PSA Today = Privacy, Surveillance, Anonymity. Join Kaliya Young and Seth Goldstein for a spirited conversation at the intersection of the three themes driving modern identity: privacy, surveillance and anonymity. We wrestle each week with some of the most contentious issues facing our world as we try to find opportunities for agency and self-sovereignty within shared communities, both online and off.
Today is July 1, the first day that CCPA is being enforced in California, as well as the launch of Andrew Yang's fascinating DDP (Data Dividend Project). We think through the implications of both of these and discuss how realistic it is for consumers to see real $ in exchange for their data, and how this might play out in the future.
No guests, no agenda, just a good freewheeling conversation about how issues of surveillance and privacy are ebbing and flowing through the latest pandemic contact tracing dynamics and recent #blm protests. We end with a discussion of the seeming paradox of a future that promises anonymity while also giving people their own unique, authentic "voices" to be heard.
We start by discussing the latest news about the Senate's on-again off-again attempt to reauthorize Section 215 with an amendment that would prevent the FBI from being able to search our search and browser history without a warrant. We then welcome Leah Houston, MD, onto the podcast to talk about her journey from Emergency Physician to Medical Privacy Advocate. Leah is the CEO of HPEC, the Humanitarian Physicians Empowerment Community, which provides doctors with an easy way to organize in a digital space while also maintaining sovereign independence from centralized hierarchy and control.
Caine Tighe, CTO of Privacy Company Duck Duck Go joins us from Montana to talk about the evolution of DDG from search engine to privacy company and educator. We talk about trust, and how they have managed to build and scale trust over a distributed company of almost 100 people over the past decade. How consumer attitudes to privacy have shifted. How they make money without tracking anybody. "Serve, dont surveil!" How DDG searches have grown 17% since the start of the pandemic. Privacy and the emergence of contact tracing. The future of privacy and anonymity as it relates to password managers, VPNs, and more. How in the end, it just needs to work for consumers and not become more friction than its worth. What is at stake with the loss of privacy and how the Snowden revelations was DDG's breakthrough moment.
Kaliya and Seth talk amongst themselves about this week in privacy, surveillance and anonymity. How every day is the same day, and how we are breaking up the zoom brain dead zones to create some novelty in our lives.
Pavel joins us from Europe to discuss what one should, and more importantly what one should not, share about themselves online. He suggests some very clear action items for all of us in terms of turning off location tracking and auto app refreshes on our iPhones, deleting our social media accounts, and using different fake names for all of our accounts. He and Seth talk about how they met and came to found Spartacus. Kaliya updates us on the latest from her Internet Identity Workshop held virtually last week. And Seth tries to connect the dots between privacy, next generation credit bureaus, private keys and self-sovereign identity. We refer to this article about "The Scoring of America" that the FTC published in 2014.
Antti Jogi Poikola from MyData joins PSA podcast to talk about his upcoming, comprehensive paper on personal data operators https://mydata-global.org/operator-white-paper. We talk about balancing fear vs greed when it comes to privacy and personal data monetization, as well as Jogi's own evolution from thinking about data advocacy in terms of privacy towards a more utilitarian perspective.
Kaliya and Seth tackle further implications of contact tracing as it relates to privacy, anonymity and identity. How do we want to be cared for? What are we trying to protect? What happens when protecting ourselves digitally is at odds with our civil duty to protect our physical selves? And some neighbor drilling to heighten tension...
Kaliya and Seth are joined by old friend, and green data activist, Johannes Ernst (of home data server company indiecomputing.com) in a great discussion about the $Trillion dollar personal data and surveillance tech opportunities emerging from this epidemic. What can we do to trace each other’s contacts? What can we do to protect our privacy? How do we manage this tension? What is the role of Facebook among others to provide the scale necessary to enroll everybody in a pandemic protocol that won’t sacrifice their fundamental privacy values.
Kaliya and Seth introduce each other and how we met and came to create this podcast. Then we talk about Zoom’s growth challenges vis a vis privacy. Then we start thinking through contact tracing as it relates to privacy and open up a broader conversation about how to preserve anonymity in a world that desperately needs to know where we have each been and who we have been in contact with.