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Pod Have Mercy

By John Stephens/Matt Russell

Tune in every week for a lively conversation with Chapelwood's Senior Pastor, John Stephens and Executive Pastor, Matt Russell as they "go deep" on how today's church has changed and what the church will look like in the future!
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Episode 40: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. WILL WILLIMON

Pod Have MercyJan 28, 2021

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Episode 159: MICHELE RUSSEL

Episode 159: MICHELE RUSSEL

Today we are joined by a very special guest, Michele Russel! Michele Russell received her Master of Science degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from Fuller Theological Seminary in 1995. During her 22 years working in the field of mental health, she served as a staff counselor at Texas Children’s Hospital Learning Support Center and established the Eating Disorder Program at The Center for the Study of Addiction and Recovery at Texas Tech University, where she also served as Program Director. In 2014, Michele was the Program Director for the Theology and Community program at Duke Divinity School. From 2015-2017, she served as Social and Emotional Program Specialist at Small Steps Nurturing Center in Houston. Currently, she works at Kagey Family Counseling. Across these unique environments, Michele has found the opportunity to support social and emotional growth and resilience in individuals, families and communities to be deeply challenging and rewarding.

Apr 19, 202441:17
Episode 158: REPORTING FROM GREECE

Episode 158: REPORTING FROM GREECE

In this special episode, John Stephens and Josef Klam check in with us from their pilgrimage in the footsteps of the apostle Paul.



Apr 15, 202408:52
Episode 157: TOD BOLSINGER

Episode 157: TOD BOLSINGER

Join us this week as we dive deep into the realms of empathy, understanding, and grace with our special guest, Tod Bolsinger.


In this enlightening episode, Tod Bolsinger, renowned author, speaker, and leadership expert, shares his insights on navigating the complexities of leadership with empathy and humility. From leading with a compassionate heart to fostering inclusive communities, Tod offers invaluable wisdom for individuals striving to make a positive impact in their spheres of influence.


Whether you're a seasoned leader or someone seeking to cultivate a more compassionate approach to life, this episode of Pod Have Mercy promises to inspire and empower you on your journey towards greater understanding and empathy.


Tune in and join the conversation as we explore the transformative power of mercy in today's world. Don't miss out – hit play now and let compassion lead the way!

Apr 05, 202436:11
Episode 156: GOOD FRIDAY AND TEMPTATION

Episode 156: GOOD FRIDAY AND TEMPTATION

This week we talk about the three temptations of Jesus according to Richard Rohr. In Matthew’s Gospel, the temptations are not just isolated events but profound lessons for us all.

In the first temptation, Jesus confronts the challenge to misuse personal power. In a world where the allure of greatness and recognition can be overwhelming, Jesus teaches us the importance of humility and using power for the common good.

The second temptation takes us to the pinnacle of religious misuse. Here, Jesus resists the temptation to engage in transactional religion, emphasizing the true essence of transformation and spiritual growth over mere ritual.

Lastly, the third temptation exposes the allure of political power. While not inherently evil, Jesus shows us the dangers of wielding power without a deep grounding in moral values and service to the common good.

Join us as we navigate these timeless lessons, challenging ourselves to embrace our divine identity and wield power responsibly for the betterment of all.


Mar 29, 202424:30
Episode 155: PALM SUNDAY AND THE RODEO

Episode 155: PALM SUNDAY AND THE RODEO

This week we talk about the Rodeo and Holy Week. We talk about an article written by Ruth Haley Barton at transformingcenter.org. We also discuss how we can use the image of the crucifix as a visual cue for reflection.

Holy Week—is all of us going through the rhythm of death, burial, and resurrection. It is not a rhythm that any of us would willingly choose or even know how to choose; it is usually thrust upon us. Even Jesus admitted to having mixed feelings about the inevitability of it all. Now my soul is troubled.  And what should I say— “Father, save me from this hour?”  No, it is for this reason that I have come to this hour. (John 12:27)

Mar 22, 202423:28
Episode 154: WHAT IS TRUTH?!

Episode 154: WHAT IS TRUTH?!

This week we talk about truth! We examine how our perception of truth plays a pivotal role in shaping the narratives that influence our perspectives on issues ranging from politics to morality.

We also delve into the dynamic relationship between post-truth, Overton's Window, and the church. How does the evolving landscape of information impact religious institutions, and how do they, in turn, influence the broader cultural conversation?

Mar 15, 202427:39
Episode 153: WHAT IS GRACE?

Episode 153: WHAT IS GRACE?

Today we talk about grace! We talk about where we see grace in our every day lives and where we experience the kind of grace that cannot be earned.

Mar 08, 202424:47
Episode 152: ARSHIA KOMEILI

Episode 152: ARSHIA KOMEILI


Welcome to a powerful and inspiring episode of Pod Have Mercy, where we sit down with a remarkable individual who defied all odds to find freedom and self-expression. In this episode, we have the privilege of hosting Arshia Komeili, an Iranian rapper whose journey from persecution to redemption is nothing short of extraordinary.

Arshia's story begins in Iran, where he faced immense challenges due to his passion for activism and social justice. Fleeing from government persecution, Arshia made the courageous journey to the United States, seeking a life where he could freely express his beliefs and pursue his artistic endeavors.

Join us as Arshia shares the profound moments of his conversion and the challenges he encountered along the way. His incredible resilience and determination led him to Chapelwood United Methodist Church in Houston, Texas, where he found not only a community but also a place where he could be baptized, symbolizing a new beginning in his life.

Throughout the conversation, Arshia reflects on the power of music, faith, and the importance of embracing one's true self. As an Iranian rapper who found refuge in the United States, his story sheds light on the universal struggle for freedom, identity, and the pursuit of happiness.


Mar 01, 202452:15
Episode 151: BISHOP MANDE MUYOMBO RETURNS!

Episode 151: BISHOP MANDE MUYOMBO RETURNS!

This week we are joined again by Bishop Mande Muyombo! Bishop Mande Muyombo was elected to the episcopacy in 2017. He is the Resident Bishop of the North Katanga Area, which includes North Katanga, Tanganyika and Tanzania conferences in the Congo Central Conference of The United Methodist Church.


Feb 23, 202401:22:47
Episode 150: SUPER BOWL, TAYLOR SWIFT AND LENT

Episode 150: SUPER BOWL, TAYLOR SWIFT AND LENT

In this episode, join our lively discussions as we navigate the highs and lows of the 2024 Super Bowl, dissecting epic plays and unforgettable moments.

But that's not all – we'll also embark on a soulful journey into the Lenten season and Ash Wednesday, exploring the meaning behind the rituals and traditions that shape our spiritual landscapes.



Feb 16, 202437:49
Episode 149: WHAT IS GASTROCHURCH? (with Haley Brown)

Episode 149: WHAT IS GASTROCHURCH? (with Haley Brown)

Welcome to another episode of Pod Have Mercy! In this captivating installment, we have the delightful Haley Brown joining us to explore the artistry of charcuterie boards, the depths of spirituality, the joys of wine, and the intertwining threads of faith.

Haley, a seasoned connoisseur of charcuterie, takes us on a mouthwatering journey as she unveils the secrets behind creating the perfect board. From selecting the finest cured meats and cheeses to the artful arrangement of fruits and nuts, Haley's expertise turns this culinary endeavor into a true masterpiece.

But it doesn't stop there. Haley seamlessly intertwines her love for charcuterie with her profound spiritual journey. Join us as she shares her experiences of finding serenity and connection through the mindful creation of these boards, turning them into not just a feast for the senses but a sacred ritual.

Gastrochurch www.gastrochurch.org @gastrochurchhtx 

Bee Well World www.beewellworld.com @eatdrinkandbeewell 

Central City Co-Op 

https://centralcityco-op.com @CentralCityCoop 

https://mill-king.com/ @millkingmilk (Crawford & McGregor, Tx)

    • Half & Half
  • The Montrose Urban Food Farm 

https://www.urbanharvest.org/stec_event/gardening-for-pollinators-2/ (Montrose, Tx)

    • Purple Cauliflower
  • Other produce:
    • Pink Lady Apples – Farwell, Tx
    • Pineapple Oranges – Organie, Tx

Houston Dairymaids  https://www.houstondairymaids.com @dairymaids 

  • #1 Invierno
    • Diary: Vermont Shepherd (one of the oldest sheep dairies in the US)
    • Milk Type: Cow & Sheep
    • Raw or Pastuerized: Raw
    • Origin: USA, Vermont
    • Style: Firm
    • Notes: Rustic with natural rind and stone like appearance. Its paste is buttery and subtly sharp with nutty, toffee notes. This version, their winter seasonal, is aged for two years and is slightly crystalline. 
  • #2 OG Goat
    • Dairy: Kaasboerderij ‘t Groendal
    • Milk Type: Goat
    • Raw or Pasteurized: Pasteurized
    • Origin: Belgium
    • Syle: Firm
    • Notes: OG Goat is very special, it’s a 24month version of OG Kristal. A gouda recipe, this rich, dense cheese is sweet and complex.
  • #3 Tomarashi
    • Dairy: PT Reyes Cheese
    • Milk Type: Cow
    • Raw or Pasteurized: Pasteurized
    • Origin: USA, California
    • Style: Tomme
    • Notes: Tomarashi is a new version of Toma, a unique farmstead table cheese from PT Reyes Cheese Company. It has a natural rind, and a smooth, semifirm paste. The flavor is buttery with a hint of grass and tang to the finish. For TomaRashi, the added Schichimi Togarashi, a Japanese spice blend containing nori, toasted sesame, poppy and hemp seeds, chili flakes and ginger. The result is a spicy, savory cheese that is great for snacking or melting. 
  • #4 Bleu de Combremont
    • Dairy: Gourmino
    • Milk Type: Cow
    • Raw or Pasteurized:
    • Origin: Switzerland
    • Style: Blue
    • Notes: This new creamy blue comes in the shape of a cinder block. An expressive blue veined cheese from Combremont in the canton of Vaud in Western Switzerland. Blue cheeses are rare in Switzerland, and this one is made with the finest Alpine milk. 

A 2nd Cup https://a2ndcup.com @a2ndcup 

  • Cold Brew
  • Pint Glasses

Craft Pita 

https://www.craftpita.com/briargrove @craftpita

  • Spicy Hummus

Phoenicia Specialty Foods

 https://phoeniciafoods.com @phoeniciafoods 

  • Baked Pita Chips
  • Spicy Sopressata
  • Peppered Salami
Feb 09, 202448:42
Episode 148: WE'RE BACK!!

Episode 148: WE'RE BACK!!

Today we catch up on everything that happened over the break and talk about some exciting things that are coming in 2024!

Feb 02, 202433:10
Episode 147: CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!

Episode 147: CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!

This week is a special Christmas episode! We are joined by John's brother and mother today in studio! We talk about John and Matt's favorite Christmas memories, what they are excited for this year and much more!

Dec 15, 202337:04
Episode 146: DONATING CHRISTMAS GIFTS!

Episode 146: DONATING CHRISTMAS GIFTS!

Today we are joined by Suzanne Harter and Donna Watkins to talk about the ways that Chapelwood is partnering with the community during the holiday season.

Christmas Manna is a long-standing, much-loved Chapelwood tradition of matching families lacking the resources to buy Christmas toys, new clothes, and "extras" for their children with those willing to share some Christmas blessings. The program blesses the excited children, generous givers, and grateful parents who can breathe a little easier and smile a little brighter watching their children unwrap the tangible and intangible gifts of Christmas. The families are selected by the Communities on Schools managers at the SBISD schools.  These counselors work regularly with the families and know who is in need of an extra blessing during Christmas.


For more information on ways to get involved visit: Chapelwood.org/ChristmasManna

Dec 01, 202332:12
Episode 145: THANKSGIVING SPECIAL

Episode 145: THANKSGIVING SPECIAL

Happy Thanksgiving from Pod Have Mercy! Today we discuss our favorite Thanksgiving memories and what makes the holiday so special. We talk about the importance of gratitude and how we can practice thankfulness during this season.
Nov 22, 202327:12
Episode 144: BIRDS AND BEES
Nov 17, 202324:14
Episode 143: THE CEO OF MAUA METHODIST HOSPITAL (Justus M. Marete)
Nov 10, 202330:29
Episode 142: A CONVERSATION WITH REV. MICHAEL JARBOE

Episode 142: A CONVERSATION WITH REV. MICHAEL JARBOE

Today we are joined by Rev. Michael Jarboe! "Jarboe" is the Lead Pastor of The Journey Contemporary Worship Community at Memorial Drive Methodist Church. Today we talk about what is happening locally in the life of the church, how we can meet people where they are in the current technological age and the wonderful partnership that Chapelwood and Memorial Drive have found over the years.

Nov 03, 202326:21
Episode 141: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. PAUL CHILCOTE

Episode 141: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. PAUL CHILCOTE

This week we are joined by Dr. Paul Chilcote to discuss his new book, Multiplying Love.

We delve into Paul's extensive work, which spans across decades and continents, focusing on his pioneering contributions to Wesleyan theology and Methodist studies.

Listeners will have the opportunity to hear about Paul's deep commitment to social justice and how he integrates faith into real-world issues. With a compassionate approach, Paul's wisdom offers a unique perspective on how spirituality can be a force for positive change in our communities.

Join us as we embark on a journey of faith, transformation, and the enduring impact of Paul Chilcote's work.

Oct 27, 202301:02:17
Episode 140: MISSION TRIP TO INDIA
Oct 20, 202323:56
Episode 139: A PRAYER FOR PEACE IN ISRAEL AND GAZA

Episode 139: A PRAYER FOR PEACE IN ISRAEL AND GAZA

This week we have a quick conversation about ways that we can respond to the turmoil in Israel and Gaza. We talk about the background of the dispute and how we can pray for those who are affected by the violence.

Oct 13, 202319:15
Episode 138: DAVID WORTHINGTON AND THE NEW ROOM
Sep 29, 202354:44
Episode 137: THE BOOK OF JOEL

Episode 137: THE BOOK OF JOEL

Today we talk about the Book of Joel, an ancient prophetic text, and discover its astonishing parallels with the contemporary Christian Church. We explore the timeless wisdom and insights embedded within this often overlooked book, revealing its striking relevance to our present-day faith and community. We'll navigate through themes of repentance, restoration, and revival, drawing connections between the historical context of Joel's time and the spiritual landscape of today.

Sep 22, 202348:13
Episode 136: THE CHURCH IN EXILE

Episode 136: THE CHURCH IN EXILE

This week on the podcast we discuss Russell Moore's book, Losing Our Religion. We also reflect on an article that Moore wrote about exile. We catch up on what John and Matt have been up to lately and we cover many more topics!

Sep 15, 202345:38
Episode 135: ADDICTION AND THE PANDEMIC
Sep 08, 202342:54
Episode 134: MERCY STREET AND MAGGIE WOOD
Sep 01, 202341:17
Episode 133: WE'RE BACK!

Episode 133: WE'RE BACK!

Matt and John are back in studio after an extended summer break. Today we discuss what they've been up to the past few months and what is coming for the future of the podcast! We also reflect on an article written by David French called, "How Did America Get Mean?".

Aug 25, 202345:11
Episode 132: YOUNG PASTORS IN THE UMC

Episode 132: YOUNG PASTORS IN THE UMC

Today we are joined by Rev. DeAndre Johnson, Rev. Lindsay Kirkpatrick and Rev. David Horton. We talk about their experiences as young clergy, why they remain in The United Methodist Church and their hopes for the future!

Jun 30, 202338:26
Episode 131: BISHOP THOMAS J. BICKERTON

Episode 131: BISHOP THOMAS J. BICKERTON

Today we are joined by Bishop Thomas Bickerton!

As a respected bishop, Bishop Bickerton carries immense responsibilities, serving on the General Board of Global Ministries, the Standing Committee on Central Conference affairs, and the Commission on the General Conference. With an impressive tenure that spans several decades, he brings a wealth of knowledge and a true global perspective to our conversations.

From his early days as a student pastor in West Virginia to his transformational leadership in Western Pennsylvania and beyond, Bishop Bickerton's impact on countless lives is immeasurable. His dedication to the growth and vitality of local churches has resulted in remarkable milestones, including significant increases in baptisms, professions of faith, and church membership.

Beyond the walls of the church, Bishop Bickerton has engaged in ministry across the globe, working with Volunteer-in-Mission teams in diverse locations such as Africa, Argentina, Israel, Mexico, Russia, Cuba, and the U.S. Gulf Coast. These experiences have provided him with a profound understanding of the importance of ministering to all of God's children.

With a passion for equipping others, Bishop Bickerton has authored the book "What Are We Fighting For: Coming Together Around What Matters Most," accompanied by enriching study resources. His influential voice is also featured as a contributing author in the book "The Future of the United Methodist Church."

Join us as we explore the depths of Bishop Bickerton's faith, his vision for the church, and his unwavering commitment to making disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world. Prepare to be inspired, challenged, and uplifted by the remarkable journey of Bishop Thomas J. Bickerton.


Jun 23, 202322:28
Episode 130: BISHOP MICHAEL MCKEE

Episode 130: BISHOP MICHAEL MCKEE

Today we are joined by Bishop Michael McKee! Bishop McKee is the dean of SMU’s Perkins School of Theology. He has served as episcopal leader of the North Texas Annual Conference since his election by the South Central Jurisdiction in 2012, and he retired from that position on January 1, 2023.

We catch up with Bishop McKee and his involvement at the Texas Annual Conference and about his hopes for the future of The United Methodist Church.

Jun 16, 202317:34
Episode 129: GOD IS DOING A NEW THING

Episode 129: GOD IS DOING A NEW THING

This week we are recording at the Texas Annual Conference and we are joined by 3 pastors who are planting new churches! Rev. David Briggs, Rev. Shuler Sitsch and Rev. Jennifer Hodson talk about the process of planting new churches, what God is doing in their communities and their hopes for the future of the United Methodist Church and their congregations.

Jun 09, 202332:46
Episode 128: HOW TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS (with Tod Bolsinger)
Jun 02, 202338:04
Episode 127: GOD AND WHISKEY (with Drew McIntyre)
May 26, 202301:00:36
Episode 126 : WOMEN IN MINISTRY

Episode 126 : WOMEN IN MINISTRY

This week we are joined by Rev. Tammy Heinrich, Rev. Sarah Barnett, Rev. Melissa Maher, Rev. Joy Johnston and Rev. Rachel Sciretti!
May 12, 202301:01:18
Episode 125: BEST OF POD HAVE MERCY - DR. RUDY RASMUS
May 05, 202301:03:15
Episode 124: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. LUKE POWERY

Episode 124: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. LUKE POWERY

The Rev. Dr. Luke A. Powery is the dean of Duke University Chapel and associate professor of homiletics at Duke Divinity School. A national leader in the theological study of the art of preaching, Powery regularly delivers sermons at Duke Chapel as well as at churches throughout the United States and abroad. He is often a keynote speaker and lecturer at educational institutions, conferences, symposia, and retreats.

His teaching and research interests are located at the intersection of preaching, worship, pneumatology, and culture, particularly expressions of the African diaspora. He is the author of Spirit Speech: Lament and Celebration in PreachingDem Dry Bones: Preaching, Death, and HopeRise Up, Shepherd! Advent Reflections on the Spirituals; and Were You There? Lenten Reflections on the Spirituals. He has co-authored an introductory textbook on preaching, Ways of the Word: Learning to Preach for Your Time and Place. He is also a general editor of the nine-volume lectionary commentary series for preaching and worship titled Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship.

Apr 28, 202346:56
Episode 123: SPIRITUAL FORMATION

Episode 123: SPIRITUAL FORMATION

This week we talk about how the parallels between spiritual formation and Live Oak trees and how faith communities can act as a root system to hold each other together through times of crisis.

Apr 14, 202334:29
Episode 122: RICHARD ROHR AND GOOD FRIDAY
Apr 07, 202319:37
Episode 121: HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE?
Mar 31, 202355:51
Episode 120: CATCHING UP

Episode 120: CATCHING UP

Today we catch up with John and Matt. Matt has been out for the last few weeks of the podcast so we talk about his recent trip to Cambridge where he spent time teaching and preaching. We discuss some recent news about The Southern Baptist convention and women in ministry. We talk about how The Church of England is exploring gender neutral terms to refer to God in prayers and much more!

Mar 24, 202344:26
Episode 119: PROFESSOR DOUGLAS CAMPBELL
Mar 17, 202301:08:25
Episode 118: BISHOP MANDE MUYOMBO

Episode 118: BISHOP MANDE MUYOMBO

Bishop Mande Muyombo was elected to the episcopacy in 2017. He is the Resident Bishop of the North Katanga Area, which includes North Katanga, Tanganyika and Tanzania conferences in the Congo Central Conference of The United Methodist Church.

Bishop Muyombo joins us in studio this week to talk UMC issues and how we need to revive, renew and reclaim who we have always been as United Methodists. 

Mar 10, 202301:22:40
Episode 117: THE ASBURY REVIVAL

Episode 117: THE ASBURY REVIVAL

Today we are joined by Keith Cowart. Bishop Cowart is a graduate of Georgia Southern University and Asbury Seminary for the M.Div. and D.Min. degrees. He and his wife Pam, who is also a graduate of the Seminary, have two adult sons. In 1997 Keith planted Christ Community Church in Columbus, Georgia, where he served for 21 years as lead pastor. Christ Community planted or played a major role in planting four other churches and sent out more than 35 men and women to serve as pastors, parachurch ministry directors, military chaplains and missionaries around the world.

Today we talk about the Asbury Revival. Keith was able to spend a few days at Asbury while the revival was taking place and talks about his experience. 

Mar 03, 202301:06:48
Episode 116: A CONVERSATION WITH JOY JOHNSTON AND ANDREW WOLFE

Episode 116: A CONVERSATION WITH JOY JOHNSTON AND ANDREW WOLFE

This week we are joined by Joy Johnston and Andrew Wolfe. Joy and Andrew are two new pastor's here at Chapelwood. We get to know a little bit about their background and we also talk about mental health, trauma and what they are experiencing both here at Chapelwood and in other communities around Houston. 

Feb 24, 202344:03
Episode 115: A CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS KOLKHORST

Episode 115: A CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS KOLKHORST

Today we are joined by Chris Kolkhorst. Chris started a podcast called The Gritmen Show. The Gritmen Show is dedicated to the preservation and advancement of grit, something we believe may be on the verge of extinction. The show features entertaining interviews and discussions of grit in popular culture, news, sports and history. Most of all, this show highlights stories of grit and how we can pass this endangered trait along to our next generation.

In this episode we talk about Chris's career as a baseball player start with The Rice Owls and later getting drafted by The San Diego Padres and playing Double-A Baseball. We talk grit, faith and much more. 

Feb 17, 202346:09
Episode 114: COMMUNITY BUILDING IN SPRING BRANCH(with Paul Meiller and Joseph Rios)

Episode 114: COMMUNITY BUILDING IN SPRING BRANCH(with Paul Meiller and Joseph Rios)

This week we are joined by Paul Meiller and Joseph Rios. Paul is the newly appointed pastor of Chapelwood's Fair Haven Campus. Joseph is the pastor of Generations, the Spanish ministry at Chapelwood. Today we discuss how Paul made his way to Chapelwood, his process of joining forces with Joseph Rios to build community in Spring Branch and much more! 


Feb 10, 202342:14
Episode 113: A CONVERSATION WITH DR. KITTY HARRIS
Feb 03, 202301:01:56
Episode 112: THE 8 STRANGEST CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS ON EARTH

Episode 112: THE 8 STRANGEST CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS ON EARTH

Today we are doing a special Christmas pop-up episode! Before we break for the holiday's, Matt and John are in studio to talk about the 8 strangest Christmas traditions on earth. We talk about their holiday plans, some exciting things coming up at Chapelwood over the holidays and much more! 

Dec 16, 202223:35
Episode 111: REV. DR. RUSSELL LEVENSON PART 2

Episode 111: REV. DR. RUSSELL LEVENSON PART 2

This episode is part two of a conversation with Dr. Russell Levenson. In this episode John and Russell talk about officiating weddings and some of the mishaps that have occurred over the years. They discuss how the Episcopal Church dealt with some of the issues that the United Methodist Church are dealing with now and how Russell leads his congregation and prioritizes unity. 

Dec 02, 202247:23
Episode 110: WILL WILLIMON PART 2

Episode 110: WILL WILLIMON PART 2

We are joined again by Will Willimon to talk about his new book, "Don't Look Back". We talk about the future of the Methodist Church and how we look forward and find hope. We discuss ways to promote unity and conversation instead of isolating each other. 

Nov 23, 202237:03