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Poetry Koan

Poetry Koan

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A poem in the shape of a person talks to a person in the shape of a poem.
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Episode 34: Bryony Littlefair's Tara Miller

Poetry KoanFeb 11, 2021

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Episode 54: Poetry Is A Destructive Force (Awimbawe Chop Suey)

Episode 54: Poetry Is A Destructive Force (Awimbawe Chop Suey)

Brigit Pegeen Kelly reads for Wallace Stevens' poem "Poetry Is A Destructive Force" and we then discuss.

Poetry Is a Destructive Force That's what misery is, Nothing to have at heart. It is to have or nothing. It is a thing to have, A lion, an ox in his breast, To feel it breathing there. Corazón, stout dog, Young ox, bow-legged bear, He tastes its blood, not spit. He is like a man In the body of a violent beast. Its muscles are his own . . . The lion sleeps in the sun. Its nose is on its paws. It can kill a man.

TOPICS COVERED: Acceptance, Aggression, Animal nature, Appetite, Blood as essence, Civilization's facade, Consumption, Destructive instincts, Dominance and submission, Ego and identity, Ethical paradoxes, Experiential essence, Fear and survival, Flesh consumption, Human-animal dichotomy, Hunger (physical and metaphorical), Inner violence, Innocence as facade, Instinctual heritage, Joy in presence, Killing for pleasure, Love and connection, Man as predator, Meat industry cruelty, Misery's depth, Moral contradictions, Nature of happiness, Nietzsche's philosophy, Pain and suffering, Pleasure principle, Poetry's power, Predatory behavior, Primal fears, Romantic love, Sacrifice and consumption, Sexuality, Social constructs, Suffering's universality, Survival instincts, Violence inherent in life, Vulnerability of being, Wagner and Beethoven (cultural references), Words vs. experience, Yorgos Lanthimos's "Poor Things"


Sources and influences: BBC's "The Moral Maze," Frank O'Hara's "Lunch Poems," Nietzsche's writings on transformation and values, Yorgos Lanthimos's film "Poor Things". Music = Fela's Zombie, Tokens' Lion Sleeps Tonight, and System Of A Down's Chop Suey.

Mar 03, 202422:12
Episode 53: Killing Rabbits (Seven Days/Shelter From The Storm)

Episode 53: Killing Rabbits (Seven Days/Shelter From The Storm)

Are there any connections to be made between Miroslav Valek's poem Killing Rabbits (read here by the American poet Brigit Pegeen Kelly), and Craig David's R&B "banger" Seven Days from the year 2000?

Many.


Killing Rabbits

On Sunday after breakfast, when air is halfway to ice, and thin flutes of mice squeak in the chimney. On Sunday after breakfast to walk on virgin snow to the hutches. For the pink right to remove your gloves. To stick them on the picket fence like freshly severed palms, and to blow smoke through the wire-net door. Then to insert a searching hand, and speak sweet words through smoke-stained teeth, cajolery, fine words, to pity a bit, to grab the skin firmly and to lift it from the cosy straw. On Sunday after breakfast to sniff ammonia. With your left hand to hold the head down, watch the ears turn purplish, tenderly to stroke the nape, blow on it, and suddenly with the right hand to strike the nape. Once more to feel on your hand the pushing off for the unrealised leap, to feel a heaviness in your hand, sweetness, to hear Rabbit Heaven open, and big clumps of fur falling down. Viennese blue, Belgium Giant, French Baron, Bohemian Skewbald Dappled. But even the mongrel with all kinds of blood, each dies as fast as the next and without a word. On Monday to have rings under your eyes, silent. On Tuesday to consider the lot of the world. On Wednesday and Thursday to invent the steam engine and discover stars. On Friday to think of others, but mainly blue eyes, all week to pity orphans and admire flowers. On Saturday to scrub yourself pink and fall asleep on her lips. On Sunday, after breakfast, to kill rabbits.

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The image I've used for this episode was created by the Oracle after being shown a photograph I'd taken earlier on in the day of a cute little slug and spider duo hanging out together on my windowsill. I asked GPT to commemorate their loving connection through a portrait in the style of Maria Sibylla Merian (1647–1717).

Maria Sibylla Merian's work is known for its unparalleled attention to detail, especially in her studies of insects and plants. Merian's work in the late 17th and early 18th centuries was groundbreaking, not only for its artistic beauty but for its scientific accuracy. She meticulously documented the life cycles of insects, making detailed observations that were far ahead of her time, integrating precise scientific detail with artistic elegance. Her dedication to capturing the minutiae of her subjects has left a lasting impact on both art and science, making her work an exceptional example of the fusion of detailed observation and aesthetic beauty.

Feb 19, 202422:11
Episode 52: The Orchard

Episode 52: The Orchard

All we need is love. For something and/or someone.


Also poetry.


Feb 14, 202412:56
Episode 51: Things I Want Decided

Episode 51: Things I Want Decided

Inspired by Nader, Farritor and Schilliger's recent AI-assisted decryption of ancient texts, netting them the $1m Vesuvius Challenge Prize, I attempt to crack the code of a 1000 year old Japanese poem using Google's Gemini chatbot.

I pose to Gemini the four cryptic questions in the form of a poem about love's paradoxes by Izumi Shikibu, whose work was celebrated by Kenneth Rexroth with the following words: “Of all the poets of the classical period, she has, to my mind, the deepest and most poignant Buddhist sensibility.”

Can the latest Oogly Woogly Google tech finally solve riddles that have puzzled human readers and thinkers for centuries?

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Things I Want Decided

Which shouldn’t exist in this world, the one who forgets or the one who is forgotten? Which is better, to love one who has died or not to see each other when you are alive? Which is better, the distant lover you long for or the one you see daily without desire? Which is the least unreliable among fickle things— the swift rapids, a flowing river, or this human world?


-Izumi Shikibu (tr. Jane Hirshfield)


Feb 10, 202424:20
Episode 50: LABATYD

Episode 50: LABATYD

An episode inspired by Tadeusz Dąbrowski's poem "Sentence", Nick Flynn's "Tattoo" and Jack Gilbert's "The Answer":


SENTENCE

It's as if you'd woken in a locked cell and found in your pocket a slip of paper, and on it a single sentence in a language you don't know.
And you'd be sure this sentence was the key to your life. Also to this cell.
And you'd spend years trying to decipher the sentence, until finally you'd understand it. But after a while you'd realize you got it wrong, and the sentence meant something else entirely. And so you'd have two sentences.
Then three, and four, and ten, until you'd created a new language.
And in that language you'd write the novel of your life. And once you'd reached old age you'd notice the door of the cell was open. You'd go out into the world. You'd walk the length and breadth of it,
until in the shade of a massive tree you'd yearn for that one single sentence in a language you don't know.

TATTOO


You do know, right, that between the no-

longer & the still- to-come

you are being continually tattooed, inked

with the skulls of everyone

you’ve ever loved—the you & the you

& the you & the you—you don’t sit in a chair, thumb

through a binder, pick a design, it simply

happens each time you bring your fingers to your face

to inhale him back into you . . . tiny skulls, some of us are

covered. You, love, could

simply tattoo an open door, light

pouring in from somewhere outside, you

could make your body a door so it appears you

(let her fill you) are made of light.

THE ANSWER

Is the clarity, the simplicity, an arriving
or an emptying out? If the heart persists
in waiting, does it begin to lessen?
If we are always good, does God lose track
of us? When I wake at night, there is
something important there. Like the humming
of giant turbines in the high-ceilinged stations
in the slums. There is a silence in me,
absolute and inconvenient. I am haunted
by the day I walked through the Greek village
where everyone was asleep and somebody began
playing Chopin, slowly, faintly, inside
the upper floor of a plain white stone house.


TOPICS COVERED: Alienation; Analytical preparation; Ashberry's trees; Authenticity; Birth and self-discovery; Boundaries of essence; Communication dynamics; Confinement vs. liberation; Consciousness; Contemplation of existence; Cosmic symbolism; Cultural backgrounds; Daily Mail controversy; Deciphering life's language; Developmental path; Disorientation and discovery; Emotional reactivity; Enlightenment and insight; Estrangement and alienation; Ethical boundaries in therapy; Experience of reading a poem; Exploration of self; Expression and concealment; Fowles' "The Magus"; Genie metaphor; Gilbert's "The Answer"; Goldilocks metaphor; Human existential trajectory; Identity construction; Illusion of continuity; Individuality vs. collective unconscious; Intercostal nerves and pain; Interpersonal misunderstanding; Interpretation of symbols; Introspection and growth; Kabbalah and symbolism; Language as a cage; Language's role in suffering; Liberation magic; Life-defining tattoos; Linguistic clichés; Locked cell metaphor; Masson's "Final Analysis"; Merwin's trees; Misunderstanding as growth; Mystic union with God; Narrative construction; Neurological aspects of communication; Personal biases; Physical and mental isolation; Poetic inspiration; Potential for exploitation; Psychoanalytic dynamics; Ramanujan's trees; Recycled materials of past experiences; Relational nuances; Revelation of self-awareness; Rites of passage; Self-awareness dawning; Semiotics of Hebrew letters; Silence and bliss; Social contexts; Spiritual symbolism; Stafford's "The Interior Castle"; Symbolic language complexity; Symbolic realm's labyrinth; Symbols interpretation; Tattoo as therapeutic act; Therapeutic boundaries; Transformation through language; Unraveling of human story; Vulnerability and humility.

[⁠Transcript of episode⁠]

Feb 07, 202442:50
Episode 49: Variations on the Right to Remain Silent

Episode 49: Variations on the Right to Remain Silent

Being an Anne Carson megafan (looking forward to her new collection Wrong Norma published this month) I decided to spend an evening with an artefact she created in 2016 called Float comprising 22 chapbooks held together in whatever order you choose to read them in, one of which is an essay that I’m about to read here.

This essay, "Variations on the Right to Remain Silent", is also linked to my favourite poem in Float which can be found in the chapbook Candor, written originally for a performance piece with dancer Rashaun Mitchell.


COULD I

If you are not the free person you want to be you must find a place to tell the truth about that. To tell how things go for you. Candor is like a skein being produced inside the belly day after day, it has to get itself woven out somewhere. You could whisper down a well. You could write a letter and keep it in a drawer. You could inscribe a curse on a ribbon of lead and bury it in the ground to lie unread for thousands of years. The point is not to find a reader, the point is the telling itself. Consider a person standing alone in a room. The house is silent. She is looking down at a piece of paper. Nothing else exists. All her veins go down into this paper. She takes her pen and writes on it some marks no one else will ever see, she bestows on it a kind of surplus, she tops it off with a gesture as private and accurate as her own name.


I've called "Variations on the Right to Remain Silent" an essay, but I prefer to think of it as An Event, or a kind of Performance - or a weird and delightful lecture.

If you’re anything like me, finding such a koan is usually followed by an overwhelming desire to share. Hence. 


POEMS REFERRED TO IN THIS EPISODE:

Fragment 286

In spring, on the one hand, the Kydonian apple trees, being watered by streams of rivers where the uncut garden of the maidens [is and vine blossoms swelling beneath shady vine branches, bloom. On the other hand, for me Eros lies quiet at no season. Nay rather, like a Thracian north wind ablaze with lightning, rushing from Aphrodite accompanied by parching madnesses, black, unastonishable, powerfully, right up from the bottom of my feet [it] shakes my whole breathing being.

-Ibykos (translation by Carson)


Tubingen, January

Eyes talked over to blindness. Their— riddle is the purely orginated"—, their memory of swimming Hölderlintowers, gull- whirredaround.

Visits of drowned joiners to these diving words: Came, came a man, came a man to the world, today, with the lightbeard of the prophets: he could, if he spoke of this time, he could, only stammer and stammer, over-, over- againagain. ("Pallaksch. Pallaksch.")


-Paul Celan (translation by Carson)

TOPICS/THEMES:


Adam and Eve,

Aphrodite,

Artistic representation and interpretation,

Authenticity and translation,

Bacon, Francis,

Catastrophe as a creative force,

Celan, Paul,

Cliché and its avoidance,

Communication barriers,

Consciousness and self-awareness,

Divine versus human language,

Greek lyric poetry,

Historical and cultural translation,

Hölderlin, Friedrich,

Immortality and the divine,

Individual versus authority conflict,

Joan of Arc,

Language's limitations and potential,

Madness as a method of understanding,

Metaphorical versus literal interpretation,

Mythology's influence on art and literature,

Nature of reality and perception,

Personal identity and expression,

Power of silence and absence,

Rembrandt,

Relationship between language and thought,

Role of the translator,

Sacred versus profane knowledge,

Struggle against conventional norms,

Subjectivity of experience,

Untranslatability and the ineffable,

Violence and its representation

Feb 02, 202453:21
Episode 48: You See, I Want A Lot

Episode 48: You See, I Want A Lot

An episode inspired by two Dalton Day poems: "Love Poem" and "An Understanding" (from the chapbook Overlay).

All poems referenced in the episode (in order of appearance):  

YOU SEE I WANT A LOT

You see, I want a lot. Perhaps I want everything: The darkness that comes with every infinite fall And the shivering blaze of every step up.

So many live on and want nothing And are raised to the rank of prince By the slippery ease of their light judgments

But what you love to see are faces That do work and feel thirst…

You have not grown old, And it is not too late to dive Into your increasing depths where life Calmly gives out its own secret.

-Rilke

LOVE POEM

Every now & then like a gazillion cicadas dig their way out of the dark earth & they are screaming against the air, against the very thing they have clawed their way into, & the time we call summer is stitched with this terror, this gratitude for knowing something will happen & still having some sense of awe when it actually does, & what I'm saying is, I feel like that, even when I don't.

-Dalton Day

AN UNDERSTANDING

Because howling is scary we begin to cover our eyes.

Because covering our eyes is scary we begin to go underground.

Because going underground is scary we begin to talk to each other. Because talking to each other is scary we begin to howl.

One time, I knew your name. I said it to you every night. It sounded like AOOOOOOOOO AOOOOOOOOO AOOOOOOOOO.

-Dalton Day

STOP THINKING AND END YOUR PROBLEMS

How do I know that it’s “good”? I can’t compare it to anything. I think it’s largely unconscious, feels like a collective decision, not a chain of events. I think you just have to let it wash over you, like pain. I think of it as a very dramatic form of giving up. (It is pitch black outside, not the colour black but rather a complete absence of light.) I think it’s related to how you pick up your friends’ speech patterns. But more unsettling and intense. I just think it’s weird to sit around waiting to develop a sixth sense. I think it’s fooling yourself into thinking you’re thinking. I think it’s philosophical and physical and have not gotten a good answer.

Everything reminds me of it, but I don’t know what “it” is.

-Elisa Gabbert (remixed version | full poem)

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LINKS: 

Saved By A Poem (Kim Rosen)

Becoming Animal: An Earthly Cosmology (David Abram)

The Wheels On The Bus (Noodle & Pals Version)

Drop It Like It's Hot (Snoop Dogg)

Brown Cicada Being Made To Scream By A Human Animal

Going Sane (Adam Phillips)

Dvořák: Gypsy Melodies, Op. 55, B. 104 - IV. Songs My Mother Taught Me (Arr. Soltani For Solo Cello and Cello Ensemble)

I Want A Little Sugar In My Bowl (Nina Simone: Live Version | album track)

Transcript

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TOPICS COVERED IN THIS EPISODE (in alphabetical order):

Abram, David; Appetite; Awakenings; Becoming Animal; Being; Buddhism; Carnal Knowledge; Cicadas; Cloned Voices; Consciousness; Creativity; Dalton Day; Death; Desire; Disappointment; Disconnection; Dreams; Ego; Elisa Gabbert; Emergence; Emotion; Empathy; Enlightenment; Essence; Existentialism; Expression; Fear; Fulfillment; Gwyneth Paltrow; Healing; Hot Yoga Teachers; Human Experience; Identity; Imagination; Indigenous Tribes; Inevitability; Insights; Instinct; Intellectual Curiosity; Introspection; Joy; Knowledge; Language; Learning; Liberation; Life; Longing; Love; Love Poem; Mastery; Meaning-Making; Memory; Misfits; Music; Nature; Neurons; Nursery Rhymes; Pain; Passion; Perception; Philosophy; Poem; Poetry; Practice; Psychoanalysis; Psychotherapy; Reciprocity; Reflection; Relationships; Resonance; Rilke, Rainer Maria; Rituals; Rosen, Kim; Samsara; Self-Awareness; Self-Improvement; Shamanism; Sheffield; Social Dynamics; Somatic Memory; South-East Asia; Speechify; Spiritual; Suffering; Symbolism; Terror; Therapy; Thought; Transformation; Transcendence; Understanding; Utterance; Validation; Vision; Voice; Wanting; Workshop; Yoga; Zen.

Jan 31, 202427:53
Episode 47: Peaches
Jan 27, 202418:18
Episode 46: The World’s Loneliest Whale Sings the Loudest Song

Episode 46: The World’s Loneliest Whale Sings the Loudest Song

An episode inspired by Noor Hindi's poem 🐳 The World’s Loneliest Whale Sings the Loudest Song 🐳


The World’s Loneliest Whale Sings the Loudest Song & Other Confessions

I won’t make metaphors out of fish.

If I have to die, I choose the ocean. If I have to live, I choose you.

You: Everyone I’ve ever mourned.

I believe less & less of sunlight these days. I won’t die alone.

To awaken crying is to awaken displaced. Ghost of your joy in the bathtub. A face in the mirror. Your nephew’s painting in the foyer.

My mother cried in bedrooms growing up. I would study her for hours.

In a study, researchers learned patients who cried less are likely to have dismissive attachment styles.

Today, every bedroom in the house is mine. I stopped crying at age 12.

As a child, I spoke a language no one understood.

Research suggests loneliness increases cardiovascular disease.

When my cousin died, she died alone. When the world collapsed around Darwish, he wrote of coffee and sex.

When you held my body close to yours, I thought of clementines, sweet citrus, all the world’s lemons we’d temper with honey.

The world’s loneliest whale sings the loudest song.

This is what you’ll tell me the first time we meet.

And I’ll think about the ocean. And I’ll think about you.

I never learned how to swim. I’ve been drowning my whole life.

Studies suggest drowning lasts 1-3 minutes. But I’ll never stop grieving.

Scientists are still searching for the 52-hertz whale. But I swear he’s here. In my bedroom.

And I can hear him. And he’s telling me I can stop.

-Noor Hindi


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The Loneliest Whale In The World

The Tone Deaf Saltburn TikTok Dance Craze

Noor Hindi - FPAC Speaker Series Presentation

Jan 21, 202412:45
Episode 45: Breathless

Episode 45: Breathless

In this episode, I explore our longing for basic trust, weaving together poetry (Pat Schneider, Rilke), philosophy (the Stoical idea of Logos, Cosmic Indifference, Animism), and psychology (Ego Psychology, Object Relations, and the developmental impact of early relationships) in order to make sense of mistrust and the desire for deeper, authentic connections in our digital and fragmented world.

I suggest that this existential trust, foundational to well-being, is often found in the poetics of objects, putting us on the path to discovering the You we need in our lives.


SEGMENTS:


(00:00) The Art of Online Personas: Decoding the Facade of Dating Profiles

(03:00) Unveiling Basic Trust: Perspectives from A.H. Almaas on Digital Connections

(04:35) Stoic Echoes in the Modern Psyche: Linking Logos to Basic Trust

(05:18) Rational Cosmos, Illusion of Free Will: Stoicism's View on Life's Order

(08:41) Embracing Cosmic Virtue: Stoicism's Guide to Harmonious Living

(9:50) Cosmic Indifference versus Inherent Benevolence: A Philosophical Dilemma

(10:41) Science and the Search for Universal Goodness: The Stoic Conundrum Faced With Camus' Absurd

(12:46) The Formation of Self: Insights from Ego Psychology and Early Experiences

(13:24) Decoding Personality: The Role of The Enneagram and MBTI in Ego Development

(19:09) Assessing Basic Trust: A Basic Trust Assessment

(21:58) Animism: Rebuilding Trust through a Connected Worldview?

(25:20) Ordinary Things, Extraordinary Patience: Finding Connection in Animism?


The Patience of Ordinary Things


It is a kind of love, is it not?
How the cup holds the tea,
How the chair stands sturdy and foursquare,
How the floor receives the bottoms of shoes
Or toes. How soles of feet know
Where they’re supposed to be.
I’ve been thinking about the patience
Of ordinary things, how clothes
Wait respectfully in closets
And soap dries quietly in the dish,
And towels drink the wet
From the skin of the back.
And the lovely repetition of stairs.
And what is more generous than a window?


-Pat Schneider


The Inner Rose


Where is there for this inner
an outer? Upon which hurt
does one lay such fine linen?
And which heavens are reflected within them,
upon the interior seas
of these open roses, these carefree ones, see:
how loose in looseness
they lie, as if a trembling hand
could never tip them over.
They can hardly hold themselves
erect; many allow themselves
be filled all too full and flow
over from inner space
into the days, which, ever
more and more full, close in upon themselves,
until the entire summer becomes
a chamber, a chamber in a dream.


-Rainer-Maria Rilke (tr. Mitchell)


Resources and Reference:

-⁠Facets of Unity⁠ (A.H. Aalmas)

-In Our Time: Marcus Aurelius (Radio 4)

-The Handbook of Contemporary Animism (edited by Graham Harvey)

-Graham Harvey’s Animist Manifesto

-Michal Zerkowski's article about Irving Hallowell's research on the Ojibwe animism

-The Perception of The Environment: Essays on Livelihood, Dwelling, and Skill (Tim Ingold)


Music:

-⁠Breathless⁠ (Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds)

-⁠Chips & Dip⁠ (Sam Greenfield)

-⁠With You ⁠(Teenage Fanclub)

-⁠Nocturnes & Meditations ⁠(Matt Tondut) ⁠-Goldberg Variations, BWV 988: Variation 1 (Arr. for Harp)⁠ - Parker Ramsay

⁠-When Everything Fades⁠ (Matt Tondut)

Jan 14, 202430:58
Episode 44: Insanity

Episode 44: Insanity

Primarily an excuse to play you Tindersticks' gorgeous "Travelling Light", but also an attempt to unravel in 15 minutes the world of referential delusions, where ordinary events assume personal significance in ways that cross the boundary between quirky beliefs and mental disorders.

Meet, my ex-client 'Eric' and his unshakable notion that love signals are being played to him, and him alone, from a DJ's playlist who professes to have no romantic interest in him at all.

The poem mentioned in the episode is this one by Elizabeth Bishop:


One Art The art of losing isn’t hard to master; so many things seem filled with the intent to be lost that their loss is no disaster. Lose something every day. Accept the fluster of lost door keys, the hour badly spent. The art of losing isn’t hard to master. Then practice losing farther, losing faster: places, and names, and where it was you meant to travel. None of these will bring disaster. I lost my mother’s watch. And look! my last, or next-to-last, of three loved houses went. The art of losing isn’t hard to master. I lost two cities, lovely ones. And, vaster, some realms I owned, two rivers, a continent. I miss them, but it wasn’t a disaster. —Even losing you (the joking voice, a gesture I love) I shan’t have lied. It’s evident the art of losing’s not too hard to master though it may look like (Write it!) like disaster.

Jan 05, 202419:08
Episode 43: Loving What Is

Episode 43: Loving What Is

Parallels drawn between Marcus Aurelius's Meditations and Byron Katie’s Loving What Is, with a nod to the Philosopher King’s son, Commodus (“a bit of a shit” - Cassio Dio, History of the Roman Empire).


Also, some late Wallace Stevens, doing "The Work”.


The Plain Sense of Things

After the leaves have fallen, we return To a plain sense of things. It is as if We had come to an end of the imagination, Inanimate in an inert savoir. It is difficult even to choose the adjective For this blank cold, this sadness without cause. The great structure has become a minor house. No turban walks across the lessened floors. The greenhouse never so badly needed paint. The chimney is fifty years old and slants to one side. A fantastic effort has failed, a repetition In a repetitiousness of men and flies. Yet the absence of the imagination had Itself to be imagined. The great pond, The plain sense of it, without reflections, leaves, Mud, water like dirty glass, expressing silence Of a sort, silence of a rat come out to see, The great pond and its waste of the lilies, all this Had to be imagined as an inevitable knowledge, Required, as a necessity requires.

Jan 02, 202416:26
Episode 42: Ravenous Want

Episode 42: Ravenous Want

Our desire for meaningful communication with an inner or outer You in W.S. Graham's What Is The Language Using Us For, and Maureen McClane's Open Sky.


OPEN SKY open sky— what you want? what you want I want for you, want whatever you want when you say you want everything under the sky— is that what everyone wants never to die— what you want? what you want I want for you, want what you want when you say you want never to die except when you want nothing— what you want? nothing's something to want, something annihilating, something beyond want that stops at nothing— ravenous want

Jan 02, 202403:03
Episode 41: A Song For You

Episode 41: A Song For You

An exploration of Rilke's poem "⁠Du im Voraus verlorne Geliebte⁠," ("You Who Never Arrived"), alongside Leon Russell's "⁠A Song for You⁠," and Martin Buber's book I and Thou, delving into themes of elusive love, the intricacies of human connection, and the profound nature of both inner and outer I-You-ness. 

(00:00) "⁠You, In Advance, Lost Beloved⁠” 

(01:30) Only You (1994 Romantic Comedy - ⁠watch on YouTube⁠)

(03:39) The "Mission" of Rilke's "Du Im Voraus" & The Duino Elegies

(07:52) Learning Rilke on Walks in the Kent Countryside in 2019

(09:19) Rilke's Death at The Age of 51: Slain By A Rose?

(10:38) The Main Ideas Behind Buber's Book Ich und Du (I and Thou)

(13:25) Split Brain Personalities

(15:00) GPT-4's Enneagram Nursery Rhyme Inspired By "⁠This Little Piggy⁠"

(15:56) The Left-Hemisphere "I" Narrator Vs. the Right-Hemisphere "Self"

(18:15) Primate Evolution in the Great Rift Valley: From Forest Dwellers to Survivors of the Savannah

(20:48) Greed is Good? (⁠watch clip on YouTube⁠)

(21:40) The Emergence of the 'I' in Human Evolution

(23:10) Present-Focused Animate Consciousness vs. Conceptual Consciousness

(24:17) Social Interactions and Survival in Early Human Communities

(25:28) Theory of Mind

(31:03) Conceptual Self-Description and Mental "I"-Focused Time Travel

(32:27) The "I" as Podcaster, the Self as Listener 

(35:25) The Story Behind Leon Russell's "A Song For You"

(37:54) Analysis of Russell's Vocal Style 

(39:51) Leon Russell's Childhood and Struggles With Disability

(44:25) Evolutionary Human Lifespan Limits

(44:35) Vulnerability

(47:54) The Desire To Be "Seen Through"

(52:00) Buber's Three Spheres of I-You Relating

(53:20) Podcasts As Messages In A Bottle

(55:35) Finding You in Slug Trails and Solitary Spiders 

(56:30) Samuel Barber's ⁠Agnus Dei⁠ "You"

(57:00) Hello/Goodbye


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[Du im Voraus]

Du im Voraus verlorne Geliebte, Nimmergekommene, You, the loved one lost in advance, you who never arrived, nicht weiß ich, welche Töne dir lieb sind. I don’t even know what sounds you like best. Nicht mehr versuch ich, dich, wenn das Kommende wogt, zu erkennen. Alle die großen Bilder in mir, im Fernen erfahrene Landschaft, Städte und Türme und Brücken und un- vermutete Wendung der Wege und das Gewaltige jener von Göttern einst durchwachsenen Länder: steigt zur Bedeutung in mir deiner, Entgehende, an. so I try to discern you. All the great images in me—the landscape widening far off, cities and towers and bridges and un- suspected turns in the path and the forcefulness of those lands once intertwined with gods: they all mount up in me to signify you, forever not here. Ach, die Gärten bist du, You are the gardens. ach, ich sah sie mit solcher Hoffnung. Ein offenes Fenster im Landhaus - , und du tratest beinahe mir nachdenklich heran. With such hope I saw them. An open window in the country house–, and you almost stepped out pensively to meet me. Gassen fand ich, - du warst sie gerade gegangen, und die Spiegel manchmal der Läden der Händler waren noch schwindlich von dir und gaben erschrocken mein zu plötzliches Bild. I found streets, — you had just walked down them, and sometimes the mirrors in the merchants’ shops were still drunk with you and with a start reflected my too-sudden image. Wer weiß, ob derselbe Vogel nicht hinklang durch uns gestern, einzeln, im Abend? –Who knows if the same birdsong did not ring through both of us yesterday, each of us alone, at evening?


Dec 30, 202359:25
40. Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self: Part III (Longing)

40. Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self: Part III (Longing)

What might the essence of Rilke’s Egoic soul reveal to us, if we tried to put it into words, using all our knowledge of the poems transmitted through an Ich, Rilke’s Ich (aka Ego), over many years, as well as the letters, and notebooks, and biographies we have of him to guide us? This might also include our ability, now a century after Freud, to apply everything we have learnt in the last 100 years about the mechanism, or the Operating System of the Ego, the Self?

The word that I find best describes both the Panther’s predicament as well the predicament of Rilke’s Ich, is LONGING. It is this painful, and somewhat absurd emotional fixation that this episode mainly focuses on by examining the following three poems: 

THE PANTHER

His vision, from the constantly passing bars,

has grown so weary that it cannot hold

anything else. It seems to him there are

a thousand bars; and behind the bars, no world.


As he paces in cramped circles, over and over,

the movement of his powerful soft strides

is like a ritual dance around a center

in which a mighty will stands paralyzed.


Only at times, the curtain of the pupils

lifts, quietly--. An image enters in,

rushes down through the tensed, arrested muscles,

plunges into the heart and is gone.

-Rainer Maria Rilke (tr. Stephen Mitchell)

YOU WHO NEVER ARRIVED

You who never arrived

in my arms, Beloved, who were lost

from the start,

I don't even know what songs

would please you. I have given up trying

to recognize you in the surging wave of the next

moment. All the immense

images in me—the far-off, deeply-felt landscape,

cities, towers, and bridges, and un-

suspected turns in the path,

and those powerful lands that were once

pulsing with the life of the gods—

all rise within me to mean

you, who forever elude me.

You, Beloved, who are all

the gardens I have ever gazed at,

longing. An open window

in a country house—, and you almost

stepped out, pensive, to meet me. Streets that I chanced upon,—

you had just walked down them and vanished.

And sometimes, in a shop, the mirrors

were still dizzy with your presence and, startled, gave back

my too-sudden image. Who knows? perhaps the same

bird echoed through both of us

yesterday, separate, in the evening.

-Rainer Maria Rilke (tr. Stephen Mitchell)

LOVE DOGS

One night a man was crying,

Allah! Allah!

His lips grew sweet with the praising,

until a cynic said,

"So! I have heard you

calling out, but have you ever

gotten any response?"

The man had no answer to that.

He quit praying and fell into a confused sleep.

He dreamed he saw Khidr, the guide of souls,

in a thick, green foliage.

"Why did you stop praising?"

"Because I've never heard anything back."

"This longing

you express is the return message."

The grief you cry out from

draws you toward union.

Your pure sadness

that wants help

is the secret cup.

Listen to the moan of a dog for its master.

That whining is the connection.

There are love dogs

no one knows the names of.

Give your life

to be one of them.

― Jalal Al-Din Rumi (tr. Coleman Barks)

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Transcript: http://stevewasserman.co.uk/rilkes-panther-the-cage-of-self/

Dec 25, 202229:12
Episode 39: Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self - Part II (Empathy)

Episode 39: Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self - Part II (Empathy)

At the end of the 19th Century, art, and the study of art known as aesthetics, became a common point of convergence for two other new disciplines: Psychoanalysis, with its focus on unconscious/indirect experience, and Phenomenology, which in contrast to psychoanalytic psychology, sought to investigate consciousness and direct experience.

Psychologists at the time began to see how looking at people’s emotional responses to art, and the motivations that drove some to create it, could help explain aspects of human nature that had never been fully grasped before. One of these psycho-spiritual conundrums might be conceptualised by the follow question: What is a Self - which is to say: an “I”, a conscious, as well as self-conscious Ego? Also: what universal or variable factors might lie at the heart of such a phenomenon?

A crucial piece of this puzzle, in terms of understanding ourselves and others, arrived in the shape of something that the German philosopher Theodor Lipps called Einfühlung (“feeling into” or empathy). Freud used this notion of empathy in trying to “feel into” the inner world of himself and his patients in ways that had never been attempted before, and so did the young (26 year old) Rainer Maria Rilke, who had studied with Lipps, and was now setting out to apply these ideas in his writing.

Rilke would also learn about empathy at the knee of the sculptor August Rodin, who suggested he might like to empathically “regardez les animaux” (look at the animals) at the Jardin Des Plantes in Paris, where they were kept for this purpose. In applying himself to this special kind of looking, beginning with the task of watching a panther and writing about it, Rilke would learn not only something essential about himself, but also about the nature of the Egoic Self in general.

In this episode, we get a little bit closer to that understanding.

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Transcript: http://stevewasserman.co.uk/rilkes-panther-the-cage-of-self/

Nov 05, 202227:38
Episode 38: Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self - Part I (Hysteria)

Episode 38: Rilke's Panther & The Cage of Self - Part I (Hysteria)

On the 1st of May 1889, the young (33 year old) psychoanalyst-on-the-make Sigismund Schlomo Freud took on the case of a “a lady of about forty years of age”, a Frau Emmy von N., who we now know to be the Swiss noblewoman Baroness Fanny Louise von Sulzer-Wart. 

Baroness Fanny had married 29 years previously at the tender age of 23 the 65 year-old Swiss watchmaker and industrialist Heinrich Moser, who died 4 years after the marriage from a heart attack. In the minds of Moser’s five children from his previous marriage, the idea got around that Fanny might have toe-tagged their father after having him sire her two new Moser offspring with birthright claims to his vast fortune.

This is the first time that Freud decides to give his friend Josef Breuer’s technique of “investigation under hypnosis” a try-out as he attempts to help his new patient with her suffering somatizations (resembling very much the symptoms of Fibromyalgia today). Freud starts using techniques which will in time become (after he has ditched the overt hypnosis angle) his own special contribution to human animal therapeutics.

What have these initial forays into our so-called "hysterical" human Egos (Freud's word for the Ego was simply "Ich", I) got to do with a poem that Rainer Maria Rilke would write a decade or so later about a panther he'd spent a day watching behind bars in the Jardin des Plantes, in Paris? 

This first episode (part of a trio) begins exploring this koan, trying to join up some of these dots between one of Freud's first talking cure patients (Emmy/Fanny), with Joseph Mortimer Granville's invention of the medical vibrator (the percuteur) in 1880 and its uses by male doctors on their female patients' genitalia; James Strachey's mistranslations of Freud's Ich into Ego and the effect this would have on psychoanalytic thought and practice, and David Attenborough being chased around the Scottish Highlands by a large, angry grouse called The Caipercaillie.

Poems discussed in this episode:

THE PANTHER

His vision, from the constantly passing bars,
has grown so weary that it cannot hold
anything else. It seems to him there are
a thousand bars; and behind the bars, no world.

As he paces in cramped circles, over and over,
the movement of his powerful soft strides
is like a ritual dance around a center
in which a mighty will stands paralyzed.

Only at times, the curtain of the pupils lifts, quietly–.
An image enters in,
rushes down through the tensed, arrested muscles,
plunges into the heart and is gone.

-Rainer Maria Rilke (English translation by Stephen Mitchell)

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FIRST FOOTNOTE ON ZOOMORPHISM

It seems we have said too little about
the heart, per se,

how it sits in its chambered nub
of grease and echo

listening for movement in the farthest
reed beds — any feathered thing will do,

love being interspecific, here,
more often than we imagine.

If anything, I’d liken us to certain
warblers, less appealing in the wild

than how we’d look
in coloured lithographs,

yet now and then, I’m on the point of
hearing
bitterns at the far edge of the lake,

that cry across the marshes like the doom
you only get in books, where people die

so readily for love, each heart becomes
a species in itself, the sound it makes

distinctive, one more descant in the dark,
before it disappears into the marshes.

-John Burnside

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Transcript: http://stevewasserman.co.uk/rilkes-panther-the-cage-of-self/

Nov 01, 202217:47
Episode 37: To Be Real

Episode 37: To Be Real

What does it mean to be real. REALLY real? To be telling each other alive about each other alive etc.

I look to Mary Oliver’s Ten Commandments for living the good life, as well as her very Enneagram Nine-ish poem I Want To Write Something So Simply. Rilke’s Book of Hours also gets a look-in, as does WS Graham's Language Koan, Becker's Denial of Death, and Lizzo (avec Sasha).

Part of this must surely involve a very real "coming into Presence", which R.S. Thomas calls in The Bright Field,  “that pearl of great price”? And what better way to do that than through the Incomparable Cosmic Verve of Cheryl Lynn circa 1978.


Oct 07, 202239:19
Episode 36: The Tower (Robert Frost's Fire and Ice)

Episode 36: The Tower (Robert Frost's Fire and Ice)

An exploration of The Tower via Frost's Fire and Ice.

The Tower is an archetype which invites us to explore and consider sudden change, upheaval, and chaos in our lives, as well as a kind of revelation or awakening sometimes associated with the word "enlightenment" as it is sometimes linked to personal transformation. 

This particular exploration of The Tower, we make together via the following cultural stepping stones: 

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

ALL IS ARDOUR

All is ardour burning & blaze
Eye is ardour ear is ardour
nose lips tongue ardour
mind ardour body ardour
burning burning burning away.

Sound burning scent burning
taste burning touch burning
incandescent bone fires burning
burning pleasure burning pain<

Mar 22, 202236:34
Episode 35: To Love life? To Love it? (Ellen Bass's The Thing Is)

Episode 35: To Love life? To Love it? (Ellen Bass's The Thing Is)

Accepting the mixed-bag Now of our lives. Hard.

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THE THING IS

to love life, to love it even
when you have no stomach for it
and everything you’ve held dear
crumbles like burnt paper in your hands,
your throat filled with the silt of it.
When grief sits with you, its tropical heat
thickening the air, heavy as water
more fit for gills than lungs;
when grief weights you down like your own flesh
only more of it, an obesity of grief,
you think, How can a body withstand this?
Then you hold life like a face
between your palms, a plain face,
no charming smile, no violet eyes,
and you say, yes, I will take you
I will love you, again.

-Ellen Bass
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Full text of this episode can be found here: http://stevewasserman.co.uk/amor-fati/

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Audio used in episode (in order of occurence): 

-Jon & the Nightriders - Rumble at Waikiki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41YvSrk5paQ&t=81s

-Can't Stop The Feeling (Justin Timberlake) - Original Piano Arrangement by Maucoli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MpOfn4rDcU

-ET: https://open.spotify.com/album/1Wcggztq9SspsBeXcrnHZo?highlight=spotify:track:3VVilIGlUJ6tIirr7GGCHs

-Night Flight - Say Yes (Elliot Smith Cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnQ0ac8A8hk

-A Day In The Life (Orchestra Overdub): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecybFp71bnc

-Reading of The Thing Is (Ellen Bass): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JONWgsZ6vm8

-Steven C. Hayes talking about Feeling & Experiential Avoidance: https://www.soundstrue.com/collections/authors-steven-c-hayes/products/acceptance-and-commitment-therapy

-Extract from Bernard Malamud's A New Life: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Penguin-Twentieth-Century-Classics/dp/0140186816/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=a+new+life+malamud&qid=1624180687&sr=8-1

-Jane Hirshfield reading her poem Amor Fati: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92039/amor-fati 

-Extract from The Gay Science: https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/The-Gay-Science-The-Joyful-Wisdom-Audiobook/B01EWAXDI4?qid=1624180836&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=c6e316b8-14da-418d-8f91-b3cad83c5183&pf_rd_r=ZN7BMAJ44S0DHR5PPNXE

-Susan Buffam reading her poem Amor Fati: https://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/amor-fati-4435

-“Kindness” by Naomi Shihab Nye, A Poetry Film by Ana Pérez López: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFLQOOiAqxQ&t=15s

-Elliott Smith ~ Say Yes (Live in Stockholm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOnHEApbjV0

-Itzhak Perlman plays Fiddler on the Roof (John Williams Los Angeles Philharmonic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h745la-Lo1I

-Neil De Grasse Tyson giving an overview of our 65 million year-old hominid evolutionary history: https://samharris.org/podcasts/252-alone-universe/

-Can't Stop The Feeling by Justin Timberlake Live (Downbeat LA Cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGz7Nbaavgg&ab_channel=DownbeatDownbeat

-Hakeem Oluseyi waxing lyrical about astrophysics: https://www.startalkradio.net/show/a-quantum-life-with-hakeem-oluseyi/

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This episode is proudly sponsored by the poem Amor Fati by Susan Buffam.


Jun 20, 202101:10:15
Episode 34: Bryony Littlefair's Tara Miller

Episode 34: Bryony Littlefair's Tara Miller

So I had this idea for a new strand on PK called Voice Noets With Poets. An audio gratitude (delivered as voice note) to some of my favourite makers about their work. In each episode you might hear my voice-note to them, and their voice note back, accompanied by other pleasant bleeps and bloops as part of the sonic package. I did one of these with Bryony Littlefair, and then ran out of steam, but I still like this one!

TOPICS COVERED (In Order of Appearance): Tara Miller (poem); “hooks” in songs and poems; the workings of desire (what is desire using us for?); interruption in poetic narrative; affectionate abuse / ambivalent intimacies; the (un)blemished truths about ourselves/others; long-legged vs short-legged happiness; Jane Hirshfield’s giraffes (Articulation, An Assay); many-jointed expressive structures in poetry; conceptual untidiness; Colette Bryce’s giraffes (The Hopes); random influences & unhinged delight; the post-depressive giraffe of serendipitous happiness; Tully (spoilers); suburbia (no spoilers); “I could speak and I was happy. / Or: I could speak, thus I was happy. / Or: I was happy, thus speaking." (Louise Glück; nostalgic anxiety; the joy of inconclusiveness; terrible at pub quizzes; And it was at that age … / Poetry arrived / in search of me." (Neruda poem); identification with Dorianne Laux's After Twelve Days of Rain; I have always loved too much,
/ or not enough; hatless in the rain; the freedom of writing from a place of unknowing; making it as someone who makes it simple and sad.

This episode is proudly sponsored by the poem CHANCE DARKENED ME:

Chance darkened me
as a morning darkens,
preparing to rain.
It goes against its arc,
betrays its clock-hands.
The day was a dark-eyed giraffe,
its unfathomable legs
kept walking.
A person is not a day,
not rain,
no gentle eater of high leaves.
I did not keep walking.
The day inside me,
legs and lungs, kept walking.

-Jane Hirshfield


Feb 11, 202101:32:30
EPISODE 33: You're To Blame! (Lydia Davis's The Mother, Larkin's This Be The Verse, and Russell Edson's The Optical Prodigal)

EPISODE 33: You're To Blame! (Lydia Davis's The Mother, Larkin's This Be The Verse, and Russell Edson's The Optical Prodigal)

THE MOTHER

The girl wrote a story. “But how much better it would be if you wrote a novel,” said her mother. The girl built a dollhouse. “But how much better if it were a real house,” her mother said. The girl made a small pillow for her father. “But wouldn’t a quilt be more practical,” said her mother. The girl dug a small hole in the garden. “But how much better if you dug a large hole,” said her mother. The girl dug a hole and went to sleep in it. “But how much better if you slept forever,” said her mother.

-Lydia Davis

THIS BE THE VERSE 

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.

-Philip Larkin

THE OPTICAL PRODIGAL

A man sees a tiny couple in the distance, and thinks they might be his mother and father. But when he gets to them they're still little. You're still little, he says, don't you remember? Who said you were supposed to be here? says the little husband. You're supposed to be in your own distance; you're still in your own foreground, you spendthrift. No no, says the man, you're to blame.

-Russell Edson

With additional audio clips and references to: 

Love, Love, Love By Mike Bartlett. The Lyric Hammersmith Theatre production (recorded under lockdown): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000k26n

Astor Piazzolla's Las Estaciones - Otono Porteno, Violin. Arabella Steinbacher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1BR55bOmg

This American Life, Episode 672, "No Fair!": https://www.thisamericanlife.org/672/no-fair

Nadine Labaki's Capernaum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULUo0048xZE

Sam Harris's Free Will: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Free-Will-Sam-Harris/dp/1451683405

Peter Strawson's essay "Freedom and Resentment: http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/P._F._Strawson_Freedom_&_Resentment.pdf

West Side Story - "Gee Officer Krupke!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7TT4jnnWys&t=2s

My Name is Lucy Barton by Elizabeth Strout: https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/My-Name-Is-Lucy-Barton-Audiobook/B01AX00OH0

Jul 08, 202001:38:05
EPISODE 32: Am I Wasting My Life? Are YOU Wasting Your Life? (James Wright's Lying in a Hammock at William Duffy’s Farm in Pine Island, Minnesota)

EPISODE 32: Am I Wasting My Life? Are YOU Wasting Your Life? (James Wright's Lying in a Hammock at William Duffy’s Farm in Pine Island, Minnesota)

Jun 11, 202001:07:03
EPISODE 31: Every Day Something More Important Calls For My Attention (Marie Howe's Prayer)

EPISODE 31: Every Day Something More Important Calls For My Attention (Marie Howe's Prayer)

May 21, 202047:06
EPISODE 30: What Else Can You Do Now But Reach For A Berry? (Chio Nakamura's Wild Strawberries)
Apr 30, 202043:04
EPISODE 29: The Joys & Delights of Being Nobody & Everybody — Caedmon’s Hymn
Apr 08, 202030:49
EPISODE 28: The Fire That Can Make Nothing Of Itself (Mark Waldron's The Warehouse)
Mar 20, 202041:25
EPISODE 27: Mary Ruefle's Sadness
Mar 10, 202041:34
EPISODE 26: Richard Scott prescribes Practising by Marie Howe

EPISODE 26: Richard Scott prescribes Practising by Marie Howe

In this episode of Poetry Koan, Richard Scott prescribes Practising by Marie Howe which you can read here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54778/practicing. 

RICHARD SCOTT was born in London in 1981. His poems have appeared widely in magazines and anthologies including Poetry Review, Poetry London, PN Review, Swimmers, The Poetry of Sex (Penguin) and Butt Magazine. He has been a winner of the Wasafiri New Writing Prize, a Jerwood/Arvon Poetry Mentee and a member of the Aldeburgh 8. His pamphlet ‘Wound’ (Rialto) won the Michael Marks Poetry Award 2016 and his poem ‘crocodile’ won the 2017 Poetry London Competition. Soho (Faber & Faber) is his first book. Richard is on Twitter @iamrichardscott.

Sep 22, 201939:57
EPISODE 25: Sandra Simonds prescribes I Know a Man by Robert Creeley & Sonnet by Bernadette Mayer

EPISODE 25: Sandra Simonds prescribes I Know a Man by Robert Creeley & Sonnet by Bernadette Mayer

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet SANDRA SIMONDS!

Sandra Simonds is the author of six books of poetry: Orlando, (Wave Books, 2018), Further Problems with Pleasure, winner of the 2015 Akron Poetry Prize from the University of Akron Press, Steal It Back (Saturnalia Books, 2015), The Sonnets (Bloof Books, 2014), Mother Was a Tragic Girl (Cleveland State University Poetry Center, 2012), and Warsaw Bikini (Bloof Books, 2009). Her poems have been published in the New York Times, the Best American Poetry 2015 and 2014 and have appeared in many literary journals, including Poetry, the American Poetry Review, the Chicago ReviewGrantaBoston Review, PloughsharesFenceCourt Green, and Lana Turner. In 2013, she won a Readers’ Choice Award for her sonnet “Red Wand,” which was published on Poets.org, the Academy of American Poets website. She lives in Tallahassee, Florida and is an Associate professor of English and Humanities at Thomas University in Thomasville, Georgia.

Here are the poems we discuss in the episode:

I Know a Man by Robert Creeley

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42839/i-know-a-man

Sonnet by Bernadette Mayer

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/49729/sonnet-you-jerk-you-didnt-call-me-up

Sep 22, 201929:32
EPISODE 24: Ronna Bloom prescribes Hafiz, Coleridge, and Virgil

EPISODE 24: Ronna Bloom prescribes Hafiz, Coleridge, and Virgil

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet RONNA BLOOM prescribing poems for ONLINE DATING BLUES!

Ronna is a poet, speaker, psychotherapist, and author of six books. Her poems have been broadcast on the CBC, displayed in public spaces, recorded by the CNIB, and translated into Spanish and Bengali.

Ronna speaks and writes at corporate events, leads organizational retreats, runs workshops, and does poetry and writing coaching. She brings twenty years of psychotherapy practice to her work as a poet and facilitator.

She is currently Poet in Community at the University of Toronto and Poet in Residence at Mount Sinai Hospital.

Ronna has performed with Juno award-winning musician Jayme Stone. A one minute film based on the poem “Grief Without Fantasy” was made by filmmaker Midi Onodera and screened in the Official Selection at the Toronto Urban Film Festival.

Ronna has written 5 books of poetry, which some people really liked. Several of these have been shortlisted for Canadian literary prizes. Her sixth book, The Morewas released October 12, 2017.

Sep 22, 201945:55
EPISODE 23: Edward Doegar prescribes Nice by Karen Solie

EPISODE 23: Edward Doegar prescribes Nice by Karen Solie

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet ED DOEGAR!

Ed’s poem “Anon” as well as the Karen Solie poem he prescribes can be found here.

Edward Doegar’s poems, reviews and translations have appeared in various magazines, including Poetry LondonPrac Crit, clinic and Poetry Wales. He’s a fellow of the Complete Works programme, a scheme promoting diversity in British poetry. His poems are featured in the anthology Ten: The New Wave (Bloodaxe, 2014), and his pamphlet For Now was published by clinic in 2017. Ed also works as a Commissioning Editor at The Poetry Translation Centre.

Sep 22, 201930:52
EPISODE 22: CAConrad prescribes “biggest loser” by Sophie Robinson and “Remorse – is Memory – awake” by Emily Dickinson

EPISODE 22: CAConrad prescribes “biggest loser” by Sophie Robinson and “Remorse – is Memory – awake” by Emily Dickinson

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet CAConrad!

The poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be found here:

Sophie Robinson’s “biggest loser”: https://www.lambdaliterary.org/features/poetry-spotlight/10/16/a-poem-by-sophie-robinson/
Emily Dickinson’s “Remorse – is Memory – Awake”: https://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems/emily-dickinson/remorse-is-memory-awake/

CAConrad grew up in Pennsylvania, where they helped to support their single mother during Conrad’s difficult youth. Influenced by Eileen MylesAudre LordeAlice Notley, and Emily Dickinson, Conrad writes poems in which stark images of sex, violence, and defiance build a bridge between fable and confession. In a 2010 interview with Luke Degnan for BOMBMagazine’s BOMBlog, Conrad discussed their approach to poetry, which focuses on process and on engaging the permeability of the border between self and other. “Ultimately, I want my (Soma)tic poetry and poetics to help us realize at least two things. That everything around us has a creative viability with the potential to spur new thinking and imaginative output and that the most necessary ingredient to bringing the sustainable, humane changes we need and want for our world requires creativity in all lives, every single day.”

Conrad is the author of seven books, the latest is titled While Standing in Line for Death (Wave Books, 2017). They are a 2015 Headlands Art Fellow, and has also received fellowships from Lannan Foundation, MacDowell Colony, Banff, Ucross, RADAR, and the Pew Center for Arts & Heritage. They conduct workshops on (Soma)tic Poetry and Ecopoetics.

Intro music: Of Montreal’s Knight Rider; outro music is also by Of Montreal (The Party’s Crashing Us)

Sep 22, 201936:00
EPISODE 21: Natalie Eilbert prescribes Elm by Sylvia Plath and The Glass Essay by Anne Carson

EPISODE 21: Natalie Eilbert prescribes Elm by Sylvia Plath and The Glass Essay by Anne Carson

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet NATALIE EILBERT!

All the poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be found here:  http://bit.ly/2n9lxHZ

NATALIE EILBERT is the author of Indictus, winner of Noemi Press’s 2016 Poetry Prize, slated for publication in early 2018, as well as the poetry collection, Swan Feast (Bloof Books, 2015). Her work has appeared in or is forthcoming from Granta, The New YorkerTin HouseThe Kenyon Reviewjubilat, and elsewhere. She was the recipient of the 2016 Jay C. and Ruth Halls Poetry Fellowship at University of Wisconsin–Madison and is the founding editor of The Atlas Review.

Intro music: Prince. Outro music: Will & Ali

Sep 22, 201941:21
EPISODE 20: Donika Kelly prescribes Praise House by Gabrielle Calvocoressi

EPISODE 20: Donika Kelly prescribes Praise House by Gabrielle Calvocoressi

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet DONIKA KELLY!

All the poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be found here: http://bit.ly/2zO7zUm

Donika is the author of BESTIARY (Graywolf 2016), winner of the 2015 Cave Canem Poetry Prize, long listed for the National Book Award (2016), and a finalist for a Lambda Literary Award (2017), and the chapbook AVIARIUM (500 Places 2017). A Cave Canem Graduate Fellow, she received her MFA in Writing from the Michener Center for Writers and a Ph.D. in English from Vanderbilt University.  She is an Assistant Professor at St. Bonaventure University, where she teaches creative writing.

If you’ve enjoyed the episode, please (pretty please) could you leave us a nice review on iTunes,

Also, in the next year, I’m trying to raise funds for the S.H.E College Fund initiative in Kenya by learning 52 poems in 52 weeks. Here is my 52 Poems in 52 Weeks Donations Page: https://chuffed.org/project/52-poems-in-52-weeks 

If you’re feeling some poetry-love after listening, a donation, no matter how small (or large) would be greatly appreciated.

Don’t forget, the Poetry Pharmacy is open every day on Twitter, dispensing poems for whatever ails body and soul. Feel free to @/DM us there, or email us here (thepoetrypharmacy AT gmail.com) with your requests for a poem prescription.

Sep 22, 201947:28
Episode 19: Keegan Lester prescribes AFTER WATCHING A VIDEO OF FRIEDA & DIEGO IN THE CASA AZUL by Eva Maria Saavedra + REMEMBRANCE OF AN OPEN WOUND by Pascale Petit

Episode 19: Keegan Lester prescribes AFTER WATCHING A VIDEO OF FRIEDA & DIEGO IN THE CASA AZUL by Eva Maria Saavedra + REMEMBRANCE OF AN OPEN WOUND by Pascale Petit

This week in the pharmacy we have the poet KEEGAN LESTER!

All the poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be found here: http://bit.ly/2gJQDDX

Keegan splits his time between New York City and Morgantown, West Virginia. Mary Ruefle selected his first collection of poetry this shouldn’t be beautiful but it was & it’s all i had so i drew it for the 2016 Slope Editions Book Prize. His work is published in or forthcoming from the Boston Review, The Atlas Review, Powder Keg, Boaat Journal, The Journal, Phantom Books, Tinderbox, CutBank, Reality Beach and Sixth Finch among others and has been featured on NPR, The New School Writing Blog and ColdFront Mag. He is the co-founder and poetry editor for the journal Souvenir Lit. He also performs monthly with the New York City Poetry Brothel. He’s taught at the West Virginia Young Writers’ Holiday, Stonehill College, and multiple workshops in Morgantown, West Virginia, and was a mentor for the 2016 Adroit Journal Summer High School Mentorship Program. At West Virginia University he was a writing center tutor for three years and a tutor for the WVU Men’s Soccer & Woman’s Basketball teams. He was born in Huntington Beach, California. He earned his MFA from Columbia University.

[Theme music for the podcast is played by the wonderful coversart]

Sep 22, 201936:48
Episode 18: Khairani Barokka prescribes THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD by Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha + RECEIVING MY POEMS IN BRAILLE by Nuala Watt

Episode 18: Khairani Barokka prescribes THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD by Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha + RECEIVING MY POEMS IN BRAILLE by Nuala Watt

This week in the pharmacy we have the writer, poet, and artist KHAIRANI BAROKKA!

All the poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be found here: http://bit.ly/2klT8AG

KHAIRANI BAROKKA was born  in Jakarta and currently lives in London. Among her honours, she was an NYU Tisch Departmental Fellow for her masters, Emerging Writers Festival’s (AUS) Inaugural International Writer-In-Residence (2013), and Indonesia’s first Writer-In-Residence at Vermont Studio Center (2011).

Okka is the writer/performer/producer of, among others, a deaf-accessible, solo poetry/art show, Eve and Mary Are Having Coffee. It premiered at Edinburgh Fringe 2014 as Indonesia’s only representative, with a grant from HIVOS. She was recognized in 2014 by UNFPA as one of Indonesia’s “Inspirational Young Leaders Driving Social Change”, for highly prolific, pioneering international work in inclusive, accessible arts.

Published internationally in anthologies and journals, Okka has presented work extensively, in ten countries, is a frequent public speaker, and has been awarded six residencies and various grants. She is author and illustrator of poetry-art book Indigenous Species (Tilted Axis Press, 2016), co-editor with Ng Yi-Sheng of HEAT: A Southeast Asian Urban Anthology (Fixi, 2016), and co-editor, with Sandra Alland and Daniel Sluman, of Stairs and Whispers: D/deaf and Disabled Poets Write Back (Nine Arches Press, May 2017). A PhD-by-practice researcher at Goldsmiths, as an LPDP Scholar in Visual Cultures, Okka is currently working on a book and visual works. Her first full-length poetry collection, Rope, is currently out with Nine Arches Press (October 2017).

[Theme music for the podcast is by Aretha Franklin played by the wonderful coversart & also Ahmad Jamal from his album Tranquility]

Sep 22, 201945:46
Episode 17: Kaveh Akbar prescribes THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOG by Russell Edson + THE MINOTAUR’S THOUGHTS ON POETRY by Miroslav Holub

Episode 17: Kaveh Akbar prescribes THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOG by Russell Edson + THE MINOTAUR’S THOUGHTS ON POETRY by Miroslav Holub

Oh yes, it’s KAVEH AKBAR in da house Pharmacy this week!

All the poems we prescribe and talk about in this episode can be read here: http://bit.ly/2xu8VST

Kaveh’s debut full-length collection, Calling a Wolf a Wolf, is just out with Alice James in the US and Penguin in the UK, and his chapbook, Portrait of the Alcoholic, was published by Sibling Rivalry Press. The recipient of a 2016 Ruth Lilly and Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg Fellowship from the Poetry Foundation, a Pushcart Prize, and the Lucille Medwick Memorial Award from the Poetry Society of America. Kaveh was born in Tehran, Iran, and currently lives and teaches in Florida.

Kaveh also founded and edits Divedapper, a home for dialogues with the most vital voices in contemporary poetry. Previously, he ran The Quirk, a for-charity print literary journal. He has also served as Poetry Editor for BOOTH and Book Reviews Editor for the Southeast Review. Along with Gabrielle Calvocoressi, francine j. harris, and Jonathan Farmer, he starred on All Up in Your Ears, a monthly poetry podcast.

CONTACT: kaveh@kavehakbar.com or on Twitter @KavehAkbar.

[Theme music for the podcast is by Aretha Franklin played by the wonderful coversart & also Ahmad Jamal from his album Tranquility]

Sep 22, 201941:18
Episode 16: Finn Menzies prescribes AFTERNOON by Max Ritvo + FACTS OF LIFE by Jim Ferris

Episode 16: Finn Menzies prescribes AFTERNOON by Max Ritvo + FACTS OF LIFE by Jim Ferris

So pleased to have Finn Menzies in the Poetry Pharmacy this week!

Finn prescribes Max Ritvo‘s AFTERNOON which can be found here, and I reciprocate with Jim Ferris‘s FACTS OF LIFE (read Jim’s poem here).

We also read and talk about a poem from Finn’s debut collection Brilliant Odyssey Don’t Yearn.

Finn Menzies is an out transgender teacher in Seattle, WA. He received his MFA from Mills College. He is the creator of FIN Zine, a bi-annual zine dedicated to his journey through transition.

Finn’s debut collection, Brilliant Odyssey Don’t Yearn is out with Fog Machine. You can order it on Amazon. His poetry can also be seen in Gigantic Sequins, Quiet Lightning, SUSAN /the journal, Open House, SPORK, HOLD: a journal, The Shallow Ends, and various other journals.

Annually, Finn facilitates UNdoing Ego a workshop on meditation and generative writing.

[Theme music for the podcast is from Vladimir Martynov’s The Beatitudes played by the wonderful coversart on YouTube]

Sep 22, 201945:09
Episode 15: Chen Chen prescribes Keegan Lester’s TO THE TIN BAND THAT READ: KEEGAN MATTHEW LESTER + jayy dodd’s ARS POETICA

Episode 15: Chen Chen prescribes Keegan Lester’s TO THE TIN BAND THAT READ: KEEGAN MATTHEW LESTER + jayy dodd’s ARS POETICA

Today in the Poetry Pharmacy, we’re hanging out with CHEN CHEN.

Chen prescribes a Keegan Lester poem which can be READ HERE, and I reciprocate with jayy dodd‘s incredible ARS POETICA. We also read and talk about Chen’s poem POPLAR STREET.

Chen Chen is the author of When I Grow Up I Want to Be a List of Further Possibilities, winner of the A. Poulin, Jr. Poetry Prize. A Kundiman and Lambda Literary Fellow, Chen has also authored two chapbooks. He helps edit Iron Horse and Gabby. He also works on a new journal called Underblong, which he co-founded with the poet Sam Herschel Wein. He lives in Lubbock with his partner Jeff Gilbert and their pug dog Mr. Rupert Giles.

[Theme music for the podcast is from Vladimir Martynov’s The Beatitudes played by the wonderful coversart on YouTube]

Sep 22, 201945:50
Episode 14: Amaan Hyder prescribes A RECOGNITION by Shani Mootoo + DO YOU SPEAK PERSIAN by Kaveh Akbar

Episode 14: Amaan Hyder prescribes A RECOGNITION by Shani Mootoo + DO YOU SPEAK PERSIAN by Kaveh Akbar

Welcome to a new season of the show, now rebranded and slightly reformatted as POETRY PHARMACY!

You might notice that we have a slightly different way of doing things: two readers, three poems, and even more POETRY LOVE than ever before.

We’re kicking off the new season with AMAAN HYDER, author of a recent collection of poetry At Hajj (Penned In The Margins) who reads to me a poem from a collection he loves by the writer and visual artist Shani Mootoo. I then read and we talk about a poem I love by Kaveh Akbar, and we finish with Amaan’s poem The Clot.

Links to the poems read and discussed in this episode: Shani Mootoo’s A RECOGNITION / Kaveh Akbar’s DO YOU SPEAK PERSIAN? /Amaan Hyder’s THE CLOT.

[Theme music for the podcast is from Vladimir Martynov’s The Beatitudes played by the wonderful coversart on YouTube]

Sep 22, 201941:56
Episode 13: Mary Jean Chan prescribes DEDICATIONS by Adrienne Rich+ WINTER by Chen Chen

Episode 13: Mary Jean Chan prescribes DEDICATIONS by Adrienne Rich+ WINTER by Chen Chen

Today in the Poetry Pharmacy, we had a visit from MARY JEAN CHAN.

Mary Jean’s work has appeared in The Poetry Review, Ambit, The Rialto, The London Magazine, Callaloo and elsewhere. She is also a Co-Editor at Oxford Poetry.

Her poem “//” is currently shortlisted for the Forward Prize for Best Single Poem. She also recently won the Poetry Society Members’ Competition, as well as the Poetry and Psychoanalysis Competition.

Mary Jean brought in Adrienne Rich’s poem DEDICATIONS to read and discuss. We also talked about our love for the poet Chen Chen and read his poem WINTER, followed by a reading of Mary Jean’s own SELF-PORTRAIT, a poem I’ve recently been by-heart dosing myself on.

If you’ve enjoyed the episode, please (pretty please) could you leave us a nice review on iTunes,

Also, in the next year, I’m trying to raise funds for the S.H.E College Fund initiative in Kenya by learning 52 poems in 52 weeks. Here is my 52 Poems in 52 Weeks Donations Page: https://chuffed.org/project/52-poems-in-52-weeks 

If you’re feeling some poetry-love after listening, a donation, no matter how small (or large) would be greatly appreciated.

Don’t forget, the Poetry Pharmacy is open every day on Twitter, dispensing poems for whatever ails body and soul. Feel free to @/DM us there, or email us here (thepoetrypharmacy AT gmail.com) with your requests for a poem prescription.

[Theme music for the podcast is from Vladimir Martynov’s The Beatitudes played by the wonderful coversart on YouTube]

Sep 22, 201942:49
Episode 12: Ryan Van Winkle prescribes Michael Burkard’s TOOTH

Episode 12: Ryan Van Winkle prescribes Michael Burkard’s TOOTH

RYAN VAN WINKLE is a poet, live artist, podcaster and critic living in Edinburgh.

His second collection, The Good Dark, won the Saltire Society’s 2015 Poetry Book of the Year award.

His poems have appeared in New Writing Scotland, The Prairie Schooner, The American Poetry Review, AGNI and Best Scottish Poems 2015.

As a member of Highlight Arts he has organized festivals and translation workshops in Syria, Pakistan and Iraq.

He is always happy to hear from you, you can contact Ryan here.

Sep 22, 201923:19
Episode 11: Rachel Kelly prescribes George Herbert’s LOVE III

Episode 11: Rachel Kelly prescribes George Herbert’s LOVE III

RACHEL KELLY is a mental health campaigner, public speaker, and writer.

In her early thirties, Rachel was diagnosed with serious depression and subsequently suffered two major depressive episodes. These two episodes have become the defining events of her life. Since then, she has written about the condition, and how she has recovered, in books that have been read by tens of thousands of people. Her memoir about her experience of serious depression Black Rainbow  was a Sunday Times bestseller in 2014.

Rachel now speaks publicly about her experience of depression and recovery, and regularly writes for press and gives TV and radio interviews to help educate and break stigma. She also runs workshops for mental health charities to share what she has learnt about how to stay calm and well. She is an official ambassador for Rethink Mental IllnessYoung MindsSane and The Counselling Foundation. Her latest book “The Happy Kitchen: Good Mood” food was published in January 2017.

Sep 22, 201936:53
Episode 10: Alexander MacLeod prescribes Elizabeth Bishop’s IN THE WAITING ROOM

Episode 10: Alexander MacLeod prescribes Elizabeth Bishop’s IN THE WAITING ROOM

ALEXANDER MACLEOD was born in Inverness, Nova Scotia and raised in Windsor Ontario. His first book, a collection of short stories called Light Lifting won the Margaret and John Savage First Book Award and was named a finalist for the Scotiabank Giller Prize, the Commonwealth Book Award, the Thomas Head Raddall Atlantic Fiction Award, and the Danuta Gleed Award. Alexander teaches at Saint Mary’s University in Halifax.

Sep 22, 201926:59
Episode 9: Josh Cohen prescribes Wallace Stevens’ THE PLAIN SENSE OF THINGS
Sep 22, 201943:40
Episode 8: Edward Espe Brown prescribes Rumi’s STORY WATER
Sep 22, 201938:07
Episode 7: Sarah Salway prescribes Kenneth White’s WINTER WOOD & INTELLECTUAL GATHERING
Sep 22, 201931:21
Episode 6: Laura Barber prescribes I DWELL IN POSSIBILITY by Emily Dickinson

Episode 6: Laura Barber prescribes I DWELL IN POSSIBILITY by Emily Dickinson

LAURA BARBER is the editor of four popular poetry anthologies – including the hugely successful Penguin’s Poems for Life – and former ‘Poetry Doctor’ at The School of Life. She is also Editorial Director at Granta Books where her interests range from literary fiction to memoir, reportage, travel, narrative history and nature writing,

Sep 22, 201934:06
Episode 5: Niall O’Sullivan prescribes THE STRANGE HOURS TRAVELLERS KEEP by August Kleinzahler

Episode 5: Niall O’Sullivan prescribes THE STRANGE HOURS TRAVELLERS KEEP by August Kleinzahler

NIALL O’SULLIVAN hosts Poetry Unplugged, London’s longest running poetry open mic. He teaches poetry at London Metropolitan University, his main module being Poetry and Performance. He is currently working on a series of online posts that critically explore Spoken Word.

He has published three books of poetry with flipped eye . He also edit other poets for the press.

Sep 22, 201932:31