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Welcome to the Real Estate Underground podcast! This podcast is dedicated to serving all real estate investors to help them achieve the lifestyle they deserve through knowledge, education, experience, and our rapidly growing community.
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Show #23 - Charles Dobens

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Show #29 - Brandon Cobb
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #29! Brandon Cobb is the owner and partner of HBG Capital, a vertically integrated real estate firm providing investors with superior risk-adjusted returns and downside principal protection backed by tangible assets in the residential single-family construction sector in Nashville, TN & Commercial Multifamily Acquisitions in the Southeast United States. HBG Capital's construction arm - HBG Construction, executes ground-up new developments, land development, and residential property rehabilitation in Nashville, TN. Brandon was a former sports medicine medical device sales rep before becoming a licensed GC in TN, managing 16 Million+ of new development annually and active ownership in 33 million in commercial real estate. He was featured on the cover of REI Wealth magazine, Realty 411 Magazine, and quoted and published in Forbes magazine. Resources: Website: Additional Resources: Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
August 16, 2022
Show #28 - Kris Morin
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #28! Kris Morin brings 12 years of real estate investing experience and has participated in more than 100 transactions in various roles, including buyer, limited partner, and coach to new investors. Once a struggling teacher, Kris is now an accredited investor, owns a multimillion-dollar portfolio, and is now buying apartment complexes in the Southeast and Midwest.  During his journey, Kris even started a Ferrari wholesale business. Kris also balances investing with working full-time as Director of Strategy for a Fortune 150 company in Connecticut. Resources: Facebook: Additional Resources: Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
August 09, 2022
Show #27 - Chris Prefontaine
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #27! Chris Prefontaine is a 3-time best-selling author of Real Estate on Your Terms, The New Rules of Real Estate Investing, and Moneeka Sawyer's Real Estate Investing for Women. He's also the Founder and CEO of and the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast host. Chris has been in real estate for over 30 years. His experience ranges from constructing new homes in the 1990s and owning a Realty Executive Franchise to running his investments (commercial & residential) and coaching clients throughout North America. After the crash of 2008, Chris reengineered his entire business to weather all storms and economic cycles. Understanding these challenges, he helps students navigate the constantly changing real estate waters. Today, Chris runs his buying and selling business with his family team, which purchases 2-5 properties monthly, so they're in the trenches weekly. They also help their students do the same thing across North America, working together on another 25-30 properties monthly. Free giveaway: Master's Class: Strategy Call: Book Request: Resources: Website: Podcast: Facebook Page: Google +: Youtube: Instagram: LinkedIn: Twitter: Additional Resources: Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
August 02, 2022
Show #26 - Marco Kozlowski
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #26! Marco Kozlowski is a co-founder of Capra Capital, a boutique Real Estate Investing Mentor, and a serial entrepreneur. For more than 22 years he’s been buying real estate, working his way up from single-family homes to, today, owning more than 6,000 units across various asset classes including multifamily, hospitality, and mobile home parks. Marco is a big believer in contributing to his community and enjoys donating 10% of his projects' proceeds. Resources: Podcast: Big Fat Real Estate Checks Website: Additional Resources: Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
July 26, 2022
Show #25 - Brandon Rush
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #25! Brandon Rush has been a real estate investor since 2020. For the past 13 years, he has worked in the information technology industry, specifically K-12 and Higher Education. Brandon left his IT career to pursue a new life as a real estate agent and investor. In 2019 while on a flight to Peru, Brandon read the book “The Magnolia Story” by Chip and Joanna Gaines. In the book, Chip was acquiring houses on the same street for little to no money down. At this moment, Brandon decided real estate would be his way to escape the rat race and create a future he could control.  Brandon hosts the Network Education Invest (NEI) Real Estate Investor Meetup in Central Connecticut. He is also a member of a real estate mastermind community which he credits with many of his successes so far. While not working on real estate, Brandon enjoys traveling the world with his wife, mountain/road biking, and visiting wineries. Resources: Facebook: @rushdpi Website: Additional Resources: Phone: 860-876-0572 Be a member of CTREIA: Join CTREIA Coaching Program:  Fund Your Deal:  Insurance For Real Estate Investors:
July 19, 2022
Show #24 - Gary Crawford
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #24! Gary has been in the real estate industry for over 5 years. After graduating from the University of New Haven with a double major in Marketing and Entrepreneurship, he moved to Las Vegas to start his real estate ventures. His first property was a live-in-house hack in which he cash flowed $3,200 a month living rent-free and sold the property for a 144k profit. After that, he went all-in on real estate and has since completed 150+ transactions between wholesales, fix and flips, rentals, and traditional sales throughout Nevada, New Mexico, California, Florida, Ohio, and now New York/Connecticut. Gary's primary focus is now on the acquisition, underwriting, and asset management for Flippin' CT. Resources: Phone: 914-207-5729 Website: Additional Resources: Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
July 12, 2022
Show #23 - Charles Dobens
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #23! Charles Dobens is a multifamily investor, attorney, and mentor to multifamily investors all around the country. Charles founded the Multifamily Investing Academy, where he works with students in his Owner Forum program to train them in the correct way to acquire, operate and own multifamily property. His legal and consulting practice has one specialty - helping new investors overcome any lack of confidence in moving toward their financial objective of owning and operating apartments. Charles is uniquely qualified to walk investors confidently through the entire process: analyzing a property, negotiating contracts, organizing funding, and transitioning to ownership. Resources: Website: Additional Resources: Phone: 860-876-0572 Be a member of CTREIA: Join CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal: Insurance For Real Estate Investors:
July 05, 2022
Show #22 - Mark Podolsky
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #22! Today's guest is known as "The Land Geek." Mark Podolsky is widely considered to be the country's most trusted and foremost authority on buying and selling raw, undeveloped land. Today, Mark will share his journey into the world of buying, selling, and leasing raw land as an investment. He has actively invested in real estate and raw land for almost twenty years and completed over 5,000 unique transactions. Resources: Website: Additional Resources: Phone: 860-876-0572 Become a member of CTREIA: Join the CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal:
June 28, 2022
Show #21 - Heather Douglass
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #21! Heather Douglass has been a Real Estate Investor since 2016. She credits the education provided by the CTREIA coaching program and Alan Cowgill for the ability to grow her $60K holdings to over $1M in roughly five years, all financed with private money. If you want to get in touch with Heather, check her information below. Resources: Phone: 860-756-0939 Email: Social Media: hdpaysitforward Additional Resources: Be a member of CTREIA: Join CTREIA Coaching Program: Fund Your Deal: Insurance For Real Estate Investors:
June 20, 2022
Show #20 - Alan Cowgill
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #20 If you've ever tried to raise money for your real estate investments, you've probably read one of Alan's books on how to make it happen.  If you haven't, this episode is for you! The great Alan Cowgill gives us some of his best ideas on how to raise money from private lenders, even if you don't have any money of your own.  Listen to this episode and learn how the pros do it.
June 14, 2022
Show #19 - Jason Courtney
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #19! Think you need to go to a fancy college to be successful in real estate?  Nope. Jason Courtney is proof positive you can begin from anywhere in life and still achieve your life's goals.   Listen to this amazing story of life transformation, redemption and success from a man who has gone from incarceration to never having to work another day in his life, all by getting on the right path and using real estate to create generational wealth.
June 07, 2022
Show #18 - Bard Kligerman
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #18! Welcome to the NBA, friends.   Bard Kligerman is the CEO of Connecticut Realty Trust. Bard made his bones while buying and rehabbing affordable housing, beginning in Waterbury. Since 2007, Bard and his team have acquired more than 1,500 units here in Connecticut.  Bard brings a unique business philosophy to his operation. Connecticut Realty Trust is focused on creating clean and safe assets where his residents are happy to live. He's successfully reduced his vacancy rates, well below the general market, and he has strong, long-standing partnerships with his residents.   Bard is now building a 90+ unit development in Granby.  Listen to this episode to learn how a real estate pro, at the top of his game, operates.
May 31, 2022
Show #17 - Brendan Chisholm
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #17! Go to college, they said. Get a good job and you'll be all set, they said. Brendan Chisholm was where a lot of us were. He has a good education and a good job. He tried jumping into the stock market gambling machine and didn't enjoy the ride. He soon realized he was looking for a more stable, predictable investment approach by buying real estate to build cash flow and accumulate wealth. With that, he jumped in headfirst. Brendan is proof you don't need a massive pile of cash to successfully invest in real estate. Listen to this episode to hear all about how he's grown so large, so quickly.
May 26, 2022
Show #16 - Luke Florian
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #16! Luke Florian grew up watching his parents build their real estate business.  He then jumped into wholesaling and flipping single-family homes. A graduate of the CTREIA Coaching Program, Luke is growing a multi-family portfolio and, now, also getting into the self-storage space.  His focus has gone from cash position to building generational wealth. Listen in to this show to hear from one of Connecticut's most active and successful investors.
May 10, 2022
Show #15 - Ahmed Khan
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #15 Ahmed Khan is a residential buy and hold investor, who sprinkled in a little bit of rehabbing on the side.  Ahmed is an experienced entrepreneur who uses his experience as a technical Project Manager to accumulate an impressive portfolio in a short period of time. Ahmed began his investing career acquiring and flipping gas stations with a family member when he recognized the opportunity in residential real estate. Ahmed brings his unique perspective to this episode.  He will tell you how he looks at a deal, how he breaks down the numbers and how he delivers results.
April 05, 2022
Show #14 - Julie Greco
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #14. The one...the only...Julie Greco!  This #ctreia veteran joins the Real Estate Underground crew for an interesting and fun exploration of the real estate investing world.  Julie is an entrepreneur, corporate rat trace escapee, and actress turned real estate investor who brought her big brain, tenacious networking prowess, and sparkling personality to master several different asset classes. From tax notes, to flips to multi-family, Julie has crushed it across several areas within the real estate investing world. Join us if you want to learn how a seasoned pro built her impressive portfolio.
March 29, 2022
Show #13 - Tom & Kevin Williams
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #13 Tom and Kevin Williams are a father and son team using their extensive legal, accounting, and digital marketing expertise to build a broad portfolio across multiple asset classes. From notes to multifamily to mobile home parks, this duo is well on their way to growing a substantial portfolio.   This episode is for anyone who wants to learn how this high-performing team executes their unique approach to real estate investment.
March 22, 2022
Show #12 - Dave Devito
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #12 Dave Devito is a real estate entrepreneur's entrepreneur. He is an investor, wholesaler, realtor, and mortgage broker.  He is a walking one-stop-shop of creative real estate deal-making. Here at the Underground, we're pretty sure the guy never sleeps. Dave is one of those special people you come across who is good at everything, hard-working, honest, and on top of it all, a really good dude. Dave is a wealth of information and a networking dynamo. Listen in to this episode to learn how he approaches his deal-making, hear about some of his successes, a new venture he's creating and how he overcame a property fire early in his career. You'll also hear how this deal machine is building a thriving and interconnected real estate juggernaut.
March 14, 2022
Show #11 - Mark Goux
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #11 Mark Goux is a professional rehabber, student housing maven, and all-around rental property rock star! In this week's episode, Mark joins Ed and Rich from Clark St Holdings' worldwide headquarters! Mark spent more than a decade in the restaurant business building struggling locations back into becoming profit centers, again, for his partner company.  Like many of us here in the Underground, Mark made the leap into real estate after he realized his bosses were never going to compensate him in line with the value he delivered.  So he took his considerable talents and his no BS mindset to the real estate world and has been crushing it ever since. Mark has led a truly interesting life...from the restaurant world to the professional wrestling ring, to the Jerry Springer Show, and now, to real estate.  Listen in to one of our most interesting, eclectic, and information-packed episodes yet!
March 01, 2022
Show #10 - Risby Drayton
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #10! Creative financing is in our next guest's DNA. Risby Drayton is rapidly building an impressive portfolio of residential properties throughout Connecticut. Risby has mastered the use of personal and business credit as well as how to acquire properties 'subject to' current financing. Listen in if you're low on funds and full of motivation to break free from the corporate rat race.  Risby Drayton has it figured out and he's dropping gold nuggets throughout this interview.
February 22, 2022
Show #9 - Linda Baumgarten
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #9! Linda Baumgarten is back! Linda is the co-founder of the Connecticut Real Estate Investors Association and a successful real estate investor in her own rite. A mentor to so many of us, Linda has generously offered her experience and expertise to thousands of real estate investors over the past 15+ years, and now she's back for more! Listen in if you want to learn about wholesaling, buying, and selling multi-families or rehabbing condos, we cover a ton of ground with Linda. She is a wealth of knowledge.
February 15, 2022
Show #8 - Adam Bonoff
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #8! Adam Bonoff is a Stock Broker, Trader, and Sales Executive turned real estate investor.  He is the Managing Member of Long Hill Partners LLC, a  buy and hold and student housing investment firm.  Needless to say, with his vast investing experience, Adam has his expert fingers in a whole bunch of asset classes.   Listen in if you want to learn about his unique perspective on the market both here in Connecticut and elsewhere.
February 11, 2022
Show # 7 - Attorney Timothy Goetz
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #7 As you build your team, a BIG key to success is working with professionals who speaks "real estate investor".  Attorney Timothy Goetz is certainly one of those professionals. Not only does Tim run one of the fastest-growing firms in Connecticut, but he and his wife also own a portfolio of properties here in Connecticut. Time brings over ten years of experience representing buyers and sellers in residential and commercial real estate transactions. He also provides legal assistance for business owners in a variety of commercial transactions and he handles estate planning matters of all degrees for clients in both Connecticut and Massachusetts, where he is licensed at both the state and federal levels. If you're looking to learn how an investor looks at deals with the trained eye of an attorney, you don't want to miss this episode.
February 02, 2022
Show # 6 - Paul Finck
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #6 Negotiation is the foundation of any good real estate deal.  Paul Finck, The Maverick Millionaire, is the best of the best.  He is bringing his unique Negotiation Mastery strategies to this show, and the upcoming CTREIA meetings in Central CT (January 17) and Fairfield Co (January 18), as well as an all day workshop on Negotiation Mastery, on Saturday January 22, at the CTREIA Training Center. Paul is the father of not one...not two...but THREE sets of twins! Needless to say, he is highly motivated to make it happen in all that he does. He is one of the foremost authorities in business and personal development today. His mission is to guide you to reach YOUR ultimate goals and dreams by sharing his vast array of skill sets acquired over 30 years of sales, marketing and entrepreneurial experience so you can become all your were always meant to be.
January 14, 2022
Show #5 - Rob Makas
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #5!  Think realtors don't understand how investing works...think again.  Rob Makas is a realtor, a flipper, a buy and hold investor, and, now, a vacation rental SuperHost! Rob has been in the Real Estate Industry for over 10 years. Along with his wife and business partner, Rebecca, they run Flip It Good. Flip It Real Good. They are also one of the top realtor teams working for the Miale Team, a Keller Williams powerhouse, right here in Connecticut. In 2021, the Miale Team sold more than 800 properties. Rob Makas is one of the rainmakers who made that happen. Listen in to how Rob got his start. Hear how he approaches different opportunities, how he manages growth, and what drives him to be one of CTREIA's most successful investors and deal makers.
January 11, 2022
Show #4 - Oz Pariser
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #4! On this week's show, we talk with family man, Realtor, wholesaler, multi-family investor, and jujitsu badass, Oz Pariser! Learn how he approaches the Connecticut market from multiple perspectives to create and take down the deals to grow his ever-expanding rental property portfolio.  You'll also hear about how he uses the power of habit to discipline his life and his business, leading him to the entrepreneurial success he has already achieved in his exciting career.
December 21, 2021
Show #3 - Stephanie Cabral
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #3! Stephanie Cabral is the founder of Sunrise Real Estate, LLC.  A native to Connecticut, Stephanie offers a local, personable contact in the cash buyers world. She is a lawyer by trade, so she stands out against other investors by leveraging her problem-solving skills to achieve win-win situations for her clients. Compassion and a desire to help good people out of bad real estate situations drives her to help homeowners no matter what their situation is. Financial woes, bad tenants, poor property condition, life changes…she’s seen it all. Listen to how Stephanie got into this business, what drives her and how she uses creative tax strategies to grow her business even faster!
December 14, 2021
Show #2 - Melissa Shea
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #2! Don't think you have enough time to invest in real estate?  Listen how Melissa Shea, President of the Long Island REIA, as well as CEO at Everyday Funding Services, Everyday Capital LLC, EXiT Realty Long Island/Connecticut/Rhode Island, Meeting of The Minds, Mentoring Masterminds and Clear The Way Supportive Housing Corp...Oh and she's the mother of 8 beautiful children and has an equally amazing husband. Melissa has been a small business owner since 1996 and a real estate investor since 2004.  She's seen it all. Melissa is active in the real estate educational world outside of the LIREIA, as well, hosting educational seminars on how to structure and finance deals and rehabbing distressed properties as well as financial education for both adults and children. As the lead instructor of Mentoring Masterminds, her goal is to motivate individuals to attain financial freedom through real estate investing. She is a licensed NY Real Estate Broker and has experience in negotiating short sales and working with homeowners facing foreclosure and assisting homeowners to stay in their homes. Needless to say, Melissa is a force of nature full of wisdom and experience.  You definitely don't want to miss this episode.
December 07, 2021
Show #1 - David Haberfeld
Welcome To The Real Estate Underground Show #1!  David Haberfeld is an entrepreneur's entrepreneur.  He is the President of Landlord Solutions LLC.  Landlord Solutions is a small business focused on personalizing its clients' search for their next home. They take their time to find the perfect neighbors and tenants for their properties. Whether a client is looking for an apartment, a house, or a commercial space to grow your business, Landlord Solutions have a great fit.   In addition to his extensive real estate business, David owns multiple business operations across restaurants, auto dealerships and others.   Listen to how David got his start, approaches his opportunities, manages and grows his various business and gives back to his community.
December 04, 2021