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Radical Learning Talks

Radical Learning Talks

By Radical Learning

Radical Learning Talks is a bi-weekly podcast where Sari González and Becka Koritz explore different unschooling/deschooling/conscious parenting topics with the focus of shifting the way we think about education, learning, parenting, relationships, community and much more.

Sari and Becka are unschooling mamas, parent coaches and leaders in the self-directed education movement. They provide support at the intersection of unschooling, parenting, relationships and community building through various kinds of unschooling tools and resources for self-directed learning families and communities.
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22. Being Free in an Unfree World?

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34. The Evolution from Unschooling to Deschooling
34. The Evolution from Unschooling to Deschooling
Whether you come to unschooling focused only on liberated learning, social justice, conscious parenting or from an intersectional lens, the pathway is layered and complex and usually leads us to deep questioning and transformation. In this episode we share about our entryways into unschooling and our evolution through the never ending process of deschooling.
32:19
November 25, 2022
33. Conscious Parenting and Divesting in Sandcastles w/ Domari Dickinson
33. Conscious Parenting and Divesting in Sandcastles w/ Domari Dickinson
Can we tell you how much we love this episode with the amazing and courageous Domari Dickinson - a recovering educator, unschooling mother of 4, badass parent coach and leading voice in the SDE movement.  Domari openly shares about her deschooling journey of going from an approval chasing, controlling, punishing mom to a conscious, peaceful and revolutionary parent. We talk about what trips us up in the conscious parenting & deschooling journey, divesting in oppressive systems and what unschooling can truly look like.
48:05
November 11, 2022
32. When You Discover Your Kid Is Neurodivergent
32. When You Discover Your Kid Is Neurodivergent
What do you do when you realize your kid isn't like other kids? Are you trying to force them to behave in a more socially acceptable way? Or do you blame yourself for not being a good enough parent?  In this episode we share what it has been like for us to discover that our kids are neurodivergent, how we're navigating it and how unschooling is an amazing way of embracing your kids' unique self!
38:55
October 28, 2022
31. The Pitfalls of Treating Kids Like Adults
31. The Pitfalls of Treating Kids Like Adults
We often hear parents say that they treat their kids like adults - and believe us, we’ve done it ourselves! But why do we do that? And should we, really?  In this episode we talk about the pitfalls of treating kids like adults.
27:27
October 14, 2022
30. Lifelong Learning with Alex Bretas
30. Lifelong Learning with Alex Bretas
In this episode we are chatting with Alex Bretas, a Brazilian visionary, author, community organizer and a leading voice in the SDE movement. We talk about why it's so hard for adults to learn how to self-direct, what stands in the way that we need to unlearn, the importance of community and the difference between formal and informal studies. For Alex, there's no doubt: self-direction is the way humans learn!
49:50
September 30, 2022
29. The Role of The Unschooling Parent
29. The Role of The Unschooling Parent
In this episode we share our perception of what our role as unschooling parents is.  For us, the most critical thing in unschooling is understanding that more than anything, what our kids need is for us to do some serious inner work on ourselves. That means it's not so much about “doing things right”, but rather focusing on the relationship we’re building with our kids. Why? Because relationships are the context in which all learning happens!
23:29
September 16, 2022
28. Walking the Walk: Deschooling our ALC
28. Walking the Walk: Deschooling our ALC
What do you do when you realize that your dream project no longer matches how you want to feel or how you want to do things? Well, in our case, when it comes to our ALC Explora, we decided to deschool the whole project! What will it look like? Listen in and learn more about it!
31:26
September 02, 2022
27. Decolonizing Education w/ Chemay Morales-James
27. Decolonizing Education w/ Chemay Morales-James
In this episode, we dive deep with Chemay Morals-James, founder of My Reflection Matters Village and a social liberation & equity coach.  We talk about her virtual deschooling community and deschooling as decolonization work, what's wrong with the school system and the importance of learning - and unlearning - in community.
42:55
August 19, 2022
26. Signs That It's Time to Deschool
26. Signs That It's Time to Deschool
There are times in our lives when we just know something is off and needs to shift, but we don't exactly what or how. In this episode we talk about some signs that tell us that our lense needs to shift around learning, parenting, relationships and community.  We talk about how this is the initial spark of all deschooling work and why this is our focus in our upcoming training - The Shift!
34:27
August 05, 2022
25. Are We Experimenting on Our Kids?
25. Are We Experimenting on Our Kids?
One of the biggest fears of us parents is fucking up our kids. Therefore most of us are doing all we can to find a parenting style and an education that will guarantee that our kids turn into good, successful humans.  But is there really any foolproof method? Isn't it all a huge experiment? Unschooling for sure is, and instead of hiding it, in this episode we embrace the fact that yes, we are experimenting with our kids!
30:01
July 22, 2022
24. Living Joyfully Without School w/ Lucy AitkenRead
24. Living Joyfully Without School w/ Lucy AitkenRead
In this episode we have a blast with Lucy AitkenRead, a bad-ass unschooler and unschooling mom that works to support parents on their deschooling/unschooling journey.  We cover soooo many topics in this chat: how the unschooling movement is evolving, how we've all been wounded by school, how deschooling is deep healing work - and so much more!
49:38
July 08, 2022
23. Are You Having a Teaching Moment?
23. Are You Having a Teaching Moment?
Have you ever been in a situation with your kid where you suddenly feel the urge to teach them something you think is valuable and find yourself shoveling knowledge down their throats?  We call those teaching moments, and they're as yucky as they sound! In this episode we'll dissect what this very common phenomenon is about, why we dislike it so much and what to do instead.
29:12
June 24, 2022
22. Being Free in an Unfree World?
22. Being Free in an Unfree World?
We were a little drained recording this one after a big week of some unpleasant but necessary learning experiences in navigating being free in an unfree world.  So many questions...how do we navigate different values and beliefs between our unschooling/deschooling world and the dominant culture? How do we meet others that may be bound by old beliefs? What is the responsibility we adults/parents hold in supporting our kids to navigate these worlds as we are all working hard to bridge the gaps and create more togetherness and connection in this world? How do we navigate our multicultural (unschooling and schoolish) experiences? It may not be the most upbeat episode but we start to dive into it all here.
23:29
June 13, 2022
21: Embracing Neurodiversity & Diversity in Unschooling w/ Crystal Byrd Farmer
21: Embracing Neurodiversity & Diversity in Unschooling w/ Crystal Byrd Farmer
In this episode we chat with Crystal Byrd Farmer an autistic person of color that runs an ALC focused on supporting neurodivergent kids and the author of the book “The Token: Common Sense Ideas for Increasing Diversity in Your Organization” .  This interview is packed with so much… we talk about supporting neurodivergent & disabled kids in SDE spaces, deschooling as a tool for deprogramming beliefs and expectations imposed by dominant culture, how SDE is anti-oppression work by advocating for children's rights, how we can move towards building spaces focused on equity, inclusivity and diversity, how to avoid burnout by holding firm boundaries, and SO much more.
38:59
May 27, 2022
20. We aren’t ferpect parents (...on perfection)
20. We aren’t ferpect parents (...on perfection)
Today Sari & Becka share about their deschooling around the idea of perfectionism. They chat about how perfectionism is actually quite an oppressive practice for ourselves and our kids and of the importance to look at and shift away from these practices to embrace our life outside of shadow’s of other’s ideas of what we should be or do.
32:06
May 13, 2022
19. Are you Empowering or Shielding Your Kids?
19. Are you Empowering or Shielding Your Kids?
"It’s ok... nothing happened, you are all good! Don't worry, we will get another pet! Don’t be upset, you will feel better soon! Don’t be so angry!" The list goes on for how we have been shielded or now shield our kids around big emotions. In this episode we chat about the dangers of shielding kids from big emotions, how emotions are a compass for meeting unmet needs and how we empower kids to advocate for themselves by understanding their emotions and the world around them.
32:03
May 02, 2022
18. Unschooling as Liberation & Social Justice Work w/ Iris Chen
18. Unschooling as Liberation & Social Justice Work w/ Iris Chen
In this episode we have the pleasure of chatting with Iris Chen, a deconstructing tiger mom, unschooling partner, youth advocate, liberation activist and writer of the book Untigering: Peaceful Parenting for the Deconstructing Tiger Parent.  Iris shares about how unschooling is deep social justice work, her family’s journey in transitioning to unschooling and how she has shifted from authoritarian to more peaceful parenting. By the end of this episode we hope you will feel as pumped up as we do about your own role in this larger liberation movement!
43:25
April 15, 2022
17. How to Talk About Taboos
17. How to Talk About Taboos
Your kid asks to talk about sex, racism, religion, death, addiction, _______ (fill in the blank)… Do you clam up and freak out, or do see it as an opportunity to create a safe space and build relationship with them?  As a follow up on our episode on how to raise conscious boys, we share more on what our experience has been in talking about taboos with our kids and how we see these moments as gateways for deepening connection and trust.
25:50
April 01, 2022
16. Machismo & Raising Conscious Boys
16. Machismo & Raising Conscious Boys
In this episode we pick up from the last episode and get really vulnerable. We share personal stories around the themes of power, patriarchy, machismo and our critical role in raising boys into conscious men and how that is tied to deschooling and liberation work. TRIGGER WARNING: In this episode we talk about sexual harassment and violence. We acknowledge that we are two privileged women who are speaking from our perspective and experience and the content around sexual harassment and violence may bring discomfort. Our intention is to bring awareness and open up dialogue around these themes never to shame, blame, expose or exclude anyone. If we can do better, please let us know, we are always learning. You can find the podcast referenced in the episode here: https://raisingfreepeople.com/232/
35:09
March 18, 2022
15. Patriarchy, Power Dynamics and Parenting with Dr Sundiata
15. Patriarchy, Power Dynamics and Parenting with Dr Sundiata
This is a big one friends and just might rock your world!  In this episode we are talking to Dr. Sundiata Soon-Jahta, father of 2 self-directed learners, anti oppression educator and creator of the Theory of Indivisibility. We talk about tools of oppression, power dynamics, patriarchy and how to build sustainable relationships and communities in the world! You can find all of Dr. Sundiata’s life work including his Theory of Indivisibility here: https://drsundiata.com You can support Dr. Sundiata’s work here: https://www.patreon.com/LiveIndivisible
49:49
March 04, 2022
 14. The Importance of Supporting Kids to Take Risks
14. The Importance of Supporting Kids to Take Risks
Your kid wants to jump off of that cliff, cut with a sharp knife, walk to the store by themselves… How do you respond? In this episode we talk about the role of risk taking in our kid’s evolution, what trips us up in the process and how supporting our kids to take risks not only helps them grow, but also helps us foster more connection and trust in our relationships with them.
37:14
February 18, 2022
13. Is Play Your Friend or Foe?
13. Is Play Your Friend or Foe?
In this episode we talk about the importance of play in our deschooling process and in supporting ourselves and our youth to live authentic and free lives.  We discuss how play is an expression of freedom and the role play holds in our lives to break free from societal expectations. 
34:06
February 05, 2022
12. Why You Shouldn’t Send Your Kids to School with Blake Boles
12. Why You Shouldn’t Send Your Kids to School with Blake Boles
Ever wonder what a group of unschoolers does with their autonomy in a foreign country? How unschooling truly prepares youth for the future? What the role of an adult is in an unschoolers’ journey? Or even why some of us may still be sending our kids to school?  In this episode, we dive into these questions and more with our friend Blake Boles, writer, speaker, podcaster and SDE (self-directed education) advocate. Blake shares insights from years of research and direct support of unschooling youth on international adventures with his program Unschooling Adventures.  You can find more info on Blake and his work at https://www.blakeboles.com
43:12
January 21, 2022
11. What’s Up with Challenging Our Kids?
11. What’s Up with Challenging Our Kids?
Why do we think we need to challenge kids all the time? What does that say about our mindset, our fears and our trust in our kids? In this episode we explore ideas about how we learn and how we can support our kids’ natural learning process without falling back into the pressure cooker of challenge.
30:59
January 07, 2022
10. Slow Living as an Act of Rebellion
10. Slow Living as an Act of Rebellion
Consumerist practices are wiping out ways of living more slowly. Our lives are dictated by schedules and deadlines and expectations defined by others.  In this episode we discuss how slow living and unschooling are acts of rebellion against oppressive systems and how important it is to reclaim our lives and center relationships, community and freedom.
38:59
December 10, 2021
9. Meet Teo Koritz, An Unschooling Teen
9. Meet Teo Koritz, An Unschooling Teen
Want to peek into the mind of an unschooler?  In this episode, Teo, a 16 year old neurodiverse unschooler talks about his perspectives on unschooling including learning, freedom, trust, boundaries, relationships and how unschooling is supporting him to live an authentic, empowering and liberating life.
41:43
November 26, 2021
8. Why Does Screen Time Freak Us Out?
8. Why Does Screen Time Freak Us Out?
Many unschooling parents and adults supporting youth are fine to advocate for kid’s freedom until the dreaded “screen time” comes up.  We find that many times we are able to trust in our kids and their choices in certain areas, but when it comes to screen use we clam up, forget about what they are navigating and learning and slip into fear and control.  In this episode of Radical Learning Talks, we explore why screen time freaks us out and invite us to explore some different perspectives. As you listen, we would love to ask some big questions: - In what ways do you limit your kids?  - How can you challenge your own thinking around their freedom?  - What if you’re wrong and they’re right? Please let us know what comes up for you and what is challenging/hard!
35:28
November 12, 2021
7. Consent-based Learning and Parenting
7. Consent-based Learning and Parenting
In this episode we will be speaking about a big topic which we feel we don't talk about enough in the context of parenting and learning… it’s the topic of consent. Today we chat about how consent is part of the foundational work of moving away from systems of control towards those of mutual understanding and freedom.
28:14
October 29, 2021
6. Breaking Cycles with Liz Neuenschwander
6. Breaking Cycles with Liz Neuenschwander
In this episode we speak with Liz, an unschooling mother and facilitator at an agile learning center.  Liz shares about her transition to unschooling, how unschooling is liberation and anti-oppression work and about her deep journey in shifting towards building relationships based on trust and collaboration.
37:06
October 15, 2021
5. Facing our Fears
5. Facing our Fears
We are living in a time of extreme fear and uncertainty, which for many of us causes us to make restrictive choices.  In this episode we dive into how our fears disempower us and limit us from living truly fulfilling lives and how our fears affect our relationships.  We also give tips on how to unpack our fears, heal generational trauma and develop the courage to live more freely as we embark on our unschooling journey.
33:29
October 01, 2021
4. What is Deschooling?
4. What is Deschooling?
In this episode we demystify the meaning of deschooling and how it is a tool for liberation...moving away from systems based on control and fear, towards authenticity and transformation. We talk about how deschooling is a process for both children and adults and how it’s ultimately about breaking cycles, detoxing from oppressive structures and nurturing the relationship between adults and children.  We also share tips for adults to help support and advocate for their kid’s freedom.
34:44
September 17, 2021
3. Notes from an Unschooled Unschooling Mom: Merry MacIvor Andersen
3. Notes from an Unschooled Unschooling Mom: Merry MacIvor Andersen
In this episode, we interview  Merry MacIvor Andersen, a former unschooler, current unschooling mom and community member of an agile learning center in Mexico.  Merry shares about the beauties and challenges of unschooling and about the importance of self reflection and authencity in building relationships based on trust.
26:26
September 03, 2021
2. What is Self-Directed Education?
2. What is Self-Directed Education?
In this episode we define what self directed education, unschooling and free learning are and how any education system should not be “one size fits all”.   We discuss the roots of the education system and begin to challenge the conventional way of looking at how we learn. How is the SDE model better preparing our kids to adapt to an ever changing world? We talk about how SDE works, what are some options in SDE, what are some tips in approaching SDE and we begin to look at the process of deschooling.
39:32
August 20, 2021
1. The Shift - Introduction
1. The Shift - Introduction
This podcast is an intro into who Sari and Becka are, what inspired them to unschool, how the pandemic has inspired a paradigm shift and what radical learning means.  They share more about the shift they are hoping to inspire and support in others of questioning how we look at learning, education, and it means to be in community. How can we get back to our roots and allow ourselves to witness the natural learning process in ourselves and others? What are some things that trip us up and what are some practical tips on how we can begin to challenge our fears and shift our mindset to embrace unschooling, free learning and equitable relationship building?  Sari and Becka talk about the foundations of free learning and how we as parents have a wonderful opportunity to dare to question how we are doing things, what kinds of relationships we want to have and and what future we want for ourselves, our kids, our families and the world.
33:18
August 08, 2021