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Regulated & Relational

Regulated & Relational

By Attachment & Trauma Network, Inc.

Join Julie Beem & Ginger Healy as we explore the trauma-informed, attachment-focused concepts of Regulation (self-regulation/co-regulation) and Relationship (building connection) and how we can help children build resilience and emotional health through the ways in which we parent, teach and care for children. This podcast is produced by the Attachment & Trauma Network, or ATN, a leading national non-profit supporting children impacted by trauma through their families, schools and communities.
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Ep 67 - A Conversation about Trauma-Informed Care with National PTA President, Yvonne Johnson

Regulated & RelationalFeb 06, 2024

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Ep 67 - A Conversation about Trauma-Informed Care with National PTA President, Yvonne Johnson

Ep 67 - A Conversation about Trauma-Informed Care with National PTA President, Yvonne Johnson

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Yvonne Johnson into the studio. Yvonne is the 58th president of the National PTA. She is committed to being intentional about creating more inclusion and diversity in schools, and she focuses on strengthening family and school partnerships. Yvonne has been involved in the PTA for over 30 years!

The PTA’s mission is “Making sure that every child reaches their full potential by engaging and empowering families and communities to advocate for all children.” Yvonne says that she serves as the voice for families around all education issues.

Listen in to learn what led Yvonne to be so passionate about trauma-informed education and learn more about the PTA’s current initiatives. These initiatives include federal, state, and local policies that keep our students healthy, supported and safe. A safe school is a priority for the National PTA.

ATN is so honored to be mission aligned with the National PTA.

If you want to learn more about the initiatives that were mentioned, go to:

https://www.pta.org/home/advocacy/ptas-positions/Individual-Position-Statements/Position-Statement-Trauma-Informed-Care

https://www.pta.org/home/events/National-PTA-Legislative-Conference

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1426?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22The+RISE+Act%22%7D&s=1&r=3

Feb 06, 202433:50
Ep 66 - Addressing Working Memory in a Trauma-Sensitive Classroom

Ep 66 - Addressing Working Memory in a Trauma-Sensitive Classroom

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Jen Alexander and Jennifer Dickey into the studio. They have come to talk about executive function skills and working memory. You may recognize Jen Alexander, as she has been in the studio several times. She is an educator, national certified counselor, school based registered play therapist and a leader in the movement to build trauma-sensitive schools. Jen is the author of Building Trauma-Sensitive Schools: Your Guide to Creating Safe, Supportive Learning Environments for All Students.

Jennifer Dickey’s passion is in designing academic and effective support for divergent learners. She is the founder of Lotus Cognitive Solutions Groups, which provides coaching for children and adults with ADHD and Dyslexia. She is a classroom teacher, a gifted and talented specialist, an academic language specialist, and a full-time college professor.

Together, they have developed a new guide to help educators, entitled Supporting Students’ Executive Function Skill in the Trauma-Sensitive Classroom: Focusing in on working memory. The guide has 8 colorful panels with practical advice broken into bite sized chunks. It explains how to recognize working memories challenges and how to shift your paradigm from “Why aren’t you doing your work?” to “What is difficult about this work?”

Listen in to learn exactly what working memory is and why it is critical to school success.


Jan 23, 202437:56
Ep 65 - The Self-Reg Framework

Ep 65 - The Self-Reg Framework

Today, Julie and Ginger invite Dr. Susan Hopkins into the studio. Dr. Hopkins, along with Dr. Stuart Shanker, will be keynoting at ATN’s 7th Annual Creating Trauma-Sensitive Schools Conference in February 2024. Dr. Shaker is the MEHRIT Centre and Self-Reg Founder, and Dr. Hopkins is the Executive Director of the Self-Reg organization. Together they have authored several books. They are a powerful team! To learn more, go to www.self-reg.ca.

Dr. Hopkins has over 20 years of experience in all levels of education, including roles as teacher, vice-principal, curriculum developer, and inclusion coordinator. Oh, and she is a mom. All of this experience has made her well-equipped to show us the need to be self-regulated.

In this episode, Dr. Hopkins tells us exactly what Self-Reg is about, and she explains how it is anchored in understanding the brain-body science of stress. We all understand the meaning of self-regulation, but the Self-Reg Framework consists of 5 steps to deal with stress so that we can experience calm in our minds and bodies. At the MEHRIT Centre, people who care for and work with children and youth are taught the skills needed to better support dysregulated kids.

Listen in as Dr. Hopkins reviews the five steps of this framework and gives examples of how to implement each one. You don’t want to miss this! And, you don’t want to miss hearing Drs. Shanker and Hopkins speak at our upcoming conference. For more information, go to www.attachmenttraumanetwork.org/conference.



Jan 09, 202435:46
Ep 64 - This Year's Retrospective

Ep 64 - This Year's Retrospective

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Lorraine Schneider into the studio to chat about the episodes from season 3 and there were some really great ones! Lorraine is a member of the ATN hard-working staff and one of her responsibilities is to edit the podcasts. As a result, she has listened to every one of them!

As Lorraine says, “Yes, I have listened to each podcast and every one has great nuggets to take from it and apply to life each day.”

Julie follows that up with, “You can’t go wrong with any of our episodes, we hate to brag, but….”

Listen in as Julie, Ginger and Lorraine chat about the episodes that left an impression on them and why. We hope that you have a few extra moments to listen to some of our favorites during this holiday season. It’s a great time to catch up!


Dec 26, 202336:07
Ep 63 - The Biology of Attachment Trauma
Dec 12, 202340:09
Ep 62 - What Does It Mean To Be Trauma-Informed?

Ep 62 - What Does It Mean To Be Trauma-Informed?

In this episode, Julie and Ginger delve into the definitions of trauma-informed. While this seems very simple, there are many definitions floating out there and we wanted to clarify exactly what ATN uses in its definitions. When ATN was created, there was no true concept of trauma and its effects on our children.  Thankfully, the trauma-informed movement has gained momentum throughout the last decade and half.  As a result, we see a lot of people throwing around the word “trauma” when they really mean something else.

So, at ATN, we researched many resources to develop our definitions. In this episode, we first define trauma-aware. The next level is trauma-informed. Then comes along trauma-sensitive. The final step in the process is being trauma-responsive. Listen in to learn what these terms mean.

One thing we learned along the way is that you can’t just learn to be trauma-sensitive.  Julie says, “It is something that you truly become.”  Julie and Ginger explain what that paradigm shift means.

ATN is currently developing a Certification Program with levels for individuals, schools, and organizations.  Stay tuned to learn more about this program and its expected release in the Spring of 2024.

Nov 28, 202336:54
Ep 61 - Gratitude, Grounding and Glimmers
Nov 14, 202335:05
Ep 60 - What Can Be Done About The School to Prison Pipeline?

Ep 60 - What Can Be Done About The School to Prison Pipeline?

Oct 31, 202341:10
Ep 59 - What is the Vagus Nerve?
Oct 17, 202343:50
Ep 58 - Inner Working Models - Where do they come from?

Ep 58 - Inner Working Models - Where do they come from?

In this episode Julie and Ginger talk about the Inner Working Model.   This is basically the blueprint for how we connect with others.  

John Bowlby says it best – “All of us, from cradle to grave, are happiest when life is organized as a series of excursions, long or short, from the secure base provided by our attachment figures.”  What is a secure base? What is the attachment cycle? Why does it matter? Listen in to learn how the answers to these questions lead to a person’s inner working model and how that affects them for the rest of their life.

Dr. Lou Cozolino says, “Brains link together. We are social creatures and our biologies are interwoven. Each brain is dependent on the scaffolding of caregivers and loved ones for survival, growth, and wellbeing. There are no single brains. Each brain adapts according to other brains they are surrounded by.” This is all based on our first relationships and the best way to therapeutically care for children is to understand our own inner working model.

Because - When we know better, we do better.

Oct 03, 202342:08
Ep 57 - Creating a Regulating Classroom Environment
Sep 19, 202334:06
Ep 56 - Getting on the Same Page: Teacher-Parent Relationships

Ep 56 - Getting on the Same Page: Teacher-Parent Relationships

In this episode, Julie and Ginger are talking about relationships between parents and teachers with their guest host, Jessica Harris.  Jessica was a teacher with 17 years of experience until she began the CLIMB program.  As an alternative to out of school suspensions, the CLIMB program provides students with intensive instruction and support while keeping them in school.  Through this program, Jess is changing the educational landscape and using teacher-parent relationships as a tool.

We know that relationships are key between the teacher and their students, but what about between teachers and the parents? How do we initiate this relationship? How can we get off on the right foot? How do we approach this from a trauma informed lens? And - Why is it so important?

Listen in to learn what needs parents have, what needs teachers have and how we can fill those needs. The relationship between the parents and teacher is the key. The biggest obstacle to forming these relationships is time. Jess shares some tips to work around this obstacle.

Jess says, “We must share every win that every child achieves.” It is critical.


Sep 05, 202339:28
Ep 55 - Let's Talk Regulation & Co-Regulation with Ginger Healy

Ep 55 - Let's Talk Regulation & Co-Regulation with Ginger Healy

In this episode, we have invited a guest host, Kimberly Smathers, into the studio. Kimberly is on the Board of Directors of the Attachment & Trauma Network, and she is a true champion of ATN’s work. Kimberly is talking with Ginger Healy about her recent book, Regulation and Co-Regulation: Accessible Neuroscience and Connection Strategies that Bring Calm into the Classroom (15-Minute Focus).

You know Ginger as the co-host of this Regulated and Relational podcast, but what you may not know is that Ginger is a clinical social worker with almost 30 years of experience. She has worked as a child abuse investigator, a hospital social worker, and a school therapist. Oh – and she is a mom to children with special needs. So, she is very well positioned to author this book!

Ginger’s book is a quick and easy read, something we all need in our busy lives. Ginger points out that we aren’t born with the ability to regulate on our own. It takes years of experiences (and millions of those experiences) of co-regulation for us to develop that skill.

Listen in to learn the difference between accountability and punishment. Why is accountability healing? Why is punishment traumatizing? How can we use this knowledge to heal our entire community?

To order Ginger’s book, go to ATN’s bookshop at https://bookshop.org/p/books/15-minute-focus-regulation-and-co-regulation-accessible-neuroscience-and-connection-strategies-that-bring-calm-into-the-classroom-brief-counseling-gin/19786117?aid=22880&ean=9781953945792&listref=resources-for-educators

You can also reach out to Ginger at ginger@attachtrauma.org. She would love to hear from you.

Aug 22, 202339:32
Ep 54 - The Importance of Belonging
Aug 08, 202329:22
Ep 53 - Unpacking Our Griefcase
Jul 25, 202341:00
Ep 52 - Ever Wonder About Curiosity?
Jul 11, 202334:50
Ep 51 - Diving into Anger

Ep 51 - Diving into Anger

In this episode, Julie and Ginger dive into anger!  Brene Brown defines anger as an emotion we feel when something gets in the way of our desired outcome, or when we believe there is a violation of the way we believe something should be. She says that anger is both active and activating.


Anger is an emotion we all experience, and it causes us to go into a fight or flight response. This means we shift to a state of survival, with our heart rate and adrenalin level increasing, and our cognitive and relational abilities decreasing.


Julie says, “We have three options on how to deal with anger: express it, suppress it, or process it.” We never age out of the emotion of anger, instead we need to learn how to navigate it. Listen in for tips on how to safely navigate the anger of yourself and the children in your care.


We want to hear from you! Please let us know what works for you when it comes to processing anger.  Share your tips!

Jun 27, 202328:52
Ep 50 - Exploring Interoception

Ep 50 - Exploring Interoception

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Connie Persike into the studio to talk about interoception, one of our hidden senses.    Interoception is the ability to process information from inside our bodies that affects our behavior, our health, and our well-being.


Connie is a highly experienced Speech Language Pathologist and educational consultant with more than 20 years’ experience in the educational setting. She is also a published writer and blogger. Connie created a process to assess student behavior which deviates from the traditional behaviorism approach.  Her approach aligns with current relational neuroscience.


What is interoception?  What does it look like? How can a teacher or caregiver help a child recognize it? Connie says, “Interoception is the foundation of self-regulation. Without it, we cannot become self-aware and attribute meaning to that”.


We need to teach children to just take a pause and notice what they are feeling and where in their bodies they are feeling it. This is something we all need!


Connie’s motto is Connection + Collaboration = Endless Possibilities. Wow!


To learn more, visit Connie’s website at https://supportablesolutions.com.

Jun 13, 202341:47
Ep 49 - Advocating for Trauma-Informed Special Education

Ep 49 - Advocating for Trauma-Informed Special Education

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite a special guest, Bill Zee, into the studio. Bill is the Chair of the Education Law Group at Appel, Yost & Zee in Lancaster PA. Bill has over 15 years of experience in school and special education law. He is both an educator by degree and an early childhood trauma survivor.  As a result, Bill is passionate about the journey of making schools trauma informed. Bill is also an ATN Board member making this one of the most diversified boards ever. 


Bill was led to the field of special education law by first becoming an educator. He says that, “Educators made such a huge difference in my life and I always wanted to make that same difference.” He then transitioned into law with the goal of focusing on school law. Pennsylvania is leading the movement to have schools become trauma-informed.  It is invaluable for educators to be knowledgeable of trauma informed language, understand that parents bring baggage, and be willing to acknowledge that parents are part of the team.


Pa is definitely one of the states we should be watching!

May 30, 202331:12
Ep 48 - The Power of the Pause

Ep 48 - The Power of the Pause

In this session, Julie and Ginger invite Dr. Jon Baylin into the studio.   Dr. Baylin received his doctorate in clinical psychology from Peabody College of Vanderbilt University in 1981 and he has been working in the mental health field for 35 years.   He has immersed himself in the study of neuroscience and in teaching mental health practitioners about the brain. Dr. Baylin delivers keynote addresses nationally and internationally. He collaborates with Dr. Daniel Hughes and their first book, Brain Based Parenting, was released in 2012. In 2016, their second book, The Neurobiology of Attachment-Focused Therapy was released.


Today, Julie, Ginger and Dr. Baylin are talking about the “Power of the Pause”.  Dr. Baylin says a child’s brain, especially one that has experience childhood trauma, is all about getting a very quick reaction to things, but sometimes that fast reaction is not the best. By teaching the children the power of the pause, we can help them gain self-control and feel empowerment.  The pause helps all of us move beyond only using our amygdala and using the higher portion of our brain.   Dr. Baylin says, “We can upshift our brains by pausing.”


Listen in to learn more about this concept and how it truly is based in relationship.


To order Dr. Baylin and Dr. Hughes’ books, visit ATN’s Bookshop at https://bookshop.org/shop/AttachmentTraumaNetwork.


May 16, 202337:34
Ep 47 - The Importance of Feeling Safe

Ep 47 - The Importance of Feeling Safe

In this episode, Julie and Ginger discuss the concept of “Felt Safety”.   You can’t trust, heal, or learn in a state of unsafety.  This isn’t only about physical safety, but this concept also includes emotional safety.   It’s all about the state of your nervous system.  Listen in to understand what happens in a child’s brain when they are unsafe, either from a perceived or actual threat.  Ginger says, “Children need help returning to the baseline of felt safety through co-regulation.” That is the adult’s responsibility.

Safety is always first, so how does the adult bring about a feeling of safety for the child.  First, believe in the child and listen to what they are experiencing.  Next, increase predictability, structure, and routine.  Also, be careful with your tone of voice. Avoid sarcasm and avoid yelling. And remember - creating an environment of felt safety is important for all children, not just those with early childhood trauma. It is for all of us!

To order ATN’s Calm Kits, visit ATN’s store at https://www.attachmenttraumanetwork.org/atn-store-educator/. Videos on how to use each calm kit item is included with the purchase.

If you choose to create your own “calm kit”, be sure to include tactile items such as fidgets, squishies, silly putty, silicone sponges, shaving cream, weighted blankets, mini tramps, crash pads, pillows and chair bands, just to name a few.

To join our upcoming book study, go to https://www.tfaforms.com/5060290. To sign up for our Movies That Matter Series, click https://www.attachmenttraumanetwork.org/movies-that-matter-series/  Hope to see you there!

 

May 03, 202349:22
Ep 46 - Our Hidden Senses
Apr 18, 202342:40
Ep 45 - Preventing Childhood Sexual Abuse

Ep 45 - Preventing Childhood Sexual Abuse

In this episode Ginger and Julie invite Tracy Leonard into the studio. Tracy is the Programming and Partnership Manager at the non-profit, Darkness to Light.  Darkness to Light empowers adults to prevent child abuse.  She is also an authorized facilitator and certified instructor at Darkness to Light. The curriculum focuses on how to recognize, react, and respond to child sexual abuse. Tracy is also vital to ATN as a board member and the leader of the development team.

April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, so this episode is very timely. The US Department of Health and Human Services recently put out their report for 2021 stating that 76% of all children experience neglect. 16% experience physical abuse and 10% experience sexual abuse…  And realize - these are the reported cases. 

Darkness to Light believes that it is an adult’s responsibility to protect children and it is a child’s responsibility to be a child. Listen in to learn more about the curriculum that Darkness to Light developed and presents.  They focus on how to minimize the opportunity for sexual abuse.  If it does happen, adults are taught how to react. Adults are also taught how to intervene if they see someone crossing the boundary by being an active bystander. Tracy says that it is amazing to see all the light bulbs go off during the training.

To learn more about the Darkness to Light program, to go https://www.d2l.org/  .

Apr 04, 202342:13
Ep 44 - Trauma in the Pews
Feb 14, 202334:46
Ep 43 - Exploring the River of Cruelty
Jan 31, 202337:35
Ep 42 - What is Blocked Care

Ep 42 - What is Blocked Care

In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the concept of “Blocked Care”. Drs. Daniel Hughes and Jonathan Baylin first coined this concept in their book, Brain Based Parenting. This book was written with foster parents in mind, but blocked care can also be experienced by teachers and other caregivers of children impacted by early childhood trauma. What exactly does blocked care mean to caregivers and how can we avoid it? What are the signs of blocked care? Julie says. “The first sign is when you are doing all the right things, but the child’s neurobiology is reacting negatively. Your brain begins to react because you aren’t getting a reciprocal relationship. You are going through the motions but begin to expect no connections. Basically, your heart suddenly isn’t in it anymore.” If this sounds like you, we want to assure you that you’re not alone. This happens almost instinctively as a way of protecting yourself, but Julie and Ginger discuss some ways to help you through it. Recognize that this is not unusual and there is no shame in feeling this way. This is how we are wired. Reach out to ATN! This is why we are here. We can help you find resources. To order a copy of the book, Brain Based Parenting, go to ATN’s bookstore at https://bookshop.org/shop/AttachmentTraumaNetwork.

Jan 17, 202343:36
Ep 41 - Trauma-Informed Teaching and IEPs
Jan 03, 202339:50
Ep 40 - What Makes Mr. Chazz Tick?
Dec 20, 202238:06
Ep 39 - The Regulated Classroom
Dec 06, 202231:32
Ep 38 - Brain-Body Parenting
Nov 22, 202235:52
Ep 37 - Serve and Return

Ep 37 - Serve and Return

In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the concept of Serve and Return. This notion was introduced through the Center on the Developing Child at Harvard University. Harvard defines serve and return as “responsive interactions between children and the people who care for them and how those interactions help the children grow and reach their full potential.” So, what does that actually look like? Ginger outlines the five steps of serve and return and explains how we can implement them into our daily lives. Listen in to learn how to recognize what our children are serving to us and how we can return to them. At its core, it is all about attachment. Every child needs someone who is crazy about them, so go and be crazy about your kid!!!

Check out the website for the Center on the Developing Child for more incredible resources. https://developingchild.harvard.edu/

Nov 08, 202240:10
Ep 36 - Therapeutic Parenting 102

Ep 36 - Therapeutic Parenting 102

In this episode, Julie and Ginger continue their discussion of therapeutic parenting. If you are caring for a child with a trauma history, you know that therapeutic parenting is needed for the long haul, and we must make these strategies work. Co-regulation is vital, but how can we achieve it with our children? Ginger says, “We need to understand what a child can do and what they can’t do.” When they are in a position of fight, flight, or freeze, they can’t do what we are asking of them. Co-regulation is the answer to helping them get out of those states. Julie and Ginger also discuss the concept of do-overs and we all need do-overs in our lives!

Please reach out to us with your therapeutic parenting questions. We would love to help you. The Attachment & Trauma Network has a great many resources at our fingertips. Send an email to heart@attachtrauma.org. That’s what we are here for!

Oct 25, 202232:29
Ep 35 - Therapeutic Parenting 101
Oct 11, 202249:50
Ep 34 - Helping Teen Brains with Improv
Sep 27, 202250:40
Ep 33 - A New School Year: Hopes and Challenges

Ep 33 - A New School Year: Hopes and Challenges

Julie and Ginger invite Sandra Lake and James Moffett into the studio. They are both awesome trauma informed educators, and in this episode, they are discussing what it is like in schools this year versus last year. They both agree that safety and security are paramount, but how can that be accomplished in a non-traumatizing way? – Relationships. Its all about relationships. Sandra says, “Whatever amount of time you spend building relationships with your kids, double it. Double that time because the payout is huge.” James says that his school is making a move from focusing on “every” student to focusing on “each” student.

Listen in to find out what is a walk and talk, what is a tap in tap out, what is a hang out, what is a flip flop. These are the techniques they are using in their schools to help regulate not only the students, but also the staff.

What incredible words of wisdom they share!

Sep 13, 202234:08
Ep 32 - Secondary Traumatic Stress
Aug 30, 202247:37
Ep 31 - School Resource Officer & Trauma-Informed School Safety, talking with Becky Haas
Aug 16, 202240:19
Ep 30: Advocating against Restraint & Seclusion - a conversation with Guy Stephens
Aug 02, 202257:34
Ep. 29: Boundaries
Jul 19, 202219:04
Ep 28: The Challenges of Using Praise
Jul 05, 202239:40
Ep 27: Disappointment and Expectations
Jun 21, 202221:12
Ep 26: The Special Attachment Window of Young Adulthood: An Interview with Jack Hinman, Psy.D.
Jun 07, 202246:23
Ep 25: The Dangers of Social Media for our Teens- A Conversation with Jethro Jones
May 24, 202248:08
Ep 24: Using Stories to Heal: A Conversation with Jane Samuel

Ep 24: Using Stories to Heal: A Conversation with Jane Samuel

In this episode, Julie and Ginger have long-time ATN friend, Jane Samuel in the studio.  Jane is a marriage and family associate whose practice focuses on children and families with an attachment-focused lens. Many of her clients are foster and adoptive families.  In this episode, she talks about the value of narratives and storytelling. What exactly is a narrative?  How can this be used in healing? Storytelling is useful in all settings – by parents, by teachers, and by clinicians. Jane also suggests that caregivers use books to open up discussions of hard topics.  Jane has compiled a list of books that she recommends, organized by topics and feelings.  For a list of books that Jane recommends, go here: https://www.attachmenttraumanetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/Janes-book-list.pdf.

According to Dr. Curt Thompson, “We are the only mammals that narrate our lives.” What a gift we have!

May 10, 202247:53
Ep 23 Restorative (and Trauma-Informed) Practices in Schools: An Interview with Joe Brummer

Ep 23 Restorative (and Trauma-Informed) Practices in Schools: An Interview with Joe Brummer

In this episode, Ginger and Julie dive into Restorative Practices with Joe Brummer in the studio.  Joe is an expert in developing trauma-informed and restorative approaches in schools and organizations.  He is a consultant and author of the book, Building a Trauma-Informed Restorative School. This book can be ordered from ATN’s bookstore at Building a Trauma Informed Restorative School.  Joe is also a member of ATN’s PD Collaborative, a group of trauma-informed educational experts available to provide PD training, consultation and support to school districts and organizations embarking on becoming trauma-informed.

Joe explains what Restorative Practices are and how these practices are implemented in schools. How do these practices differ from punitive practices and why do they work? Joe says, “The paradigm shift is the knowledge that the wrong-doing caused a break in relationships, not a break in rules.”

To get more information, or reach out to Joe, go to JoeBrummer.com.

For more information about ATN’s PD Collaborative, go here: https://www.attachmenttraumanetwork.org/atn-announces-new-pd-collaborative/.

Apr 26, 202244:11
Ep 22 - The Balance of Structure and Nurture
Apr 12, 202248:54
Ep 21: Building Resilience during Covid...A Reflection on What We've Learned
Feb 15, 202238:18
Ep 20: Reframing the Narrative with Jessica Sinarski, LPCMH
Feb 01, 202233:29
Ep 19: The Re-Set Process: An Interview with Dyane Carrere
Jan 18, 202254:09
Ep 18: Pushing Past Your Own Perspectives - Interview with Emily Meeks and Taneesha Thomas
Jan 04, 202231:32