Post-Mormon at the Movies

What kind of high schooler were you? What do you wish were different about your high school/Mormon experience? Nick and Dan explore these questions with special guest Jenny McKay, who joined them for a discussion about the film Booksmart. (This conversation was recorded in July 2023.)

Check out Jenny's coaching and podcast!

-Jenny McKay Coaching (website, Instagram, TikTok)

-Podcast: Just Create, Dammit!

Mentioned in this episode:

1. Barbie

2. Olivia Wilde

3. Barbenheimer, The Dark Knight, and Mamma Mia!

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Nick and Dan are joined by long-time friend Jon to geek out over Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse. We discuss the "canon events" of Mormonism and what it feels like to find others who accept you when you're different.

Mentioned in this episode:

1. Phil Lord and Christopher Miller

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Jenny, Kyle, Nick, and Dan discuss season one of The Good Place and how it relates to their experiences in the LDS church. How similar is the Good Place to the celestial kingdom? Is there a "point system" in the church? Which character is the most "Mormon"? Tune in to find out! ***CONTAINS SPOILERS***

Mentioned in this episode:

1. How to be Perfect by Michael Schur

2. SNL, The Office, Parks and Recreation

3. Damon Lindelof, Lost, and The Leftovers

4. The Good Place point system

5. The Trolley Problem

6. Video of cast reacting to season finale (SPOILERS)

7. Ted Danson and Cheers

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Head to the pub and grab a pint! Nick and Dan are joined by Kyle and Jenny (the human, not the donkey) to discuss The Banshees of Inisherin. Is this movie about the Irish civil war, inescapable despair, or church relationships? Listen to find out!

Mentioned in this episode:

1. Martin McDonagh

2. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri and In Bruges

3. Colin Farrell, Brendan Gleeson, Kerry Condon, and Barry Keoghan

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Go the distance with Dan and Nick in their first podcast of 2023! They discuss Disney's Hercules and its similarities to the LDS doctrine of the Plan of Salvation.

Mentioned in this episode:

1. Edith Hamilton's Mythology

2. Disney's 100th Anniversary

3. Hadestown

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Revisit this PM@M "classic" to learn why Nick and Dan love The Muppet Christmas Carol. They also discuss how they approach Christmas from a post-Mormon perspective.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Muppet Treasure Island
2. Michael Caine and Tim Curry
3. Thomas S. Monson's 2011 First Presidency Christmas Devotional talk "Because He Came"
4. The "missing song" ("When Love Is Gone")

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Nick and Dan tackle the messages and songs of Into the Woods to show how they relate to their own experiences in and out of church.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Stephen Sondheim, West Side Story, and Sweeny Todd
2. Rob Marshall
3. "Into the Woods: The Humanist Gospel of Stephen Sondheim"
4. "The Debate is Over"

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Do you believe in signs and deeper meaning, or luck and coincidence? Either way, we hope you enjoy this special Halloween episode about the 2002 film Signs. Jenny and Kyle join Nick and Dan to discuss the religious themes of this M. Night Shyamalan classic.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Field of Dreams
2. Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix
3. Fowler Stages of Faith
4. Life of Pi

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Kyle, Jenny, Nick, and Dan share their differing opinions in a lively discussion about the film Everything Everywhere All at Once. Statistically, it's possible that there are universes out there where everyone gets to be right.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
2. Turning Red
3. Daniels
4. Multiverse
5. "As man now is, God once was"
6. Postmodernism: Stuff You Should Know and Sunstone Podcast
7. Post-postmodernism
8. Walter Chaw: perspective from an immigrant family

More coverage of Everything Everywhere All at Once:
1. Intentionally Blank (Brandon Sanderson and Dan Wells)
2. The Big Picture: film discussion and interview with Daniels
3. Cinema Therapy
4. Pop Culture Detective

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"If it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a village to abuse one."

Sam Young joins us to discuss Spotlight, a 2015 film based on the true story of the investigative team from The Boston Globe that exposed the scandal and cover-up of child sex abuse by Catholic priests in the local community. We also discuss the recent Associated Press article "Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen." This article was written by Michael Rezendes, who is portrayed by Mark Ruffalo in Spotlight.

Content warning:  child sex abuse

Sam Young Mormon Stories interviews: Law of Common Consent, March for the Children, Response to church policy changes, Hunger Strike, Excommunication

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Protect Every Child, Protect LDS Children
2. Phil Saviano and SNAP
3. Protect LDS Children: stories of abuse
4. Sexually explicit questions asked to kids by Mormon bishops
5. California state law requiring background checks
6. The Night of the Iguana, The Magnificent Seven, A Beautiful Mind, Saving Private Ryan

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It's still summer break, but enjoy this bonus episode before we start up again this fall! Shawn rejoins us to discuss Sons of Provo. We talk about how this movie holds up from a post-Mormon view, whether it portrays Utah Mormonism more accurately than Under the Banner of Heaven, and the current state of Mormon cinema.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Sons of Provo album
2. The Best Two Years, The Other Side of Heaven, The R.M., and The Singles Ward
3. Will Swenson, Kirby Heyborne, and Danny Tarasevich
4. Kirby Heyborne beer commercial
5. This Is Spinal Tap
6. Mormons and the Movies
7. "Pollyannaish"
8. The R.M. soundtrack
9. Jericho Road
10. Pretty Darn Funny and Sheri Dew
11. Once I Was a Beehive, 17 Miracles, Church Ball, and The Chosen
12. Studio C on Conan
13. Mormon No More and Murder Among the Mormons
14. "Same-Sex Attracted" and Believer
15. Shawn's blog: The Everyday Cinephile

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Revisit this Post-Mormon at the Movies "classic" as Nick and Dan discuss 1998's The Truman Show and its connections to the post-Mormon experience.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. The Truman Show
2. Andrew Niccol and Peter Weir
3. The Twilight Zone inspiration
4. An essay discussing The Truman Show from the Association for Mormon Letters
5. The Screwtape Letters
6. The Allegory of the Cave
7. Gaslighting and cognitive dissonance
8. The Oatmeal's comic about cognitive dissonance and the backfire effect
9. Using fear to motivate/manipulate ("Perfect Love Casteth Out Fear")

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Who would've thought that Damian Chazelle's "Whiplash" would lead to such a deep discussion about morality, self-worth, and abusive leadership? Not us, but that's the way the cymbal crashes. Dan and Nick are joined once again by Kyle to discuss 2014's "Whiplash."

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Youtube: Whiplash (as reviewed by a jazz musician)
2. La La Land

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Our discussions of FX's Under the Banner of Heaven come to a close. Jenny and Kyle once again join Nick and Dan to share thoughts about the finale of this epic miniseries.

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It may not be in a Jacuzzi in Oregon, but join Nick and Dan for a chat about FX's Under the Banner of Heaven. Kyle and Jenny return to break down depictions of revelation and a crisis of faith in episode six of the series.

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Jenny and Kyle keep Nick and Dan around to continue their in-depth review of FX's Under the Banner of Heaven. The investigation is full steam ahead as we discuss depictions of polygamy, excommunication, and Joseph Smith's martyrdom.

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Nick and Dan continue their in-depth review of FX's Under the Banner of Heaven with Kyle and Jenny. We hear Kyle's quick take on Episode 3 and then explore all things Church and State, especially the friction that polygamy has caused and continues to cause in the LDS church.

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Continue the deep-dive into FX's Under the Banner of Heaven on the podcast's temporary retitle: Post-Mormon at the Mini-series.

Nick and Dan, joined again by Jenny, take a look at the show's third episode and discuss its depiction of the LDS temple, faith crises, and the accuracy of some Mormon euphemisms.

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Welcome to Post-Mormon at the...TV? Streaming? Mini-series?

Dan and Nick are joined by Jenny and Kyle (from our Encanto episode) in a new series covering Under the Banner of Heaven. In discussing episodes 1 and 2, we focus on what they got right and wrong in depicting Mormon culture and history.

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Dan and Nick discuss how Mormons are portrayed in popular media by non-Mormons, and share their favorite references from movies and TV.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. PM@M episode 28 - "Same-Sex Attracted"
2. President Nelson and the name of the Church
3. "I Am a Mormon" by Shawn Hall
4. A Study in Scarlet, Danites, and Around the World in Eighty Days
5. Trapped by the Mormons
6. "Mormons in Classic Hollywood Films" by Shawn Hall
7. Breaking Bad (S01 E04), The Office (S05 E10), Gilmore Girls (S04 E10), Quantico (S01 E01), Big Love
8. "The Publicity Dilemma" (LDS Church response to media depictions)
9. The Book of Mormon musical
10. South Park (S07 E12 and S04 E10)
11. Stranger Things (season 3)
12. States of Grace, Ocean's Eleven, and Fargo (season 4)
13. The Colbert Report ("I'm A Mormon" campaign and posthumous baptisms)
14. Saturday Night Live (Tim Tebow, Olympic skier, Mitt Romney)
15. Community (S06 E04)
16. Mormons in Media (Instagram)
17. Under the Banner of Heaven

Go a level deeper with Nick and Dan as they discuss Christopher Nolan's Inception.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. The Prestige
2. "Non, je ne regrette rien"
3. Inception trailer
4. Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith

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Dan and Nick talk about the upcoming 2022 Academy Awards and several of the nominated films.

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Dan and Nick are joined by returning guest, Shawn Hall, to talk about Kenneth Branagh's Belfast.

You can find Shawn on Twitter, Substack, and at his personal blog where he shares his thoughts on classic film.

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Dan and Nick are joined by Jenny and Kyle, a mixed-faith couple, to discuss Disney's Encanto. And, spoiler warning, we definitely talk about Bruno.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. 2022 PM@M Oscars Predictions Contest
2. Encanto director's tweet on white board notes
3. General conference talk about Christ's hands
4. Russell M. Nelson and conditional love
5. Encanto animation reference during pandemic
6. Kyle's Instagram account and Bite Size Reviews

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In honor of Valentine's Day, PM@M covers the romantic comedy Dan in Real Life. Nick and Dan try really hard to not spend the whole episode quoting the movie at each other.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Dan's Letterboxd profile
2. Steve Carell and The Office
3. Cyrano de Bergerac: the play, the stage musical, the movie
4. Peter Dinklage
5. Peter Hedges
6. About a Boy, Pieces of April, The Odd Life of Timothy Green

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Dan and Nick discuss "Same-Sex Attracted", a documentary about LGBTQ+ students at BYU, with co-director Maddy Purves.

Recent developments not discussed:
1. BYU makes changes to demonstration guidelines
2. LGBTQ dating ban at BYU probed in federal investigation
3. David Archuleta Instagram post
4. Mormon Stories: BYU Under Federal Investigation for its Treatment of LGBTQ Students

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Hot Dranks, The Existential Ginger, and Mormon Stories: The Purves Family
2. Anchor Point
3. Pride & Faith, Church & State, and Believer
4. Dallin Oaks denial about electroshock therapy
5. Big 12 and BYU
6. 2012 USGA panel
7. The Out Foundation, Restore Honor
8. Jeffrey Holland's "musket" talk
9. Agnès Varda, Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, Murder Among the Mormons, Tyler Measom

Extras:
1. It Gets Better at Brigham Young University
2. On the Record: A Chronology of LGBTQ+ Messaging in the LDS church
3. USGA website

Nick and Dan discuss the film It's a Wonderful Life, the history behind it, and whether George Bailey is a good person.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Frank Capra
2. Jimmy Stewart
3. Mr. Krueger's Christmas
4. PM@M Episode 009: The Muppet Christmas Carol
5. SNL's It's a Wonderful Life: The Lost Ending

Extras:
1. Christmas After a Mormon Faith Crisis (Mormon Stories episode)

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Nick and Dan are joined by Kyle, a believing member of the LDS faith. They discuss the film Stardust and how it relates to being in a mixed-faith marriage.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Neil Gaiman
2. The Princess Bride
3. Daredevil
4. Charlie Cox, Claire Danes, and Henry Cavill
5. The Hero's Journey

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Nick and Dan discuss what makes a good film adaptation before jumping into a review of the new release Dune.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. The Hunger Games, Pride and Prejudice, The Little Prince, Ender's Game, The Prestige, Little Women, and Adaptation.
2. Frank Herbert
3. Jason Momoa, Timothée Chalamet, and Zendaya
4. Dune (1984), Patrick Stewart, and Sting

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In honor of Guy Fawkes Day, this episode covers V for Vendetta. Nick and Dan discuss the film in conjunction with the LDS Church's controversial exclusion policy (announced 11/5/2015) and its subsequent reversal.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. 2015 exclusion policy: changes for homosexual couples and their children
(NOTE: the LDS Church has since updated their definition of apostasy and grounds for excommunication)
2. First Presidency letter to church leaders about the 2015 policy change
3. D. Todd Christofferson discusses changes with director of Church Public Affairs
4. Mormon Stories episode about 2015 policy comparison to polygamy
5. Articles about Utah youth suicides: Deseret News, The Salt Lake Tribune, Vox
6. Russell Nelson announces 2015 policy change was revelation
7. Mormonism Live episode about Russell Nelson and the 2015 policy change
8. Mass resignations following 2015 policy change
9. LDS Church announces reversal of policy

Extras:
1. More relevant Mormon Stories episodes: 583, 584, 586-587, 721-722, 1091-1094
2. Homosexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Wikipedia)

Join Nick and Dan for their Halloween Special covering 10 Cloverfield Lane. The film is a great watch for the holiday, but also surprisingly fitting for the COVID era.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Cloverfield, The Cloverfield Paradox, and Overlord
2. J.J. Abrams and Matt Reeves
3. John Goodman, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and John Gallagher Jr.
4. COVID vaccine controversy in the LDS church
5. Gaslighting
6. The Village (PM@M episode)

Extras:
1. Sunstone Podcast episode about LDS church leadership and response of members to COVID vaccine

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In honor of National Hispanic Heritage Month, Nick and Dan discuss the film Coco and its themes of family and the afterlife.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. El Niño
2. Olaf's Frozen Adventure controversy
3. Disney tried to trademark "Día de los Muertos"
4. Michael Giacchino
5. Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez
6. Response to Dallin Oaks' talk

Extras:
1. "Hollywood loves the Mormon afterlife" (Jana Riess)

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

Nick and Dan dive into the mythology of Star Wars and find connections to their journeys in and out of the LDS faith.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Joseph Campbell, The Hero's Journey, and Star Wars
2. Younger generations are less religious
3. Wookieepedia

Extras:
1. "...but here's why Mormons especially love Star Wars."

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"The weight of your silence is terrible."

Nick and Dan talk about how the religious themes of the 2016 film Silence relate to their own faith journeys.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Martin Scorsese
2. Taxi Driver, The Wolf of Wall Street, and The Last Temptation of Christ
3. The Other Side of Heaven
4. Sakoku
5. Andrew Garfield, Adam Driver, and Liam Neeson

Extras:
1. A Conversation with Martin Scorsese on Faith and Film (FULLER studio)
2. How "Scorsese" is Silence? | Video Essay (The Take)
3. Silence - The Deconstruction of Faith (Josh Keefe)
4. Exclusive: Martin Scorsese discusses his faith, his struggles, and "Silence." (America - The Jesuit Review)
5. Silence by Shusaku Endo

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Nick and Dan are joined by Shawn, a PM@M listener and winner of this year's Oscars Prediction contest. Shawn selected The Bridge on the River Kwai for this episode. The discussion centers on how obedience, loyalty, and morality are portrayed in this classic war movie and how they relate to the post-Mormon experience.

You can find Shawn on Twitter, Substack, and at his personal blog where he shares his thoughts on classic film.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Alec Guinness
2. "What-e'er thou art, act well thy part" and David O. McKay
3. Source for Joseph Smith quote
4. The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt
5. States of Grace
6. A Knight's Tale

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Happy Mother's Day! Join Nick, Dan, and special guest Stephanie from My Great and Spacious World as they discuss Disney's Tangled and its connections to life in and out of the LDS Church. After the episode, we invite all mothers to remain seated as the young men and women hand out a small gift from the bishopric.

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Mentioned in this episode:
1. Friday Night Lights
2. M. Russell Ballard's 2014 general conference talk "Stay in the Boat and Hold On!"
3. M. Russell Ballard's 2016 general conference talk "To Whom Shall We Go?"
4. "No One Is Alone" from Into the Woods

Extra Resources:
1. Women at Church: Magnifying LDS Women's Local Impact by Neylan McBaine
2. "Dear Mormon Man, tell me what you would do." by Amy McPhie Allebest (and her interview on Mormon Stories)
3. "30 Questions Nobody Asks My Husband at Church" by Dr. Julie Hanks (and her interview on Mormon Stories)

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Put on your tuxes and dresses, it's time for the Oscars! Nick and Dan discuss the Academy Awards and this year's nominees.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. List of 2021 Academy Award nominees
2. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
3. #OscarsSoWhite
4. Eligibility rules for films
5. Auteur Theory
6. How a Film Wins the Oscar for Best Picture, Explained (Vanity Fair)

Extras:
1. A Brief History of the Oscars (ABC News)
2. How Are Oscar Nominees Chosen? (Mental Floss)
3. Honest Trailers | The Oscars (2021)

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"The complexity and the gray lie not in the truth but what you do with the truth once you have it."

Nick and Dan are on the case! Join them as they investigate the hit 2019 mystery Knives Out.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Netflix buys Knives Out sequels
2. Rian Johnson
3. Brick, The Brothers Bloom, Looper, Breaking Bad, and The Last Jedi
4. Dialect coach talks movie accents
5. Daniel Craig and Chris Evans

Extras:
1. Director Rian Johnson Breaks Down a Scene from 'Knives Out' (Vanity Fair)
2. Therapist Reacts to KNIVES OUT (Cinema Therapy)
3. How I Wrote Knives Out - Writing Advice from Rian Johnson (Behind the Curtain)
4. Rian Johnson Breaks Down 'Knives Out' in 55-Minute Q&A (Collider Interviews)

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In honor of Passover, this episode's discussion centers on The Prince of Egypt. Join Nick and Dan as they discuss Moses and the Exodus story.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. The Ten Commandments
2. Jeffrey Katzenberg and DreamWorks
3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
4. Hans Zimmer and Stephen Schwartz
5. Jeff Goldblum, Steve Martin, and Martin Short
6. Passover

Extras:
1. "Through Heaven's Eyes" and "When You Believe" by The Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square
2. "When You Believe" (official Whitney Houston/Mariah Carey music video)
3. Commentary by Cinema Therapy
4. Commentary by Upon Friar Review
5. Video essay by Josh Keefe

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Daylight Saving Time starts this weekend! As you're turning your clocks ahead, slow down to listen to Nick and Dan discuss the time-turning Doctor Strange.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers
2. Batman: The Animated Series and Batman
3. Spider-Man and X-Men
4. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
5. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Daredevil
6. Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame
7. Black Panther and Ant-Man
8. The Fellowship of the Ring

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In honor of Black History Month, this episode's discussion is focused on Get Out. Nick and Dan are joined by special guest host Robert Martin, who shares some of his experience as a Black member of the LDS Church.

Robert is on Instagram and Twitter.

DISCLAIMER: Our goal is to make this podcast appeal to current and former members of the LDS Church, regardless of belief. As such, we try to talk about things in a way that will feel approachable to everyone. In this episode, we got into some discussions that might be uncomfortable for believing members to hear. We hope you'll listen, because we think these conversations are important to create understanding and unity.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Jordan Peele, Key & Peele, and MADtv
2. Bradley Whitford and The West Wing
3. LDS Gospel Topics essay on Race and the Priesthood
4. Jordan Peele's tweet on 'The Sunken Place'
5. Spike Lee
6. 2018 satirical/fake LDS Church apology for racism

Additional resources:
1. Discussion of Get Out and parallels with the LDS Church (Thinker of Thoughts)
2. Jordan Peele on Get Out fan theories
3. Response to fake LDS Church apology for racism (Sistas in Zion)
4. Black people and Mormonism (Wikipedia)
5. Black people and Mormon priesthood (Wikipedia)
6. Vox article on Get Out and benevolent racism
7. Robert and his wife Melissa's interview on the podcast Making Love Today

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In this episode we discuss a tight-knit group of people who are devoted to their faith traditions and the importance of marriage—and due to religious persecution, they're forced to leave their homes pulling their possessions in handcarts. Do you think Mormons can relate? Join Nick and Dan as they discuss Fiddler on the Roof and the majesty of the name 'Lazar Wolf.'

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Sholem Aleichem
2. Fiddler on the Roof, the stage musical
3. Bane sounds like Tevye
4. A Musical Theatre Podcast and the Fiddler episode
5. Russell M. Nelson's talk "Divine Love"

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Nick and Dan have a simulating—I mean, stimulating—conversation about The Matrix and why it's such a popular movie among post-Mormons.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Morpheus meme
2. Inception
3. Avatar
4. Red pill vs. blue pill
5. The Truman Show and the PM@M episode

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Join Nick and Dan as they review Pixar's newest film Soul and discuss how it relates to Mormon beliefs.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Coco, Inside Out, and The Incredibles
2. Pete Docter
3. Popcorn Theology

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Merry Christmas! For PM@M's holiday special, Nick and Dan talk about why they love The Muppet Christmas Carol. They also discuss how they approach Christmas from a post-Mormon perspective.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Muppet Treasure Island
2. Michael Caine and Tim Curry
3. Thomas S. Monson's 2011 First Presidency Christmas Devotional talk "Because He Came"
4. The "missing song" ("When Love Is Gone")

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R-rated movies can be a controversial topic in American Mormon culture. While church leaders have specifically spoken against these movies in the past, there have been no recent official directions to avoid any specific ratings, which creates a large gray area of interpretation. Nick and Dan tackle the tricky subject by discussing the history of movie ratings in the USA, the origins of this quasi-commandment in the Mormon faith, their personal experiences, and results from an informal survey on the topic.

Mentioned in this episode:
1.  The Hays Code (a.k.a. the Motion Picture Production Code)
2. The MPA (a.k.a. MPAA) and a history of movie ratings
3. H. Burke Peterson's 1980 general conference talk "Purify Our Minds and Spirits"
4. Ezra Taft Benson's 1986 general conference talks "To the 'Youth of the Noble Birthright'" and "To the Young Women of the Church"
5. H. Burke Peterson's 1993 general conference talk "'Touch Not the Evil Gift, nor the Unclean Thing'"
6. For the Strength of Youth
7. BYU International Cinema
9. This Film is Not Yet Rated
11. Jana Riess and The 2016 Next Mormons Survey
12. Editing services like CleanFlicks, ClearPlay, and VidAngel
13. Gérald Caussé's 2013 devotional "'For When I Am Weak, Then Am I Strong'"
14. The 13th Article of Faith
15. John Hatch's article "Can 'Good Mormons' Watch R-Rated Movies?" (page 16)

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What do Anne Hathaway, Disney Jesus, and Prop 8 have in common? They're all included in PM@M's exploration of Mormon Cinema! Join Nick and Dan as they continue discussing the unique aspects of LDS film.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Johnny Lingo 
2. Aaron Eckhart, The Dark Knight, and Godly Sorrow Leads to Repentance
3. Jimmy Stewart and Mr. Krueger's Christmas
4. Anne Hathaway and The Other Side of Heaven
5. Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Latter Days
6. Deseret Book, Pretty Darn Funny, and Sheri Dew
7. Breaking Bad
8. Richard Dutcher and God's Army
9. Portrayal of Deity (section 20.6.15) from the LDS General Handbook
10. The Testaments, Bible videos, Finding Faith in Christ, and Simon Dewey
11. The Return of the King
12. Believer, Dan Reynolds, Imagine Dragons, and the 2015 exclusion policy
13. Tyler Glenn and Neon Trees
14. Prop 8
15. John Dehlin, Savannah's testimony, The Trevor Project, Encircle, Mama Dragons, and Tom Christofferson

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“I'm afraid of what I'm risking if I follow you...into the unknown."

Nick and Dan discuss Elsa's continuing ex-Mormon journey in the 2019 sequel Frozen II.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. "Lead, Kindly Light"
2. Video on Frozen II songs by My Great and Spacious World

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Join Nick and Dan for their Halloween Special discussing M. Night Shyamalan's The Village.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Chernobyl, Clue, and Hocus Pocus
2. Judy Greer, Bryce Dallas Howard, Sigourney Weaver, Jesse Eisenberg, Joaquin Phoenix, Roger Deakins
3. M. Night Shyamalan (Unbreakable, Signs, The Sixth Sense, The Last Airbender, Split)
4. J.J. Abrams and the mystery box
5. The Truman Show, Full House, and Gaslight
6. Gospel Topics essay discussing Joseph Smith's polygamy
7. Source for Boyd K. Packer quote
8. B.H. Roberts and his concern with LDS truth claims

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From Johnny Lingo to Meet the Mormons, Dan and Nick discuss the strengths and weaknesses of Mormon cinema.

Mentioned in this episode:
1. Community
2. Video essay about Christian cinema
3. Johnny Lingo
4. Story of the tree stump and the Eight Witnesses
5. Book of Mormon cartoons
6. Using a hat to translate the Book of Mormon
7. Carl Bloch's edited painting
8. CleanFlicks, ClearPlay, and VidAngel
9. Meet the Mormons and introductory video

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