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We Should've Recorded That! with Phil and Adam

We Should've Recorded That! with Phil and Adam

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S.2 Ep.14 Confronting Fatigue
This week Phill and Adam talk about fatigue. Adam gives a prefatory note. They talk about how to confront our fatigue. How do you like your coffee?
April 17, 2021
S.2 Ep.13: Clips from the Past
This week Phil and Adam share clips from past episodes: WSRT.S2.Ep4: Dr. McGhee shares a stirring movie scene performance of Mahalia Jackson. WSRT.S2.Ep5: Azia shares the meaning behind the title of the journalism project that she is leading. WSRT.S2.Ep6: Adam shares learning to distinguish inauthenticity from professionalism. WSRT.S2.Ep7: Dr. Smith shares her favorite style of Gospel Music and gives a snapshot of the progression of Sacred African American Music WSRT.S2.Ep7: Dr. Smith talks about the Importance of Representation WSRT.S2.Ep8: Janette suggests how arts organizations better represent the communities around them WSRT.S2.Ep11: Adam shares his three legged stool for choral curriculum and both talk about community singing 
April 10, 2021
S.2 Ep.12: Easter
This week Phil and Adam talk about the other central day on the Christian calendar. They talk about the significates of Easter, and the season of Lent that precedes it. There is a glitch during the episode. They share what is most memorable to them about the day. 
April 3, 2021
S.2 Ep.11: Process vs Product Part 2
This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about Process vs. Product. Adam shares how he came to process over product pedagogical approach. They muse about a future where communities perform unrehearsed music for fun. Is Process vs. Product controversial? Adam talks about how the human brain is wired for process oriented learning.
March 27, 2021
S.2 Ep.10: Process vs Product Part 1
This week Phil and Adam talk about the phrase "Process vs Product". They talk about the meaning this pedagogically controversial phrase. They discuss how the phrase applies in education, and specifically music education.
March 20, 2021
S.2 Ep.9 Looking Forward to Post-Pandemic Plans
Phil and Adam talk about their Post Pandemic Plans this week. What are you looking forward to doing once it is fully safe to travel and socialize?
March 13, 2021
S.2 Ep.8: with Janette LaBarre: A year of Covid-19 and Arts Organizations
This week Phil and Adam are joined by their first podcast guest. Janette LaBarre catches them up on what she has been doing since they last spoke. She shares how recent social movements are making donors more value conscious and thus making organizations consider their values. She shares how the pandemic may be slowing down diversity progress that organizations were working towards.
March 6, 2021
S.2 Ep.7: with Dr. Frances Fonza Smith: Conversation about African American Sacred Music
This week Phil and Adam are joined by Dr. Smith to talk more African American Sacred Music. Dr. Smith, a highly accomplished musician, shares her musical beginnings. Music Education is a part of her story from it's early years. She weighes in on our on going conversation about authenticity. She shares her favorite style of Gospel music and gives us a snapshot of the historical progression of African American Sacred Music. She talks about the importance of representation. You will hear how teaching choirs in the Black Church joins integral parts of herself.  Mentioned in Episode:
February 27, 2021
S.2 Ep. 6: Still Reflecting on our Authentic-Self
Phil and Adam continue their conversation about being authentic. Phil shares his inspiration for reflecting on authenticity. They share moments when one might pretend. They also talk about the nuance of being authentic. Articles on Respectability Politics:
February 20, 2021
S.2 Ep. 5: with Azia Wiggins on Solutions Journalism and Authenticity
This week Phil and Adam talk to a returning guest. Azia Wiggins helps answer a voice message. She also shares about her journalism project. She tells them about the most authentic people in her life. They all talk about Code-Switching vs Inauthenticity. Adam's Artist Suggestions for Appreciating the Spiritual (many more could be added): American Spiritual Ensemble, Kathleen Battle, Leontyne Price, William Warfield, Simon EsteGrace, Bumbry, Paul Robeson, Shirley Verrett, Jessye Norman, Lawrence Brownlee, Pretty Yende, Marian Anderson, Denyce Graves, Willard White, Seth McCoy Phil's Artist Suggestions for Appreciating Black Gospel (many more could be added): Fred Hammond, Hezekiah Walker, Donald Lawrence, John P. Kee, Kirk Franklin, Clark Sisters, Rance Allen, Canton Spirituals, Jonathan McReynolds, Kim Burrell, Mississippi Mass Choir, the Winans, BeBe and CeCe Winans, Marvin Winans, any Mass Choir Azia's Article: Sick And Tired: No Time To Rest For The Resilient Black Woman In Mississippi Develop Authenticity: 20 Ways to Be a More Authentic Person
February 13, 2021
S.2 Ep. 4: with Dr. Jeffery McGhee: Singing the Spirituals
This week Phil and Adam have a conversation with Dr. Jeffery McGhee, Vocal Faculty at Roberts Wesleyan College. Dr. McGhee talks about his earliest musical experiences. He also talks about his formative encounters with Spirituals. He gives advice on who can, and how to sing a Spiritual. He shares some Spirituals and Gospel songs that move him. Mentioned in the Episode: Mahalia Jackson - Trouble Of The World (Imitation Of Life - 1959)
February 6, 2021
S.2 Ep. 3: New Year's Resolutions?
This Week Phil and Adam are talking about their New Year's Resolutions or maybe not having New Year's Resolutions. Adam tells whether or not he has made resolutions this year. Phil shares some life long resolutions. Adam talks know the difference between our words intention vs. their function. They share a phrase that will help every Christian this year. Article mentioned in the episode: Good News for Resolution Failures
January 30, 2021
S.2 Ep. 2: How do We Heal?
This week Adam is back! Phil and Adam talk about how the US heals after intensely divisive political time. Adam offer four thoughts on healing our current situation. Phil shares a thought on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. " Letter from a Birmingham Jail". They both discuss music educator responsibility in these times. Link to the "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" and audio in MLKJ on voice:  
January 23, 2021
S.2 Ep. 1:Reflecting on the State of Politics
Happy New Year!! This week Phil and Adam are joined by Eric Severson. Eric is co-hosting in Adam's place because of voice affecting illness. They reflect on the Riot at the US Capitol. They also talk about what they have learned over the past year or beginning of this year.
January 16, 2021
Ep. 29: This Christmas
This week Phil and Adam talk Christmas. They share their family traditions during Christmas. They talk about their favorite Christmas Carol. What are your favorite Christmas Carols?
December 26, 2020
Ep. 28: Advent
This week Phil and Adam reflect on the season of Advent, Season of Waiting. They talk about it's meaning. Also, They reflect on music and scripture of this season. How do you observe the season of Advent, please share? Articles Mentioned: The Message of Advent Never Changes The Puzzle of Sin Want to Get Into the Christmas Spirit? Face the Darkness What I saw at The Jericho March
December 19, 2020
Ep. 26: Talking Friendship Part 2
This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about friendship. They revisit Jesus’s message in John 15:12-17. Then they talk about how the church sees singleness vs. marriage. How does the affection or a lack of affection from a father to a son affect how the child builds deep friendships in adulthood? Finally, are you my friend as I am?
December 12, 2020
Ep. 26: Talking Friendship Part 1
This week Phil and Adam talk about friendship.  With an article from The Washington Post for reference, Adam point to the Crisis of Friendship in the US. They look at David and Jonathan's relationship as a possible model for Biblical Friendship. Adam gives some helps on how to build and cultivate meaningful friendships. The Washington Post Article: No game days. No bars. The pandemic is forcing some men to realize they need deeper friendships. Bible References: 1 Samuel 18:1–4; 20:41–42; 2 Samuel 1:23, 26; John 15:12–17
December 5, 2020
Ep. 25: Podcast Collaboration with Ryan Case of Staying on the Narrow Path
This week Phil and Adam are invited to collaborate with Ryan Case on his podcast. They share with Ryan's audience how their lives have changed in 2020. Ryan askes them about how their teaching has changed during the pandemic. Phil and Adam talk about what they have learned in 2020.  Ryan's Podcast: Staying on the Narrow Path
November 28, 2020
Episode 24: Let's Talk Choosing Concert Repertoire with Adam's Students
How did you choose those pieces to sing? This week Phil and Adam talk choosing concert repertoire with some of Adam's current students. They share their memorable Chorale moments. They settle the question of program music or absolute music? Adam also gives some guidelines for programming a concert.
November 21, 2020
Ep. 23: with Pastors TJ Campo and Phil Letizia: A Pastoral Conversation
Phil and Adam have a conversation with Pastors TJ Campo, and Phil Letizia of Park Road Presbyterian Church. Phil L. talks about rethinking "Following Jesus" in relation to people with profound disabilities,  which is also the topic of his dissertation. TJ mentions the phrase "Need Love" which is revisited in various ways throughout the conversation. They both reflect on how pastoral ministry is different during COVID-19. After some encouragement, TJ and Phil L. share how Christian can reset as this contentious election cycle ends.
November 14, 2020
Ep.22: The 2020 US Presidential Election: Thoughts and Feels
Everyone take a breath, this week Phil and Adam reflection on the ending of the 2020 US Presidential Election.  They discuss the undermining of the US voting process, election integrity vs. voter suppression, and needing Jesus. What are your thoughts, fellow citizens and international observers alike? Disclaimer: Adam asks for mercy and grace as you listen. While being respectful, he is more unfiltered in this episode than most.
November 7, 2020
Ep. 21: with Michelle Selvaggio: A Conversation on Christian Education
Roll out the red carpet!! Phil and Adam are joined by their #1 Fan to have a conversation on Christian Education. Michelle shares her start in Christian Ed. They discuss the phrase "thinking God's thoughts after Him". Hear the pro and con of Christian Ed in comparison to other forms of education. Michelle shares how the Family, Church, and School come together in discipline to share grace and lovely correct students. Listen to the end to learn about Zoom Day.
October 31, 2020
Ep.20: "You don't know, what you don't know." Part 2
This week Phil and Adam revisit the phrase, " you don't know, what you don't know". They talk about how not knowing, (ignorance) can affect your life externally and how you see yourself internal. The conversation ends with talking about needing, and being an advocate for those who don't know, and not in positions of power. Hear their first voice message, and consider sharing the second.
October 24, 2020
Ep. 19: Vocation: "Can I find my Calling?"
This week Phil and Adam discuss the Christian View of Calling.  They ask questions like is it a fixed thing for your entire life? Adam gives three guides for considering a calling or vocation.  He shares what Mother Gloria Gaither taught him about calling. The Article Mentioned in Current Events: 2020 Is a Great Year for the Church
October 17, 2020
Ep. 18: "You don't know, what you don't know." Part 1
This week Phil and Adam discuss the phrase " You don't know, what you don't know".  Is ignorant an offensive word? They also reflect on moments of ignorants in their lives. Article links referenced to in the show:  Do You Know What You Don't Know? from Harvard Business Review The Power of Not Knowing. from 
October 10, 2020
Ep. 17: with Cailten Barron on Life's transitions @WSRTwPA(C)
This week Phil and Adam have a conversation with Cailten Barron, WSRTwPA(C). They share memories of their time together at Delta State University. Cailten shares her encouraging story about transitioning from teaching music to being an athletic missionary in Canada. They talk about remembering who the church is during COVID-19.
October 3, 2020
WSRT! with Phil & Adam Plug
There is no episode this week. Please, look out for our episode clips on Facebook and YouTube.
September 26, 2020
Ep 16: Passion and Career Trajectory
Phil and Adam are solo this week talk personal career goals. They discuss how you can be passionate and anxious about your work at the same time. They talk about the future of their careers. Phil brings up the saying "Those who can't Do, Teach". They mention the college choir that Adam conducts and in which Phil sung. Here is a link to their Instagram Page.  
September 19, 2020
Ep. 15: with Pastor Anthony Selvaggio: A Gospel Logic Liturgy
This week Phil and Adam revisit their conversation about liturgy with Pastor Anthony Selvaggio. Anthony shares a personal note about his early influences in Reformed Theology and Liturgy. He compares, and contrast being a one man band liturgist, and ordering by committee. They discuss how music can be a uniting force in liturgy. In this time of anxiety, fear, and sadness Anthony points to the Psalm as a spiritual vocabulary to talk with Jesus.  Rochester Christian Reformed Church YouTube Channel
September 12, 2020
Ep. 14: Orderly and Random Thoughts about our School Reopening Experiences
Both teachers, Phil and Adam muse their schools reopening during COVID-19. Phil is teaching in elementary school and Adam in college. Administrators, Educators, Parents, how are your school's opening experience going?
September 5, 2020
Ep. 13: with Yvonne Matthews: So Much Wisdom to Share
Phil was tripping over himself the whole episode this week because Mrs. Yvonne Matthews graced them with her presence. They only scratched the surface of stories and wisdom that Mrs. Matthews could share. She has been and is a surrogate mother to so many students in her life. Mrs. Matthews shares how many of those student have given back to her. Website: | Facebook: @yvonnematthewsmusic | Instagram: yvonnematthews_music | Twitter: @yvonnes_music
August 29, 2020
Episode 12: with Ryan Luhrs: Liturgy Part 1
Phil and Adam talk about liturgy this week with Ryan Luhrs. Ryan gives an acronym to focus our understanding of liturgy. They also talk about how Ryan uses choral music of different traditions to bring people together.  Link: The Hymn of the Week Virtual Choir
August 22, 2020
Ep. 11: WSRTwPA in Retrospective
This week Phil and Adam reflect on starting a podcast. Adam has a candid real time response to breaking news. What moments have you enjoyed from the first 10 episodes of their podcast?
August 15, 2020
Episode 10: with Gary Matthews: Church Music and More Part 2
This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about Church Music with Gary Matthews.  Gary expresses in various ways that music is the vehicle God has given him to minister to people.  He gives wisdom on how to expand the repertoire of a given congregation.  He shares with Phil and Adam the three characteristics need to lead worship. Contact Gary: |
August 8, 2020
Episode 9: with Julie Smith: Church Music and More Part 1
This week Phil and Adam talk being a musician and music leader in the church with Julie Smith. Julie shares her musical journey in church and about those who helped her along the way.   She gives insight on how she releases while leading the congregation in music.  They talk about the deliciousness of Julie's food Instagram page. Julie's Contact Info: | IG:  juliee.smith624 | Facebook: Julie Smith
August 1, 2020
Episode 8: with Azia Wiggins: Her piece: "Ode to Black Men"
Azia Wiggins reflects with Phil and Adam about developing and rediscovering writing. She talks about her recent piece Ode to Black Men. Phil and Adam ask her about her passion for her hometown. Click here for Azia's piece Contact Azia: | IG: Virtuousbeauty88 | Twitter: Mrahaba88
July 25, 2020
Episode 7: with Janette LaBarre: The Arts & COVID-19
Janette LaBarre joins Phil and Adam this week to talk about the Arts and COVID-19. They converse about how Arts organizations are pivoting during this time and how they can continue to innovate after the pandemic. She points to an Arts organization's mission statement to guide them through this time.  Her contact Info:
July 18, 2020
Episode 6: Servant Leadership Part 2
Phil and Adam continue their conversation on servant leadership shaping choral culture.  Current Events Corner gets a little spicy this week. For the choral resource mentioned click here
July 11, 2020
Episode 5: Servant Leadership Part 1
Phil and Adam are starting a conversation about Servant Leadership.  They talk about how this type of leadership influences a choir's culture.  For the choral resource mentioned click here
July 4, 2020
Episode 4: Why Music? Part 3
Phil and Adam official unveil the listener chosen title of their podcast. They continue their conversation about teachers and moments that lead them towards their musical professions. There is a conversation about brownies and the recurring segments.
June 27, 2020
Episode 3: Why Music? Part 2
Adam and Phil share music teachers and moments that shaped them as young musicians.  While retelling the moment Adam knew he wanted to be a choral director, he almost moves Phil to tears.  Also, listen to the song that is a part of that moment. Help Title Our Podcast by responding to the poll in this link Credit: O Day Full of Grace sung by Luther College Nordic Choir conducted by Jeffery Douma Click for a link to the video recording of the song.
June 20, 2020
Episode 2: Why Music? Part 1
Adam and Phil share their musical beginnings. They also introduce two recurring segments. Help Title Our Podcast by responding to the poll in this link
June 20, 2020
Episode 1: Introduction
In this first episode Adam Potter and Phil Woodard introduce themselves. They also discuss their commonalities and briefly share their personal stories. 
June 7, 2020