What do you talk about when you've got a guy who's won one of the world's toughest races on your podcast? Well, raising children, writing and reading books, and, yes, why doing hard things isn't about the hard thing, really, so much as about breaking bread with our inner animal.

Paul Watkins is a delightful guest: full of expected and unexpected wisdom and a wonderful sense of humor about things. He is able to appreciate Nassim Nicholas Taleb's work and still recognize what a gigantic douche he is.

You can find Paul at https://www.paulwatkins.com.au and on LinkedIn (where he's doing some actually interesting stuff) at https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-watkins-92125499/

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Ep. 2 - The Finite and the Infinite

Sonder UnionBy Owen McGrannAug 13, 2023