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By Billy and Jason
Mental Health conversation centered around 12 step recovery and related topics. We talk about spiritual living, living with addiction and growing in the 12 steps. Find us on our home at recoverysortof.com/. If you want to join the conversation, email us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf, Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/, or Facebook: www.facebook.com/Recovery-Sort-Of-112376247161866/?view_public_for=112376247161866.
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99: How Can We Prepare Our Children for Mental Health and Addiction? (Sort Of)

Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast

99: How Can We Prepare Our Children for Mental Health and Addiction? (Sort Of)

Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast

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101: Tradition 9 - NA, as such, Ought Never be Organized; but We May Create Service Boards or Committees Directly Responsible to Those They Serve (Sort Of)
Tradition Nine: NA, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve. What is the ninth tradition really saying? Are Narcotics Anonymous, and other 12 step fellowship, supposed to be disorganized? Does this apply to meetings and groups, or only to the service bodies? How can a program or fellowship be successful if they aren't organized? How can we use tradition 9 to better our own spiritual wellbeing inside and outside of the fellowship? We discuss everything about the 9th tradition and even sticky peanut butter and jelly in this episode. Check it out and then check out all the tradition talks we've done. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Expectations episode Enabling episode
01:05:36
September 19, 2021
100: To Enable or Not to Enable, That is the Question (Sort Of)
Enabling. It's bad right? You don't want to be called an enabler. The person that is just letting their loved one use without consequence. Because all those consequences like being homeless, not eating, being totally alone when you do your street drugs, they are going to get you clean or sober, right? We have Jenny join us to take a deep dive into the idea of enabling. We discuss if enabling is harmful behavior, or if it's possible that it keeps you alive long enough to possibly seek treatment. Is tough love really the answer? Are people really better off on the other end of tough love? Are those types of consequences really what pushes people to get clean? We've considered the idea of enabling to be a bad thing for a long time, but it's time we think more about harm reduction and helping people stay alive. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Expectations episode
01:10:58
September 12, 2021
99: How Can We Prepare Our Children for Mental Health and Addiction? (Sort Of)
Do you talk to your kids about drugs? Do you remember what your parents and others said to you about drug use? Was it helpful? We explore the idea of how to prepare our children for a world where drug abuse, alcoholism, and severe mental health problems exist. Was the DARE program actually useful? The world of addiction being a moral failing is all but gone, yet we still hold onto the idea of "just say no" as the way to talk with our children about drug use. Knowing how Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) substantially increase the odds of addiction and mental health outcomes, do we do our best to avoid ACEs in our kids' lives? Is that the best we can do? Can telling our children about our own experiences and warning them that there is a biological link to the chances of them also struggling help at all? Generally, we agree that being honest is useful, age appropriately, of course. Join us as we explore the topic of how to break the cycle of addiction and mental health struggles, then let us know any strategies you've come up with that you think are useful. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. ACEs episode
52:27
September 5, 2021
98: Expectations - Getting Real About Unrealistic Expectations (Sort Of)
We are guided in recovery to avoid unrealistic expectations, but what makes an expectation unrealistic? Are we supposed to walk around in our lives and not expect anything? Are realistic expectations healthy? Can we still be let down when our realistic expectations aren't met? Is there really a way to get rid of our expectations? Or even alter our expectations? Is tempering expectations an actual thing we are capable of, or do we just stuff them down and still get hurt by the outcomes? Are we giving up time that we could have been feeling hopeful by lessening our expectations? Is there a spiritual principle that can be applied to tempering our expectations? We have on Caraline to help us explore the world of expectations in recovery, what they are, if they are overt or covert, how to examine them, and hopefully, how to find more freedom from feeling let down when our expectations aren't met. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Mom episode Clean episode Grief episode
01:05:54
August 29, 2021
97: So, You Want to Work in Treatment (Sort Of)
Many persons in recovery have a strong pull to help others find recovery. It's a very human experience to want to lead others to the same freedom you have found. However, we have watched many people struggle in this environment. Not to say that it isn't a good idea, but maybe there are some ways to do it that are better than others. We have on Basile to help us talk about what it's like to get into the treatment field. What are some of the drawbacks? Do people really think that their job is also their service? Do we need to keep our professional lives separate from our recovery, or is there a good way to unite them? How do we keep our egos in check once we think we have this all figured out? How can we deal with our recovery life bleeding into our work and vice versa? Do we need to go further away to meetings if we work in our area? How do we deal with people in a complete abstinence program who judge us for supporting other types of recovery at our job? We delve into all these questions and also learn about Elevate Recovery. Listen in and then reach out with your tips for how to navigate working in addiction treatment while also being in recovery. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Elevate Recovery website Elevate Recovery Facebook
01:01:57
August 22, 2021
96: What Does Being Clean Really Mean? (Sort Of)
We call ourselves clean. And most of us think we know exactly what that means. But what does it really mean when someone says they are clean? Are they clean like us? Are they cleaner? Less clean? When someone gets a keytag or medallion, do we really know what they are celebrating being free from? Is it complete abstinence from ALL drugs, including caffeine and nicotine? Have they never taken prescriptions that are mind or mood altering? Have they never received pain medication after a surgery? Do they take mind and mood altering medication from a psychiatrist? Why are caffeine and nicotine considered different and allowable? If someone has 22 years "clean," then has a motorcycle accident and is forced to take pain management for the rest of their lives, are they no longer clean? And if all of this idea of clean is debatable, why do we hold so strongly to the idea that suboxone isn't clean? Is suboxone used to treat addiction, or just heroin overuse? Wasn't the drug use just a symptom of the actual addiction that we are trying to treat? We debate all these questions and more. Listen in and then let us know what you think clean is and why. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.  Moving episode AA episode Information Pamphlet episode Nursing episode
01:20:45
August 15, 2021
95: The Mother of all Guilt - Why Moms Struggle to Hit Meetings (Sort Of)
Being a mom in recovery seems like a topic we need to talk about more. How often do we see moms, especially new moms, not at the meetings we used to see them at all the time? How hard is it to adjust to the new pressures and stresses of being a mom when one of the most valuable resources you had for dealing with stress and pressure was seeing your support network at the meeting? What about the unspoken societal and internal pressure to always be with your child and not take time for your own health? We have Stephanie and Jenny on to talk about what it's like for moms in recovery. How they found ways to adjust that helped them stay on the recovery path. What things might we be able to do to assist new moms in recovery when we encounter them. Listen in and then share your experience, thoughts and feelings about what might help mothers in recovery to keep recovering. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Grief episode
01:08:15
August 8, 2021
94: Tradition 8 - Narcotics Anonymous Should Remain Forever Nonprofessional, But Our Service Centers May Employ Special Workers (Sort Of)
Tradition Eight: Narcotics Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, but our service centers may employ special workers. We delve into the Eighth Tradition and what it means to NA. Or any 12 step program. What is the purpose of not having professionals? We identify the definition of professional in the context of the 8th Tradition, and also the definition of special worker. We talk about the reasoning we can allow special workers and how they differ from professionals. We also speak to a few instances that we know of where we don't seem to be following this tradition. Something as basic as getting flyers printed up. Special workers are supposed to operate within the traditions, and the printing companies that we use do not follow our traditions, they are outside entities. Then, to cap it off, Billy and Jason argue about recovery. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Cult Episode Recovery Dharma Episode
01:14:35
August 1, 2021
93: Financial Health in Recovery (Sort Of)
We are talking financial health. In recovery, we mention physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual health, but we never talk about financial health. Money and finances are a huge trigger for many people early in recovery. Also, many people in recovery have never been exposed to the idea of any healthy balance with their financial picture. It's an often overlooked aspect of recovery. We have Pete on to help us explore the topic of financial health. We look at creating a budget, what to do about some of the debt we might have when entering recovery, and the importance of starting some form of savings. We go further into investing, and prioritizing what financial aspect of our lives needs attention first. Listen in as we talk financial health and help yourself get your finances straight. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:07:21
July 25, 2021
92: AA Versus NA - Which Program is Better? (Sort Of)
This week we look at the battle between AA, Alcoholics Anonymous, and NA, Narcotics Anonymous. Which program is more helpful? We have on Louis to discuss the misconceptions that each program has of the other, and the truths behind those ideas. Is NA getting it wrong by taking so long to do the steps? Is AA not really getting to the heart of the matter by just talking the steps? Do people in AA only use alcohol? And why do people who use heroin go to Alcoholics Anonymous in the first place? Do alcoholics only do the steps once and then they are done? Do people in AA work on other aspects of their problem, the areas that our disease tends to move into when we remove the drugs or alcohol, like sex, gambling, shopping, etc. We dive deep into the rumors and hash out which program might be the best fit for you. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. The Robb Kelly episode
01:15:53
July 18, 2021
91: Tradition 7 - Every NA Group Ought to be Fully Self-supporting, Declining Outside Contributions (Sort Of)
The Seventh Tradition, every NA group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions. We look at all aspects of the 7th tradition. While most people focus on the money aspect, this is just one tiny part of what self-supporting means. We examine the ways self-supporting looks at the group level, how it might look at the personal level, and what it means for subcommittees. Tradition Seven tells us that we don't accept outside contributions or gifts, and we talk about why that is beyond just that someone might ask us for something in return that would hamper our ability to carry the NA message. This tradition warns us of having too much money, explains that we don't need a lot of money to have the basic group functions, and explains that money can cause more problems. Listen in to the talk about tradition 7 and give us your feedback as to what you've learned about this tradition. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Tradition 6 episode Top 80 Recovery Podcasts List
01:03:21
July 11, 2021
90: Recovery Cliches - Part 2 - The Newcomer is the Most Important Person (Sort Of)
We are back to talk about some more recovery clichés. We evaluate the truthfulness and usefulness of some of the things we often hear at meetings. Guest co-host Caraline helps explore: The newcomer is the most important person at any meeting It's a simple program for complicated people Learn to listen and listen to learn Meeting makers make it People who don't go to meetings don't hear about what happens to people who don't go to meetings You have to give it away to keep it Is the newcomer the most important person at the meeting? Are we complicated people? Do meeting makers only make meetings? Does giving it away assure us that we will keep it? What is it, anyway? We discuss these clichés in way too much detail. Listen in and reach out to us to weigh in with your opinion on these recovery clichés and their value to your recovery. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Cliches episode part 1 Discrimination episode with Sylvia Sponsorship episode Top 80 Recovery Podcasts List
01:09:52
July 4, 2021
89: Geographical Changes - Moving Into the Next Phase of Your Recovery (Sort Of)
We all know the old saying that geographical changes aren't cures for our addiction. But what happens when we move in our recovery? We have some clean time and recovery, feel pretty "established" in our area, are used to the meetings, the people, the way it all works. How hard is it to just do that somewhere new? Well, as it turns out, it's pretty damn tough. It's hard to be a newcomer in a new area when you have some time, recovery, and steps under your belt. Meetings in a new area feel alien. We miss the way it was in our original recovery area. We even miss that one guy who shared that same crap at every meeting we saw him at. Jim joins us to talk about the experience of moving in recovery. We discuss how to meet new people, how to get plugged in to a new area, how to find a new network, and how to use our old network to help us fill in the gaps. This episode might be more of a "what not to do" episode, but still useful in trying to find our way in our new locale. Listen in and reach out with any of your tips on how to keep recovery moving forward when everything in the new area feels "wrong." Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:07:34
June 27, 2021
88: Changing Sponsors - How and When to Make the Switch (Sort Of)
When is it the right time to get a new sponsor? Are there certain signs that let us know? Do we change whenever we hear something we don't like? Do we wait until well after the expiration date and let it die on it's own? We have on Jason to talk with us about figuring out when it's the right time to change sponsors and how to go about making the switch to a new sponsor. We explore if there are any reasons you have to get a new sponsor, or if it's all a choice. We also look at what you might be looking for in a new sponsor and if it's different than what we looked for in our original sponsors coming into recovery. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. 
01:18:01
June 20, 2021
87: If You Want to Get Sober, Get 'Robb'ed (Sort Of)
We have on Dr. Robb Kelley to talk about his research and thoughts on treatment of alcoholism. Dr. Robb fills us in on some of his personal history, when he remember his drinking starting, key moments of his drinking, and how he came to find freedom from alcohol use. Dr. Robb tells us about how he has used that experience to find his calling, and how he treats people who struggle with alcohol use. We discuss if there is any difference between alcoholics and addicts, what sorts of evidenced based treatments are out there, and why the solutions aren't more widespread. Listen in as Dr. Robb explores how the brain of alcoholics is affected by childhood trauma, and then check out his website and podcast links below. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Dr. Robb Kelly's website: https://robbkelly.com/ Dr. Robb Kelly's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-through-addiction/id1527640123
01:08:51
June 13, 2021
86: Tradition 6 - An NA Group Ought Never Endorse, Finance or Lend the NA name... (Sort Of)
The 6th Tradition: An NA group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the NA name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property or prestige divert us from our primary purpose. Tradition six deals with the problems that can go wrong when we decide to get involved by endorsing, financing or lending the name of the 12 step group to outside facilities or ventures. What happens is that money, property and prestige can divert us from our primary purpose. What does that mean? Well that's what we look at in the Sixth Tradition episode. We talk about ways this can go wrong if we were to do it. While the tradition seems self-explanatory, we look at the why's and how's it can all go wrong. We even mention the part where it talks about persons and literature from other fellowships being used in our meetings. This tradition can be a slippery slope. We do our best to understand how this tradition can apply to our personal lives, and the community at large. Listen in and learn about Tradition 6 and why it matters. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:05:22
June 6, 2021
85: Good Grief - Grieving in Recovery (Sort Of)
We all experience pain in recovery, but what does recovery teach us about grieving? Do 12 step programs/fellowships leave room for grief? Does the program tell us that we should bypass the stages of grief? Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance are the stages. Do 12 steps try to have us skip to the acceptance and not allow us the space to feel the other stages? We have Caraline on to talk about her experiences with grieving in recovery. Do we grieve missing our old using life? Are we allowed space to grieve losses of jobs? What is a helpful thing to say or do to someone who has just experience a loss? What is a harmful thing to say or do to someone going into a grief state? We talk about all this and more on the grief episode. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:18:18
May 30, 2021
84: After Praying, Zen We Meditate (Sort Of)
We take another look at meditating. We have on Dave(Ryūmon) , a novice Zen priest to talk all about meditation. We talk about all the intricacies of meditation and ask the questions about what really matters when it comes to meditating. Is posture important? Do you have to sit, or can you stand or be laying? Is it only about not moving, or are there movement meditations? What are we supposed to think about or concentrate on while meditating? Is there a certain amount of time we have to spend in meditation in order to benefit from it? What's the rule about farting in Zen meditation? Dave (Ryūmon) helps us explore all these questions and more. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Empty Circle Meditation website - http://emptycirclemeditation.com/ Soji Zen Center website - https://sojizencenter.com/
01:25:16
May 23, 2021
83: Pain Medicine - Just What the Addiction Ordered (Sort Of)
Pain medicine in recovery. A slippery slope. We talk about our experiences when having to take pain pills, as prescribed by a doctor, and how the body doesn't know the difference between these prescription medications and the drugs we bought on the street. We examine the ways medical professionals entice us to use pain medication by stating that it's a part of the healing process, and try to understand if there's any truth to that idea. We explore the attitudes of persons in 12 step fellowships towards people who end up having to use pain management, and whether that's a great way to treat our members. Pain medicine in recovery is a scary idea, even if it's the right thing to do in the situation. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:06:16
May 16, 2021
82: Tradition 5 - Each Group Has but One Primary Purpose - To Carry the Message to the Addict Who Still Suffers (Sort Of)
We are talking the 5th Tradition - each group has but one primary purpose, to carry the message to the addict who still suffers. Tradition Five says that the 12 step fellowship has one primary purpose. Does this leave room for secondary purposes? Can a 12 step program also have other goals or objectives? Why is it that we come to a program to get clean, but our primary purpose in the Fifth Tradition isn't to get and stay sober? Are we aware that our primary purpose is to carry the message? What is the message we carry? That an addict, any addict, can stop using, lose the desire to use, and find a new way to live. We examine how our groups can be proactive in carrying that message: by creating an environment of empathy, honesty, caring, sharing and service. Is one addict helping another truly without parallel? Is the group more powerful than the literature when it comes to carrying the message? What would happen if the group had a different purpose? We talk about all this and how we might be able to apply Tradition 5 in our lives outside the 12 step program. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:10:33
May 9, 2021
81: Y12SR Yoga of 12 Step Recovery - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We talk with Nikki Myers, the founder of Y12SR, to find out more about the program and how it works. Nikki shares her story about how she came to find yoga, what made her want to incorporate it into her program of recovery, and how studying the foundations of yoga led her to see the connection between yoga and the healing process of recovery. We find out answers to some of the questions you may have about the program: What does a Y12SR meeting look like and how does it run? Are there any requirements for membership? How does a yoga practice incorporate the 12 steps? Listen in as Nikki gives us all the information on how the Y12SR program works, what it can do for your recovery, and how to get involved. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Y12SR's Website: https://y12sr.com/
01:03:38
May 2, 2021
80: Local Government's Response to the Opioid Epidemic - Is it Enough (Sort Of)
Is local government doing enough to address the opioid epidemic? It can often seem like the local health department or government, especially in smaller, more rural areas, isn't doing enough. We talk with Cecil County Health Department's Deputy Director, Division of Addiction Services, Mike Massuli, to find out more about the services the county offers. We explore why certain services are picked to be implemented, why some might not be chosen, and the challenges faced in trying to establish programs to help the community. We explore using scientifically backed methods and what the health department sees as the definition of their role in addressing the opioid epidemic. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Here is the website for Rewrite Your Script Cecil Addiction Treatment Coordination Hotline (CATCH) phone line: 443-245-3257
01:08:45
April 25, 2021
79: Put Down the Spoon and Pick Up the Fruit - Eating for Recovery (Sort Of)
How do we eat for recovery? How do we make healthy choices around what we put into our bodies? We have all seen people leave the drugs behind but continue to consume chemicals in the form of food. We might be those people. What is your plan for eating in a way that promotes health to your body, mind and spirit? Recovery needs to involve our mental, physical, spiritual and emotional selves. Do we replace the drug with food? Are we eating to fill the void? Did you put down the spoon only to pick up the fork? Did you know that eating processed food is linked to increased mental health problems and decreased quality of life? Do you track your food intake at all? We aren't so much talking about counting calories, as making calories count. Do you read any of the labels on the food you eat? Do you know what's in what you take in? We discuss the idea that if we don't have a plan to end up in a particular destination, nutrition wise, we can end up any old place. And most of us don't want to be in any old place. Having a history of drug use puts us at greater risk for having an unhealthy relationship with food. Join us as we talk about general ideas of having a nutrition idea, monitoring what we take in, and try to eat for life. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:09:29
April 18, 2021
78: Recovery Café - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
Today we have on guests from Recovery Café, a recovery model gaining popularity for it's usefulness, and find out everything you could want to know about the program. Becky and Ethan join us from Clark County, Washington, to talk about all things Recovery Café. We find out what inspired them to join the Recovery Café movement, to have a huge part in bringing Recovery Café to their town, and how their program has grown. Becky and Ethan also answer all our questions about the Recovery Café program. We learn what Recovery Café has to offer, what to expect when you visit the café, how they help people gain access to needed resources in the recovery process, and so much more. This program welcomes all modalities of recovery under one roof. Our guests also tell us about the process of starting a Recovery Café in your own neighborhood, if you don't already have one. This program works so well as a hub for persons in recovery, and fills a much needed gap in the medical treatment model that just sends you home after 28 days. Listen in and find out if Recovery Café is right for you. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Here is the website for Recovery Café Clark County Here is the website for the Recovery Café Network
01:05:11
April 11, 2021
77: Tradition 4 - Each Group Should be Autonomous Except in Matters Affecting Other Groups or NA as a Whole (Sort Of)
We examine the 4th Tradition, Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or NA as a whole. What does the Fourth Tradition actually tell us? When does Tradition Four say we have crossed the line into what affects other groups or NA as a whole? Is there any clear lines drawn in the sand about what groups can and cannot do? We further explore the idea that some consider virtual meetings to not be actual groups because they do not have a meeting place. Is the internet a place? In the end, we come to an understanding that Tradition 4 is less about setting the rules for what groups can and can't do, but more about while groups are practicing their autonomy to self-govern, it's imperative that they remember the second part of the tradition, to maintain the focus of practicing principles to not make anyone else's life worse. This tradition is all about part two, to keep in mind how our actions can possibly harm others. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:06:44
April 4, 2021
76: Vigilante Nursing - Renegade Wound Care When the Medical System Fails (Sort Of)
When the medical system is set up to see as many people as possible, and attempts to combat the opioid epidemic by shaming anyone who uses substances, what options do we have to help those in the community? How about taking vigilante nursing to them? We talk with Jason B. to find out what exactly he does in his work. Jason fills us in on why he got into helping the substance use community, how he goes to their houses and provides education on how to take care of wounds, and advises people on if they need to visit the hospital or not. Jason uses care and compassion to help those in the area who have found care and compassion to be highly lacking in the medical community. Jason also informs us about best practices for preventing the need for wound care, how he has changed his mind about harm reduction, and how he believes the medical field needs to be built again from the ground up to actual meet it's original goals of helping people. Listen in and learn all about vigilante nursing and renegade wound care in our modern society. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:26:20
March 28, 2021
75: The Jokes on You - When is it Spiritually Okay to Make Fun of People (Sort Of)
When is it okay to make fun of people? In a spiritual program, when do we stop to consider what the line is and if we have crossed it? Can we make fun of people we are close to? Can we make fun of people who will never know about it, and therefore not be hurt by it? Are there certain topics that aren't okay to joke about? Is there a universal line about what is allowed to be laughed at and what isn't funny, or do we each draw our own line? If we have ever made fun of anyone, laughed at a joke about someone, or even watched a comedy show, can we claim the high ground when we think someone has crossed our personal line? We invite Chris B on to help us explore the rules around jokes. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:39:49
March 21, 2021
74: Tradition 3 - The Only Requirement for Membership is a Desire to Stop Using (Sort Of)
We examine tradition 3, the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using. What does this actually mean in the 12 step fellowship world? Are we becoming members of the program, or of the fellowship? What does this mean about how we treat people at our meetings? Is everyone truly welcome there? Are we also free to leave at any time we don't want to be there? How does this apply to the influx of persons on medication assisted treatment or harm reduction methods? Are they just as welcome? Do we have the right to ask them not to share if we consider them to have used that day? We address all these questions as we talk about the third tradition. We also talk about how this might look if we applied this tradition to the government level. How do the principles of tradition three carry over into our outside lives? Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:10:27
March 14, 2021
73: Coming out of the Basement - What it's Like to be Un-Anonymous (Sort Of)
We have Jenny on to talk about being non-anonymous. Jenny recently decided to tell the world of her substance use history, and the fact that she is in recovery. We talk about what led up to her making the decision to let her world know that she identifies as having struggled with alcohol, and as someone who no longer drinks. Jenny tells us about what made now the right time to make the decision to tell everyone. We also discuss some of the benefits and drawbacks of exposing this part of herself to the world. We also explore recommendations, as someone who just outed themselves, for the process of how to go about it, what things to consider first, and what implications it might have in your life. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Jenny has previously been on our episode about Recovery Dharma and a cohost on our episode about Adult Children of Alcoholics. We also talk about our Stigma episode. 
01:08:48
March 7, 2021
72: The Failure of Drug Policy to Win the War on Drugs (Sort Of)
We invite Carlos H onto the show to talk about his experiences with drug policy, advocacy, and activism in the Baltimore recovery community. Carlos has been deeply involved in policy work since he first found recovery. He has been involved in many organizations in Maryland, in different ways trying to improve the recovery scene to help save lives. Today we focus on the struggles with recovery housing, how grant funding seems to end up in the hands of for-profit treatment centers instead of non-profit community organizations, and how policy has failed to solve the problems in minority communities. Carlos also explores what it will take for change to happen in communities of color. Listen in as we celebrate all the work Carlos has done for the recovery community with Maryland Recovery Organization Connecting Communities, Light Street Housing Corporation, Citizens Planning and Housing Association, Maryland Chapter of National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence, Baltimore Substance Abuse Systems,  Maryland’s State Drug and Alcohol Council, and is currently working at Dee's Place. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:00:60
February 28, 2021
71: Looking at the War on Drugs Through the Racial Justice Lens (Sort Of)
We invite Kassandra Frederique, the Executive Director at Drug Policy Alliance and Tracie Gardner, Vice President of Policy Advocacy at Legal Action Center to help us explore the war on drugs through the lens of racial justice. We learn about the beginnings of drug policy, which started out punishing only the mode of opium use that was popular among Asian immigrants, the progression to the politics of Nixon changing his stance from one of therapeutic interventions to one of tough on crime during his run for presidency, the devastation the Rockefeller Drug Laws had on communities, and how the modern day war on drugs has seeped into every government system, as a form of controlling minorities. Kassandra and Tracie excellently explain how each governmental system has it's own version of the war on drugs, how professional health care has abandoned helping persons with mental health, and how the system continues to exclude people of color. The conversation further goes into how the systems that started out as discriminatory toward race, have further taken on discriminatory attitudes toward class, only leaving the wealthy in our society not impacted by it. In celebration of Black History Month, we acknowledge the impact these systems have had on the vulnerable minority population, and celebrate how amazing humans such as Kassandra and Tracie are leading the charge of policy reform to create a better landscape so that future generations won't have to be negatively impacted in the same ways and so we can create a safe and healing environment for all. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. To learn more about Drug Policy Alliance, go here: https://drugpolicy.org/ To learn more about Legal Action Center, go here: https://www.lac.org/
01:22:29
February 21, 2021
70: Tradition 2 - For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority (Sort Of)
Tradition 2: “For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority— a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern." We talk about the difference between group conscience and group opinion. We explore the idea that spiritual principles can never be in conflict. We mention that we have to pick the right person for the individual job, not just the person we like the most. We mention how egos and personalities can get in the way of group conscious, and our responsibility to the group to clear our ego out of the way before proceeding with a vote. We try to extend the principles and concepts of tradition 2 into the family, community, and government levels as to how it might look if we practiced it there. Further, we explore whether we would be better parents and partners if we led by example and with humility versus leading by dictating. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:07:06
February 14, 2021
69: The Sex Programs - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We explore Sexaholics Anonymous (SA), Sex Addicts Anonymous (SAA), and Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (SLAA) this week. We look at what each defines as acting out behavior, and what each program defines as sobriety or sexual clean time. We talk about SAA's 3 circles concept, and similarly, SLAA's idea of top and bottom lines. We give some descriptions of what sex or love addiction can look like in your life, to give you some new ways to examine your own life to see if you might qualify. Ritualistic masturbation, seeking comfort from emotionally unavailable partners, and other attention seeking behaviors often go unnoticed in our society or are made out to be normal behaviors. Finally, we answer some of the questions on SLAA's quiz to see if a person identifies with some of the behaviors and feelings of a sex and love addict. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. To take the SLAA quiz for yourself, go here: https://slaafws.org/40-questions To take the SAA quiz, go here: https://saa-recovery.org/am-i-a-sex-addict/self-assessment/
01:06:10
February 7, 2021
68: Tradition 1 - Our Common Welfare Should Come First; Personal Recovery Depends on NA Unity (Sort Of)
This year we are going to examine the traditions and how they apply to life inside and outside the 12 step program life. Sounds incredibly boring, for sure, but hopefully we can find connections and ways to make it interesting. We explore themes such as "does having a singular purpose in our program ensure unity?", "can you have unity without having a common goal?", "is unity a spiritual principle, or the outcome of working spiritual principles?" and "is there a time when it makes more sense to not act in unity?" How often have you thought about the goals or purpose of your family? Or your community? Or country? Amazing that we don't ever consider what the goal or purpose of our family is, much less what other members of our families think the goal or purpose is, and what goal or purpose actually unites us. Maybe this is why family units struggle to find unity, they are all working towards a different goal. Listen in and see if you agree with the idea of how unity works. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
55:16
January 31, 2021
67: Porn and Sex Addiction - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We talk with Joshua Shea from RecoveryPornAddict.com about porn addiction, sex addiction, and partner betrayal trauma. Joshua is a porn addiction and betrayal trauma services expert, in recovery himself, who helps persons struggling with addiction and their partners to find recovery. Joshua has written 3 books about porn addiction, and offers a wide variety of courses to help people become more knowledgeable about the often untalked about world of porn addiction. We talk with Joshua about his peer support services, how sex addiction is similar and different than drug addiction, the stigma surrounding porn addiction and pornography in general, signs to look for in your life that could mean you are having a problem with pornography, and what partners can do to help. Listen in to hear all these topics and more. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. To visit Joshua's website, go here: RecoveryPornAddict.com To find Joshua on Twitter, go here: https://twitter.com/PAddictRecovery
01:05:53
January 24, 2021
66: Is There Really a God? (Sort Of)
Is there a god? A higher power? If there is, does this god have a particular will? Is it a punishing god that harms us to teach us lessons? Or is it a hands off god that just shows up to comfort people when life happens due to free will? Or something else entirely? Are we all just being suckers? We started this episode just talking about things we hear in meetings that we don't believe, and ended up having a big debate about our stances on higher power and what that means in our lives. Billy is not a believer in god, per se, as in the magic man in the sky. Jason believes in a universal energy (think Starbucks chick, but cooler). We debate the existence of a higher power and how that works in our lives. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:03:51
January 17, 2021
65: Children's Mental Health - What Do We Do For Our Struggling Kids? (Sort Of)
We have Stephanie on to talk about the mental health of our children. Mental health is generational, and also involves epigenetics. Many of the issues in our personal childhood homes get carried over into our adult families, leading to our kids getting a lot of the same inputs we had. This can happen during our using or even after finding recovery, before we learn healthier ways to parent. Even if we get everything right, there is still the danger of our children struggling with their mental health. What do we do about it? We explore how to recognize, how to help the best we can, some resources, and mostly how to take care of ourselves while trying to help our children, since we will be of little use to them if we can't find our center. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 800-273-8255 Screening tool for parents: https://screening.mhanational.org/screening-tools/parent
01:14:09
January 10, 2021
64: Revisiting Rona - How Has Quarantine Affected Recovery? (Sort Of)
We take a look at how months of quarantine, pandemic, coronavirus, Covid-19 has taken it's toll on our recoveries. What we miss from before, how we feel about our current practices, guilt about not feeling as attached to our 12 step programs, what we have done in place of meetings to fill our lives. We look at the 4 legged table concept and how even without meetings, 3 legs of the table can be pretty sturdy. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.
01:03:42
January 3, 2021
63: The Pot of Recovery at the End of the LGBTQ Rainbow (Sort Of)
We have Matt on the show to talk about recovery and how it relates to the intersection of the community of LGBTQ persons. We explore what little is being done research wise to determine if this population needs something specific in their recovery programs, what risk factors are greater for the LGBTQ population, the statistics around being LGBTQ and what that means for your chance at substance use disorder, and much more. Thank you to Jenny for the suggestion of the topic and Matt for coming on the show.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. To check out Matt's blog: https://miserycontest.com/ To find Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SobrietyMatt To check out our episode on specialty meetings: https://recoverysortof.com/24-special-interest-meetings-versus-the-traditions-should-you-go-to-that-womens-rap-sort-of/
01:03:13
December 27, 2020
62: Is Your Ego In Check? (Sort Of)
Today we talk all about the ego. Often referred to as "Easing God Out," we examine if the goal is to completely rid ourselves of ego, or to pursue a healthy ego. We take an ego test, and look at suggestions for limiting ego, or gaining a healthy ego. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com. Ego Test: https://www.amexessentials.com/cell-phone-addiction-quiz/
01:01:15
December 20, 2020
61: Step Twelve: Having Had a Spiritual Awakening as a Result of These Steps, We Tried to Carry This Message to Addicts, and to Practice These Principles in All Our Affairs (Sort Of)
Step 12, the 12th step, Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. We talk about what it means for your spirit to be awakened, how the evidence exists for this happening, ways in which we carry the message, and how to practice these principles, and this step, outside of the 12 step fellowship world. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:05:25
December 13, 2020
60: The State of Addiction Treatment - What We Need To Do Differently (Sort Of)
This week we talk with Jessica Hulsey, the founder of Addiction Policy Forum, a group dedicated to the fight to end stigma, help patients and families in crisis and translate the science around addiction.  We talk with Jessica about research surrounding prevention of substance use disorder, why it's important to not only recognize addiction as a disease, but also incorporate it into our healthcare treatment, and what we need to do differently to assist family and friends when we see them struggling.  This is a great episode for people who struggle with addiction, for friends and family of those who struggle, and for anyone with children who want to prevent substance use disorder. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram. Go here to learn more about Addiction Policy Forum: https://www.addictionpolicy.org/ Go here to subscribe to Addiction Policy Forum's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfmklxbMw2jZt_7h07ejmw To call for help: (833) 301-HELP
01:14:54
December 6, 2020
59: Are You As Open-Minded As You Think You Are? (Sort Of)
You're open-minded, right? But are you really open-minded? 95% of people think they are more open-minded than average, which means that a lot of us overestimate our open-mindedness.  Did you know that being open-minded is actually being receptive to arguments? Or that most close-minded people are closed to the idea that they might be close-minded, and just assume that everyone that disagrees with them is the close-minded one? Listen in and take the open-mindedness quiz to see how you rate on your open-mindedness. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:00:55
November 29, 2020
58: Smart Phone and Internet Addiction (Sort Of)
On this episode we explore the world of smart phone and internet addiction. What is it? What are some of the signs that you may be suffering from it? Why are smart phones so addictive? What are some things you can do to minimize the disturbance that smart phones cause in your life? Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:04:16
November 22, 2020
57: Relationships - To Date Others in Recovery or Not? (Sort Of)
Is it wise to date other people in recovery? While they are on the same journey as us, we also run the risk of losing everything if they relapse. Do we even consider these factors when getting into a relationship? When deciding to get married? When choosing to have children? How do you know, once they have relapsed, whether to support them or protect yourself? We talk to Stacey about all these questions and more in this episode. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
55:01
November 15, 2020
56: Adverse Childhood Experiences - Knowing when to hold your ACEs and when to fold 'em (Sort Of)
What are Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs)? We talk about where the research started, what it means, and how it is informing the treatment of mental health and addiction. We take the ACEs test to see if we can ace it and talk about our experiences with childhood trauma. For more info on ACEs and to take the test for yourself, go to https://acestoohigh.com/. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:10:27
November 8, 2020
55: Step Eleven - Sought Through Prayer and Meditation To Improve Our Conscious Contact With God As We Understood Him, Praying Only For Knowledge Of His Will For Us and the Power To Carry That Out
Step 11, the 11th Step, where we seek to increase our relationship with our higher power. We also stop trying to attain certain outcomes in our life. Further, we ask for guidance to do our higher power's will, not ours. We talk about what this looks like in someone's daily life, how they can apply the meaning of this step to further their peace and serenity. What is god's will for us? How do we pray? We talk about all of these and more. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:21:58
November 1, 2020
54: Narcan and The Right To Breath (Sort Of)
What is Narcan? Or Naloxone? How does it work? Is it effective in treating overdose? Is the only reason to provide Narcan ethical? Should Narcan be free? What about the argument that insulin isn't free? We delve into many of these questions and with the help of Erin, we explore how Narcan and insulin are different, along with all the reasons we need to distribute Narcan to as many people as possible. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
56:10
October 25, 2020
53: What Is Relapse and What Can We Do About It? (Sort Of)
What is a relapse? What does it take to avoid relapse? Can we really stop people from relapsing? What can we do after a relapse? Are the 12 step programs too soft on relapse? Too hard? We take on these questions and more in our conversation about relapse. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:10:11
October 18, 2020
52: Adult Children of Alcoholics - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
Ever wondered what the Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families (ACA, ACoA) program is all about? We invite Sarah to tell us all about the ACA program. How it works, what they consider to be the problem, who qualifies to work the program, how the program addresses the problem. While not a substitute for addiction recovery, per se, ACA might be a wonderful complement to explore the roots of recovery and stop the generational passage of addiction. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:00:41
October 11, 2020
51: Step Ten - Continued to Take Personal Inventory and When We Were Wrong Promptly Admitted It (Sort Of)
Step 10 conversation that gets to the reasoning for doing the 10th Step. Why do we continue to look at ourselves, actions, emotions and attitudes regularly? How do we take this look? What types of things do we look at? What is the purpose of the Tenth Step? Do we keep working the steps again if we have Step 10 to keep us in check? We talk about all these topics and more. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:02:29
October 4, 2020
50: Celebrate Recovery - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We have Josh from the Unashamed Recovery Podcast on to tell us about the Celebrate Recovery program. We talk about how the program works, any differences that might exist from the typical 12 step model, and who the program might work well for. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.  To check out the Unashamed Recovery Podcast, go here: https://anchor.fm/unashamedrecovery
01:00:53
September 27, 2020
49: What Is The Program Really Saying In Its New Informational Pamphlet About Mental Health (Sort Of)
IP 30: Mental Health in Recovery seems to be a controversial informational pamphlet. We explore what it really says in this pamphlet and what implications is has for the program. Does it really say that we can be prescribed MATs and still be clean? Skip to around 30 minutes if that is all you want to hear about. Before that we explore some comments about our last 2 episodes and the presidential candidates stances on drug policy. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:05:12
September 20, 2020
48: The Disease Doesn't Discriminate, But Does Recovery? (Sort Of)
Racism, discrimination and oppression are a part of our world.  Since recovery is a subset of the same people that are in our world, it makes sense to conclude that these unfortunate truths are also a part of recovery.  What does it look like in action in our community?  What barriers face minority groups in getting to and finding recovery?  Our guest Sylvia helps us explore the world of recovery through the minority experience lens, hoping to open the discussion about recovery and how we can help be more inclusive to minority members.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:20:51
September 13, 2020
47: Step Nine - Made Direct Amends to Such People Wherever Possible, Except When to Do So Would Injure Them or Others (Sort Of)
We talk step 9 and everything we know about the amends process.  The 9th step involves lots of creative thinking about how to repair the harm we have done in the world.  We look at the 3 R's of amends: restoration, restitution, and resolution.  These are the goals of amends, to try to make whole again what we have had a hand in harming.  Also, the continued amends of living differently because we don't like the person we were when we harmed people.   We explore what is the sponsor's responsibility or influence in this process.   Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:27:23
September 6, 2020
46: How to Avoid Dangerous Situations That Can Lead to Relapse (Sort Of)
What kind of dangerous situations are there in recovery?  Do we just need to avoid people, places and things associated with our using?  Do we just need to change that one thing, everything, in order to not go back to using?  Do we need to avoid isolation, recognize our feelings, and stay connected to our self-care?  What is it that helps us avoid situations where we might be tempted to use?  We talk with Kierston about her experiences with avoiding dangerous situations.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:06:45
August 30, 2020
45: The Many Freedoms We Are Not Promised (Sort Of)
One promise, many freedoms.  The 12 promises.  Recovery programs have different ideas of what else is offered beyond freedom from active addiction, or using.  But what are those freedoms?  Are we really free when we live a life of recovery?  What does freedom even mean?  We explore what freedom is and if we are truly free in our life of recovery.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:07:25
August 23, 2020
44: The Pain of Addiction Doesn't End (Sort Of)
Addiction is full of pain for everyone.  The suffering is great, and doesn't end when someone transitions.  The pain carries on to the next generation in a cycle.  Our systems are currently not equipped to deal with this problem.  What do you do when the loss hits close to someone you care about?  How do you help them?  How do you console them?  How do you try to break the cycle of addiction?  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram. Voices of Hope Rubber Ducky Race
01:25:53
August 16, 2020
43: Honesty, Is It Really The Best Policy (Sort Of)
We talk about honesty and how we may not be applying it in ALL of our lives.  Maybe we are willing to lie to institutions.  Maybe we are willing to tell small lies.  Maybe we will lie when it doesn't harm anyone else.  Maybe we will lie to save others from harm.  Maybe we are dishonest by omission.  Is it possible to be honest without there being harm done?  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:08:22
August 10, 2020
42: Step Eight - Made a List of All Persons We Had Harmed and Became Willing to Make Amends to Them All (Sort Of)
Step 8 Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all (Sort Of).  We talk about the 8th step in this episode, and attempt to see if there is more to it than just making a list of people.  We look at how to become willing.  We look at our actions and decide we are not okay with how we acted towards or treated others.  We use this humility to assist with changing our defects from the previous step.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:19:45
August 2, 2020
41: Spiritual Not Religious - What is Spirituality? (Sort Of)
Spiritual not religious.  We say it all the time, but what really is spirituality?  Just a belief in a higher power?  Living in tune with the universe?  We attempt to define what we mean when we say we are pursuing a spiritual lifestyle.  Moving away from the physical or material things.  Pertaining to things affecting the human spirit or soul.  Moving from self-centered to selfless.  Moving from fear to love.  Where am I finding my contentment?  These are all things to think about when we try to think about spirituality.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:15:43
July 26, 2020
40: Smart Recovery - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We learn about Smart Recovery from Daniel.  He helps us to understand what it looks like to work the program of Smart Recovery, what it might be like attending a meeting, if there are dues, what qualifications you need to meet in order to be eligible to be a member, and many more questions you might have about the program.  We also take a quick dive into Vancouver's progressive harm reduction methods and a short recap of the sponsorship episode.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram. For more information about Smart Recovery, or to find a meeting, go here: https://www.smartrecovery.org/ For Daniel's Facebook about Hope, Recovery, Advocacy and Drug Policy: https://www.facebook.com/DGASnyder/ For Daniel's Twitter: https://twitter.com/danielsnyder1
01:51:60
July 19, 2020
39: Sponsorship - What Is It, Why Do We Need It, and How Does It Work? (Sort Of)
What is sponsorship in a 12 step program?  Why do we need someone to sponsor us?  How does one find a sponsor?  How does one be a sponsor?  What rules govern sponsorship?  What does program literature say about sponsorship?  We address some of the basics of sponsorship in this episode.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:41:35
July 12, 2020
38: Step Seven - Humbly Asked Him to Remove Our Shortcomings (Sort Of)
We talk about Step 7, Humbly asked him to remove our shortcomings, how we apply it in our lives, how we work the 7th step, how it might apply to someone not in a 12 step program.   We use some of the literature to point out what has worked for us and what hasn't.  We focus on the spiritual principle of humility, self-compassion, being who you are on purpose, and receiving criticism.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:37:20
July 5, 2020
37: Marriage IN or OUT of Recovery - For Better or Worse? (Sort Of)
Should you marry another person in recovery?  Or someone outside the recovery fellowships? Very much a part 2 to our relationships episode, we take on what it's been like being married to persons inside or outside our recovery fellowship/lifestyle.  Does it seem more beneficial one way over the other?  Is it easier to hit meetings with your partner, or harder because one of you has to be home with the kids? What about your partner drinking? We share some of our experiences and perceptions about the subject.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:45:14
June 28, 2020
36: All Paths Recovery - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
All Paths Recovery includes MAT, Medical Cannabis, and any other path toward recovery you might be on.  We have Matt on to tell us about the meeting and how he sees a need in the community that he is trying to help meet by striving to make recovery available to all.  We find out more about what that looks like right now, if there are any guidelines, and how this program is working in the community.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:25:25
June 21, 2020
35: We Were Entirely Ready to Talk About Step 6 Some More (Sort Of)
One is never enough! We enjoyed the comments about our Step 6 episode on social media so much that we had to recognize and talk about them.  So we continue the discussion on the 6th Step about becoming entirely to have our defects of character removed.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:21:39
June 15, 2020
34: Step Six - Were Entirely Ready to Have God Remove All These Defects of Character (Sort Of)
Step 6.  Were entirely ready to have god remove all these defects of character.  We discuss aspects of becoming entirely ready, share our experience with working the step, and talk about the practical ways this presents itself in our daily lives.  We attempt to explain what step 6 would look like for someone who is not in recovery.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:39:37
June 7, 2020
33: Recovery Cliches and Sayings - Part 1 (Sort Of)
Cliches in 12 step programs seem to make people love them or hate them.  Some complain that they are too often said, and oversimplify the situation.  Others feel that cliches are simple reminders of important concepts.  We start to examine cliches and sayings of the programs, deciding whether they hold value or not.  We look at "first things first," "let go and let god," "one day at a time," "life on life's terms," and more.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
01:50:01
May 31, 2020
32: Recovery Dharma - Everything You Wanted to Know (Sort Of)
We have Jenny on the show to tell us about the program of Recovery Dharma.  We ask questions to better understand what the Recovery Dharma program is, and how it could help someone on their journey in recovery.  We ask what Recovery Dharma is, how they define addiction, how they treat addiction, and what the program can do for you. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/. To learn more about Recovery Dharma, visit their website: https://recoverydharma.org/
01:13:40
May 24, 2020
31: We Are What We Put Into Us and The Shopping Cart Problem (Sort Of)
So some people put the shopping cart back into it's return location, and some people leave it wherever they are when they are done with it.  What makes these two people different?  If we are what we put into us, why are so many of us only putting one side of information into us?  How do we use the knowledge of us being what we put into us to our advantage? We also loosely address claiming greatness for things that come naturally, parenting, governmental responsibility, people's rights, and goldilocks thinking.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:56:04
May 17, 2020
30: How to Reopen Meetings and What's the Responsibility of the Experienced Member? (Sort Of)
Quarantine is slowly starting to begin it's ending.  Areas are starting to open up again.  When is the right time to reopen face to face meetings in your area?  How should you reopen meetings?  Are there changes to the meetings that need to go into effect?  What is the responsibility for the experienced member in this process, and in home groups in general?  We tackle these questions in a mother's day edition that involves Billy's wife, Jen.  Also some recap on Step 5.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:35:35
May 10, 2020
29: Step Five - Admitted to God, to Ourselves, and to Another Human Being the Exact Nature of Our Wrongs (Sort Of)
If you want to skip to Step 5 go to around the 45 minute mark.  We discuss what exactly is the "exact nature of our wrongs."  From there, we talk about character defects, the reasons we did the things we did in addiction, and what's behind the patterns of our acting out.  We discuss the importance of admitting our wrongs to 3 distinct entities.  We further explore if all actions come from either love or fear.  Also some recap from last week and some conversation about breaking quarantine.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:33:01
May 3, 2020
28: How Would You Like Your Corona, Rare or Well-done? (Sort Of)
In this episode we talk about how the current quarantine is affecting our recoveries, and by proxy, our lives.  Are we finding more time to put into our recovery efforts, disconnection from humanity, or something in between?  We also answer some questions a non-12 step member has about 12 step programs and recap last week's episode.    Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:32:06
April 26, 2020
27: Clarifying the Clarity Statement: Are You an Addict and Alcoholic? (Sort Of)
Narcotics Anonymous has a clarity statement that asks people not to identify as "addicts and alcoholics" and believes to mention being "clean and sober" could cause confusion and blur the message of the NA program.  Does language matter?  Is one way of referring to yourself truly harmful?  We explore how much this matters, if people from one program can share in another program, and debate if the clarity statement should be read in the beginning of meetings.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:44:42
April 19, 2020
26: Attraction, Promotion or Advertisement: What's Acceptable when Promoting an Online Meeting? (Sort Of)
People have taken to using people's full names, tagging them in posts, and much more in the new online meeting world.  We discuss what might be acceptable and what might violate traditions, specifically the 11th tradition.  The online meeting world is a lawless land where the rules are etched in beach sand, at best.  We also go over some of the funniest things people have seen in online meetings so far.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:29:47
April 12, 2020
25: Step Four - Made a Searching and Fearless Moral Inventory of Ourselves (Sort Of)
We explore the fourth step in most 12 step programs.  What does it mean to make a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves?  Why moral?  Whose morals are we following?  Whose morals do we need to follow?  Are we supposed to be free of fear?  How do we deal with the guilt and shame?  Who do we share our 4th step with?  We talk about some of the mysteries of Step 4 and put to rest some of the confusion and contradiction in our understanding of the 4th step.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:21:07
April 6, 2020
24: Special Interest Meetings Versus the Traditions - Should You Go to That Women's Rap? (Sort Of)
Ever had a feeling that men's raps violate the 3rd tradition, which states the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using?  Ever found a special interest meeting to be extremely valuable to your recovery?  Ever considered that by allowing LGBTQ meetings to exist, we might also be paving the way for hate groups to have a meeting of "special interest?"  Ever felt unwelcome at a meeting?  Did you know that some 12 step programs have an official stance on the topic (Sort Of)?  Very good discussion about the pros and cons of special interest meetings.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:33:49
March 29, 2020
23: Censorship in Recovery: What is Our Responsibility During the Quarantine? (Sort Of)
We explore how some Facebook recovery groups are not allowing people to post face to face meetings currently.  Including a Twitter and Facebook poll on how strictly people are adhering to the quarantine/ social distancing guidelines.  How much responsibility do we need to take to help society, and in which direction?  Why do we only seem to want half the news that matches what we believe and not want to hear anything contrary?  How can we better practice spiritual principles in our social networking?  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:28:30
March 22, 2020
22: CoroNAvirus and Recovery - The Ultimate Survival Guide For Continuing Recovery During Strange Times (Sort Of)
We talk about the current pandemic that has affected the global community and how it pertains to our daily recovery.  Starting with some basic facts and background about Covid-19 for anyone who does not keep up with the information.  Then we delve into how this is affecting the recovery community.  Finally, we take a look at possible tools to use to help maintain recovery in the face of unprecedented experiences.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.  For more information about Covid-19 facts and up to date statistics, check the following: https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
01:33:60
March 15, 2020
21: Applying Spiritual Principles Right and Can We Help People Avoid Relapse? (Sort Of)
We discuss a situation where parents argue over whether or not there is a principle in the lesson they are teaching their child.  The discussion then turns to if it's possible to be each other's eyes and ears to help people avoid relapsing.  Thrown in is whether or not we can help someone find fun without using, when they don't understand it.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:03:47
March 8, 2020
20: Step Three - We Made a Decision To Turn Our Will and Our Lives Over to the Care of God As We Understood Him (Sort Of)
We talk about step 3.  Breaking down the ideas of "making a decision" and "turning over our will and our lives to the care of god" for someone who might have never heard of recovery or addiction.  Helping someone who might not understand the process of the 12 steps to possibly relate it to how they could use it in their life.  We include some 3rd step takes from social media, and conclude with our personal takes on step 3.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:13:42
March 1, 2020
19: What Is Addiction and Where Does It Come From (Sort Of)
We talk about the origin story of addiction.  What is addiction?  Is it just a biological miscalculation of brain chemical production, or is it a spiritual dilemma? Do you have a choice in addiction?  Has it always been here or is it something that has come about during our evolution?  We also start off with a recap of anonymity from last episode.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:24:42
February 23, 2020
18: Anonymity, Self-Disclosure, and How to Break the Stigma (Sort Of)
We explore the question "Is remaining anonymous in our daily lives allowing people to continue to judge other addicts or persons in recovery?"  Sure, we have the spiritual principles of anonymity and being anonymous, but when I stay anonymous because I'm scared someone will judge me or keep me from getting a certain job, am I also saying with action that "it's okay to not let persons in recovery at this job."?  We also recap some other input into Step 2 and talk about some milestones we just hit.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:30:36
February 16, 2020
17: Step Two - We Came to Believe That a Power Greater Than Ourselves Could Restore Us to Sanity (Sort Of)
We invite our first guest co host, Steve, on to talk about step 2.  We break down the concepts of "power greater than" and "restoration to sanity" for the newer member, or someone who has no experience with 12 step programs.  We speak about the process of coming to believe, what sanity might be, the principle of openmindedness and the principle of hope.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/.
01:11:54
February 9, 2020
16: How to Give God to Your Children Without Religion (Sort Of)
When you don't practice a religion but you do believe in god, or you don't believe in god but you do believe in spiritual principles or just being a good person, how do you pass that on to your kids?  We start with recapping some info from last week's relationship episode.  Then the discussion turns to this week's topic: How do you give a sense of god to your kids when you are spiritual, but not religious?  We share some information that we learned from our experience, from what we learned from talking to others, and from what we learned from talking to our children.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/
01:21:29
February 2, 2020
15: Romantic Relationships in Recovery (Sort Of) Part 1
Two guys talking about relationships, mostly of the romantic type.  We address the idea of staying out of relationships for a year in early recovery.  We also look at what a healthy relationship might be.  We look at what it takes to maintain a relationship along with awareness of motivation for wanting a relationship.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/
01:29:26
January 26, 2020
14: Propaganda, Narcan Parties, and Big Alcohol (Sort Of)
Talking about propaganda that gets used in addiction and recovery conversations.  We explain the idea of a Narcan Party and dissect the theory that they exist, while giving a slightly educated view on harm reduction. Lastly we examine how well the alcohol industry has done to convince us all that that alcohol is just a little different than the rest of the drugs.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com,  find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RecoverySortOf or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/recovery_sort_of/
56:10
January 19, 2020
13: Depression (Sort Of)
We talk about depression, how it feels to be depressed, what to do if a loved one is experiencing depression and other mental health related suggestions.  We mention some genetics as it relates to addiction, establishing new friendships later in life/recovery, and the idea that people enter our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:14:36
January 12, 2020
12: Step One - We Admitted That We Were Powerless Over Our Addiction, That Our Lives Had Become Unmanageable (Sort Of)
We are talking Step 1 and all that goes with it, honesty, powerlessness, surrender, acceptance, unmanageability, and more. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:30:07
January 5, 2020
11: Death by Overdose (Sort Of)
We're talking overdose, harm reduction, lost friends, how to solve addiction and more, as well as a couple tips on how to stay in recovery during the New Year's celebration.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:29:06
December 29, 2019
10: Christmas (Sort Of)
Christmas! Jingle Bells! Noel! We sort of talk about the season.  There's conversation about the blessings of enjoying Christmas.  We also look at if we do Christmas because we like it, or because there is shame in not doing what society is doing.  Finally we look at some tips for getting through the holidays with your recovery intact.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:29:27
December 22, 2019
9: Helping (Sort Of)
Is there a difference between "helping" time and time "off" from helping?  What is it like to experience unforgiveness?  Is compassion easier to express to strangers online the same way anger and frustration are?  The difficulty in taking a compliment.  The debate of the 12 steps working functionally or miraculously.  Would we ever leave the fellowship?  Should we celebrate anniversaries or is that rewarding what we already "should" have been doing?  Throw in come CBT and classical conditioning, along with our new segment, "How to change the world," and you've got good times.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:38:53
December 15, 2019
8: Stigma (Sort Of)
We're talking stigma, your word choices making a difference, using dreams, and I think we even mention football analogies.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf. 
59:40
December 8, 2019
7: Anxiety (Sort Of)
We talk about anxiety, quitting vaping, and dying...mostly.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:00:05
December 1, 2019
6: Money (Sort Of)
Today we talk about  Christmas shopping, consumerism (sort of) and money, and how all of the pressures of money in our lives can divert us from whatever our primary purpose might be.  Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter: @RecoverySortOf.
01:20:46
November 24, 2019
5: Work (Sort Of)
This episode delves into some topics related to recovery and work situations.  We talk about getting caught doing something wrong at work, having to be involved in the termination of an employee, and general work application of spiritual principles.  If you have a topic you'd like to hear discussed, or want to add your opinion, leave a message, email us at recoverysortof@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter: @recoverysortof. opaxsLdU9zrmfDMnw6HO
01:10:53
November 17, 2019
4: Parenting (Sort Of)
Today we talk about parenting in recovery, with some conversation about relationships, gratitude and feelings.  As always, feel free to join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at Recoverysortof@gmail. com, and now you can also find us on twitter: @recoverysortof
01:21:14
November 10, 2019
3: Religious Cult (Sort Of)
In this episode we talk about whether 12 step fellowships are religions, cults, both, or neither.  Join the conversation by leaving a message on Anchor or emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com. 
59:41
November 4, 2019
2: Meetings Suck (Sort Of)
We explore the reasons we think that meetings can suck at times and the goods and bad of what goes on in meetings.  We look at sharing early in recovery, being on your phone in meetings, chants, and bringing kids to meetings.
01:16:40
October 28, 2019
1: Meditation (Sort Of)
First episode where we talk about meditation and how that relates to recovery, life and well-being. Join the conversation by leaving a message on Anchor or emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com.
01:20:33
October 21, 2019