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OTR DebateApr 24, 2024
C2E2 Special Part 1 - Side Characters
C2E2 is this weekend in Chicago, and we're starting our duo of special C2E2 episodes with a face-off of sidekicks from video games and other nerdy media! Huy and Lando present their balanced teams of characters that represent brains, muscle, and loyalty. Will Lando's team of Falco Lombardi, Diddy Kong, and the dog from the Fable series win out? Or will Huy's squad of Knuckles, Pikachu, and Aku Aku knock us out (with a Falcon punch)? Listen to find out!
OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "Cinematic Battle Song" and "Orchestral Hero Theme" by TheoJT and "video_game.mp3" by NeoSpica on freesound.org
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Sources:
https://www.giantbomb.com/falco-lombardi/3005-420/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/falco-lombardi/4005-84052/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0229339/plotsummary/
Tim Robinson VS Eric Andre
We're debating Tim and Eric, but not the ones you might be thinking of...That's right, we're pitting two alternative comedy titans against one another: Tim Robinson and Eric Andre! Lando discusses Tim Robinson's beginnings with his buddy Sam Richardson, and his time on Saturday Night Live and Detroiters before coming out with Netflix's biggest meme-able sketch show, I Think You Should Leave. Huy represents Eric Andre through his early stand-up career and with the Geico cavemen before starting the absurd talk show on Adult Swim, The Eric Andre Show. Which of these comedians' funniest moments will sway Mucci? Or is he a biased judge that our debaters will find difficult to sway one way or the other?
OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "Jazz-Drum-Beat-120-BPM" by jimrsbjorklund, "Numbskull" by Beetlemuse, and "Funny Background Music Orchestra" by Migfus20, all on freesound.org
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Sources:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/tim_robinson_5
https://www.vulture.com/2016/03/netflixs-the-characters-is-all-over-the-map-just-as-intended.html
Godzilla VS Kong
In light of the upcoming new blockbuster movie Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire, what better time for a MonsterVerse debate to determine who is the true king of the monsters? Lando takes us from Skull Island to the Empire State Building, as he draws upon King Kong's humanity and the lawsuit against Nintendo's Donkey Kong, with an ironically-named lawyer in the proceedings. Mucci argues for the historical and political themes of the Godzilla movies, with the country of Japan reckoning with the atomic bomb through its art -- and the butchering of that art for American audiences. Godzilla is also super-strong with that atomic breath and superhuman (?) strength. What kind of roller coaster ride will Judge Huy's decision take us on this time?
Music: "Rock Pattern Key of E 120 BPM B" by BaDoink; "ゴジラ/Godzilla" by famian_lm; and "Jungle tribal hut" by szegvari, all on freesound.org. OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci.
Sources: https://comicbook.com/movies/news/king-kong-complicated-rights-wild-character-peter-jackson-monsterverse/ https://screenrant.com/kong-height-tall-each-movie-explained/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/king-kong-unbelievable-true-story-hollywoods-favorite-giant-ape-984785/ https://www.looper.com/368061/the-history-of-king-kong-explained/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-igodzillai-helped-isl_b_169015 https://www.cbr.com/godzilla-vs-kong-godzilla-strengths-weaknesses/ https://hero.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(MonsterVerse) https://apnews.com/general-news-movies-2abb61ec24464a1e84eb1c8283a5eef8
One Piece VS Avatar: The Last Airbender (with Raul from Señor Nerd Podcast)
Music: "Cinematic orchestral adventure music" by humanoide9000 (https://freesound.org/people/humanoide9000/sounds/689177/) and "Orchestral Adventure Theme" by TheoJT (https://freesound.org/people/TheoJT/sounds/569782/). Main theme by Lando and Mucci.
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Sources:
tokyoreview.net/2017/07/subversive-messages-in-anime/
Chainsaw Man VS Death Note
Anime and manga fans, rev your chainsaws and start scribbling the names of people you'd rather see gone, because we're talking Chainsaw Man and Death Note this episode! Lando reveals how Death Note has spoiled him for all other anime, and highlights the cat-and-mouse machinations of Light Yagami (not Turner) and L as one boy genius tries to outwit the other. Mucci attempts to dance around the awkwardness of talking about a teenage flawed hero with base desires, but a lot of heart (even if said heart happens to be replaced by a chainsaw devil dog). Judge Huy tries not to disappoint Lando as much as the Netflix Death Note movie did.
Music: "Mystical Music Box for TV Series" by UNIVERSFIELD and "The Spider" by felineterror on freesound.org. Main theme by Lando and Mucci.
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https://www.dualshockers.com/5-most-iconic-moments-from-death-note/ https://www.cbr.com/death-note-lights-craziest-plans/
Fortnite VS Smash Bros.
Mucci walks in on his cohosts playing Fortnite on a Switch by Lake Michigan. He insists that Super Smash Bros. is better and that they should all be playing that. Lando disagrees, and what follows is a lively discussion, judged by Huy, in which Mucci and Lando argue that their crossover game is the better one. Which has the better selection of characters? Better multiplayer experience and gameplay? And will Mucci's reference to Nintendo's notorious litigiousness sway Huy, or blow him off the debate stage? Listen to find out!
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The Hunger Games VS Percy Jackson (with Danielle M. Orsino)
OTR returns to ring in 2024 with a young adult novel series face-off: The Hunger Games against Percy Jackson! As our witness this week, we have acclaimed fantasy author Danielle M. Orsino, who discusses writing female characters with strength and complexity and designing fight scenes to be comprehensible and believable for the reader. With Lando representing Katniss Everdeen and her crew, will his witness give him the edge this week? Or will Huy impress Judge Mucci with the demigods and Greek mythological creatures of the Percy Jackson series?
Be sure to check out Danielle M. Orsino's Birth of the Fae series! Find more information at her Instagram: @birthofthefae_novel
OTR theme music by Lando and Mucci.
Sources:
https://ethics.org.au/ethics-explainer-just-war/
https://bannedbooks.library.cmu.edu/hunger-games-by-suzanne-collins/
Manga VS American Comics
OTR returns to one of its favorite Chicago neighborhoods, Lincoln Square, as we sit down for a bookish debate at The Book Cellar! This time, Huy and Mucci debate manga versus American comic books, for Lando to decide which is better. Mucci thinks manga needs anime to really come to life, whereas Huy argues for the greater diversity in topics and demographics of manga. Along the way, some Book Cellar employees share some of their great insights and recommendations on comics, manga, and beyond -- be sure to check out their lovely bookstore/cafe/bar in Chicago!
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OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "Podcast loop 001 90 bmp.wav" by josefpres on freesound.org.
Sources:
https://lawandthemultiverse.com/2011/04/06/the-trial-of-reed-richards/ https://bleedingcool.com/comics/kid-became-comic-book-hero-in-1946-hated-it/ Castillo v. Texas, 79 S.W.3d 817 (2002).
Squid Game VS Alice in Borderland
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OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci. Other music: “Cinematic Crime Suspense” by tyops and “Dramatic Scene Character Death Separation Melancholy Sadness” by UNIVERSFIELD on freesound.org.
Sources:
www.cherrychumagazine.com/entertainment/squid-game-follows-alice-in-borderland-in-tackling-social-issues
medium.com/@excogitatio/alice-in-borderland-a-sophist-on-life-9cb2323a9965
Goosebumps VS Are You Afraid of the Dark?
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Intro and outro music by Lando and Mucci. Other music: “12281 creepy memories ambiance” by Robinhood76 and “campfire deer camp - adding kindling - med wind - part 4” by Ambient-X from freesound.org.
Sources:
time.com/6190593/rl-stine-goosebumps-anniversary-interview/
www.mentalfloss.com/posts/r-l-stine-goosebumps-book-series-facts
www.foxnews.com/media/rl-stine-accuses-publisher-changing-goosebumps-books-permission-never-changed-word
www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/r-l-stine-goosebumps-inteview-books-censorship-horror-1234849389/
wpde.com/news/nation-world/goosebumps-author-denies-editing-his-books-with-more-inclusive-language-changes-were-never-shown-to-me-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-roald-dahl
world.edu/banned-books-awareness-goosebumps-rl-stine/
Melon Heads VS Black Eyed Children
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Intro and outro music by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "What lies beneath"
(https://freesound.org/people/Victor_Natas/sounds/617049/) and "Eerie and mysterious" (https://freesound.org/people/Victor_Natas/sounds/587023/) by Victor_Natas. Subscribe to his YouTube channel at Victors Crypt: www.youtube.com/channel/UCA8O46_WrQZEhSdZuwFQ3rQ
Sources:
www.clickondetroit.com/features/2017/01/18/the-legend-of-the-michigan-melon-heads/
web.archive.org/web/20071022062615/http
www.wkyc.com/article/life/holidays/halloween/3news-investigates-melon-heads-kirtland/95-31c66168-e6b3-4348-a7c6-7a34127b19eb
newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-melon-heads-of-connecticut/
JF Rodo Rome: Sightings: Monsters of the World - Saugatuck Melonheads (2017)
columnsfairmontstate.com/2858/conspiracy-corner/conspiracy-corner-black-eyed-kids/
cynthiavarady.medium.com/what-are-black-eyed-children-4612e5b27256
the-line-up.com/black-eyed-children
Aliens VS Ghosts, Part 3 (with Scott Philbrook and Forrest Burgess of Astonishing Legends)
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Intro and outro music by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "Gastly sounds" by menvafaan (https://freesound.org/people/menvafaan/sounds/169665/).
Sources:
Stambovsky v. Ackley, 169 A.D.2d 254 (N.Y. App. Div. 1991).
www.ctvnews.ca/canada/we-re-not-crazy-listen-to-a-flight-report-unusual-lights-near-yellowknife-in-january-1.6277389
www.ctvnews.ca/canada/read-secret-memo-for-trudeau-on-unidentified-object-shot-down-over-yukon-1.6548510
www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/us/politics/us-shoots-down-object-michigan.html
abc7chicago.com/canada-high-altitude-airborne-object-justin-trudeau-north-american-aerospace-defense-command/12801392/
www.npr.org/2023/02/12/1156428862/us-shoot-down-ufo-unidentified-object-lake-huron
EDM VS Punk
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OTR Theme by Lando and Mucci. Other music: "Pop Punk Short 31" by bainmack (youtube.com/bainmack) and a free EDM song by Seth_Makes_Sounds (https://www.patreon.com/sethmakessounds). (Intentionally?) stilted snippet of Sarah McLachlan’s “I Will Remember You” performed by Mucci.
Legal Misconceptions in Pop Culture (Mini)
While Pat is away, Lando and Mucci decided to resurrect some topics from a live discussion OTR had regarding legal misconceptions in pop culture. Lando demonstrates how TV shows and movies often get the actual work of a lawyer completely wrong, always depicting them in a courtroom and, in that setting, getting to do whatever they want without objection. Mucci discusses misconceptions about immigration topics such as "green card marriages" and the nebulous concept of a visa, as well as some personal injury inaccuracies in TV shows and movies (such as the McDonald's coffee lawsuit).
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Rugrats v. Hey Arnold!
Back on Museum Campus in Chicago, IL, OTR debates their favorite classic Nicktoons! Pat takes the side of Hey Arnold! while Mucci advocates for Rugrats (#babymucci). With Lando judging, how big a role will Reptar play in his decision? Is Stoop Kid a more sympathetic character than Chuckie Finster? Is Rugrats a show for babies, or just a show about babies? Listen to find out -- and let us know what your favorite Nicktoon is!
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90s Trilogies: Jurassic Park v. Scream (with Danielle of No More Late Fees Podcast)
Mucci and Lando face off with two trilogies that spanned the 90s to the early 2000s - Jurassic Park and Scream. For help, Mucci calls an expert witness - Danielle from the No More Late Fees Podcast! Who better to ask than someone who cohosts a podcast about the movies of the late 90s and early 2000s, the prime Blockbuster rental era? Danielle discusses differences of opinion on movies, how she would rate these two trilogies, and what 90s-2000s trilogy she would pick. With Pat as the judge, will box office numbers sway him in any way? Or will the pre-Community meta-commentary of the Scream movies give Mucci the win?
Many thanks to Danielle for giving her time and expert opinion on movies. Check out No More Late Fees wherever you get your podcasts, and follow them on IG or TikTok @nomorelatefees
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Thought Experiment Explained and Debated [OTR Debate]
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Best Sandwich: Monte Cristo v. Reuben (Mini)
Mucci and Pat are sandwich fans, but they disagree on which one is best. However, they believe there are two heavyweight contenders that should duke it out: the Monte Cristo and the Reuben. They put their culinary skills to the test for Lando, who judges this week based on flavor and presentation. Will he go for the heavy, sweet-and-savory, kinda-carnival-food Monte Cristo? Or will the balance of salty meat, tangy Thousand Island dressing, mild Swiss, and sauerkraut give the -- admittedly simpler in construction -- Reuben the win? Listen to find out -- or better yet, watch this episode on YouTube to see us trying the sandwiches!
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AI in Pop Culture (LIVE from Garden of the Phoenix)
LIVE from Chicago's Garden of the Phoenix, Pat and Lando face off with their choices of the best depictions in the media of our future AI overlords. Pat's picks, including Halo's Cortana and 2001's HAL, emphasize the attempts for connection between AI and human beings. Meanwhile, Lando's choices emphasize the journeys that AI beings have taken in such movies as Wall-E and Ex Machina, and the implications for humanity.
Sound off with your favorite examples of AI in pop culture! Is there anything huge we missed? Let us know on our socials (IG: @otr_debate, Twitter: @OTRdebate, FB: @otrdebate) or email topics you think we should cover at OTRdebate@gmail.com!
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OTR Theme by Lando, Pat, and Mucci. Other music: "Army of mean robots" by Victor_Natas -- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA8O46_WrQZEhSdZuwFQ3rQ
Superheroes and the Law (LIVE from C2E2 2023)
At C2E2 on 4/1/23, Matt Murdock (Lando) and Phoenix Wright (Mucci) joined forces (what is this, a crossover episode?) to debate superheroes and comics as they relate to legal concepts. Among cosplayers whose time and money put into their extravagant costumes causes them to rise like Galactus above Mucci's and Lando's efforts, famous trials in comic books are dissected, real-world concepts are explored through the lens of comics, and vigilantism is lambasted as highly unhelpful to the prosecution.
OTR Theme by Lando, Pat, and Mucci. Other music: "Orchestral Adventure Theme" by TheoJT (https://www.t-heo.com/music/) and "Realm of Adventure" by waxsocks (https://freesound.org/people/waxsocks/sounds/683938/).
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March Malice Aforethought: Barrister’s Battle Part 3: Finals
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Special Guests: Huy and Commissioner Derek
March Malice Aforethought: Barrister's Battle - Part 2: The Tournament Begins!
Intro music by tyops — find this track at youtu.be/gZRw6wrzpmw
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March Malice Aforethought: Barrister’s Battle - Part 1: Draft
OTR gets ready for its first tournament of fictional attorneys by drafting the lawyers who will compete in the upcoming March Malice Aforethought: Barrister’s Battle. After Commissioner Derek lays out the ground rules, Mucci, Lando, Pat, and special guest Huy snake-draft their fantasy team of fictional lawyers from movies, TV, video games, and literature.
Intro music by tyops — find this track at https://youtu.be/gZRw6wrzpmw
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Toxic Fan Bases (Bonus Micro Debate)
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The Last of Us: Part I v. Part II
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Pokemon v. Digimon: A Second Opinion [BONUS Mini]
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Pokemon v. Digimon (Mini)
This week, Mucci judges which Japanese cute-monster-multimedia-franchise is better: Pokemon or Digimon. Lando makes a case for the darker storytelling of Digimon's anime, while also taking us through important moments in the history of the franchise, such as its beginnings as a Tamagotchi-like toy and its PS1 video game that sells for around $300 today. Pat advocates for Pokemon based on its massive financial success, its iconic characters, and Pokemon Go, which ate up a couple of our cohosts' time when they should have been studying for the bar. Will Mucci find that Digimon are the champions, or does he know it is his destiny to crown Pokemon the winner?
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OTR Plays Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Check out the full video of OTR's playthrough of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Case 1-1 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkkFt7-gCmI
Full video of our Twitch livestream on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPmv0H0LdXk
On 1/8/23, live on Twitch, OTR Debate played through Phoenix Wright's first-ever case! We talk about all the things that differ between the US and Japanese court systems, and otherwise react to the game's surprising reveals and well-placed text boxes. Will we get Phoenix to win his first-ever case? And will Capcom ever sponsor us?
Streamed at: https://www.twitch.tv/otrdebate_mucci
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The People v. The Scooby Doo Gang
Scooby Doo, Shaggy, and their Mystery Inc. coworkers (or co-conspirators?) love to solve crimes. But are they guilty themselves of committing certain crimes in the process of nabbing the costumed criminals that would've gotten away with it if it weren't those meddling kids? Prosecutor, Lando, seems to think so. Pat takes on the defense for the crew -- don't call them a gang! Mucci tries to keep his courtroom in order and wonders if the worst crime of all is the canned laughter of the original series.
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Best Christmas Song (BONUS Micro Debate)
After our Best On-Screen Santa mini debate, Lando and Mucci tried to quickly debate Christmas songs. Is "Baby, It's Cold Outside" problematic for Mucci? Is Lando a poptimist with his Mariah and Sia picks? Lando and Mucci regroup in the studio to add context and re-evaluate their picks they chose off-the-cuff in the Chicago Athletic Association.
Make sure to follow our friend Stew of Stewpendous Productions, who hosts trivia around Chicago! Check out his website: www.stewpendousproductions.com/ and find him on Instagram @stewpendousproductions -- Thank you Stew and Merry Christmas, Santa!
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Best On-Screen Santa Claus (LIVE Mini)
Recorded LIVE from Maggie Daley Park in Chicago, IL
What is your favorite on-screen Santa Claus? Mucci and Pat debate their favorite Santa while Lando ice skates around their arguments. Mucci goes back to the 1940s for Edmund Gwenn's classic take on the role in the original Miracle on 34th Street, while Pat picks perhaps the skinniest Santa Claus since Cosmo Kramer: Jack Skellington in A Nightmare Before Christmas. How will Lando decide the winner?
Who do you think should have won? Vote in our poll on Spotify!
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Aliens v. Ghosts, Part 2
Lando's appeal of the ruling in episode 2 of season 1 is finally heard, with Judge Pat again moderating as Lando continues his steadfast advocacy for the belief in alien life. Mucci, on the other hand, finally brings an actual argument on the side of ghosts. Both are determined to be more well-researched in this episode -- and in this season. Will this episode finally put the nail in the coffin of the controversial aliens v. ghosts debate?
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OTR theme song by Lando and Mucci, all other music by Victor_Natas (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA8O46_WrQZEhSdZuwFQ3rQ) and Audiomirage (https://freesound.org/people/audiomirage).
Sources:
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Fitting In v. Standing Out [BONUS Mini]
Following the events of iPhone v. Android, Mucci and Pat debate whether it is better to follow the crowd or pave your own path. What are your thoughts on the matter? Is it better to fit in or stand out? Lando wasn't around to judge this debate so we need your help!
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iPhone v. Android [Mini]
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OTR Presents: Ghost Stories (A Halloween Special)
The guys are at a loss for who among their great guests had the best stories, so let us know on social media (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter) or via email who you thought had the best ones! Follow us (IG: @otr_debate, Twitter: @OTRdebate, FB: @otrdebate) or email topics you think we should cover at OTRdebate@gmail.com! Or for easy access to everything: linktr.ee/Otrdebate
Halloween Bonus: Tarot Card Reading with Ash
Man: Good v. Evil
Source: Jeanie Lerche Davis, "The Science of Good Deeds," WebMD (2005), available at: www.webmd.com/balance/features/science-good-deeds