Penny University Pre'Cents

Penny University Pre'Cents

By Deborah Pfingston
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Moments on Skin - Episode 7: Tattoos Last Forever
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen to the final episode as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo.  Want to check out what faces and tattoos go with Deborah and Tony - go to Penny University's Facebook page, like us and share.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to the final episode in this fun series. Also, listen to Series One from Penny University - 'Our Investigation, Our Truth'.  This is a thought provoking series on what happen in Yarnell, Arizona on June 30th, 2013.  What took the lives of 19 men.  
30:11
October 7, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 6: Hold Fast
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo. In Episode Six, Deborah heads over to Hold Fast.  Tony gets a diamond tattoo.  This tattoo has a lot of meaning.  First, Tony lives in Diamond Valley, Arizona.  Second, Andrew - Deborah's son, had a diamond tattoo because he grew up in Diamond Valley, Arizona. Kenny, the owner of Hold Fast and special guest on this episode, gives Tony the tattoo.  Why, because Kenny grew up in Diamond Valley.  With all these connections the diamond was perfect.  Listen to the buzz and conversation.     If you would like to see Deborah, Tony and Kenny, head over to Penny University's Facebook page. Please make sure you 'like' us and share not only our Facebook page but the podcast too.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments or questions to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this refreshing series.
31:54
September 15, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 5: Caged Tattoos
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo. In Episode Five, Deborah and Tony talk with Danny Hilton.  Danny is a Mixed Martial Arts fighter, artist, friend and, of course, covered in tattoos.  Truly a present day renaissance man.  What do some of his tattoos mean?  He once wanted to be a tattoo artist - what was that like?  Listen in and enjoy :). If you would like to see Deborah, Tony and Danny, head over to Penny University's Facebook page. Please make sure you 'like' us and share not only our Facebook page but the podcast too.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments or questions to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this refreshing series.
39:34
September 2, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 4: Tattooed Ladies
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo. In Episode Four, Deborah and Tony talk with Lindsey Parker and Adrienne Carey.  Lindsey is a high school English teacher and several of her tattoo reflect her love for literature.  Adrienne is, also, a high school teacher (the sciences), a Roller Derby girl, and Tony's wife.  Why did both of these amazing women got their tattoos?  Is being a 'tattoo lady' set them apart in our culture? Listen and hear their stories. If you would like to see Lindsey and Adrienne head over to Penny University's Facebook page. Please make sure you 'like' us and share not only our Facebook page but the podcast too.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments or questions to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this refreshing series.
52:41
August 25, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 3: Warriors Get Tattoos
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo. In Episode Three, Deborah and Tony talk with Andrew Myers and T.J. Ashcraft II.  Andrew, a veteran, has some unique tattoos that exemplify so much for him.  T.J., currently serving in the Army, has tattoos that speak through their design.  Why did they get these tattoos and what do they mean to them.  Listen to their stories of - their moments on the skin.     If you would like to check out what faces and, of course, tattoos go with Andrew and T.J. - go to Penny University's Facebook page.  Please make sure you 'like' us and share not only our Facebook page but the podcast too.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this cool series.  
44:41
August 19, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 2: A Brief History - Tattoos are Old
 Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo. Episode Two is all about the history.  Tattooing actually has a very long history, so Deborah and Tony just skim the surface.  Plus, there are many different styles of tattooing too :).   Tony mentions a friend, Fade FX, who is a world renowned tattoo artist. She traveled deep into the jungles of Borneo to meet the last tattooed head hunters of the Iban tribe. Check out her documentary: 'Point of No Return. Hand tapped tattooing in Borneo' @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIPMkmmJRG4 .     If you would like to check out what faces and tattoos go with Deborah and Tony - go to Penny University's Facebook page, like us and share.  Then if you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this cool series.   
45:44
August 12, 2019
Moments on Skin - Episode 1: Why Do Some of Us Get Tattoos
Why does someone want to place a moment on their skin?  Something that will always be there, reminding them of an event, a person, or even a thought.  Listen as Deborah Pfingston and Tony Carey discuss what they know from their different sides of the tattoo.  Want to check out what faces and tattoos go with Deborah and Tony - go to Penny University's Facebook page, like us and share.  If you would like to send a comment we would love to hear from you, send all comments to  Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Enjoy listening to this fun series.   
35:36
August 5, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 10: Thank You
Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni, bring to an end the discussion revolving around what happened on and after June 30th, 2013.  Deborah and Doug know the truth was not told.  What they discovered and what they know has been revealed in this Penny University series.    They put their pain on hold, so others will hear what really happened.   There has been a lot of listeners emailing.  Deborah and Doug thought they would let you read a small sample of some great ideas from a California wildland firefighter.  His ideas and attitude are a great example of these awesome people.  "Hi, my name is Nathan and I’m on an engine in California. Been listing to your podcast and it’s very interesting what you found."  "When you talk about radios, tracking and GPS, the military has stuff that works I’m sure but does the forest service or anyone else have the money to get that tech to everyone. A couple ideas I thought of was the emergency beacons that public can buy for backpacking, in the snow, or a situation that a person may not have cell service. It’s basically an emergency beacon that’s calls search and rescue with emergency aid to your location. So when you activate it, they know who you are. Everyone engine, crew or what have you on your forest gets these and they get registered to each person. If engine 15 and buck rock hotshots activate their beacons, dispatch would see which person on the crews or maybe everyone activated the beacon, and what their location is. Then maybe there is someway that if you go off forest, you are able to give the forest or IC a way to get the same info if you activate it there. Or you leave your forest beacons at home but the fire you arrive at, you are issued a set for your group. The IC sets up the info to know that engine 15 has beacons 577-582 or something to that degree."  "Radios having the emergency button on them is a great idea... In California the State fire agency Cal Fire, they use a lot of ton guards and if you can’t get those right then communication will be gone."  "I do agree with the responsibility being passed down and people not taking ownership. We had a lightning fire on a sister forest that our strike team and gotten diverted too. They said we couldn’t put boots on the ground at the fire because there was too many hazard trees. So they wanted us to prep a community in case it ever blew up, but they were going to manage the fire. It was late in the season and there had been snow and rain in that area a few days prior to the fire. We did a 2 week assignment here. By the 3rd day we had done all that really needed to be done to the community but the forest just came up with random stuff to do. The kicker came when they started having people go up a dirt road that attached to another community. They wanted the hazard trees along the road removed. We all scratched our heads because we couldn’t go to the fire because of hazard trees but off the road it was ok. Nobody got injured, but still it was a needless reason that didn’t make sense. From the beginning the forest didn’t have a good plan in mind and was basically asking our strike team to form the plan for the community." Space has limited more comments, but please know we would still love to hear from you.  Email Deborah or Doug at Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com. Thank you for listening.    
41:11
May 11, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 9: Whose Taking the Risk
 Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni, continue the discussion of changes that should happen after June 30th, 2013 - with the big three changes that should and need to happen.  Joined by three special guests hear the great discussion on changes or the need for changes.   Deborah and Doug know the truth was not told.  What they discovered and what they know is revealed in this Penny University series.    They put their pain on hold, so others will hear what really happened.   Feel free to contact Deborah or Doug at PennyUniversity@protonmail.com.
1:00:19
May 4, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 8: Your Changes, Our Changes
Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni, start the discussion of changes that should happen after June 30th, 2013.  When they lost their loved ones and friends.  Some of the changes came from you, the listeners.  Some of the changes are from Deborah and Doug after their investigation.  This is the only major loss of life that has produced no changes at all!  Could it be because there is a huge cover up of truth?  Could it be because changes cost money and money carries more weight than life?  You decide. Deborah and Doug know the truth was not told.  What they discovered and what they know is revealed in this Penny University series.    They put their pain on hold, so others will hear what really happened.   Feel free to contact Deborah or Doug at PennyUniversity@protonmail.com.
43:38
April 24, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 7: THE Granite Mountain Hotshots
Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni, along with Chief Darrell Willis, Retired Prescott Fire Chief, share with you the true history of the Granite Mountain Hotshots.  This is the true history, not the loosely based history shown of the Granite Mountain crew presented in "Only the Brave".   From why they existed - to how wildland/urban interface communities should have a crew just like them this is a must listen to episode.  Please listen to this fantastic discussion with those who were there.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=RCR486ZAIuI -Granite Mountain Hotshots - Esse Quam Videri If you would like to read a written history of Granite Mountain Inter-agency Hotshots link here:  https://www.wfgi.org/news/2018/3/3/granite-mountain-interagency-hotshot-crew-history.  If you would like a hard copy of the Granite Mountain Inter-agency Hotshot history, just send an email to Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com with your request.   If you have any questions, comments or just want to say 'hi' to Deborah or Doug please email them at Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com.  They would love to hear from you.   Be strong, wise and safe.      
1:00:06
April 15, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 6: Hiking the Path
Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni continue the discussion of what happened after June 30th, 2013.  They lost their loved ones and friends.  They know the truth was not told.  What they discovered and what they know is revealed.    Deborah and Doug put their pain on hold, so others will hear what really happened.   As promised here are the audio recordings discussed in this episode.  This audio found by Holly Neill proves there was no 33- minute gap.  You can hear Eric Marsh at 16:13, he gives his Granite Mountain's location and movements.      The original audio/video is from: Serious Accident Investigation Records F-PhotosAndVideos\A05-20130630AerialFirefightingStudyPhotosVideos Video ID: 20130630-16162-O-VLAT-split-1-E-P Do you know who is talking to Eric Marsh?  Please share your thoughts at Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com.   The original audio/video is from: Serious Accident Investigation Records F-PhotosAndVideos\A08-20130630BlueRidgeHotshotPhotosVideos June 30, 2013 Here is the YouTube video that holds the audio when Blue Ridge discusses, "Fuckin making sure idiots aren't burning themselves out..." @ +3.06.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75k7o_L6B8&feature=youtu.be  Thank you for walking this path with us.  Please share you thoughts, comments, or questions with Deborah or Doug at Pennyuniversity@protonmail.com.
42:35
April 8, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 5: Heartbreak, Frustration, Anger
In this episode you will take the next step with Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni.  The discussion continues.  The crew is dead, what happened.  How did 19 men die, what were the families told, what lies are still believed, hear how some refused to accept the SAIR and searched for the truth. Deborah and Doug had to put their pain on hold, they had to seek the truth.  Listen to how they fought, and still fight, to dig a line against the lies presented by a investigation that was really a cover up.     
1:09:20
March 30, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 4: All the Dominoes Line Up to Tragedy
What occur between the hour of 3:45 pm and 4:45 pm June 30, 2013?  The Department of Forestry does not want the truth revealed.  Their cover up was published as the Serious Accident Investigation Report (SAIR -  https://dffm.az.gov/yarnell-hill-report-available).   Arizona Division of Occupational Safety and Health report tried their best to discover what happened (ADOSH - http://www.npstc.org/download.jsp?tableId=37&column=217&id=2944).  Yet, they even missed some key discoveries.  Deborah Pfingston and Doug Harwood, through their investigation and diligence, pull back the shadow.  They discuss the gross negligence that led to the death of Deborah's son and Doug's good friends.  Granite Mountain Interagency Hotshot crew lost their lives, 'Our Investigation, Our Truth' will tell you what really happened.     If you have any questions or comments - please contact Deborah or Doug at PennyUniversity@Protonmail.com.  We would like to hear from you.  Truth is why we do this podcast and if you have any confusion we want to help.   
55:58
March 18, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 3: Command or Lack of Command Arrives on the Fire
Episode Three describes the events from Sunday, June 30, 2013.   This was a very chaotic day.   This episode will deal with what occurred up until 1530 (3:30 pm), approximately one hour prior to the Granite Mountain crew's tragic death.  Deborah and Doug want to make it clear how wrong and misleading the Department of Forestry and Fire Management Serious Accident Investigation Report on the Yarnell Hill Fire (SAIR - https://dffm.az.gov/yarnell-hill-report-available) is.   If you have not listen to Episodes One & Two, please take the time to do so prior to listening to Episode Three. It will help you walk through the events (the dominoes that fell) that led to the loss of the Granite Mountain Interagency Hotshot crew, a Type One Wildland Hotshot crew.     Any questions or comments - please contact Deborah or Doug at PennyUniversity@Protonmail.com.  We would like to hear from you.  Truth is why we do this podcast and if you have any confusion we want to help.    
57:38
March 1, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 2: A Game of Catch Up - Fire Wins
Our Investigation, Our Truth Episode Two: A Game of Catch Up - Fire Wins. Deborah Pfingston, Andrew Ashcraft's Mom, and Doug Harwood, Granite Mountain Hotshot Alumni, continue the conversation on what happened to the Granite Mountain Hotshot crew in Yarnell, Arizona.  What led to their tragic deaths and who continues to hide the truth.   Listen to the discussion as they explain what transpired on Saturday, June 29, 2013.  The day before the crew was lost.  Deborah and Doug are passionate about getting the truth out.  Using the Serious Accident Investigation Report (SAIR - wildfiretoday.com/documents/Yarnell_Hill_Fire_report.pdf ), Arizona Department of Safety & Health Investigation (ADOSH - https://cryptome.org/2013/12/yarnell-hill-fire-13-1204.pdf), interviews from both reports, personal interviews with key people, their hands on experiences and much more to find out what really happened.   They lost their loved ones in this tragedy, listen to what they discovered. 
41:39
February 16, 2019
Our Investigation, Our Truth - Episode 1: Why
The very first episode of 'Our Investigation, Our Truth!' Deborah Pfingston and Doug Harwood explain why they are working, with Penny University, to get the truth out about what happened June 30, 2013 in Yarnell, Arizona.  Listen to the discussion as they explain 'why' they conducted their own personal investigation.  Using the Serious Accident Investigation Report (SAIR -  https://wildfiretoday.com/documents/Yarnell_Hill_Fire_report.pdf ), Arizona Department of Safety & Health Investigation (ADOSH -   https://cryptome.org/2013/12/yarnell-hill-fire-13-1204.pdf), interviews, personal experiences and more to find out what happened to the crew.  They lost their loved ones in this tragedy, listen to what they discovered.     
36:17
February 4, 2019