-life and connected communities, and the youngest member on the Board of Directors of The Secret City, an Obie Award-winning arts organization.
February 26, 2021
Tolkien-ism, Jedi-ism, and Invented Religions with Markus Davidsen
Join us for a conversation with Markus Davidsen, the University Lecturer in the Sociology of Religion at the Leiden University Centre for the Study of Religion.
February 26, 2021
The Business of Ministry with Rev. Andrew Chirch
Join us for a conversation with Rev. Andrew Chirch, Minister of Operations and faculty for The Chaplaincy Institute (aka “ChI”), he is also a writer, backpacker, husband, and father of three.
February 26, 2021
Movement Chaplaincy and Sustainable Activism with Micky ScottBey Jones
Join us for a conversation with Micky ScottBey Jones – the Justice Doula – a womanist, faith rooted, contemplative activist, healer, movement chaplain and nonviolence practitioner.
February 26, 2021
Becoming a Millennial Zen Monk with Rev. Cristina Moon
Join us for a conversation with Rev. Cristina Moon, a strategist, writer, and Zen teacher at Daihonzan Chozen-ji, a Rinzai Zen temple and monastery in Honolulu.
February 26, 2021
Hip Hop and Spirituality with Dr. Erika Gault
Join us for a conversation with Dr. Erika Gault, an Assistant Professor of Africana Studies with a Ph.D. in American Studies from the State University of New York at Buffalo.
February 26, 2021
Repurposing Religious Assets with Daniel Pryfogle
Join us for a conversation with Daniel Pryfogle, co-founder and CEO of Sympara, a multifaith/interspiritual community that engages in sacred/civic placemaking.
February 26, 2021
Growing Pains - Acoustic Set, by Tim Victor
If you liked Tim's performance in our opening session, check out his original single, Growing Pains - recorded live for Open Div.  Tim Victor is an emerging artist, singer, songwriter, and model originating from Brooklyn, New York. We love his work, and you will too.
February 26, 2021
Growing Pains - Artist Interview with Tim Victor
Join us for a conversation with Tim Victor, an emerging artist, singer, songwriter, and model originating from Brooklyn, New York.
February 26, 2021
Invented Religions with Carole Cusack
Join us for a conversation on Jedi-ism, Tolkien-ism, and other fiction-based religions with Carole M. Cusack, Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Sydney.
February 25, 2021
Hillsong and the Genius of Evangelical Marketing with Tom Wagner
Join us for a conversation with Tom Wagner, lecturer and faculty at University of Manchester, on the topic of Hillsong, music, and the marketing of evangelical churches.
February 25, 2021
The Story of Black Boys Om with Danny Fluker Jr.
Join us for a conversation with Danny Fluker Jr. on building a yoga and wellness community for men and boys of color.
February 25, 2021
Religion Around Virginia Woolf with Stephanie Paulsell
Join us for a conversation with Harvard Divinity School Professor Stephanie Paulsell on how the writings of Virginia Woolf, a self-proclaimed atheist, can be thought of as doing religious work.
February 25, 2021
Finding My Path - Religion and Identity with Terry Washington
Join us for a conversation on Terry Washington's path to ministry and his experience finding LGBTQ-friendly faith communities.
February 25, 2021
Building Your Own Theology with Rev. Richard S. Gilbert
What is theology? What does it mean to craft your own outside of traditional institutions? Join us for a conversation on how to build your own theology with Rev. Dr. Richard S. Gilbert, a 40+ year minister in the Unitarian Universalist tradition and author of the Building Your Own Theology adult religious education series.
February 25, 2021
Worldviews and Ways of Life with Ann Taves
Rather than "religion" and "non-religion," what does it mean to look at these phenomena as part of the broader category of worldviews and ways of life? Join us for a conversation on the category of worldviews and ways of life and what it means for individual meaning-making and the study of religion with Ann Taves, Professor Emerita of Religious Studies at University of California, Santa Barbara and PI of the Inventory of Nonordinary Experiences Project.
February 25, 2021
God and Money with Devin Singh
What does God have to do with money? How did ideas of money shape early Christianity? Join us for a conversation with Devin Singh, Associate Professor at Dartmouth College and author of Divine Currency: The Theological Power of Money in the West.
February 25, 2021
Crossfit as Reinventive Institution with Marcelle Dawson
Crossfit has been compared to a cult, but what does that mean? Is there a better way to understand where it fits? Join us for a conversation on the phenomena of Crossfit, viewed through the sociological lens of a "reinventive institution" with Marcelle Dawson, Professor of Sociology at the University of Otago.
February 25, 2021
Therapy and Spirituality in Racial Healing with Broderick Sawyer
Join us for a conversation on therapy and spirituality for racial healing with therapist and activist Broderick Sawyer.
February 25, 2021
Designing Transformational Experiences with Paul Bulencea
Join us for a conversation on designing transformational experiences and how to help people integrate them afterwards with Paul Bulencea, creator of the College of Extraordinary Experiences.
February 25, 2021
Pilgrimage in the Marketplace with Ian Reader
Join us for a conversation on modern day pilgrimage and how it blurs the lines between the sacred and the secular with Ian Reader, Professor Emeritus at the University of Manchester
February 25, 2021
Building Ecumenical Faith Communities with Killian Noe
Join us for a conversation on building interfaith communities via high commitment small groups with Killian Noe, founder of Recovery Cafe.
February 25, 2021
Straight White American Jesus with Bradley Onishi
Join us for a conversation on the history and politics of Christian nationalism with Bradley Onishi, Associate Professor of Religion at Skidmore College, author of The Sacrality of the Secular, and host of the Straight White American Jesus podcast.
February 25, 2021
Open Div - Welcome
Welcome to the Open Div Summit podcast! The Open Div Summit is a 4-day "pod-conference" around spirituality, meaning, and connection in the secular world. We've brought together top academics, theologians, clergy, and secular experience designers to offer frameworks around creating meaning for oneself and others.  Check back February 25-28 for our podcast drops, or find out more at
February 24, 2021